Try cannabis edibles.

@kellymkg I second that suggestion.

@kellymkg I actuallly use the topicals. It helps somewhat.

I agree with the comments try cannabis

@MyTVC15 Try Belbuca if you can. [belbuca.com]

None of those designer drugs worked for me and many gave me terrible side effects - this one did not and seems to help considerably. I can concentrate again.

I did Medical Marijuana and it did squat for my pain though it does snow you enough that you just don't much care? (If that's actually better than Opioids I'm not entirely sure how). The pain was still there - every single moment. 14 months of that hell.

@RavenCT Well, here is the thing, Belbuca is an opiate. No one is going to prescribe it to me. They would rather I have all the crazy side effects that the designer drugs cause.

@MyTVC15 It is and it isn't. It's a light class of opioid. Not a "real Opioid".

ie It's an opioid in the same way Ultram is one (when it first came on the market? No it wasn't).

Even Gabapentin is reclassified as a controlled substance of some sort now I believe (which is kind of nuts). But there you have it.

There is an all out war on pain patients - basically because one manufacturer went nuts over prescribing their drugs to so many that folks were rapidly addicted for little cause.

Long term chronic pain patients are now suffering an insane backlash. (Sit by me if you ever want to listen to me complain about the topic).
I'm so glad my Cancer occurred before the backlash. I wouldn't have survived that without some amazing pain management.

I know folks think Opioids are mind altering but don't get me started on what some of those "alternative drugs" do to the mind (and body).

@RavenCT I think that our experiences have been similar. The way I see it, if I am going to have this pain the rest of my life, who cares if I am addicted to the thing that gives me relief? I was taking Gabapentan by the fist full before I was switch to a MAJOR drug interaction of nortripiline and Cymbalta, but after I was was taking 3xs the recommended dose of Lyrica. It took all I could give to get the doc to give me a 6 month med canibis card and the closest pain clinic is not close.

@MyTVC15 Yup I went through Lyrica (didn't help) and Amitriptyline (Before I figured out which drug that was and just how bad a reaction I'd had in the past to it).
Gabapentin made me see shadows and I felt so "off"? It was terrible. (And so many people are on that drug. I sure hope it doesn't alter them - the way it did me!
The Injections were hideous.
I'm not saying these don't help some folks? But for me they were a dead end and a terrible time of incredibly raised pain levels and not much else.

I'm glad this drug is working for now.

I honestly don't want to make drugs - sell drugs - or put illegal drugs into my body. I just want adequate pain relief so I have some quality of life and also to not be treated like a criminal when I suggest that to a Doctor.

I'm horrified by how people in pain are now treated. I've seen people sent home from surgery without adequate pain measures - "Take Advil!". Sure. I'd like to cut those surgeons open rearrange whatever and send THEM home with Advil. lol
Yes it shouldn't be weeks of endless supplies of drugs for those patients -but there also should be committed care to not punishing patients.

(End of soapbox).

If you ever need to talk - PM me. One of the reasons I speak openly on this topic is folks need support.

Also I belong to a great atheist support group for folks with Chronic Illness on FB - I'll send you the link. It's a relief to not be prayed at. lol

The gas is great.

I would try the gas. I hate novacaine. I always ask my dentist how much it would hurt without. If she said not too bad, I deal with the pain. One time I wished I'd have let her numb me, it hurt a lot. I do hate numbness.

I had an uncle who lost his license for a bit because somebody walked in on him sitting back in his chair with the mask on!

@barjoe I hate the novacaine effect too. It can't wear off fast enough.

@Lightupmylife Yeah I've thought that if you passed out with the mask on it could kill you. But the stuff feels good, so I get it!

@Lightupmylife I've now very overdue for what I fear is a terrible dental experience. I have several big holes starting on the sides of teeth, I've never had cavities except on the tops of teeth. But Covid stopped me from pursuing it a few months ago, and still is. And being American, living in a pre-civilization, my medical care doesn't cover it.

Its scary, I'd never thought about it before. I'm 50 and have been fine tooth-wise, and I'm realizing that if I were to lose any front, visible, teeth? My life is essentially over, socially and professionally it just wouldn't work anymore - in a rural area the association with rednecks and poverty is too high with people, even if subconscious.

So . . . dental stuff is a stress point right now!

@Observer-Effect If you would loose a front tooth you can get an implant, but probably expensive.

I’m sorry to hear that...it is a terrible problem,

@K9Kohle789 somebody from work.

I was given oxycodone after a hernia surgery. I took one and then 6 hours later took another. Wondered if it was really necessary and waited until the pain that I was told would appear did so. I understand how easy it is to get addicted to some drug and won't take anything unless absolutely necessary. It wasn't so no pills. Far too many want to take a pill instead of making lifestyle changes and we should not be surprised at an increase in addiction.

I've heard this about opioids, the longer you're on them, the more you need to take to get the same effect. I can see where that could be come a big problem. I'll take the one bottle I was prescribed then walk away.

I only have a bottle of 12 pills (11 now) and no refills. I'll take them and then I'm done.

You might try hypnotherapy with a clinical psych to helpwith the migraines. It may not eliminate them but it will definitely reduce the frequency.

@Cyklone I will keep that in mind. We did hit a combination of meds that manage things fairly well, except for the occasional subpotent lot of pills I get from the pharmacy.

@Zster A friend was getting several a week and had to quit work because of them. After seeing a psychologist for hypnotherapy he gets maybe one a month.

@Cyklone Cool! At the rate contaminants are popping up in tablets, I could yet need to try it. Thanks!

Have you tried CBD oil? I rub some on the back of my neck, temples and the webbing between my thumb and fore finger. Now I only a get a migraine around late summer every couple of years and for best results needs to be applied when the visual stuff starts before the actual pain.

@silverotter11 Will add that possibility to the list, thanks!

I'm in no danger but it's interesting to experience it.

@luckytobealive
I take a prescription potassium supplement called Urocet K and I take Allopurinol. 5 years free of a stone that had to be removed. I still get tiny ones but no more 11mm monsters

I too tried lots of stuff as a youngster but cocaine did nothing for me. Never did try heroin and as I discovered when I had a kidney stone and they gave me morphine it is a good thing the crowd I hung out with never even thought of trying heroin.

@silverotter11 I had the attitude of I'll try anything once except injectables. I didn't see it worth the effort to get a high by injecting a substance.

@kiramea EXactly. BTW you can snort it and get pretty addicted. My sister's step son used heroin that way. I think they did 2 rehabs for him. Don't know if it took, she's a bible thumper and gop supporter (tho she is questioning trump's ability to lead) so we don't talk much .

I've read about kratom. You can buy it in the quick pics around here.

@freeofgod yeh, that is the expensivest way...used to be cheap, but it has now been like "discovered" so it's unfortunately approaching $5 a dose. Good way to find out out if it is right for you tho i guess but seek online sources for the best deal

@freeofgod [mytreesoflife.com]

grow your own maybe, or a kilo of kratom for $115 whatever? awesome deal

[mytreesoflife.com]
almost too good to be true, compared to your two doses for $10 at the quiki mart, which is btw basically what i have been doing myself lol

Thanks for sharing.

im curious what your major source of omega3 is? ty

@bbyrd009 I eat a lot of salmon and also take supplements.

@RiverRick it seems we are directed into the animal there, fwiw i would suggest vegetable sources, my "hiatal hernia" seems to be slowly healing itself! and best of luck to you. You taking glucosamine/chondroitin/msm too? But pArthritis is just a bitch, ya, my gma had it, and she did everything right seems like

Sounds very similar.

Perhaps one fear we should all harbor is fear of addiction. Taking any drug can and often does bring addiction.

Those damned kidney stones are worse than childbirth. I laid in a hospital bed for 72 hours trying to pass three of them before. Just wished I would die.

I think that's a fair comment. There are some things the human body experiences that unless you've been through it yourself you really have no idea.

If a woman said that about childbirth would you feel as incredulous? Would you forgive anyone who's never taken psychedelics for not getting what the fuss is about?

But I don't think he was saying he didn't believe it was a problem, or that anything could be so seductively addictive, just that he gets it on a personally level.

@prometheus all I know is that I don't have to kiss Trump's ass to understand that republitards are spineless eunuchs.

Yes, until I actually tried it and experienced it myself, my understanding was only academic. I understood the issue but now I see the attraction.

@Mofo1953 No, I wouldn't let you fuck me in the ass because I'm not gay BUT if I were and I understood that getting fucked in the ass was a thing I might like, I would actually have to try it to see if I truly liked it or if I decided it wasn't for me. Academic knowledge of a thing isn't genuine experience of a thing.

Understanding isn't experience. Don't know how much more clear I can be.

@Sgt_Spanky clear as mud.

@Mofo1953 the way they slither around is a dead give away

BTW, it was a bike accident too.