It's youth man Your tougher than I am, cause used to have similar opinion. Good to hear from ya. Always a pleasure.

I totally get it. It's tough to be around smokers if it bothers you. It makes me cough.

@Leutrelle, more & more australians give up smoking (it's damned expensive), so it's not often i get the nasty whiff these days.

Migraine are the worst! I had them for about 20 years.

I didn't realize it until I got COPD.

@Leutrelle, my mother, who was a non-smoker all her life, but copped second-hand smoke from her husband for 38 years, developed copd. so, yeah, unfair, but real.

@walklightly That is just sad

It's to bad there is so much smoking in the music world. My son in law is a musician and singer, and he does not smoke. I will have ask him about that. I remember seeing Joe Walsh "Barn Storm" at the Berkley community theatre, and everybody was smoking. A director came out several times saying"this a school, and you can't smoke here". But it seemed to only increase the smoking. It was a great time

@Leutrelle Many people don't realize smoke rises so musicians on an elevated stage get a concentrated dose of it. We use fans hidden behind our gear to push some of it away but when you are front and center like me its still pretty bad.

@kensmile4u I bet. The buildings went to concerts were most all elevated seating. We were always higher than the musicians. You make good point.

Other than my much younger days singing in a smoky bar band (we were paid in beer, so we didn't think much, plus I smoked then too), I don't currently have to perform in smoky venues any longer with my big choir. But, karaoke, which I do enjoy, is often held in smoky venues. I refuse to go to these venues if I know I have to sing. "You're a snob!" "So be it." Both of my parents smoked their way into smoky graves, but I quit in 1986. Second hand smoke is a terrible issue.

I haven't had that problem with vaps, but if it hurts you I'm with ya.

Good for you standing up to your mom.

Does that only apply to tobacco?

In social situations that I must participate in, no...it would also apply to coughing with Bronchitis, Pneumonia, Flu, etc. Sick persons have no business KNOWINGLY spreading their germs. If that is what you mean rather than industrial pollution.

What a smart kid you were.

@Leutrelle it hurts/stings

Sorry about your Dad. It is hard to watch a loved one die.

My dad died of lung cancer as well.

I like smokeless tobacco, I have quit once, but can't seem to quit again.

@Leutrelle, i just noticed that you do smoke (in your post you say you never did). "smokeless", does that mean vap? because of what i've heard about it, it's at least as shitty for your health, if not worse.

@walklightly No I don't vap. I know people who do. I use the can tobacco which I put a pinch under my lip, and no I don't spit. I lost that urge after about a year. I use about a can a week which is not very much. I would like to quit, but it is going to be a tough one. I get pretty grumpy when try. It is very addictive because it is in my mouth most of the time. I quit once and it is about three months of hell, and man I wish hadn't started again, but was under a lot of stress. I bought a small corporation, and was living 200 miles from home, the struggles of managing disgruntle employees who were mistreated by the previous owner, and driving back and forth on weekends, hiring and firing, borrowing more money, and etc I gave in, but man do I regret that.

@Leutrelle, yes, i do understand. stress makes us needy for comfort. well, for all that's worth, i had a very strong intention, health-based, when i gave up with assistance of a hypnotherapist. it did something to my brain, so now i can't fathom the idea of ever smoking again - & i used to smoke anything, like the dragon i am!

@walklightly Are you a Chinese astronomy Dragon? Because I am I will think on that hypnotherapist idea. I really would like to quit tobacco.

yes, @Leutrelle, i am a chinese water dragon re the quitting: i feel like having to emphasize again how very important your INTENTION is. it's the foundation of succes. the hypnotherapist is a mere tool, to fix your synapses

@walklightly I live in the boondocks, but I am going ask around and look into hypnotherapy. Yes I understand one really must want to quit, and I do. I have enough health issues W/O adding more. I am in the scramble mode concerning health issues. Thanks so much for looking out

@Leutrelle, you're very welcome. i wish you much strength & every success with your endeavour.

I don't know how you did it. Every one I know Vaps now.

@Leutrelle lots of will power. I now know that nicotine releases high amounts of dopamine in your brain making it even harder to quit. I ate a lot of pumpkin seeds helped a lot.

@azzow2 Pumpkin eh? I love pumpkin seeds. I wonder if that will help with a smokeless tobacco habit?

@Leutrelle can only try. Those vapors are bad. I have heard that they can cause lots of problems. I know some but won't share just can tell you get away from nicitione you will feel better.

How about smoking meat?

How about smoking hot gorgeous? I should have qualified my comment by saying "cigarette smoke" but thought it was understood.

@jlynn37 I know I should have put after.