Don't you think if the woman doesn't want the child...eight then and there there is a problem?
Nothing worse than to force a person into doing something he/she doesn't want to do.

No... the healthy child is not the problem. The child has a right to life. If there was rape, the hospital could of helped the female. If the women doesn't want child eight, then she should of thought about the consequences of her actions. She had a chance to take the pill or see a doctor. Don't put this off on the child. There's adoption agencies she can deliver the baby to.

You got a couple of months to decide on an abortion . Get it done then.

To give the child for adoption implys nine months of pregnancy and hours of delivery....two events many women don't wish to experience.

Why "science"?

The man doesn't suffer on his body all the changes / problems a woman does during nine months........neither risk his life...so he has not saying about this issue.

it wouldn't be the first man who "agrees" to have protected sex and, then, conveniently, finds out the condom was faulty...and he does so hoping his partner will be happy with becoming a mother..

Third, the biological father has to contribute monetarily

@DUCHESSA it's nice to just announce these proclamations but to have some basis for them would be nice. Let's start with your third one. The biological father has to contribute monetarily but he gets no say as to whether or not it gets born in the first place. Makes perfect sense to you right? The woman that had no idea while having sex that she might have a child right? And you believe that Man created the sexual production requiring women to do it so this is their penance right? So since the man can only get a child if a woman bears one, he has to keep having sex with women until he finds one willing to have a child, is that how it works? I understand you're just spewing the party line. How about we make it fair and if the man doesn't want the child and the woman does she's the one that contributes monetarily?

@lerlo Is the man responsibility to protect himself against getting a woman pregnant. The rest of your post is so full of sarcasm that it would be lowering oneself to answer / comment on your words. Bye.

while preventing the pregnancy is the ideal.......a fetus is not a child.

Where? In USA? I doubt.

@DUCHESSA in Indiana. When i got my tubes tied my husband had to sign saying it was ok

@pamelab1968 I would have divorced him...get the tubes tied and then marry him again...maybe. Is there also a law that ask the women to sign her OK when the guy wants to chop his ducts?

@Alvinsmama Whoever told you so should have faced malpractice.

@pamelab1968 Since when a man has any right over a woman? Since when a man decides how many kids a woman must have?

Dear, place your agenda where it belongs...in the drawer. OK? An embryo / a fetus....is not a baby. period.

""I think abortion is a sad thing for any women to go through.""""

Trust me, is not sad at all. When a woman decides to abort she knows exactly what she wants. The bull s...t the pro-lifers tell you about "sadness / guilt" is nothing but a technique they apply to prevent women from aborting. Once I knew a prolifer who was telling young girls "If you abort you will never be able to have a child. The pro-lifers take advantage of people's ignorance.

Guess what? Call me infanticide as much as you wish....Abortion is OK. read about Iceland on this issue.

If a woman becomes pregnant at the wrong time / she doesn't want to be a mother / her health is in danger...or the "baby" she carries is not normal and she wants to abort...is her right and privilege. No doctor / husband / boyfriend / friend / relative has any say on her decision.

The vast majority of abortions could be prevented. We actually can stop the sperm and egg coming together. Most of the reasons you have stated are where abortion began. Now the vast majority are just about the comfort of the parent. If human life is sacred, then this is wrong. The only way to get around it is to say that human life is not sacred. Then of course, infanticide is not wrong either.

@noseenobelieve Sure, prevention is the way to go. Makes no sense to risk the woman's life. Now, if the prevention methods fail and the woman doesn't want to be a mother there is nobody on this world that has the right to tell her no to abort..

@noseenobelieve Comfort? Do you have any idea what a grueling experience it is to have to make that decision? Women think about that unborn child for the rest of their lives. Not to mention the pain of the procedure itself. Unless you have a uterus, you have no opinion.

Why don't you preach in your church, entertain the half wits!

@DUCHESSA, @TheoryNumber3 This means that while people appeal to the outliers, convenience abortions are the most common.

@noseenobelieve Remember. What you describe as "convenience abortion" i do as "the right of a woman no to be imposed what she doesn't care / want / like / need...and I am not the only one who thinks this way.

When a woman is forced to deliver the kid she doesn't want.......trust me, the only one suffering is the child and for the rest of his/her life. I know it very well.

And who told you it is used as birth control? Only an idiot would do that.

I actually do know an idiot who has before. But shes an idiot so...::

Again, this is a lie and the numbers of women who use abortion as birth control are very low but way blown out of proportion by Pro-Lifers. Think about it, if a lot of women did get an abortion every time they got pregnant and didn’t bother with birth control there would be women walking around who’ve had 20 or 30 abortions. Abortions take a toll on a women’s body each and every procedure that’s done. Which makes it unlikely that there are just tons of women out there getting abortions once a year. More propaganda by the Lifers. But aside from all that, it’s still none of your business what another women chooses to do with her body. Period.

My body, my business!

@Stressmonster Indeed she is.

Never say never!

@zesty Okay, how about impossible?

@OtherPatrick It is easy for a guy to be judgemental.

@zesty How am I being judgemental? I’m not going to stop anyone from having an abortion nor do I believe it should be outlawed. I cannot have one due to being a guy, I would not want a person I was seeing to have one so I do everything I can to prevent it from happening. But, like my original statement, I’m not going to have one.

@OtherPatrick You are right!

I see the opposite. The religious right thinks that the unborn should be given every protection imaginable, but would not stoop to help the living. I like to say they believe in the scantily of life from conception up to the moment of birth.

Simply put the deity if he or she is out there refuses to talk to us in a clear and meaningful way. So playing God as you say is our lone purview. Yes I know about the Bible and all of the other holy books. All of which make so little coherent sense they are used for a rainbow of causes and justifications. For me personally playing god I would think is the point right? I mean if this god(God) is out father/mother then as a we adult until we become one? Fun stuff but until God shows up and says here I am then it falls to us wonderfully scary insane apes to do what it will not. Make our own way in a cold and hostile universe.

@Quarm Perhaps the best way to respond is to ask: What have you to offer regarding the big 4 questions: Origin, Morality, Meaning, Destiny. Any coherent belief system must have a clear answer to each of these issues to be worthy of following. If there is something better than God created, is worthy of worship, wrote the Law on our hearts, wants his creation to abide with him, I would be more than willing to study it. So far I have not found anything to supplant: In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God. Everything that was made was made through him.

Also, if one approaches scripture from the frame you have given, then it is easily dismissed. However, if one approaches the Bible from the viewpoint that it holds the truth to the 4 big issues, they will find answers there.

Fuck God!

Yes ... you should be allowed to have a say.

I personally agree, but before you have sex with a woman, know her well enough to ensure she willl consider your feelings.

that would be true providing she had a say in the sex itself. there are states where it is being proposed that a rapist may decide whether his victim may have an abortion. let's assume the following best-case scenario: a man and a woman have had consensual sex, they're still together, he wants her to have the baby and she doesn't want to have it. that's a tie. who casts the deciding vote? well, the man isn't the one who has to be pregnant for nine months and then give birth, possibly with a c-section. traditionally, he isn't the one who stays home with the resulting baby, either, perhaps sacrificing his career, or his peace of mind. he isn't the one who might suffer post-partum depression. so in this tie, who has the more abiding interest in the pregnancy?

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@PontifexMarximus I agree in cases were either the couple is in a dedicated relationship or if the sex is intended to produce a (surrogacy ect.). As for casual sex I do not think the man should have any say at all or even awareness of the unless the woman allows it. Ideally she would want to tell the man but in reality with all of the possible litigation ect. i understand why a woman may be better served to just have it aborted or raise it by herself as she wishes.

I never had one either ...

I never had one, but I believe it is my decision and no one has the right to tell me what i can and cannot so with my body.