Not sure if I really want to know what a goffer is....

I find that usually those persons who people don't wan tot see naked, also prefer not to see those sam,e person wearing clothes either. It is a learned cultural bias. Once Irealized that, I became a lot less judgemental myself.

There have been a lot of repliesw were people share your concerns.

I do know that at nudist clubs, or businesses that are clothing optional (like spas) it is good etiquette to carry a towel with you to sit on.

I think it depends on wht part of the country you are in. My experience in the Pacific Northwest (Oregon and Washington) is that nudity isn't really a big deal. Although legally Oregon is much more nude friendly than Washington. I have been told hat Vermont as pretty nude friendly laws too

@snytiger6
I believe you're correct in your observations. I was thinking about the context (is that the right word?) of being nude. I cannot imagine any organization I've worked for allowing nudity in the workplace. What about visiting an art museum? Or say, attending the Opera? A courtroom? Would you wear a great coat in the winter traveling to a restaurant and then remove it to be seated? I don't see this happening here in southern Ohio.

@bigpawbullets I actually went to a slothing optional day at the Portland (Oregon) Art Museum. It was right before the World Naked Bike ride.. (Th =e Portland WNBR attracts more than 10,000 riders each year).

As for workplaces and businesses, they can have dress codes, and most do.

I am aware that Bali has nude beaches, but they are also a part of Indonesia, which although Bali is mostly Hindu, Indonesia has a lot of Muslim extremists. In either case Hindu or Muslim, women do nto have equal status or rights. Without legal equality, social nudism is problematic, due to a lack of legal equality.

@snytiger6 wait just a minute you are obviously one with issues with Islam. Only a very small part of the population, the highest in Islam, may be radical unlike Christians in America. Bali is a semi autonomous island where women for many years worn no tops until about 20 years ago hand stop the practice due to Americans, Australians, and Euros were googoo eyes. Indonesia is a relatively moderate state and let’s talk about legal equality such as women in this country are underpaid by 20-30 percent of men. Also check out the murder rate of women by men. Also research LDS and women..... I could go on but I think we need to be careful when throwing stones. Asaalam Alechum

@Millerski25 I only stated that women are not considered equal in either the Hindu or Muslim faiths.

I myself was raised in the Mormon faith, and in that too women were not considered equal. although in America women do (supposedly) have equal right.

In my mind any kind of inequality is unacceptable.

@Millerski25 wage gap is disproven, and men murder women at a 2-1 rate. not nearly as crazy lopsided as you seem to be implying (not that Im condoning it by any stretch, just correcting misinformation.)