LINK James Huntsman sues LDS Church, seeks to recover millions in tithing
Be sure to read the comments following this article. Regardless of the merits of the suit, it's reassuring that most people get the fraudulent and predatory nature of the church. It's surprising how few Mo's do.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Article is behind a pay wall, the SLT used to be free until the Moron Church bought it.
Suing the church for the return of tithing has been tried before, never successfully.
However, the Huntsman family were really high up in the LDS hierarchy and were the front for the church's fleet of jets, claiming to "Loan" the planes to the church, for tax right offs.
I need to look in to this falling out more deeply.
more here [dailymail.co.uk]
[deseret.com]
LenHazell53
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Mar 24, 2021
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Huh, it was free to me. Sorry about that. I usually use up my free articles with NYT, WaPo, and The New Yorker. Sometimes it's because I link to an article directly, but if I go to a site and search for the piece there, it'll open for me.
@WilliamCharles maybe it's just in the UK. But I found other sites with the same story. 
I suspect that the Deseret link doesn't do comments for a reason. TCOJCOLDS is big on controlling the narrative. It's why I was glad to see the comment section for the SLT piece.
As an aside, I just recently saw the Netflix docudrama on the "Mormon Murders" (the Salamander Letter forgeries). It's a somewhat disturbing look at the indoctrinated and insular community there.
@WilliamCharles The Church has never been able to live down the Mark Hoffman scandal, so they lie about it.
Its especially embarrassing that the two elders who bought the forgeries off the Hoff, both went on to be prophet. Before they died Hinckley and Monson both claimed they only bought the them to supress them because they new they were forgeries, but at the time however many million $ it was, was a lot to knowingly pay a crook, but not a lot to supress the truth of what they knew, that being that Ol' profit Joseph's Myth , sorry the Prophet Joseph Smith was a con man and fake psychic, who would say anything for a fast buck.
@LenHazell53 - your assessment is spot on. Hoffman stated that he felt that the troubling and embarrassing nature of the forged documents would boost their price.
Cons con and believers believe, believers are already in the disadvantage. Believers keep the cons in power because they believe the con.
It is the cycle of life for the believer. Stupid, fearful, idiots that they are.
nogod4me
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Mar 24, 2021
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I'd like to think that there's more to irrationalist people than being stupid, fearful, idiots. Sometimes these SFIs make it difficult to think otherwise.
Often people are so desperate for a sense of community and belonging that they'll give a whole lot of nonsense a pass.
The LDS is predatory, they sucked me in when I was at my lowest point ever, took me years to get out and yes I was a fear filled stupid idiot, but what was worse was that suckered in others, a lot of others.
I've never forgiven myself for that, and for many years after leaving, I worked just as hard to get people out of religion, to (for want of a better word) atone.
@LenHazell53 - for me, kinda like that gnawing feeling when I was trying to make it being involved with an MLM. You hope they're on the level, but eventually learn the truth.
@WilliamCharles There are a few reasons people will sacrifice themselves for belief, I've explained some of the reasons in these posts that I have written:
"Humankind has evolved to the point that they are conscious of their own mortality."/
@nogod4me - those look interesting. Will check them out.
@LenHazell53 There are a few reasons people will sacrifice themselves for belief, I've explained some of the reasons in these posts that I have written:
""Take man's most fantastic invention - God."/
And: "Humankind has evolved to the point that they are conscious of their own mortality."/
Unsurprising to me. Religious believers are a willingly deluded bunch. This is why I favor China's approach to religion. Screw 'em.
rainmanjr
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Mar 24, 2021
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@WilliamCharles @rainmanjr Huntsman snr die about two years ago, he was a church seventy and poured literally million thought the LDS church for one reason or another. Now he has gone it seems at least of of his sons has turned on the the TSCC with a vengeance.
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