When I find that I am in the presence of such people I leave, or if the group is large enough I just place myself in a different place. Life is to short to put up with bullshit and with the way things are the fuse is really short.

Very delusional be careful

Living here in Bibletown Central, I don't usually get too worked up when people start inflicting their beliefs. My usual response is "I don't believe you." or "I don't believe that." If they continue being pushy, I suggest they either prove what they claim is true, introduce a new topic, or just shut the hell up.

"I brazenly finished every scripture he quoted. I then follow them up with scriptures that said the opposite" Many scriptures are supposed to pose a paradox because the meaning often isn't meant to lie solely on the surface.

"I asked him if his god did not exist would he want to know. He refused to say he would." Your question if crude may have served a good purpose. Some such people make a god of their role. If so I hope he is edging back from that.

You don't have to turn him into the same flavour of "atheistic agnostic" that you are and some elements in your argumentation will have had less force than others. The rot comes from within churches which have a drastically unbalanced view of what ministry really is for. Its proper purpose is not to stop you being whatever kind of agnostic you want. As I see it in what ought to be their proper terms, they have to get their stuff right, for them, and most churches don't.

Thank you for doing the hard work that, frankly, many of us are incapable of or unwilling to do.
I don't have the depth of knowledge to finish bible quotes, but I ask questions that focus on the general morality. Basically I let them know that I think they are immoral and promoting evil. The conversation usually dries up at that point. I don't get angry, I basically express my dissapointment in them, and urge them to change their evil ways. Not sure if it works...

I applaud your bringing to light the truth as you know it. It may make a difference and it make not, until years have passed and then...it may never ‘take!’ Because I have lost people I considered dear, over just this kind of revelation! And they never came back and it is 25 yrs now! Some religious types have their faith written in stone and no matter how deeply they may care for you...these people will drop you like a hot potato and never look back! Maybe, we leave them to their own devises? Somehow, I feel that no one should be forced into something that goes against his/her ‘grain!’ I know I can’t do it!

Your Christian friend doesn't know Jesus is Angelic lord of host Lucifer the devil. You do not know how to properly dispute an uneducated or wrongly educated Christian. I do not have to bring this Jesus to you in person. The biblical scriptures gives testimony of this.

Referring to the old testiment writings as Jesus character is quoted to of said: John 5:39 (A)You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and ( B) it is they that bear witness about me,

So, both of you are wrong.

Did he start the religous talk? If he did then what happens after that he has to wear.
I am a vegetarian but don't make a huge deal out of it. Was at a buffet and selected my food went and sat down. Someone else sat down and asked me why I did not have any of the meat dishes, I replied I don't eat meat. When they asked why I said that I could not kill an animal.
They then started on me about how if people did not eat meat then the world would be overrun by animals and I had better not stop them from eating meat. I looked at them and asked them why they felt so threatened by me and my choices, to which of course they replied they were not.
I then relayed the entire incident for them pointing out I had not commented on their food choice they commented on mine. I gave a reply that made it clear I was the person not eating it I did not say the eating meat was evil or they should not but that I did not, where upon they got defensive about my choice. That speaks to guilt.
They were livid and tried to tell me they were not threatened so I smiled sweetly at them and turned to talk to someone else about something else. For the next ten minutes all I could hear was them telling everyone else at the table that they were not threatened by me. When I had finished eating I got up looked at them, smiled as I headed off.
They avoided me for the rest of the weekend. If I walked into a room they left it. They also told people that I had no right to tell people that animals are killed for meat. If the adults had not figured it out then I felt really sorry for them.

"I brazenly finished every scripture he quoted. I then follow them up with scriptures that said the opposite"

Many scriptures are supposed to pose a paradox because the meaning is not supposed to be on the surface.

"I asked him if his god did not exist would he want to know. He refused to say he would."

Your question, if a bit crude, may have served a purpose. Some of those types make a god of their own role. I hope he is edging back from that oi

I've seen all the sides of all the fences. Is he Bethelated? Did his wife tug his sleeve after and say "you shouldn't have bragged about that dear"?

That guy should have known he shouldn't have brought that up like that. If he had really raised someone, but had a good attitude, he would be humbled and go running to someone with true expertise and insight into that stuff for mentoring. You already had a feeling about his attitude. He's "trying to prove something". When I was about 60 a guy of 69 was like that with me (in attitude).

My guess is he'll think twice before bragging or insinuating, hence you've done good on balance. Within the terms of their own system (if he had got it right) it's the attitude that counts, "miracles" have a different meaning or purpose and it's not to "impress". It's likely patients suddenly improve dramatically from a most grave condition and of course he should be struck by it if he was in proximity, but not let it go to his head. If you had asked after the patient, he could just say the patient had dramatically improved. You mix with these types and have always been prepared to appreciate what they do for the vets, overall. You know this bloke "ministers" and you'd have been glad enough.

If this wasn't a spelling test then I'd suggest :

girlfriend resurrected audacity whether unconsciously seminary impossible truly

If his God does exist, would you want to know?