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LINK One Way We Can Know That God Exists

When Catholicism and Cosmology meet... a farce.

Honestly you'd think they would come up with a better argument than the universe exists for a purpose (assumption) and must have a creator (assumption) and that must be God ( unproven assumption, and which god anyway?).

So, god exists for a purpose, therefore god had to be created, and therefore god had a creator, presumably bigger than it. What? Doesn't that follow?

You think these dudes ever read anything on cosmology or quantum mechanics or similar, even for a popular audience? I imagine not. No wonder they hate science.

David1955 8 Nov 30
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Actually the supposed dispute with science is just, in many ways, a smoke screen. When they are talking about a creator god, who existed before or outside the universe, they are talking about something beyond science, since science does not claim, (Science being basically, just honesty organized.) to know anything about the, possibly, none existent, realms beyond the universe, or have anything to do with them.

The trick therefore, that they are using, is the old magicians ploy of misdirection. By pretending that science has something to say about that realm beyond the universe, and pretending to disagree with it. They redirect the gaze of the gullible, away from the completely unsupported assumptions they are making about things beyond the known universe, into the phony dispute with science, about big bangs etc. Thereby getting all their wild, evidence free assumptions overlooked.

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That the author of that piece espouses the kalam cosmological argument shows that he incapable of rational thought.

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The invisible man

@David1955 That sums it well.

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Both of the premises are unfounded: 1) Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
2) The universe began to exist. #1 is wrong because we know that particles pop in and out of existence all the time. #2 is unknown. We assume the Big Bang happened, but how much less why is utterly unknown and can only be guessed at. The Big Bang could have popped into existence the same way that virtual particles do, completely uncaused. We'll never know. What we do know is that the God of the Bible shows no interest in the subtleties of the Universe, discloses none of them, and is utterly wretched when it comes to moral values.

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It's simply that they believe it so it must be so.

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