What number of people do you think the planet could sustain? 100 billion? 50 billion? Is there an upper limit? It's simply a numbers game. The basic question I ask is: why?

The evidence is out there, all one has to do is look.

@JackPedigo the food is already out there too, all you have to do is give. How much land is available for crops used instead on golf courses and baseball fields? I reckon you also hunt too. You must be feeling crowded here?

@GipsyOfNewSpain I am a vegetarian and do not hunt or fish! I hear the food thing over and over and it is just plain wrong on many counts. I once got into a debate on giving food, which I said I would not do. Someone on this site agreed with me and said that food without family planning was just plain immoral (it is). I was called names and asked questions (mostly stupid) but after explaining my side with evidence more and more came to understand the simple point it is very complicated and there are many externalities most ignore.

@JackPedigo I don't hunt, I don't fish... But I eat meat, what gives you the right to decide who should procreate? Is that your religion? I won't call you names but you can't come up with numbers sustainable versus not sustainable with all land and all food available on earth plus all the technology available to produce more food as needed. Your sounding of morality based on elitism is well... ridiculously elitist but hey, I am not trying to convert you or invite you to a steak. All I am saying is you have no right to control "population" on earth.

@GipsyOfNewSpain I have heard the term elitist before. A professor at UC Davis said people who were vegetarian were elitist because not everyone could afford that lifestyle! The fact is that to provide food needed to feed 7+ Billion and counting people today requires GMO's, lots of chemicals (which results in massive environmental destruction) and lots of land (sprawl and is one of the leading causes of habitat loss for non-humans). When I was on the board of ZPG we did lots of workshops and activities with all ages (K-college). These workshops addressed everything you said but in a manner most all could understand. The earth is not made of rubber, it has limited resources and will not expand to meet OUR needs. In the end morality is about preserving all life, human and non-human. Explain how it is moral to allow our numbers and excesses to cause the sixth great extinction (which is happening right now) which may include our own. My late partner had a question for her 2nd. graders: "What is more important people or dirt". It seems many adults also have a problem with this simple idea.

You never did answer my first question about putting a number of humans the planet can accommodate. When names and accusations are used one needs to have some evidence and reason based proof otherwise it is using the same emotion based ideals the religionists use. Debate is about facts not hyperbole.

@JackPedigo is not your eating habits what makes you elitist, don't glorify yourself like that.

@GipsyOfNewSpain Still, you didn't answer my first question. No one has so far.
I am posting a question that deals with this issue.

@JackPedigo I want to live My life. If Shorter been Full of Adventure to fill and trump a healthier longer life. Is not the quantity of years... Is the Quality, is what you do with your health. You go on and Veg yourself. I won't stop you.

I remember Lake Waco. I got a terrible burn there.
Thank you for recognizing the problem of overpopulation and especially coupling food aid programs with family planning. It seems I am beating my head against a wall trying to convince people of this link. You are the FIRST person to make it and be open about, wow.
However, I am submitting a question today which disputes the religious connection. I truly believe it goes beyond religion.