Well, this IS a non-religious sight. Isn't that the point? ...that we get to have a space where we, FOR ONCE, don't have to bend over backward to be diplomatic to religious factions that for generations haven't hesitated in the slightest to demonize us and blame us for every conceivable problem in the world! A little bluntness is called for by this point, perhaps even therapeutic for us. ????

I mean "site."

I think you are absolutely right. I am just venting a smidge, because their insistence on clinging to this system that has been the single biggest weapon for imposing condemnation on them is a stinnong degree of false consciousness.

Yes, I get it; the impossible-to-avoid cherry picking of doctrine. And I know many have interpretted scriptures more affirmatively on the question of homosexuality to make it work for them, but they still can't escape the fact of the weight of Christian history, including up to modern times, being so heavily tilted toward condemnation, that even in trying to be gay-positive, many end up tacitly accepting that it is some kind of sin and simply argue "it's no worse than any other sin." That is still so heavy, negative, and destructive to one's self-love efforts. Gay Christians end up looking an awful lot like apologists for the powerful societal institution that has literally called for their destruction and damnation for centuries. It is pitiful.

Saying "I'm religious," in this culture, usually does mean Judeo-Christian or Islamic. Not always, but the the great majority of cases. Otherwise, one is more likely to refer to oneself as spiritual and unaffiliated.

And the ones who DO are all on Facebook, which is why I came here for a little rationality.