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I think atheists are tolerant of the religious. Why aren't the religious tolerant of atheists?

mbergwell 4 Dec 27
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The purpose of organized religion is to make money. Just like a corporation. If you are not a customer who is buying their product, you are not making organized religion money, and you are therefore a problem.

Nailed it!

I am in total agreement. Religion is a government endorsed business that benefits the government, and big business by supplying cheap labor and keeping the lower income worker from protesting. It is a very corrupt trifecta.

Don't you also think that it is societal control though, too? And, more so even? I think that establishing religiously driven laws or establishing 'taboo' behaviors not becoming of the 'religious' right is a greater threat to the society in general than a need for money. The Emperor Constantine established the ONE 'true' bible at the council of Nicaea in around 400 CE and threw out lots of doctrines and philosophic writings and beliefs of multiple faiths (including reincarnation), as it did not fit into his world domination 'agenda'. I think for some big time TV preachers it is all about the money. Even the notion of Hell was added around that time as well, possibly as a means to control the populace out of fear. There were also many money making schemes of the Catholic Church still in effect today, to atone for sins of the dead (priests had the power to forgive sins in the case of purgatory probation), where they have had their hands out for many hundreds of years.

Also a control cult. Can't control freethinking people as 1984 has taught us.

@Issa

Money, power, and control all feed greed with abuse being rampant. This allowed for atrocities to be inflicted on the free thinkers.

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People fear what they don't understand.

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I think a lot of it has to do with them not understanding what an atheist really is.

How many religious people would give the wrong definition when asked, I think the majority would call us devil worshipers.

Hahaha, I know, anyone who is not religious must be a 'devil' worshiper. Good grief! The devil would imply another religion is involved, not a lack of religion(s). Sorry to hear that.

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Seems to me outgroup tolerance is about equal on both sides.

skado Level 9 Dec 27, 2017
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They are indoctrinated not to listen to others belief systems.

I truly believe this. If people are conditioned not to respect the beliefs of others, nor be interested in them at all, shows ignorance and low tolerance. It is called "spiritual pornography". I have spoken to so many people who have been 'trained' that they can only read the bible, and they cannot study other scriptures or ideals that differ from the doctrine in which they are trained in. It is really heartbreaking to watch, they have become cultish in their views, even if their beliefs are considered 'mainstream'.

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probably because part of their doctrine implies superiority or demands conversion. Why is a hard question to answer

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One of the basic tenets of most religions is that it is the only allowable belief, it is right and everything else is wrong, usually evil and must be eradicated.

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Militant followers are in both. We need to consider the other person as fellow human despite his/her/other inconsistencies and beliefs. Just like what @AccursedHalo said, there is a threshold for every person beyond that the person may become intolerant of others view. That threshold is person specific. In some cases, the mob behaviour also take precedence over our personal feelings. That's what I feel.

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I think every one is tolerant to a certain point. What that point is? Depends on the person. Some days I just CAN NOT deal with religious people and I hope they all die. My ex-friend Erica was tolerant of me and my against religion memes. But one day she finally snapped because a meme or something I shared involved Catholics. She was not happy and she unfriended me. :/

Catholics can be a particularly sensitive bunch, and especially the more strict they are about it.

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Believers do not think atheists are tolerant of them. They have convinced themselves that we are "at war with Christianity", assaulting Christmas, etc. They see us as the aggressors when we do not want such things as "...under God..." in the pledge and prayer in school.

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Because their interpretation of their Holy Book states they have to save us from Hell. They feel they have failed if they don't.

That is a good point. I used to be into Church and religion and they really tried to guilt people into proselytizing strangers as a way to become superior spiritually and 'do their parts' for the world at large. It was very invasive and one of the reasons that I got out.

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Probably because they are the majority. Power corrupts.

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Because their religious beliefs form the core of how they define themselves. Without that, they are lost and that thought threatens them hugely.

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I know tolerant Christians.

I am married to one.

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Simple. All Abrahamic religions require their believers to proselytise.

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Because they need to save everyone from eternal hellfire, or else. It's literally encoded into some religions. Also, why are we pretending here? lol

Cwen Level 4 Dec 27, 2017
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Cognitive dissonance

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We know and are willing to accept our fate. They do not know (despite their assurances to the contrary) and they do not want to have anyone be the cause them questioning their own. cognitive dissonance is a powerful force for everyone (question a liberal about some things they take seriously - like immigration, charity or giving food).

When my partner was dying I personally experienced the anxiety of death. Even though I would have been more than willing to trade places it was still unnerving.
@VictoriaNotes

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Also, they don't like to have logic interjected into their dogma. It undermines all of their fantasies.

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Tolerance is not in the characteristics of religion.

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Because there is a fundamental difference.

An atheist sees a theist as someone who is deluded, but as long as they are not actually acting like a bastard they do no harm. Basically a theist isn't a threat to an atheist.

A theist sees an atheist as someone seeking to 'destroy faith' - an enemy of everything they have based their life upon. An atheist IS a threat to a theist.

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First, what does an atheist represent to the believer? If we appear to be happy, well adjusted, moderately successful, well educated, and doing good in our community we stand as a glaring contradiction to everything they've been told about us. That's just for starters. We also are a reminder of their insecurities. These folks have to keep reminding themselves of what they believe and make sure it's all held firmly in place, then along comes someone who seems to be secure and content without all those things they're supposed to remember. Then there's the ultimate worry. They can't face the idea of it all coming to an end. Surely there must be something better on the ... other side, right? Standing there as if nothing at all is wrong is someone who doesn't have all that worry.

It is just a matter of time, usually not much time, before they are moved to explain to that person that they need to be saved. That they need to be worried about heaven and hell and the eternity they will face in the Lake of Fire if they don't repent from their ... uh ... from their what? ... wicked ways? Damn, the only thing that atheist is doing wicked is ... is ... not believing. How can anyone not believe? This is not possible. Everybody believes in something, right? That's what they're doing that's wicked. They're believing in something wicked. Like what? Melt down will surely follow if something is not done.

They can't tolerate us. Not only because of what I've said here, but because their deity, the one they believe in has said that we are not to be allowed to live. That we are worthy of being drowned in a great flood or stoned at the city gate. Fortunately, there are some who do not buy into all that crap and have figured out a way to tolerate us and the LGBT community -- at least on the surface. I suspect that down deep in the mental cellar they are quietly stoning us too.

Do not expect genuine tolerance or understanding because it cannot be given. We can and should give it to them, but they can't reciprocate 100%.

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Same reason alcoholics prefer to be around drinkers?
I'm tolerant of religion until it butts into my bank account, my kid's education, my right to share this planet without fear, my home and my space to think freely without being told my feelings/beliefs are wrong. Unfortunately, religion has in some ways, done all of that. So I'm kinda pissed and kinda thinking appeasement may not be the way to go with this.

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