Let's just have everyone close the whole thing up by lowering the seat and the lid. Case closed

I always lift the the seat, then when I'm done I put the seat back down, it's common courtesy.

Try leaving the seat down and pissing all over it and see what happens. Men do not have complete control of how their aim will be in that situation.

This is an easy one. Separate bathrooms (or homes) !

This is so incredibly easy to settle.

Most toilet seats have LIDS. The biggest reason to put the lid down, BEFORE
flushing, is because millions of microscopic water droplets are sprayed into the air every single time the toilet is flushed. Each droplet contains bacteria.
That bacteria lands everywhere in the bathroom, including on your toothbrush.
If you don't have a problem brushing YOUR teeth with used toilet bowl water, that's fine, but everyone else who keeps a toothbrush in that bathroom just might.

Another reason to put the lid down, is because unless you keep your toilet clean (as in ALL the time), any errant stain or 'miss' is going to be visible.

If you need even more proof, Mike Rowe (the "Dirty Jobs" guy) is in the attached
demonstration (the link is safe) :

Btw, I live alone and still put the whole apparatus down, every single time. I also do it when I'm in other people's
homes.

at my house the lid is closed by ladies and the seat and lid are closed by men... If you want the dogs drinking out of the toilet, then I will bring them to kiss you after you leave it up

that's how it goes at my place but to each their own

Nature and cultural norms mean that men have a much easier time of peeing to start with, unzip it and point it in the right direction. Women on the other hand have to peel their way through however many layers of garments then assume a seated position before the performance can begin. Now this may seem a minor inconvenience until you are in a hurry, then it all takes time and if you've ever had cystitis you know this can be a problem, but the odds are you haven't yet more than half of all women have and a third have the recurrent version. Now 60% of the recurrent version is precipitated by having sex, so some of us could avoid the problem by simply keeping our legs crossed but I reckon things will be happier all round if you just put down the seat.

I think that there is mostly no consequence for a man who stands and unzips to accommodate the urge for number 1 with the seat up or down and without usually risking the unpleasant experience of a nasty cold toilet-bowl water wetness on one's bum. Whereas women must always sit, and because we must always sit, we must always have the seat down no matter the number. If men must also always sit, there would be no problem. Men would insure the seat down at all times. We would all be happy. But the thing is that before the sitting, women must perform more "preparation" exercises than men, who again mostly only stand, the deed done in seconds. Sometimes seconds are all we women have before disaster. So we must unzip, unclasp, AND unbutton our slacks. Most ladies slacks have all three less our privates be vulnerable.
Then we push down or raise up our clothing depending on what we're wearing. Then we unlatch our body suit crotch clasp, and ultimately push down our underwear and hurriedly sit: into nasty cold wet toilet-bowl water because we were focused on sitting before a disaster occurred and didn't have time to notice the seat up or down.

Ok men, here are your choices:
Put the SEAT down always (or suffer the wrath of a woman who fell in) Put the LID down always (prevents microscopic ( at the least) urine water spray all over the counter ... including your toothbrush) Close the SEAT and LID always (peace on earth ) Why do you resist ?

Because no matter how straight you think you can urinate standing up, it's still hitting the walls. Hygiene! No one should have to wipe up after you.

Women have gravity on their side when lowering the seat. Men have to fight gravity to raise the seat. ☺

I have a one motion each rule in my house....males must lift the seat to go; females must lower the seat to go. One motion each. Seems fair.

OK, here's my take: Both genders should make the effort to put down whichever part of the toilet is up when they are finished: either close the outer/top lid, or close both the outer lid + inner ring. This equals the burden for all who use the toilet. Plus, when flushing and the solid lid is closed down, this prevents the microscopic mist from emitting out of the toilet. Both genders also get in the habit of lifting whatever part of the toilet they want upon starting - lid, or lid + ring. Finally, the whole room looks tidier and neater when the toilet's all closed up!

What is the big deal about not wanting to put it down? Is this some assertion of manliness? I live by myself. I leave the damn lid down. The muscle power involved in lifting the lid is MINIMAL. Gravity puts it down for me again.

Really. What's the big deal? Men?

I was taught it was the gentlemanly thing to do. It's pretty much a non thought I've been doing it so long. Like nature. Do you leave your fly open also?

Put the seat down if you'd care to reduce the of the women in your lives injuring themselves by falling in to the bowl.
Put the LID down before you flush to keep from getting a blast of fecal particulates all over ya self.

Actually it's a very symmetrical argument. In the eyes of the woman, why can't we put it down?... From the guys perspective, why can they leave it up when done? Funny story though... My wife would always choose the opposite to every thing but the toilet lid. On that one, she was always very consisten, keep it closed at all times or I would not hear the end of it for days ?????

I wish these women would stop moaning.

How difficult is it to put a toilet seat down?

Really.. It takes a tenth of a second. It's nothing.

The objection I’ve heard from women is that we men tend to splatter all over and create a mess. I get around that problem by using a jar.

It was quite a chore to find one large enough to accommodate my member.

I've always said it takes the same amount of effort for both . Also someone has solved the problem tehy just need to start fitting them everywhere

I prefer to put both the seat and lid down. I do this because toilets when flushed will create a "toilet flume" which is a fine mist made of waste material / water that gets all over everything including you.

It's just a meme that people pass on. There is no actual reason for it except to accommodate rare scenarios. Most people already know how to use a toilet, there should be no issues with the positioning of the seat, and no, ignoring toilet seat ettiquette is NOT a personal attack. I know people may find it offensive when the toilet seat is not in a certain position, but those people seriously think that other people don't have lives and universes of their own to attend to. Common sense provides that this is a minor thing and that it is again, not a personal attack to leave the toilet seat up.

Hank Hill was a squatter... according to Dale?

Probably because we expect a gentleman to do it, just because... but I totally get your point.

I've thought about this as well, and the potential double standard.
First, to clarify, we're talking "seat" not "lid".

Woman need the seat down for 100% of the standard bathroom activities.
Men need the seat down for 50% of the potential activities, although, I imagine that it's more like maybe 20% of the actual usage for guys.
Even if we use the lower numbers, it still works out to 60% of the (normal) activities require the toilet seat to be in the down position.
(If we include praying to the porcelain god, that percent will change.)

The other factor to consider would be how many of each sex are using the toilet in question.
If it's a household with mostly women - sorry guys, lower the seat - not worth the fight(s).
BUT it it's a male dominated area, like my work, (yes, we have only one shared restroom) then I have to put up with the seat being up (and a lot of gross stuff).
I look at it this way; I would prefer to put the seat down, than to have to wipe of the seat, if you catch my drift.

That's my take on it - for what it's worth.