So He's in West Virginia. It's 65% Republican state and he gets re-elected there. He usually votes with the democrats and I'm glad he's the senator rather than another Republican.. He is a Democrat, and in order for him to survive he has to acquiesce to the GOP on certain things. This vengeful hypocrisy with his daughter is a different matter entirely.

@barjoe What's the point in him Voting Democrat when he won't vote to undo the 60 seat majority needed to get anything done in the Senate.
What the point in Democracy when the balance of power is held by the smaller party. How does anything get done.

@dermot235 It's a very fragile majority. The Republicans could regain Senate in 2 years, then the democrats wouldn't be able to filibuster. This is the system we have in the United States. There's two sides to every story.

@barjoe It not a majority at all. Joe Manchin gets to decide everything

This is the very definition of "conflict of interest". An ethical person would abstain from the vote. Joe's gotta go!

@LovinLarge Would you rather have a Republican Senator? I just think this is the rail he doesn't like her.

@barjoe He is as close to a Republican as a Democrat can get. We will defeat him with a progressive candidate in the next primary.

@LovinLarge Why? So that candidate can lose badly to a Republican? You say we? You live in Colorado. The people of WV chose him over Republican candidate in elections where the rest of the state went 70% GOP. There can be room for moderates in the party. He's a Democrat who's won statewide when the rest of the slate went solid Republican. I don't agree with him on this issue. He's a whole lot better than every Republican in the Senate.

@barjoe If one existed, I would choose a Republican with integrity over a Democrat without. Joe has proven himself decisively without on this issue. With a personal stake in the matter, it is his ethical duty to abstain.

@LovinLarge "If one existed" I am happy to have Joe Manchin in the Senate as opposed to every Republican Senator. He is part of the 50-50 Senate. I don't like that he had a conflict on Neera Tanden. I am conservative on some issues myself. I don't think every Democrat has to be lock step with the left. Joe Biden is moderate Democrat. He's the only candidate who could've beaten Trump. Trump knew this, that's why they contrived that nonsense on Hunter Biden. Joe was the candidate they were afraid of. Bernie Sanders would've gotten crushed.

@barjoe Your last four sentences are conjecture.

@LovinLarge The last sentence is conjecture. I'm pretty sure about the first three, but everything is conjecture if you think about it.

@barjoe Nope, facts aren't conjecture. Everything you can't prove, like your last four sentences, is conjecture. And conjecture is valid as opinion and makes for good conversation, but should never be confused with fact.

@LovinLarge "pretty sure" means it's not a fact, it's an opinion. People get mad at me when I say Bernie would've lost. If he had been the candidate 2016, I think he would've won.