I understand that Trump is a kinda Bible thumper. I think in order to be elected president, a candidate has to appear to be a Christian. (Obama beat that idea). However, I already know that most agnostics would not vote for Trump. What is the reason? Is it because he supports police? Or because he tries to enforce immigration laws of this country? The reason must be that he seems to have diarrhea of the mouth.
Ha! Trump a Bible Thumper. Funny. Not a religious bone in his grifter shyster sociopathic body. Congrats. You get my vote for the silliest post this week.
Are you a troll or just trying to be "different"?
Apparently you are not current with the news. Name something and he has fucked it up.
What do you mean that Obama beat that idea?
Perhaps the poster believes Obama was a Muslim Kenyan atheist communist, you know as some people do.
I don't know what religion Obama is, or even if he has a religion. However, I would bet that deep inside, he doesn't believe in Jesus. Actually, at best he is agnostic.
@David1955 I don't know what he believes about religion or non-religion. Does anybody? Show me some evidence. He definitely is not a Christian. He might be a Muslim. However, my bet is that he is a Unitarian Universalist, which basically means that he has no idea if there is a God or not but let's try to believe in something and make the best of it.
@Grecio what he is, is, an intelligent, articulate and highly capable man, in stark contrast to the blabbering grifter liar traitor and nitwit who currently resides in the white house. Was Obama a perfect President? No. But attacking him because you don't think he was a "real" Christian --- whatever that means anyway-- and on this site, is just plain dumb.
@David1955 I am not attacking President Obama. I think he did a pretty good job as president. However, I would like to hear him say as to what religion he is if there is any. Of course, I don't care about his answer. Just5 curious. But you would have to ask, would you get the truth from him? Politics is the answer.
@Grecio Obama's religious views: [en.wikipedia.org] .
@bingst Well said. I guess most Christians would want Muslims to be entitled to believe whatever they want. Actually I have met many Christians in the USA that do not believe in the separation of church and state. I guess, there is a large percentage of the world that does not believe in the separation of church and state. I never thought of that.
@Grecio Trump wasn't elected. Your corrupt electoral system and 18th Century Electoral College system resulted in his election. If the US is going to preach to other countries about 'democracy', and invade them on the pretext of 'bringing freedom and democracy, which it does all the frigging time, then it ought to make a half decent attempt to practise democracy sometime.
@bingst What I read on Wikipedia does not convince me that he is a Christian. The problem is, in the USA a person cannot be elected president unless he/she does not profess to be a Christian. 75-80% of voters in the USA are Christians. I don't expect a politician to tell the truth anyway.
We cannot always assume that just because a person says they are a Christian, then they really are.
Francis Collins, the father of mapping the Human Genome at MIT, claims to be a Christian. It is hard for me personally, to believe that with all the science he knows that he would believe in a myth. he even wrote a book about his experience while becoming a Christian. About half of all the modern scientists claim to be Christians, as compared to the normal civilians in the USA.
Obama, to me, favored the Islamic religions. He could do that as a Christian. He seems to believe in "one world order" which again is not totally unreasonable. However, most Muslims do not believe in separation of church and state. This idea does not fit with the constitution of the USA. I have recently come to realize that many Christians in the USA also do not believe in the separation of church and state. They want the country to be run by Christian pastors and clergymen.
@bingst, @David1955 Trump promotes all this Christian and prayer crap. What does Biden profess to be? The worst one is Pence who claims that God talks to him. What about Hillary, or Pelosi? There are professed Atheists in congress I think. I wonder how they won the election? We have at least 3 Muslims in congress. Do you think an atheist could ever be elected president of the USA?
London, England is 80% Muslim. Their mayor is a Muslim. Go figure.
@David1955 Well said. I go to church with my wife every Sunday. However, I hate going, I am not a member and I am an agnostic. In Southern Georgia (USA) I mostly keep quiet, but if I am asked I tell them that I am agnostic. Fortunately, I am retired and don't have to worry about Christians not liking me.