Oh really?

Redlegdex don't get offended. You yourself said you arent the normal trump supporter.

@SunnySmiles -- I suggest that very few Trump supporters can be considered normal.

#MAGA

"Shrug shoulders and sigh" I have no defence, guilty and ashamed to be an American under his leadership. I still love my country, and I'm proud of the many good things this country has done but electing Mr Trump isn't one of those things.

Jodyfine I concur! Obama will always be my atf President until Michelle becomes POTUS

White male revenge for black Obama, rednecks in Texas who never voted before lined up for him. Black males stayed home. Go to a Flea Market, fat old men and women wearing Trump t-shirts getting out of pick up trucks ready to tell off everyone with a grand daughter wearing a fairy costume.

@paul1967 There is no shame in coming from any nation. You are not your country or its political system. It is the notion that we are inextricably tied to our nation which I believe leads to nationalism (a phenomenon across the political spectrum, not just right-wing nationalism), and which I believe leads to a divided world.

In Australia we have plenty of history and present action about which we should be rightly concerned. However, that does not make me ashamed to be resident on this particular piece of geography.

@SunnySmiles I can understand that sentiment. May I suggest a bit more anarchic thinking? Consider no person to be your president. You have the wit and wisdom to lead yourself.

@etruji29 I wonder what will happen in the mid-terms this year. I get the feeling that the tide is turning against Republicans, particularly where they have awarded unabashed support for Trump.

@Waco2017 I'm sorry to hear that. Whilst I believe the Obama administration had issues, the fact he was not "white" should facotor into no one's assessment.

Agreed, Trump and his people are spinning everything to the point that people will happily vote against their own best interests

I really hope they fix this system because replying to you won't notify you of this reply. I can't speak to your diesel concerns until I investigate them but I can say Trump is working on dismantling the EPA ( Environmental Protection Agency) Trump has already imposed new restrictions on public communication by EPA Staff and in April ordered the Agency to take down it's climate science webpage. Trump has already rolled back key environmental standards. Over the past few months Trump has:

1. Resumed sales of coal on federal land.
2. Reversed restrictions against dumping mining waste into waterways
3. killed a mandate that federal agencies must consider climate change when making decisions.
4. Revoked the EPAs Clean power plan
5. Asked the courts to delay a hearing about limits on mercury and other toxic pollutants from power plants with plans to weaken these rules.
6. Is working on overturning rules that limit methane gas pollution from oil and gas production.
   7 Allowed the use of the pesticide chlorpyrifos even after the EPA Scientist showed a causal link between it's use and breast cancer and birth defects. This is a short list and all within less than a year. You claim he's saving the IS billions and I'm 100% sure you're right. Today billions of dollars are being saved In 8 years from now after he's gone and major portions of our environment will be destroyed, people will, not could but will die and even more will made I'll and deformed from birth defects. This is the consensus of our best scientific minds. A concerted effort is being waged to discredit these scientist saying they're just saying it to get grant money and it's all lies. All I can say to that is GIVE ME A FREAKEN BREAK YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. The cost to fix this is unmanageable and in many cases impossible. Stop thinking for just a minute about saving a dollar today and start researching the impact to the future of this country. Don't believe me don't take a word I've said for granted. Look for yourself and then get on board and help stop this.

I am one of those that see things black and white. I think most of us are that way. I think the difference is that some of us have upbringings where we were taught to consider the less extreme position. I know my opinion is often not the only opinion, and I know that solutions that solve problems are almost never black or white, but my brain thinks in those terms all the time. I have to fight like hell to remind myself that truth lands in the grey far more often than on the extreme edge of things.

It does seem that racism is their driving point. The Obama elections is when I decided to change political parties bc their obvious hatred for a black man. Although the thought of an intelligent woman scares them more. I cannot wait for an intelligent black woman to knock their socks off. Michelle Obama for POTUS!

Quick note about me- I originally voted for Bernie in the primaries but voted for Hillary in the election. I knew trump was gonna wij bc we are over ran w racists. He is their god and savior

It seems to me that conservatives back in the Regan days were just right of the center and today's conservatives are so far right that the center is out of sight.

To recognize it is healthy and a step forward in recognizing all of the gray areas of life.

I have a lot of military friends who feel bc trump is their boss they cannot publicly disrespect him but I recall their public disrespect for Obama so this confuses me. I cannot imagine how difficult it is for you and know you are the minority who think that way. I thank you for your service, sir

Which you failed to do...sanctimonious is not a word I would have ever felt I needed to use in this group.

Thank ya Miss Judyfine!

The photo of Don Jr. with the dead tiger just keeps coming into my mind........haven't seen Chelsey Clinton do that. Hilary lost, forget her already. LOOK AT WHAT THE HELL WE HAVE here.

It can be pretty obvious to some of us I think lol

Did you believe Trump would make a better President than the other 16 Republican candidates?

Probably not. I would have liked Bernie

I guess why I'm so surprised by someone being a trump supporter in this group is they use the bible and god as their excuse to be terrible human beings. I am not saying you are a terrible person nor a racist bc I havent read any of your posts. But if if its not too rude to straight up ask- do you consider yourself a racist. What makes you different than the christian conservative (this is the trump supporter I abhor) I woukd like to not lump his supporters into ine category. Also can you tell me some redeeming qualities of trump not only as president but as a human being.

Well, can't really say that I am racist, though I've experienced racism while growing up in NYC, since I am Mexican born. I'm also a naturalized citizen, and son of immigrants. I don't have issue with the gay community, as my older cousin who was like a brother to me, was gay and died of aids, that was pretty painful to see since my family is super catholic and he had to keep that a secret until he knew he was dying. As far a Trump being a good human being, well through my former job I was around a lot of high ranking military and political people and got to seem them when no cameras and no press was around. He was always cordial and mindful of the people who worked for him, always said please and thank you. now I won't say that he is a saint, yes he is an asshole sometimes, and doesn't hold back when defending himself and the people he values, but I think that's redeeming, because as we saw in this last election, people are tired of two face politicians. And Trump, is not a politician. So he doesn't care to pretend to be this ideal world leader with doves and roses.
And as it looks, the left (which I once considered myself part of) is doubling down on their ultra orthodox sociL justice, and it's only driving the rest of the country towards the right and center. Don't get me wrong, I hang more in conservative circles now and when they say stupid shit i call them out on it, but they don't block me, or unfriend me or call me names or brand me "misguided and racist." Nope.... liberals and left leaning individuals do that. Are there d-bags on the right? Yes of course! But those are the older dying out breeds. The d-bags and intolerant on the left are the youthful (antifa and blm and the like).

So yeah, I'm not what you probably think Trump supporters are. An old white single Christian male.
I am: Mexican born, immigrant who supports gay marriage, is pro choice, anti-feminist, tax the rich, make work mandatory for welfare, legalize marijuana, ???? pro gun, full blown atheist anti-religion (specifically Islam) and loves dogs, and eats meat and hate country music.

@Redlegdex First off, let me say that I think it is rather courageous of you to open up about your political leanings and keep your cool about it in this very anti-trump environment. You seem to be a reasonable person so I would like to take this opportunity to ascertain your thinking here because for me personally, I can not conceive of supporting that braggart of a president we have.

So here are my questions for you-

1. Has your support for him waned in the time that's passed between the election and now?
2. Are you in support of the tax cuts for the wealthy that will add tremendous amounts of money to the deficit? If so why?
3. You support legal cannabis so you must be pissed about Trump's attorney general Sessions who just reversed federal protections for states that have legalized pot right?
4. As a Mexican, what are your thoughts on the wall?
5. So you must realize that Sanders is on the opposite end of the political spectrum compared to Trump so how does one go from supporting a socialist to supporting a nationalist/capitalist?
6. Was it the e-mails that made you not want to vote for Hilary?
7. How do you feel about the Mueller investigation?

I think that's enough for now. I look forward to your responses because I really am curious about this stuff.

I can't even finish watching it. I look at those that support Trump, and this guy is a prime example, and it scares me that there are enough of these people out there to elect a President.

I have a European state of mind. I cannot wait to pack up and leave Indiana

I feel I have spent a lot of time contemplating. I think taking away environmental protections that protect us from companies polluting our groundwater just to make the economy stronger is a rational concern. I think attempting to defund planned parenthood is a real concern. I think building a wall on our border with Mexico will do nothing to slow the progress of illegal aliens from entering our country and is an ugly waste of government spending. I think name-calling and tweeting wars is not something a president should be doing. My most significant concern is that I could keep on typing about all these terrible things he's doing but the supporter of Trump, don't seem to care. And it's not like they don't know about these awful things they just don't seem to care. That's not good. Where did our humanity go?

I did do that it was a glitch.

Although my father was an atheist he was republican all the way and hated Obama. My sister is Pagan and extremely racist so my thinking does not echo my families. My sons dad is conservative to the extreme an they do not mesh well on anything. I raised my son to do his own research and to think for himself where as my ex tells our son to just do what I say bc I'm the parent.
I do not influence my son in hating trump. He has access to the news and media just as I do and has formed his own opinions of him and his supporters based on things he has seen and heard from trumps own mouth.

My son who is tall, pale with dark curly hair and red lips and a larger nose (very handsome tho) has been singled out by the redneck racists who now calll him Jewish Josh. Please don't imply I influence my child to be prejudiced against trump and his supporters. They did a pretty good job of doing that on their own

They won this round but we are containing the damage and already hitting back. The victory we had in Alabama makes me very hopeful for the mid-terms. We must always remind ourselves that progress has it's ups and downs but it moves inexorably forward.