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Whats your opinion of the Bible?

I was raised on the Bible, Im an atheist now. But I do have respect for the book, considering how old it is, and it does have some good advice.
Id like to hear your opinions, thanks

gater 7 Jan 28
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The Big Book of Adult Fairy Tales

The Big Book of Multiple Choice.

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I think you can find whatever you want in it. It is a good pandora's box.

@irascible I think some people are happy with what they find there...I can say that Revelation kept me entertained while I was in boot...maybe all things that people find are a false hope in another person's eyes.

@irascible I found it a fun read...and bootcamp wasn't too bad...but yeah, you are glad when it is over...haha

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Compendium of fictional short stories.

Gohan Level 7 Jan 29, 2018
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It's a collection of stories, with some valid moral guidance. Though some of that guidance is of its time, and needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt a couple of millennia later. It provides comfort for those who believe.

It becomes problematic when people take it too literally. The Young Earth Creationists. Those who believe that the Great Flood really happened. Belief in an all powerful God who can create a universe in 6 literal days, and who can summon masses of water from nowhere, and then make it go away again a few weeks later... but who still can't create life from two males or two females.

One of the functions of religion is to explain the inexplicable. But we now have scientific explanations of many things that make some parts of the bible very difficult to believe from a rational viewpoint.

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There are better uses for trees than their publication as bibles.

I was raised in a strict Catholic family (e.g. We recited the 50-bead rosary every night.)

I hold no reverence for the bible and rank it as low as any tabloid magazine. I cherish my collection of "airplane" paperbacks more.

Interestingly in regards to my aethism, I still can't bring myself to disrespect The Virgin Mary. Weird.

Though I can write things like: she was only one of a millions of women of the time who was probably sold or traded off to their husband, or was one of a million parents who adopted or kidnapped someone else's kids because they couldn't have kids, - or whatever story I try to make about them, I can't help but wince and feel disrespectful.

I have no problems with disrespecting Jesus, the con man.

Weird, huh?

@Atheistman dunno. Last bit of indoctrination left?

As for Jesus, I think there was a person who became the Christian Jesus. Could be one or an amalgamation of several from the hundreds of the popular priests or prophets of that time. Narratively, even fictional characters are based on one or some people. That's my personal belief of Jesus anyway.

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The bible is a biased collection of scriptures. These scriptures are scattered about the planet. So easy to combine ones favorites and compose a platform
It just stuns me to see so many people taking it literally, In this time, the still accept two thousand year old text as reality and yet deny science. How on earth can one do this

EMC2 Level 8 Jan 29, 2018

I don't know - my brother - that has a phd - believes the earth is about 6,000 years old. I asked about the Grand Canyon and the millions of years of geological evidence - he says God made it that way.

@gater He has a PHD and truly believes this??? Is his degree in theology? I too know people who are educated in the sciences and do not accept evolution so go figure. The extent of god guilt even takes away from the intellect of a degree

@EMC2 his degree is in psychology, actually a PsyD. His beliefs blow my mind.

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Lots of great fiction. Not divinely inspired. Mythology used to oppress the massive. Very patriarchal, subversion of women. There are better books for lifestyle learning.

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I think if you understand that it is a collection of books written separately and spread out over a large expanse of time, and take them each in relation to the times in which they were meant to address, then they have far more value for both addressing human needs and explaining our collective human pasts, than if you look upon them as a literal and unequivocal word of law, unchanging and forever valid. Most of the books were never meant to be taken literally, that's a relatively new adaptation that came about to address an exodus of belief brought on by industrialization and science. 200 years ago no one would have dreamt that the books be considered as actual fact.

There is a lot of value there, but you have to take them in context. Much of what we see in the media and from the so called Neocons is based on a complete lack of understanding of the times and purposes in which and for which the books were written.

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Poorly written fiction, that's plagiarized and cannibalized every ancient text that came before it.

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I prefer Norse and Greek mythology.

Me too, my friends call me Odins Atheist.

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It has a lot of B.S. It also has poetry and good advice. You can find all kinds of things in it. People cherry pick. The kind religious people I know cherry pick the parts that supports human rights. The Religious Right pick the parts that support cruel behavior.

SKH78 Level 8 Jan 29, 2018
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very old , very weird and not relevant in any way to todays level of understanding of our world

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I think Sam Harris has an argument about the moralities found in the Bible. (I think it was Sam Harris. It could be another guy.)

It goes:

If humanity has a "do over" without our current religion, do you think the moralities found in our bibles (e.g. be kind to others, don't kill, honour your elders, don't steal, etc.) will also be discovered by that new humanity whether in a different religion or without religion?

If you think yes, then you can take that as proof that our bibles are just ink on paper.

If no, you might want to find out why you still hold the bible with reverence. If it's because it's your compass to doing good, then that in itself can't be bad.

Well in that perspective, yes but ALL religions state the very same which then shows the Bible as one of a large number, The key here is that we , the human being, chose to build a civil society . No more , no less, If a parent says I do not to kill my child, it is not the bible that decided this, it is just pure wonderful humanism.

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A bunch of dusty old tales with some dubious historicity. It's not a fun read, and any good advice it may have is usually undercut by much more crap. How anyone can base their life around it is beyond me, then again everyone likes to just cherry pick the ever loving crap out of "gods perfect word".

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I very well written fairytale that continues to cause worldwide problems.

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It belongs on the same bookshelf as the one with the Greek and Roman gods and others as it mythology, just like they are.

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Any source of information that contradicts itself , must be brought into question , & such infractions cannot be dismissed by ambiguity , apology , or any other means . A book written by men inspired by god , at days end is simply a product of fallible humans . Like a broken clock , it is correct from time to time , but other than that , it , like other devices of kings & emperors , was developed more to control the ignorant masses , at the expense of the truth . There is simply so much evidence that Jesus was an amalgamation of various people , & folk tales , that the actual existence of the character , simply never was . This is also true with other folk heroes as William Tell , Joan of Arc , William Shakespeare , Robinhood , King Aurther Penndragon , & quite a few Saints as well . Like all other things in life , take what is good from it , leave the rest behind , & move on . . .

Dougy Level 7 Jan 29, 2018
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Fiction book to control the masses of asses

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Bad and poorly written books....also... have a great use; they help -by comparison- to recognize the good literature from the junk.
The bible is ine of those bad books.

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Tiolet paper.

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All the "Good stuff" in the bible was just extreme racism. When it says "thou shalt not kill" what it means is: thou shalt not kill the Jews in your tribe. Same for all the other "good" parts. The bible is the Jewish Mein Kampfh. Wait, that's harsh, Hitler was the first person to enact animal cruelty laws. No one's all bad, except Yahweh.

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I find the bible very handy......in most hotels by law ? I use the pages to roll cigarettes if out of papers .

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I think the Bible kind of follows along the same line and has many of the same aspects as most religious texts. I feel like Christianity as a whole is a great religion in theory, but not so much in practice.

Of course, you just have to realize many of the traditions and celebrations Christians hold sacred are cannibalized from other religions, mostly Pagan religions (ie Christmas and Easter). Realizing that, the fact that the Bible has so many aspects of other religions makes perfect sense.

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A friend of mine came up with this title: "The Holy Bible--a survivor's guide for desert-living".

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It's a derivative of the Sumerian writings, which predates the Bible by 2000 years, but has similar stories, except from the perspective of aliens who genetically engineered humans to work the gold mines.

In the Noah and Ark story, for instance, the main Sumerian "god" leader, Anu, of the blood-thirsty White Draco race, was planning for them to withdraw from the earth a ways to avoid the coming flooding that would occur when another planet passed too close to earth, letting the slaves drown.

But the two gods who created the humans in the first place, using their own DNA mixed with native human apes, and also genetically engineered wild and domestic animals as well, secretly saved their favorite Noah family, showing them how to build a submarine, and storing animal DNA in it, instead of the real animals.

The origins of human beings according to ancient Sumerian texts [ancient-origins.net]?

Heeey - I like those Sumerians. Thats a story that would make a fantastic movie. I'm going to read up on them. I have always wondered about the "synchronicity" of how the 12 elements of the biblical creation story compare to science.

"Nine are scientifically correct, and just two are in the wrong order: birds and plants.
One is scientifically wrong: the creation of man."

[huffingtonpost.com]

Even the bird plant thing, out or order, is probably pretty impressive after , say 4000 years.

Considering the confused stories from other civilisations, emphasize the singularity of wherever this "estimate" came from.?

The Sumerian Alien idea makes it even more fascinating 🙂

@BanjoTango The original Hebrew tells the creation story differently than how it was translated for the KJV version of the Bible; for example, the word translated "created" can also mean to bring to increasing levels or organization. The word translated "dust" means particles. The word translated "rib" meant a walled room, and can also mean "cell." But the idea that humans were genetically engineered was a story that made more sense than the one in the Bible.

@birdingnut How fascinating. I was always intrigued by being told that the Hebrew word for God in the Old Testament (Elohim) was literally Elois ( God) and Heim, the Hebrew suffix for plural or many. Personally, if I were an advanced civilization mining the universe, I'd bring a lot of help too. Don't you love a good fantasy, it beats reality everytime. 🙂

@BanjoTango Well, when I read it I felt relief. I really had been bothered, even when still religious, that the Hebrew god of the Bible was so cruel and blood-thirsty ordering his armies to kill every man, woman, and baby, and to kill the animals, etc. Ordering people who picked up a stick on Saturday to be stoned to death, etc. The Sumerian writings account is more scientific and makes more sense to me than the Bible account, which seems like badly copied bootleg copy of the Sumerian account.

It's obvious that "Anu" is the Hebrew god, and he was unabashedly blood-thirsty, requiring blood sacrifices from his human slaves, since that race of beings drinks blood.

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