yep, totally agree! & me, i sooner have fun poked at me than wither away in the stifling late-summer-australia heat. i wouldn't demand of anyone to dress less though.

I am in favor of women having whatever gender equality they want and need. Some cultures standard is women's breasts uncovered. There is nothing inherently wrong with the practice. Changing one's culture is difficult. Good luck.

From a man's perspective, lack of gender equality frustrates me because male female friendships are difficult. But, I don't expect that will change.

@EdEarl, yes, i understand & share your frustration, being well aware that i can only push it so far. what makes it harder for me is that i grew up in germany, where people are less willing to follow a herd mentality (no surprise there, after the third reich disaster), & now i'm living in rather prudish australia