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What do you believe in?

I've been asked by many people who believe in a higher power or a God what I believe in. I ask all of you, what do you believe in?

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Occgenius 5 Jan 11
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Everything that I see around me.

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Whatever I believe in MUST be supported by evidence, facts and data.

Trouble is that two people can believe that their opinions are supported by evidence, facts and data, but yet be in complete disagreement.

@WilliamFleming I do not concern myself with what other's opinions might lead them too. I can only perceive truth and reality through my senses and my brain and no one else's. That is where you do you, I do me and let's strive to do or cause no harm comes into play.

@WilliamFleming it is hard to deal with people who believe their opinions are supported by facts when you know a couple of things, namely 1. that you yourself are fairly well grounded and not delusional and 2. you remember what you personally observed and 3. the "facts" the other party believes support his/her opinions are known to you, not through bias but through those observations and a good grip on history not to be facts at all.

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@genessa Well of course from your perspective all of your “facts” are totally true.and your opinion is the correct one. Why else would you have such a firm belief?

No one person has the complete picture however, and all opinions are shallow in an ultimate sense because of human limitations. Otherwise we’d all be in agreement all the time.

Which of your opinions are you talking about? From my perspective your opinion might be right on the mark.

@WilliamFleming yeah, yeah, we might all be dreaming or part of someone else's dream, right? but setting THAT aside, there ARE facts. i didn't have anything specific in mind but let me dredge one up. okay, here's one. in 1960, senator john kennedy motorcaded through my then-hometown of levittown, new jersey, and my dad lifted me up to reach out to jfk's outstretched hand. we connected. i know that for a fact. i was there. so if someone insists that jfk was never in new jersey, and truly believes that, and dismisses my memory as either deception or delusion on my part, should i say, well, maybe they're right? i know what i know! likewise, everyone knows he was shot and killed on november 22, 1963. so if someone says no, he wasn't, and gives some other date, or some other method of death, or says jfk is still alive, shall i admit they MIGHT have a point? if you argue with every known fact in the universe, you'll be pretty busy! sometimes, though, you didn't touch it with your hand or see it yourself on your tv. sometimes you have to use your experience, your prior knowledge, your logic, to figure out what and whom to believe. the new york times makes mistakes on occasion; it doesn't LIE. breitbart lies. it's lies have been busted again and again. so when you meet someone who cries "fake news" about the nyt and believes everything breitbart farts, is that partisanship influencing your opinion, or is it prior knowledge, logic, experience and just plain not being a moron?

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@WilliamFleming or here is another one, of a different sort. i see people declaring that no president has EVER been disrespected, bullied and picked on as much as trump is. now, people are entitled to their opinions, but i have SEEN videos of the rodeo clown dressed as obama being "raped," and pictures of obama lynchings in effigy, and michelle obama portrayed as a gorilla, and more. the worst i've seen regarding trump is that set of statues showing him with no balls and the big baby trump balloon in... was it england, france or both? anyway, that. so which is worse? a matter of opinion, but maybe most folks would agree that portraying someone lynched is worse than portraying someone as an infant or even ball-less, which, after all, is a comment, not an expressed intention (no one was threatening to castrate trump). if you add it all up, you can reasonably dispute the declaration. it's opinion based on a bit of amnesia.

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@genessa That’s a beautiful story about JFK and I’m sure it’s a special memory for you.

So far as old DT, I hardly know what to think of that guy. I keep telling myself that after all, he was elected and as a citizen, even though I didn’t vote for him he is still our president and just maybe all those voters who elected him knew what they were doing. It’s all subjective.

I was appalled at the way Republicans in Congress treated Obama. Obama was my man and still is. But two wrongs don’t make a right. Now the mainstream media seem to have lost their minds. I can’t bear to read the news anymore.

Anyway, that’s just my opinion.

@WilliamFleming but the voters did not elect him. the voters elected hillary clinton. the electoral college, which is skewed horribly (and that was, believe it or not, because of AIR CONDITIONING! long story, but it's true!) appointed him.

the media are not treating trump horribly. he deserves to be treated horribly but the media are only now starting to treat him fairly (in other words, with the treatment he deserves). they WERE more or less kissing his ass. it was literally years before they could bring themselves to use the word "lie." calling a lie a lie, calling a liar a liar, isn't wrong, so there is no second wrong here.

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Nothing that lends itself to a one word answer.

JimG Level 8 Jan 11, 2019
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Well, I exist - as do dogs (my own examples are archy and mehitabel - retired racing greyhounds). Energy exists. Abandon exists. I guess those I 'believe in', as there is evidence that they're there - but I don't believe in them as a 'higher power'.

Ooh Mr. Reon do you have doggie pics? I have to vicariously share dogs because I can't have one pout.

@Amisja I shall make a post with a pic of archy, bel and myself right away, Amisja!

@Amisja In fact, here it is! On the right (as you look) archy, on the left, bel.

@ToakReon awww they are adorable

@ToakReon those are lovely dogs!

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The scientific method.

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The perpetual motion of matter.

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I believe in cause and effect and the idea that morality is hard and being kind to others while also being kind to oneself is a high wire act. Hard is good easy is very often bad. I believe that action is better then words but words well used are the basis for positive sustained effective action. I believe the only truly sacred things are those that defy explanation and within that realm are better for the lack. I believe in loving everyone as the alternative is hate and the in between is lacking. I believe that fear IS the mind killer and moving through it is the only way. I believe in sarcasm and silly mocking humor. I believe we all secretly want to be adults when we are children and children when we are adults.

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I will extend it to three things, since I don't really strongly believe in any of those that are listed above. I have come to believe that rational thought is better than supernatural belief. That evidence based knowledge is better than faith based knowledge. And, finally, that being a kind person will result in having a better life than being an unkind person. So maybe that narrows down to "Knowledge"...I believe in seeking knowledge.

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I believe the jelly I've put in the fridge will set and that a blancmange I make later will go on top of it. That's about as deep as my belief system goes 🙂

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I don't believe in anything, I either know things or I don't know them, things are true or they are not true, currently possible or currently impossible. Occasionally I will trust in my judgement or assessment of the trustworthiness or motives of another, but that is as close to belief as I will admit to.
I can speculate as to potential truths and facts, I can envision progress.
As words Belief and Faith have become too corrupted to be of use to the rational mind.

@Salvz Nothing like dualism, not sure where you are getting that from.

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Energy is just a mathematical concept to simplify continuity equations XD.
In theory (and with 10X more pages, you can describe any physical phenomena without the energy simplification. (Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica from newton does this and it is a pain in the a**** to deal with)

What? There is no such thing as "continuity equations". Energy is not a mathematical concept, certainly not the implied definition you're using.

"Energy" in physics is just a scalar constant measuring the amount of physical work used. (Nothing more. No new age BS.) But it's not a fundamental concept in math.

@Buxx mathematical construct, my bad.
Energy itself cannot be measured, cannot be seen, produced etc. You produce voltage, light, momentum, speed. Energy as physical entity does not exist exactly, is just a constant in the system, a way to simplify the balances.
Of course this is a strict phylosophical view. For all practical purposes you can treat eneregy as as something "real". And not talking about new age energy at all.

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I know I am here

@irascible Had I have compiled the list, I would have added 'you'. I believe in your mm high text and know you are somewhere behind it. I like that

In the time it takes to say, I am here, I have moved (earth orbit, general hurling through space) and I have changed (metabolism) so I am not here, some former self was there.

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I base my beliefs primarily on my own life experience and define them with my own vocabulary. I am instantly skeptical of any source that tries to redefine our commonly observable reality.

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Nothing really

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I don't do belief.

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