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How do you define Happiness?

My daughter suffers from anxiety and depression, a condition I am just learning about.

She recently made the statement that she just wanted to "be happy".

That struck me as odd since I've never thought about "being happy". It just seemed like my default position.

I'm rarely "unhappy" but am I really ever happy. What is happiness? Is it really a tangible thing or is it a chemical default position you either have or don't have?

I'm still struggling with this one in relation to her.
I don't know how to tell someone about happiness when I just am.

Crimson67 8 Jan 13
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Being bi-polar and extra depressive on top, for me, it isn't so much being happy as it is not being anxious and depressed. My meds help tremendously keeping me leveled. But sometimes I get down and can't even seem to get out of bed. A few nights back, I was just watching TV, can't remember what, nothing emotional though, and suddenly I was having wracking sobbing out of nowhere. Thankfully it didn't last long. But I have no idea at all what triggered that.

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For me it's being content. I highly recommend the documentary "Happy" if you've never seen it. It looks at people from all walks of life and what makes them happy. The guy on Wall Street chasing his next million that lives in a mansion may not be quite as happy as a poor man living on the bayou in Louisiana that has pretty much everything that he needs in life. So what do I really want? I'd be happy with one of those cob homes, a loving wife, a couple kids that adore me and a job that I enjoy doing.

Sethy Level 4 Jan 17, 2018
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As someone who has had bouts of depression my entire life I know happiness as something to be attained, not something that is. I know most people don't look at it that way. I can't, define it but I know it when I see it. Which how a politition once defined porn. So happiness must be porn. ????

US Sup Ct Justice Black I recall said the porn quote. ....lifetime appointment to federal courts are not really elected politicians. ...perhaps porn watching is research for what to try next with a partner. ???? To make each other happy satisfied or curiosity entertained. ?

Your are correct. It was justice Black.

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That was deep. My younger brother suffered from anxiety and depression, when he was in his late teens. It got much worst and my parents didn't know what to do about it. As a parent all we want is for our children to be happy so when they are not happy, we struggle. Now when I look back at what my parents had to deal with I can't image the pain they must have felt. One suggestion might be to seek professional help sooner than later. Keeping in mind this doesn't necessarily mean there is a serious problem. It may just be a stage that some kids go through.

For me happiness is relative. What brings one man joy man bring sorrow to another. How can we truly define happiness?

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Knowing that people truly care about you and your wellbeing is one way to be happy.

Another is doing what you enjoy.

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Happiness to me is dealing with people all day, coming home from work, being by myself and shutting off the world. But that’s just me..

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My struggle with trying to be happy has caused me a lot of things. I hope a therapist can help her.

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For quite a number of years now I have not wished people "happiness" or "be happy" but "fulfilment" or "be fulfilled".

To date I have not found anyone who can argue against it as a prime directive for all life. Perhaps you will?

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Being Here right Now is happiness to me, low expectations (for some people) I meant to say. I learned to be happy, I taught myself how to be happy and appreciated for being here. When I had a car accident in Germany. Right before a back pay owed to me by the military was just given to me. Yet there were reasons me for not being happy. My marriage has ended and we were on a legal separation. My german girlfriend was just diagnosed with cancer and I was missing my kids and knowing we will never be a family again. I was drunk that night and I collided head on with a tanker full of gas. My boss asked me what happened? I just told him I just wanted to be happy and this is the result, it is all my fault. I know that to be happy you had to be taken apart and put back together. Your daughter need to learn again what was joy to her as a child and that is not just about material things, she need to love herself selfishly if she had to and find peace around her. Her life is just starting, everything is in front of her without a script written... make her do the script she will like to follow, what would make her happy. I heard many mothers considering their daughters their best friends. Get close to her as you can, she need to learn that you are more than just mother also best friend and that you will always be there for her. I got a daughter that is bisexual and we are best friends and former roommates I just want her to be happy too even if she choose an path in life that will make it difficult she always going to be my daugther, no less than my other children. I am always gonna be there for her. Be there for your daughter and find your happiness too, if she can see you happy, that may make her happy too. Maybe that is what she is feeling that mother is such a good person and she is not happy, how can I ever be happy? Remember children are always watching what is going on in your life. Maybe you both can find happiness together. Wouldn't that be something? Could happen.

@witchymom That is so true but be her friend, her confidant. Let her know that she can make her own happiness happen. Every person is different, my daughter that is bi was/is bipolar and also has depression and anxiety. I think that when she is my roommate she gets a lot better and more in command. We have our conversations. She resented when I got transfer to Germany. She broke my heart when about age 4 or 5 she hugged me and told me "I don't want to get divorce... I meant I don't you and mom to divorce". She hated when I left for Germany because it was the end and I wanted to take her with me, I knew her mother will never give up only boy. Now as adult she tells me she wanted to come with me to Germany. I did not wanted to split the kids. I don't know your daughter age but get as much info you can from her. Many times what is needed comes up and may you and your daughter find a common ground. I don't believe much in medications even when they work. Is the dependency and the side effects. What ever happen don't give up on her. Let her see you in your good times and try to be part of her good times. Check how diet can change chemicals. I am sure you have done a lot of research on your options and possibilities, you are one of the most level headed here so all I may say you already heard and read before. But as a parent... I wish you good luck and better times.

@witchymom I am so fucking sorry to hear that. The way I was brought up... I can't stand any violence to a woman. It is the one thing that I feel so proud despite of being a womanizer SOB. Never occurred to me as an option. My Bi daughter got into a similar situation and she fought the 2 guys but she don't want to tell who they were. She may not talk about it because that is how PTSD sometimes work. Just be there for her. And I hope those guys find their day in court. I am just tired of of attacks to women. They are never deserving. Thanks for opening up to me. Wish you luck. It is a tough age without that experience.

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USA since 1776 has defined our human right of life liberty AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. ..support affirm and encourage everyone to be happy. ...the song SMILE THOUGH YOUR HEART IS ACHING is tagged for Charlie Chaplin. ...stumbling through life might be less depressing when we pursue happiness. ...quacking to some Canada geese and honking with them made me happy for the first moment since an illegal alien drunk driver totalled my truck 58 hours ago

Cops should deport him immediately

Happiness IS NEVER INDUCED by Modello or any other booze BUILD THE WALL SO THIS CRIMINAL CANNOT get back inside Myrtle Beach again

@GreenAtheist is that why since 1766 USA has exported its unhappiness to foreign countries through fomenting insurrection, revolution commercial pillage and attempting the suppression of all culture other than American driven commercial music, eating habits and art?
@Witchymom whilst trite isn't the definition of happiness simply "not unhappy"?

@witchymom dictionaries mis-define many words pretend sounds like gawd gott gods are words when there are no definitions for the alleged existence of non-existence. .... happiness like religion only exists inside our brains as concepts or reactions to situations. ....don't worry be happy is a Bobby McFerrin song. ...your daughter was happy playing eating favorite foods watching funny tv. ...build upon past happy scenes you remember her smiling about

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I too just want to be happy, the closest I can get is content, mostly satisfied. I was never happy as a child, in fact consider I have been fighting off unhappy most of my life. I can't define happiness, maybe why I can't find it.

@witchymom I wonder the same thing often. My kids have joy, they seem to have more than contentment as do a few people I have met over my life. To be honest, more people seem less content with their lot than I am with mine so I am not complaining. Many people have highs and lows, which i do not, my kids seem to have many highs and very few lows, ie when a pet or friend dies, so that can't be helped. Content is very good, but I feel there is something more, but also feel it will forever elude me, so it must be something about my makeup. I am very logical, I am unemotional, I do not "let go" so maybe that is why, and possibly another person in my situation would be delirious.

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Wow, I can identify with that

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I think happiness, or contentment, is our default state. If something is interfering with that, it can, potentially, be corrected.

skado Level 9 Jan 13, 2018

@witchymom I tend to think everyone’s default is happiness. If she hasn’t returned to that biological default in years it doesn’t mean her default is different. I don’t think explaining happiness is the answer. Maybe just help her find what’s blocking her happiness.

@witchymom rain drops and whiskers on kittens when the dog bites when the bee stings when I'm feeling sad, I simply remember my favorite things and then I don’t feel so bad

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Happiness to me is something that makes me smile,laugh and feel good in the moment.

@sassygirl3869 many people laugh at other's misfortune e.g.. The big suitcase bursting open in the middle of the street makes many laugh. However those who do laugh are they normally cruel? When the situation is reframed for them how many will continue in their happy state and how many will be consumed with guilty shame? Will that shame however be sufficient to make them unhappy?
I suggest each will react differently but most of those who were depressed prior to observing the ' pratfall' invoking laughter/happiness will not laugh or even if praised for their acuity and empathy in not laughing will not feel any the less depressed.
So can we advance happiness to mean something that "makes you smile, laugh, or feel good in the moment when it doesn't harm others"?

sorry I never laugh at anyone hurt, in danger or misfortuned

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I will try. ...Happiness is different things: Euphoria, contentment, good humor, a reaction of delight. It is a passing emotion, not a permanent state of being. One can "be happy," but one cannot be happy all the time. We are wired to experience a range of emotions, both good and bad, and we need to do so to have any sense of meaning for any of those emotions. If we were to be stuck in one emotional gear indefinitely, it would of necessity have to lead eventually to a kind of emotional numbness.

But maybe when we speak of happiness, we intend contentment. A feeling of appreciating what we have or what we are going through. Perhaps in includes self-esteem; being comfortable with our sense of who we are and confident in our ability to cope with whatever comes next.

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I act happy a lot by joking around and things like that.
It helps me forget how unhappy I am sometimes.

@Humanistinhouse Bipolar, but I don't really get very manic, the lows can hang around for a while sometimes until I 'level off' again.

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I don't know exactly how to define "happiness." It's rather like trying to define a particular color. Describing it we can do. Defining it?

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