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Is the idea of a nice polite guy a lost art? opening the car door, bringing flowers for no real reason, remembering a birthday or other anniversary ( not ness. a couple anniversary but a first date, first kiss, etc)

I'm open to opinons from everyone but i am really looking for thoughts from younger women 18-35.

Pfr1998 5 Nov 30
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Some women find the things you list demeaning and sexist here in the 21st century. I was socialized to do such things, too, and if I were still dating today, I'd find the uncertain expectations to be a bit of a mine field. On the other hand, I don't like women who expect you to read their minds, either, so I'd discuss my way out of it. What are your expectations, I was raised to open doors for women, out of respect -- but if you feel differently, I respect that. Etc. In point of fact my wife doesn't like doors being opened for her and we negotiated that off the table early on.

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Yes, yes it is. In all of the age groups.

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My experience has been, many younger women, not so much, more mature women, yes. Of course my experience with younger women was a long, long, long time ago. Maybe things have changed, but l doubt it. 🙂

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