Speaking form my own upbringing, my mother is devoutly christian/protestant to this day. She didn't have the happiest of marriages with my father, but always felt comfort in her religious beliefs and that seemed to carry her through.
As a child I was carried along for the ride and followed it blindly, to the point where my older sister used to joke about her brother, the minister.
That all changed in a big way during my teen years when I began to think and see the hypocrisies present in the religion and its followers. I became disillusioned and left the church. I've been a self-proclaimed Agnostic ever since, as Merriam-Webster defines it. My life has not always been happy since, and I've questioned much since those days. It does seem the devout find comfort and generally live happier lives, however blindly.
What is your take? Were you once religious, or followed a religion you gave up on? Do you believe your life has been made better or worse for that decision?
I am much happier since I quit my religion and dumped all superstitions.
How many years ago was that?
I quit my religion 54 years ago. I finally got rid of all my superstitions 50 years ago. I had a lot of superstitions that I didn't realize were superstitions. The worst and most destructive one was the belief in free will.
I am so much more happier as an atheist and I'm a better person as well.
I think that people who become atheists or agnostics tend to be more intelligent and more thoughtful and enlightened when it comes to ethics.
Generally speaking religious people tend to be less intelligent than nonbelievers. Intelligent people tend to be less happy than unintelligent people. I know plenty of miserable Christians though.
I’m Irish. People have no idea what the Catholic Church done to our heads. James
All those poor little boys.
Hey, I can use my favourite Douglas Adams quote HERE as well
"... so I'd much rather be happy than right"
" And ARE You ?" asked Ford
"Well, no ... that's where it all falls down you see " grinned Slartibartfast.
Once you know thats its nonsense, you can't possibly be happy trying to suppress facts. It just doesn't work.
"There is no going back" said Morpheus as he handed him the pills.
HMM very interesting question
I think I will answer this by Quoting a man that is one of my hero's and goes right up there with Jean Paul Satre. This gentleman is my fellow countryman Sir Arthur C Clarke'
Finally, I would like to assure my many Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, and Muslim friends that I am sincerely happy that the religion which Chance has given you has contributed to your peace of mind (and often, as Western medical science now reluctantly admits, to your physical well-being). Perhaps it is better to be un-sane and happy, than sane and un-happy. But it is the best of all to be sane and happy. Whether our descendants can achieve that goal will be the greatest challenge of the future. Indeed, it may well decide whether we have any future.”
3001 The Final Odyssey
So in my own words to sum up. YES religious people ARE happy, but they are NOT sane!
Who could be happy with all that guilt.
So then you're saying you life is guilt and remorse free? More power to you if that's the case.
No, I am saying everything I do is driven by guilt and remorse.
I was less happy as a Christian than I am now. I am liberated from the fear of hell and Yahweh .
I’m sure it is subjective, but many if the christians I know are unhappy. Think about it, god judges their every action and finds them unworthy to be loved.
Not true. Many believe that as long as they continue believing their sins will be forgiven. Those that are REALLY out there basically think they can get away with murder and though they may be judged in this lifetime, will be forgiven in the next.
Hitchens asks the question in "God is Not Great" that goes something like if their belief system is the one Truth, why doesn't it make its adherents happy? Why don't they rise to the top like cream? This seemed like a great question to me. And the idea that it brings them comfort has to be balanced out by the torture they feel by being human and occasionally doing deeds and performing acts that are proscribed. If it brings them any comfort it comes from the same hand that holds the lash. I say spank my ass and pass the bacon.
I miss believing in someone looking after me, and having a built-in social construct where I can plug in, and suddenly have friends, fellowship, group activities, can jam with fellow musicians, etc.
It's more difficult taking responsibility for my own life and mistakes, but OH SUCH A RELIEF!!!
After reading about the Sumerian texts carved on the Babylon wall, written 2000 years before the Bible, but with the same stories and similar names for characters, I was overjoyed to find that the bloody, revengeful Hebrew god of the Bible was likely modeled after blood-drinking, "Anu," the head Sumerian god.
I'd rather have been genetically engineered by aliens anyway, much more sci-fi, and cool!
The origins of human beings according to ancient Sumerian texts [ancient-origins.net]?
I definitely am glad I left the church and Christianity behind and began thinking more independently. By doing so, I've gained insights I might not have otherwise, and a greater awareness of possibilities and choices available to me. I think if some Christians are happier because of their religion, it's because ignorance can be bliss.
I don’t know why they would be happier as it seems they would be worried about going to hell. However you also have to consider the possibility that if they believed they were going to heaven and not ceasing to exist that could possibly make them happier.
Ah, but you see they DON'T believe they are going to hell. Only non-believers go to hell. And the more fundamental they are they seem to think that they can get away with anything in this life, as long as they pray for forgiveness later.
How will I know without knocking on doors? Not a psychic. I am happy for what I had experience, for what I am and more than anything else because or what I don't envy from the guy next to me. I live without greed and when you live without greed... you can be happy pretty easy regardless of god or not god belief.
I'm much happier since leaving Christianity, probably due to the lack of cognitive dissonance in my life.
My parents are extremely religious and seem to find great comfort in their beliefs. My sister is a Christmas and Easter Christian who is raising her son to be the same (their family mostly worships at the altar of football, though). My brother is an extreme evangelical fundamentalist. None of them seem truly happy to me.
However, I've noticed that most people who don't think deeply are happiest with someone to tell them what to think and do. I find myself agreeing with Socrates that the unexamined life is not worth living.
I think it depends.
For most (all but two) of those I de-converted back to atheist, they have told me they are happier as atheists. One relapsed into theism and the other (the brightest of the lot) tells me she is much more miserable as she has become an enlightened and highly sceptical atheist who now sees the world the way it actually is.
My favorite analogy to this question is a quote from Darby O Gill and the Little People
"01:13:15 who was happy altogether... 01:13:19 the village idiot." Yes, the ignorance is bliss assertion - - As the question is happiness not enlightenment, theists may have the edge as they can use faith (belief without evidence) as a deluded methodology to accept whatever they wish as fact.
I am much happier since I dropped out of the religious scene. Religion always paced guilt before happiness and I found this to be wrong. Life was to short to always be feeling some kind of guilt and to spend hours saying the same words over and over again to no avail. I did not see the miracles some stated they viewed like those standing in a church when a tornado passed over taking the building but not the people. I asked why was god angry at the church? Common sense and logic won me over and I have been very happy sense.
The poor and uneducated(and particularly minorities)are the most religious people in the country, yet when I go to their communities, all I see is sheer misery...
Just because their circumstance may be miserable, does that mean they are miserable too?
I think it depends on the person, happiness comes from your state of mind and how you live + the people around you. It can take only one complete bastard to make your life a misery( its got nothing to do with believing in the ridiculous) surround yourself with positive people and tell the miserable sods to bugger off. The only outcome from believing in a God is disappointment .