So what is the solution to the online dating fiasco? Now that we have read articles, have shared experiences on various posts and agreed that there is a problem with online dating; lets discuss solutions. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix the problems with online dating?
Be careful what you ask for. Someone may say.... "This is the solution to club scene dating fiasco"
Yes, don't do it. meet and greet people in places like here and see what happens or go about your normal life and get out more.
An opinion here: Our real life persona and our on-line persona really are different. All of us are that way. Add onto that, in the on-line world a lot of the cues we use are not to be seen. So the two people who love each other on-line and decide to meet for real are totally taken aback at the person they meet who is not at all like the person they came to love.
Differing personas can exist in real life, depending upon the social context, too. I have spent time in real life with people I had met and gotten to know online. My impressions of them and they of me were that we seemed the same in real life. So while what you say I'm sure does happen just so, it isn't an absolute.
I would say the problem is not online dating. The problem is online daters, probably myself first and foremost. I find online dating no different than offline dating. The problems being, no-one I meet has the necessary attributes to entice me to commit to them, and the converse is also true, I do not posses the attributes necessary to attract that person. We are too fussy and unwilling to compromise, if we are smart, our lives are already pretty "nice". It is the old 80/20 principle, 80% of my life is great, so do I risk that to try and fix the other 20% or trade the 80% great, for the 20% great? If I ever find someone who really fits with me and I with her, I am there, but I doubt it will happen. I am not impossible, I have been in love, I have loved, been loved, I do know what I am missing.
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I am into dancing so I need to see you dance before my juices are flowing. I believe in "Body Language", in "Vibes". This site is alright with me. All this is New to me. I am a Virgin here. Offering something totally out of my element. I am the one that need to catch up.
An interesting take on dancing...
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@NaturalBornCynic I agree 100%. Always been like that for me. I had to see that body language when the music comes up. If she can't feel it. I am not interested and yet I know my next significant other is not going to be met in the dance floor. And I am willing to explore why some women can't feel the music. I may be Very Disappointed wasting my time in such an Animal but I reckon must be in my bucket list of lust, desire and failure to experience.
I'm a hopeless techy, and have been doing the online dating thing off and on since way before it was cool. The trick is to not take it seriously. It's absolutely nothing more than networking. Playing the numbers. You meet a large number of people and just enjoy the ride. Yes, there are a lot of con artists of both genders. You just have to navigate around those people to get to the ones that are worth meeting. But you also have to be honest about who you are. No one likes to be lied to. First encounters can be awkward enough, they can get downright ugly if one hasn't been honest about themselves.
I agree...honesty is key. With that said, maybe we can start with an honest and current profile picture. (I took mine the day I joined the site.) Just saying...
I don't think you can.
Online dating streamlines certain things about your prospective mate. You can filter out undesirable attributes, and filter IN desirable attributes.
However, they don't allow you to just talk and get to know each other. Even when you CAN do that, you don't find out where they squeeze the toothpaste tube until they invite you over... or you both gravitate to your place or theirs.
It's why we go through so many relationships. We get into private and we see/hear things that grate on us... or we do NOT see/hear things that grate on us. We drift apart, or we get even closer. Just liking someone, getting to know them well enough to want to give a relationship a try is no guarantee that it will work out.
I do really wish that we had a better view on this. I like eHarmony's quote about someone moving on, they say something about "now you know this isn't the one" and are better able to find the right one next. I have adopted this view. Let's date, talk, play a game, maybe go for dinner, maybe drinks and see how we get along. If we realize (before or after sex) that... um, no, this isn't right. We should be able to be adult about it and say so and NOT be castigated when we do. Unfortunately, too often we lash out which only makes it harder to move on to the next attempt. :/
eHarmony does seem to have a better understanding of the attibutes of online dating. However, the price you pay is steep and you need to be on the website for a long period of time. I still find that socializing in Meetups and other social venues is the way to go. Unfortunately, not everyone has these types of social events in thier location.
@sciteachmd I have my doubts that such social venues would be very useful for introverts.
I don't know if this is a solution. I didnt read the articles but I will share on line here and if there is a connection good if now sie la guerre.If I decide to connect it will be in a public place that has a common focus, no expectation except the day together and go from there
What I love about this site is there’s no pressure. We get to know each other by responding to posts and it just goes on from there.
This is the element I see missing from other dating sites. The formalized contact doesn't allow for just sitting in a room and chatting with everyone (what we'd do in an offline setting), getting to know each other and gravitating towards some and away from others until some realize there must be a reason they keep 'bumping' into each other.
I believe this why we have so much office romance. You get to know each other through a non-romantic means. Then you start to just gravitate together until... you give a relationship a whirl.
We don't seem to have that natural 'melting pot' in our society anymore (America), at least not for all of us. For my part:
I don't go to bars: smoke and, usually, noise.
I don't go to dance places: I don't dance and they are too loud to talk/converse with people and get to know them. In the end, you really only know what they look like and how well they dance.
I don't go to church: I don't believe. I must expand on this one: one of my stepmoms told me to go to church to find a girl/woman/wife. I replied that I would be lying and what kind of relationship would that lead to? I mean, if I haunt a church, it would be a natural assumption that I was a believer. Even if I told them up front that I wasn't, they'd still be questioning my attendance at church. Either I would be lying (I would) or I was a believer who was unsure of his beliefs... no matter how I sliced it, it seemed wrong to me. Fortunately, she was impressed with my desired honesty and analysis.
So much more... but, the fact is that we have become separatists unless you partake in the above activities that can often be seen as illicit. Which is sad.
I wish we were like Germans. You go to a restaurant, pick a likely seat, maybe next to someone who looks interesting and ask "ist hier frei?" "Is this seat taken." If they say yes it is, you move on. If they don't, you sit down at the table, with the other guests, and eat. Pubs are where people get together in a community and talk... not blare out loud music and NOT talk. If we did this, it would open up restaurants as a social place to get to know... anyone... then let gravity do it's thing.
This website is a wonderful improvement over other online dating venues. It is one of it's kind, innovative, and overflowing with great attributes. Perhaps this is the solution!
I feel this way too. I used to drink quite heavily but stopped and my life is so much better alcohol free. But I also lost my friends. I can’t hang around people who drink to get wasted and can only have a conversation with me when they’re drunk. It’s like asking a recovering heroin addict to still hang out with his heroin buddies. It doesn’t work.
I wasted over 20 yrs on drinking. I’ve never been on a true first date. I’ve never been intimate sober. Life is so much different for me now that I don’t ever want to go back there.
But the older you get the harder it is to make new friends and get into a long-term commitment. We meet people through friends, at work, or church. Church is a big no-no for me. Like you said I’d just be lying. It’s especially difficult for me because I’m disabled due to depression and I don’t have those outlets to meet people. It’s also hard on dating sites because the first thing people want to know is “what do you do?” We seem to value that quite highly.
I like how this site is setup. I can be me and if I spark someone’s interest that’s great!
I have been on the internet and on dating sites for 23 years and I know from experience what can happen here. I have no issue with online dating sites and nothing needs to be fixed. The internet is an adult playground for role playing, fantasy games, scammers and just about anything else you can imagine. Accept it for what it is and see what can happen. It is free to try, you have total control of what you do here and no one is under any obligation to anyone else. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Your mileage may vary.
I'm a newbie. I'm only less than two months into this and I'm having a blast.
I am pretty inexperienced with dating but have established a few rules that have helped so far.
Ignore/block people who start off being disrespectful. Chat a bit online (not too long) before meeting in person - lots of guys will rule themselves out in the first 6 messages exchanged. Meet in a public place and let someone know where you are, and ask them to check in with you if they haven’t heard from you by a specific time.
Jennifer, coming from an 'experienced' on line dater, your rules are spot on!