No, I work for a health care company.

@Tinocca irony.

@KittensandSage yes. And I train communication and management skills, but I can’t get my boss to use those skills.

@Tinocca it’s ironic that the leader of a business of “caring” is so blind that he can only see his own mind as the only relevant source of input!!! Shallow and arrogant. Well, just protect yourself, and keep as away from this fool as you can. If it helps to know it, you are never alone in this. So many have to manage, and no big sky daddy in sight. Hugs.

@KittensandSage yes. Ironic and sad and frustrating.
Thanks for the hugs.

@MrBeelzeebubbles that's sound advice .
People should employ you because you were the better candidate for the job, not because of your religious or non-following.

@Mitch07102 and if the entire gang are all connected religious-wise and wish to judge you on your thoughts and not on job performance, or try to victimise you at work, and you resign because it becomes so unbearable to continue working in that environment, it could be seen as a technical dismissal for the labour court, if there's such in your state. You could sue for a settlement that will serve you well financially until you secure a job. That's what happens here.

@SilentRage the best actually. Avoid at all costs until you can secure a position in a free-er environment.

Thanks. He didn't change the name to Human Capital. We recently got acquired by a larger company and that's the term they use. I detest that name as well.

Whatever rules California has regarding at-will employment in no way negate the Civil Rights Act Title VII, which protects employees from religious discrimination in the workplace. But the burden of proof is not easy and therefore employees must be sure to document everything they experience.

@Shawno1972 That's the thing though. The "at-will" states are getting away with violating Title VII. Employers can afford to "out-litigate" most employees.
Even if/when they lose, they can file appeal after appeal. Most people can't afford to keep fighting.

Documenting everything is a very good idea, but even with all that, prevailing against most employers is still extremely difficult.

Getting out in front of these situations is sometimes the only way to "win".
Get the state involved before termination or hostilities begin.
Let the government take these religious morons to task.
They can afford to keep fighting, most regular people cannot.

That's why I didn't sue when I was fired from a job in Virginia. I knew the reason was because I was an atheist (my supervisor literally asked me why I abandoned my God), but didn't have any verifiable proof.

@kiramea There is far too much advantage afforded to employers.
Also another reason to advocate for the removal of ALL religious influences
on public policy.
They cannot be permitted to continue to get away with their bullshit.
Being an anti-theist is the ONLY thing that makes any sense to me.
No more "live and let live". They were given an inch, and they took
ten fucking miles.

@KKGator All true potential issues, but none of that negates my advice one iota.

@Shawno1972 I wasn't making any effort to "negate" your advice.

@KKGator Good. You put up a rather defeatist response, so I just want to make sure the signal to noise ratio attenuates toward usefulness. She may actually need to lean on the Civil Rights Act on this one someday.

@Shawno1972 There was nothing remotely "defeatist" about my response. It was 100% realistic.
The Civil Rights Act has been fairly effectively gutted by corporations and the republicans over the past few decades and doesn't protect people as much as it's supposed to.
So your "signal to noise ratio" was an exercise in futility and basically useless.

@KKGator My "signal to noise ratio" did precisely as intended despite your attempt to dismiss it, fortunately, but with one exception: apparently you didn't catch the signal. Armchair rally cries count as noise as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, I'm sure he knows. But his views toward me might be subtly impacted by his perspective.

@Tinocca Yes. So assume his views will be influenced, as you suggest. What he thinks is fine, but what he does (or doesn't do) is critical and that's why documentation is important.

I don’t have any social relationships outside the office. I see and interact with these folks in the work setting and not beyond that. Even the few office social events we’ve had, such as a holiday luncheon or dinner for the department, didn’t feel especially comfortable on my end. I don’t seek out social connections with them.

@Tinocca I don't participate at work when they have hand holding circle prayers during Thanksgiving and Christmas parties also.

@ZenLife are you serious or joking? Actual prayer circles? God, no. My work isn't that bad. I've seen a few individuals do their own private grace before eating. I'm fine with that. They don't make a deal out of it.

@Tinocca I was serious.

I’m a big fan of “his initials are..<full name>”. I do that frequently. Thanks for the chuckle.

As for the LAPD, that is unfortunate and more than a little scary to realize it is still so prevalent. Wow!

Oh, that sounds bad. My boss doesn't bring it up often, but I feel he has made it more comfortable for those with strong beliefs to express them more readily. And those without beliefs, like me, to feel more guarded than ever.

@Tinocca It's a shame this kind of stuff still goes on. My work once sent me to a diversity training seminar and the instructor said that when same sex couples cause harm in her community, she uses her christian morality to be at peace with it.

@RoboGraham that is terrible. I cringe when I hear things like that.

@RoboGraham