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Ok, this might get long, so buckle up!

I am a "woman of a certain age", or in blunt terms, I am in the drop of menopause, with all the assorted issues that brings.

My last relationship ended mostly because I stopped wanting to have sex. Bluntly said, sex hurt, and it just wasn't fun anymore. He couldn't deal.

So, the question...is sex the end all and be all of a relationship? Can a relationship survive without it?

Fornax 5 Mar 19
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That answer varies. I, for one, can not imagine a relationship without sex, a lot of it, with the most open expression of carnal desires. But that’s just me. My marriage ended after years without sex. I’m not down for that. Sex is very important to me, not just the orgasm, but the unrepressed expression of the beast that is human. And that is fine, just like it’s fine to be abstinent. But don’t expect me to be in a relationship that does not fulfill my needs. The sexualities of those in relationships together need to match somewhat.

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Talk to your doctor.

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No but I know people who continue to enjoy it well past menopause.

I would say "Lube" or Vitamin E capsules taken vaginally.

Past that I would suggest a visit to an OB/GYN.

Sex hurting is something to have checked.

Lube helped some, but honestly my libido became a libidon't. I just don't want it.

Lube is great!

@NothinnXpreVails My Mum told me about the old family Dr telling them about lube - (instead of Vaseline - gasp!) - how it would "Change their lives". lol

The people need to know!

@RavenCT: A different way to say, "I love you"?

@LucifersPen Laughing so hard!

@Fornax If you are ok with that? That's one thing.
If you miss it? That's another.

Also there is thinning of the vaginal mucosa with loss of estrogen and that can become quite painful - so whether you are interested or not - if there was pain? I'd see a Dr..

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I am 80, impotent, and sex is limited to snuggling and cuddling with perhaps a bit of oral play if it is mutual. Life is good.

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I think it can survive without sex but only if that suits you both.

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Umm....I'm curious. Are you just talking intercourse, or was every thing else off the table too? I always said I could be with a quadrapedgic as long as his tongue worked! No offence to the disabled, of course (if your tongue works, you aren't disabled!!).

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Just going to throw this in, but, did you try other types of sex? There's way more than one way to be intimate.

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Yes it can survive, but not as it was.
I have stayed and supported partners through this, only to have them call things quits because the relationship lost something. Still friends, still do things together support each other, but not as partners, not together, more like aged siblings.

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There are many other components to a healthy relationship than sex. I've stayed an entire year in a relationship that had no sex for various reasons, eventually outside things killed it though.

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Sex may not be the "end all and be all", but if he wants it, and she doesn't, he's going to get it elsewhere. So, the question is...can the relationship survive THAT?

If you don't want sex because you don't like it anymore, that's one thing. But if you DO want sex, but can't because it hurts, I recommend looking into ashwagandha. I was dating a menopausal woman, and she had "issues", and we tried ashwagandha. It worked for us.

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Yes, a loving relationship is very possib le without sex, especially when both are past middle age.

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Menopause is the worst thing while going through it as I am myself. I don't have a bf so can't help with the sex part. My drive has subsided but still get the urge sometimes, thank goodness for vibrators! Good luck to you and see a Dr. about the pain, my sis did and was happy she did. There is a med for it.

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Your body your rules but have you checked out female HRT? Just make sure you see a good endocrinologist. There are different versions of estrogen and progesterone to take but with regular check-ups and blood work it's safer than OTC NSAIDS. Having said that sex is not a requirement for a committed relationship but it IS important. What happened to you happened to my ex but it was not our only issue. All of it together along with the lack of sex caused the break up. Good luck and peace.

HRT is off the table for me due to a DVT episode almost 3 years ago. No hormones of any kind.

@Fornax Not sure about women but I have a DVT right now and the hematologist said male HRT is fine as long as I don't take it to supraphysiological levels. He did say I shouldn't take tamoxifen anymore though.

I was told by a hematologist, the vascular surgeon, and my primary care doctor, no hormones of any kind. Mind you the dvt was, in part, caused by birth control pills that I was taking for fibroids.

@Fornax So it probably won't work. The only other thing I can think of is what kind of estrogen was in your birth control? If it's Premarin (pregnant mare's urine derived estrogen) that's known for causing blood clots. There are better estrogens out there but a lot of doctors just assume Premarin is the estrogen to be used.

@Fornax, HRT is also bad when there's a family history of breast cancer. My mother has recurrent breast cancer, and we don't have a known mutation.

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Sex is nice and pleasurable; I think most would agree. I think that emotional connections, and enjoying ones company without need for physical contact, is more important in a relationship though

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Dissirregardlessness (< yes, i made that up) of sex, how did you feel about him? As most know, a woman's body sure has real changes when she's in the mood / real feelings of desire for her partner.

Ahh, now we get to, I think, the bigger issue. I always felt pressured to have sex, always felt like that was all he wanted me for, well that and a meal. We had been together 7 years, he only spent the night with me a total of about 30 times, in that 7 years. He would come over get sex, get a meal and then leave.

Sex is not the only expression of love, but my other ways of expressing love weren't good enough for him.

@Fornax Definitely more of a core issue. The way you've described it right here would make me feel like a prop rather than a partner. That can definitely kill libido. If the pain was the ONLY issue, but the relationship was great, that would definitely warrant a trip to the doctor. However, since the relationship does not sound like it was much of a relationship, it's possible that the libido and pain was exasperated by your thoughts and feelings about the whole ball of wax.

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Sex is very important, in my opinion - it shouldn't hurt, though. I'm sorry that yours hurt.

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I have survived without it, not by choice. lol

Sorry it hurt. I'm sure that you tried to find out what might be causing the pain?

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How important it is varies from one person to another. If intercourse hurts try other methods.

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My libido varies with my hormones. I'm perimenopausal as well. A lot of the time, I'm pretty indifferent about sex. And since I haven't had a relationship in a few years, I'm not really sure how it would feel to have sex now. I mostly don't think about it much. Lacking a boyfriend, it's something of an academic subject.

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Ok... it's called atrophic vaginitis...which is an oxymoron to me ..but, anyway, easy fix us topically applied vaginal hormone cream. Works like a dream. Or, sometimes you just need a very patient partner who will take numerous gentle tried with lube, advancing a tiny bit each time. Do not settle for not having sex. This is common but fixable

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Yes as some people enter into a relashionship knowing there won't be sex. men have got hands and porn si no it isnt that important in your case. your partner was obviously a selfish prick.

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My current sex partner was post menopausal when I met her and tells me that she has experienced more and more powerful orgasms in the first six months I knew her than she could remember in her life. I had a prostate infection a dozen years ago and can't mantain an erection for more than a minute. Is sex the be all and end all of relationships? Maybe for some it is. Maybe a change in circumstance can end a relationship. Or maybe it's just a test of your passion and creativity.

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A lack of sex in a relationship can also be seen as a form of rejection. My wife has had some health issues and has no libido for the last year or so. It makes me feel unwanted and rejected and adds to my own issues of depression. Sex bonds a couple and the absence of it all too often dissolves those bonds. That is extremely painful.

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Of course it can - if that's what all parties are content with.

Though I went through a "shut-down" phase myself years ago, now past it, I can say I'm pretty much as horny as I ever was , with all systems go ! Never took hormone replacement either ... Wouldn't wish to be in a relationship without any sex - though if there's no lover around, there's always "BOB".

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It shouldn't hurt.

Sex gets it out of the way.

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