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Anyone ever wonder if the solution to Americas mass shootings was very simple?

I was talking to an American friend a few years ago and he agreed there was a bit problem in the US with gang shootings, armed robberies, etc.

So I jokingly said "If I was in charge, I'd just arm everyone and give them rubber bullets. If one decides to shoot up the school then you just all fire at them at once"

He took it seriously and thought that rubber bullets was the solution. I still disagree that rubber bullets would solve anything but what do you think?

(NOT the part about arming everyone, JUST the part about rubber bullets?)

So say you need real ammunition for hunting, target shooting or pest control. You'd just need to apply for a license and have an extensive background check. Which would clear you for the rest of your life and allow you access to metal ammunition.

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Lancer 7 Feb 4
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It is the grey matter and not the gun metal that is the problem.
I find it interesting that more common forms of death that we are likely to experience are not so talked about or feared as someone trying to resolve personal conflicts with a firearm. The safer our society becomes the less tolerant we are to the "perceived" threats.

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Just arm more people with guns with real bullets. That way more people could shoot back so we wouldn’t have many mass shootings as the shooter would get his ass shot before he could shoot very many. Also the shooter might think twice about going on a shooting spree to start with if he knew it was likely people were going to be shooting back.

That makes sense. The only problem I have with that is the fact that I don't trust all these emotional crazy unstable sexually confused but jobs we call "people" with any weapon at all.

If you look at a country like Australia where 66% of tradesmen go to work with at least 1 type of drug in their system. You'd also understand why it would be horrible to arm people like that.

Even though I myself would like to be armed at all times. In case a shooter or terrorist decides to try end my life.

I can't even carry a leather mans in the UK. it's a really good country at making victims.

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I think they need to look further into if these shootings are mostly because of SSRIs. If it's a cause of all the shootings then I don't think anything will change any time soon being that SSRIs are a huge part of pharmaceutical companies sales. SSRIs came out in 1982 (Zimeldine). Mass shootings skyrocketed in the 1980s. A lot of mass shooters have been found to be on SSRIs. There might be a link.

You could be right.

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More and more I’m looking at ‘my nation’ as a failed experiment... Once feeling superior to the world, now that the easily plucked resources and unlimited open space has been populated, we’ve become like rats in a box. I think it’s up to the civilized nations, however imperfect they be, to show us the way.. Some behaviour might be considered flukes or trends, but having elected the two worst presidents in our history nearly back to back, along with a cavalcade of mass murder … there may be no answers to our dilemma 😐

Varn Level 8 Feb 4, 2018
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You can kill someone with a rubber bullet.

I know. The idea was a "less than lethal" alternative

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I like the idea of both. I have a concealed weapons permit, and I would like the choice of being able to use lethal or nonlethal force. I have never looked there may already be rubber bullets on the market.

Shooting guns thus far and hopefully for the rest of my life is purely for sport. I love to shoot targets, and the vast majority of gun owners feel the same way. Using a weapon for self defense is the last resort.

I completely agree with you

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How about heavily taxing ammunition and gunpowder?

Betty Level 8 Feb 4, 2018

I’ve watched fathers let their kids go without decent shoes yet ‘every payday’ purchase another gun! Those same kind of fanatics have been hoarding powder and bullets for 30 years now, assuming, when ‘all hell breaks loose,’ they’ll not only ‘win,’ but become rich selling guns & ammo.. And when ‘the end times’ don’t arrive, decide to go out taking as many as possible with them...

That'd never work. That just means the poorer people won't be able to afford ammunition to practice. Making them less accurate, causing more damage and possibly injuring innocent bystanders.

@Varn

Scary thought. 😟

@Lancer

It was a thought. 😉

@Varn If fanatics are hoarding guns and ammunition, then there are less for the bad guys to shoot people with so that would be a good thing.

@dahermit They’ve fed an industry that’s used it’s profits to encourage more consumption and pay off politicians to keep it all going… And with all that ammo out there, there’s more for the bad guys to take..

@dahermit

Wouldn't they just make more? Every time there is a mass shooting gun/ammo sales go up. Isn't it logical that the manufacturers would increase production?

For what purpose? What do you hope to accomplish?

@dahermit

It was just a thought. If ammo is very expensive then the perps would be more careful about waste, and maybe there would be less drive-by shootings. Possibly law enforcement would have more opportunity to concentrate on the underground sales of firearms/ammo instead of the kids on the street in gangs shooting each other.

@Betty I like that idea...as a person who makes his own ammo in great abundance to allow me to shoot about 13,140 rounds per year on my home range, if there was an ammo shortage it would up the price and I could make more to sell on the Black Market. I could make some serious money.

@dahermit

The black market being illegal would mean serious jail time if you were caught and since there would be money from taxes the ATF would have the resources to find you.

@Betty There is serious jail time for being a drug dealer but that has not resulted in fewer people addicted to drugs.

"How about heavily taxing ammunition and gunpowder?" Why should those of us who use guns for hunting, target, shooting, etc. have to pay more because there are criminals who use guns to kill people? None of my guns have ever killed anyone.

@dahermit

That's like saying, why should my insurance go up, I've never had an accident?

Tax dollars fund services you'll never use. You don't use women's health clinics, why should you pay for it?

Are you telling me that you have gotten the benefit of all the services that your tax dollars have paid for? If you did then you would be the first one I have heard of.

@dahermit

That's a different conversation since it is a little more complicated. The health profession has a measure of responsibility that hasn't been dealt with.

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A foolish "solution"...as a gun owner, hand loader, and bullet caster, I am not even going to attempt to tell you why inasmuch as you likely would not understand (hint: bullet casters make their own bullets out of METAL). Other than that, why is a U.K. citizen sticking one's nose into American politics...we do not tell you how silly the British system is.

I already said I didn't think it was a real solution. It was a joke I said to a friend.

Also just chill. I'm not your enemy. I enjoy target shooting myself and if I could. I'd shoot almost every day.

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look at Britain though it is heading the way of America and if I lived there I would have a couple of dogs and a taser and an alarm.

it's the world we made ourselves

@LeighShelton What ever that means.

well guns and violence are a human trait that we do to our own kind

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