@OwlInASack he started covering his ass the moment he started committing crimes. He is his father’s son, after all.

Can the state start their investigation ahead of the federal? Which takes precedence?

@thinktwice Don't know - the courts would have to decide it. My guess is whichever ends up being more severe, but to be honest, this is in large part why I doubt the law will change. It's just overly complicated.

@thinktwice the two jurisdictions are independent, the state can proceed first or wait to see if anything comes to light they can use from the federal investigation. The Gamble case is not likely to change anything, first because it would not exclude many dual prosecutions and second because SCOTUS appears likely to deny the challenge to the separate sovereigns doctrine anyway. Oral arguments were last week, and only RBG appeared solidly in favor of the plaintiff's case.

@alliwant Thanks...I have watched several attorneys speak on this and they all have different views and interpretations of the laws and the potential outcomes...sheesh...with this guy, one needs to constantly google and research...it is tiring!! lol

The Times reporters explained that the IRS is outgunned in cases like this. Drumpf Inc. can hire suits to delay, obfuscate and deflect them for as long as it takes, then settle a huge case out of court by paying a million or two instead of the IRS ever getting to the depth of the issues, which are orders of magnitude more profitable than the fines are painful.

@CallMeDave If he is evading taxes on the federal level, he is doing it on the state level...the returns mirror each other in most cases. While in office, it is unbelievable that he is the commander of the IRS...he has no say at the state level. I am sure that while it seems overwhelming, tax auditors from both have had more difficult cases and are persistent...they didn't come up with the expression that there are only two sure things in life...death and taxes...

@thinktwice you are surprised no one looked into his dealings as far back as...
I happened to catch an interview of the investigating reporters and this very question was raised. It was explained that it has been looked into before, details in my previous post.
You're welcome.

@CallMeDave Thanks...I don't follow your posts but I will check it out...the statutes for tax evasion are complicated depending on whether income was hidden, or expenses overstated, etc. If his accountants were as good as his attorney, Cohen, I am sure we can find some juicy bits in there...

@thinktwice send in the hounds

@CallMeDave Since 2010, the IRS has been systematically stripped. They can't investigate nearly as much as they once could. The Atlantic ran a story with their usual level of detail: [theatlantic.com]

@alliwant What a good article...