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Trump was elected because he wasn't presidential - look at our past failures, Obama, Bush.. the people didn't want anyone like that!

gater Level 7 July 8, 2019

So you seem to be saying that those who voted for him wanted someone who had no knowledge of foreign policy, economics, or diplomacy, and who runs his administration by writing, saying or doing the first thing that comes to his mind and ignoring the people who actually know anything about the matter at hand... in other words, some moron who is just like them. Only with a nuclear button. Great....

President Obama won with 52.9% of the popular vote in 2008 and 51.1% in 2012. He led us out of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. By what standards are you calling that a "failure"?

Trump was elected by a quirk of the Electoral College. It cannot be repeated often enough that he LOST the popular vote.

@Paul4747 No knowledge? Trump is a genius, and he has brilliant advisors.
Your bias has blinded you to the truth.

@gater A Freudian would say you are projecting.

If Trump is so "brilliant", how is it that his performance as a businessman is substantially less (billions of dollars less) than if he had simply put the money his father gave him to start up into index funds and left it there?

How is it that he's gone into bankruptcy SIX (count'em, 6) times? Is this part of his "brilliance"; the ability to bilk his investors and debtors by declaring that it's a new game and if they want any money back, they have to play his way? That's not a sign of brilliance, it's a sign of inept management combined with pathological dishonesty and a refusal to accept the bills he runs up; just like the countless times he's refused to pay small businesses for doing the exact work he contracted for, then claimed he "wasn't happy" with the finished job. He simply takes advantage of his battalion of lawyers and the knowledge that the small businessman can't afford to drag it out in court the way he can.

Trump is a pathological liar (12 untrue things a day, over 10,000 and counting as of last month) and worships nothing but himself. At one time he was surrounded by brilliant advisers, but he refused to listen to them. Increasingly anyone of substance, to stay on in the administration, is reduced to the level of a yes-man (yes-person?). As soon as they contradict the Liar In Chief, it's curtains. One day he sings their praises as a loyal aide, the next (after they leave or are fired for telling the truth) they were "a very bad liar all along" and "an awful person". Case in point: Jeff Sessions, who was appointed solely to quash any Russia investigation. As soon as he recused himself, he went from the greatest Attorney General ever to the worst and weakest, in Trump's book.

It's no wonder Trump gets along with Putin so well. They have identical cults of personality. And you, sir, have obviously joined. I'm done with you.

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Trump never was presidential and can never be presidential. It's in his nature. The big thing that nobody addresses is that no president before Trump would be allowed to get away with even a third of what Trump does and gets away with. The big question is why is this happening and what can we do about it?

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