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Patriotism and religion have many similarities in the way they are practiced. The fundamentalist approach, America; love it or leave it, and the devout approach, we should be the hope of the world, an example of pure freedom.

Benmonk 6 Jan 8
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And lately, we have to add to the mix, "tribalism". A separate identity of various factions, then it becomes " us against them ".

As if we need more reasons to divide !

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What you describe is blind, irrational patriotism -- an extreme position which is harmful to both people and to the nation and what it stands for.

I consider myself patriotic: I served in the military. I value most of the principles on which this nation was founded. I vote and pay my fair share of taxes to support needed governmental services. I believe in democracy. I am offended by your putting my patriotism in the same categorty as that you describe.

I described two types, to both extremes. Which was it that described your patriotism?

@Benmonk Your statement did not say that it was describing dysfunctional extreme patriotism, but to paint all patriotism with the same brush.

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I think we all ‘get patriotism.’ In grade school I was called ‘Captain America,’ because of my base pride in our nation. At home, I was the 1 of 4 who put out our flag (read the rules), then took it in at the appropriate time.. A tad older, and I’d have fought in Vietnam…

Patriotism is not wrapping oneself in a flag, attending some church or subordinating yourself to an authority figure - it consists of fighting against injustice in order to make yours a more ‘perfect union.’ Perhaps a seemingly futile task ... but if you’ve intelligence enough to recognize 2 steps forward and 1 step back as progress, you’ve got the right stuff ~

Varn Level 8 Jan 8, 2018
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Patriotism might not be as bad, but I think Nationalism breeds segregation and hate for the most part. It's a loaded topic though including government propaganda, marketing, etc etc.

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There is no doubt that the promoters of patriotism borrowed and inserted religion into their practises, adopting such phrases as “in god we trust” , “under god”. stamp bible references onto sniper scopes, etc.

mzee Level 7 Jan 8, 2018
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We should have informed freedom.
I don't think pure freedom would help as much.

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I agree.

gearl Level 8 Jan 8, 2018
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