In the past, people confronted me with the supposition that if I use expressions which use religious references, I am not agnostic. I disagree, and wrote a FB post about it at the time.
Which of these expressions do you hesitate to use, assuming they fit your dialect? Which do you use by accident?
Bless you, after a sneeze
Bless you, to indicate good will
Jesus Christ, as an expression of frustration
Jesus fucking Christ, if you swear in other circumstances
God damn you
Dammit
Go to Hell
God knows, as in no one knows
Heaven on earth, or seventh heaven
Heavens, as an expression of surprise
Thank God, as an expression of relief
Oh my God, as expression of surprise
Are there any other phrases in the dialect you share, which you avoid or try to avoid?
Interesting point ... i can't think of an atheist equivalent ... perhaps all the vast rest of the language is a reference to normality.
I do say "bless you" when someone sneezes. I am not specific about from whom the person can expect the blessing to come. I use "goddammit" and "Jesus Christ" as expletives, and have been known to tell someone to "go to hell." I don't feel it is necessary to believe something literally if it appropriately expresses a thought or feeling I wish to convey.
Yes, I use these terms all the time. Whether it is for swearing or just to be ironic or funny.
“Holy Mother Of God, that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard”
“Jesus Fucking Christ you’re stupid”
Usually I do try to avid certain references like, “act of God”, “God Knows”...etc. Sometimes at work, however I will use those terminologies to get my point across to those who believe. I try to remain professional and respectful of other’s beliefs and will adapt to my surroundings.
If I'm being honest.. I still use most of them..accept on AG...for two reasons.
It a force of habit which is deeply wired in through ingrained language and culture.
When communicating with Thiests..which I must do since they are family, friends, work colleagues..and the wider community..I need to communicate expressions like "go to he'll!" Like I really mean it.....
Not go to that place that in my opinion does not exist..finding an alternative..is just not an alternative for me..life is too short...
If I'm being honest.. I still use most of them..accept on AG...for two reasons.
It a force of habit which is deeply wired in through ingrained language and culture.
When communicating with Thiests..which I must do since they are family, friends, work colleagues..and the wider community..I need to communicate expressions like "go to he'll!" Like I really mean it.....
Not go to that place that in my opinion does not exist..finding am alternative..is just not an alternative for me..life is too short...
I have not put any real thought to it because they are just words. I don't want to put any meaning to it other than a phrase.
Oh lort. I still use most of them... though typically I don't say bless you if someone sneezes. Frankly, I don't see a point in saying anything other than, "need a tissue?"
I was raised in a religious household and yes those phrases were used a lot, they are engrained in my reactive response vocabulary. I've only been atheist for about a year now and every now and then I catch myself and try to switch phrases out with something that doesn't have anything to do with "God" or "Jesus".
I've gotten good at omitting "God" in front of "dammit", cutting the reactive exclamation "Jesus Christ" down to "geez", and switching a lot out for "fuck".
i've gone the opposite way and expanded on Jesus Christ. I think the longest I've gone is "Jesus Horatio Motherfucking Christ on a fucking cracker"
But it is a work in progress
Oh yes. My take on it is that these phrases have been integrated into the vernacular and, therefore, have lost most of their religious meaning. I don't use them for religious purposes, but more to express frustration or simply out of habit. I don't they have any religious meaning anymore.
Having been brought up Catholic and had cousins and uncles who were nuns or priests, I was told that "damn" is derived from God damn and is just as bad because when saying it you arr invoking or inciting God to send someone or something to Hell to suffer eternal damnation.
And remember, I'm just the messenger, and I'm signed up on this site too...
I am glad to see agreement
My mom got her habit from her father, who would only say "damnation" when I nowadays would say fuck. "It's not a swear, it's a state of being" was their excuse!
Been using Jesus Christ in frustration or surprise for about 55 years, mimicked from my parents (Jewish)
Been using Jesus Fucking Christ more and more as my health worsens, must be his fault right?
Not sure why damnit is religious (because only religious people can be damned????) But also have used that for about 55 years
But their argument makes about as much sense as saying if you use the word Kibbitz you must be Jewish. If you say "voila!" you must be French etc.
Habits are slow to die. One I do use a lot is "good lord."
You could change that up and say “oh lord of darkness”. ?
That is indeed a very good example. I say it too
Occasionally I use some that are mentioned here but 'Japanese Jesus ' is my 'bloody hell 'of American english....
I didn't really use those expressions when I was religious. I make it a point not to use them now, but due slip out on ocassion. For some people it's force of habit and not implying religious bs.
Most, I would say.
My dad cussed whenever he worked on a car. As I had kids, i realised I was apt to do the same thing so I created my own curse word to call cantankerous pieces of machines. Ubiquitous Whore. I found saying that at inanimate objects helped keep me from using any reference to god.
Whoa, better to use a term maligning women who have sex, than use play language? To me that is by far the wrong direction!
I use:
"Jesus Christ," as an expression of frustration or surprise
"God damn it"
"Oh my God" or "Holy shit," as an expression of surprise
Is "Dammit" actually a religious term? It doesn't seem like it has any religious connotation to it.
It is God who damns. Mortals do not have the power. So saying dammit still means God dammit. Of course it is blasphemous in the sense that one is telling God what to do!
@LionMousePudding I disagree. Anyone can "damn" anyone else. If you google the word, there's a "Christian belief" definition and another. Synonyms include condemn, criticize, attack, and denounce. People can do those things, not just a fake deity.
I also use "damn it" and "shit" interchangeably, so I'm just using it as the exclamation definition. haha
@joeymf86 I am only answering your question as to whether it is a religious term. Many or most of these phrases will have the vernacular usages in the dictionary