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Anyone else notice that most born again Christians are former drug addicts?

jwm03h 6 Dec 3
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I've noticed that the people that play the "I'm a Christian!" card get more generousity when they beg for change or for food. It's quite manipulative.

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Or alcoholics. My first husband was heavy with drugs before I met him and belonged to SDS before he flunked out of Northeastern in 1969. When I met him in 1975 he was a heavy drinker. His parents lived in a small NH town. Their entire life revolved around their Congregational Church. The minister came for dinner on Sunday-I personally did not like him because he was a bigoted southerner originally from Alabama? Any rate my husband was not religious in the least. Not until I left him after AA, Alanon and ACA. His parents rescued him literally as he was getting evicted and he eventually met a Holy Roller from some other church who spirited him off to Florida where my daughter saw him become a born again Christian.

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Most of born again Christians I know never used drugs. Well, 80% of them never did. And only 20% did use.

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Whoa! I never noticed that. I did notice how the majority had shame and sorry and needed help and needed forgiveness. I was that person at one time in my life. Even an addict. It took time and reason and study to understand things. I'm here now. I figured it out for me.

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Yes ,and alcoholics too!A.A is a religious organization. The claim is that a 'higher power' is what God means to you, but there must always be a god. if your recovery is possible , then all praise goes to this God.

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I have noticed a lot of old friends who got too heavily into drugs/drink etc turned to religion and it did save them mentally. I even wished I could have that bolt hole and could believe to escape my drink and drug-fueled insanity but I just couldn't so ended up sectioned and locked away for about a month.

I have nothing to hide and love this site so it's all good

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As a former addict, 2 years sober, much of it has to do with two things in my opinion. Conventional treatment typically involves a lot of various 12 step meetings that are inclusive of utilizing some type of a higher power. Additionally research has found recently that religion and its experiences can trigger similar parts of the brain that drugs do such as the hypothalamus. Some folks can literally get a rush from that, extreme sports and even music. Sadly take a trip to any 12 step meeting and everyone is still slamming the caffeine and puffing away at cigarettes. Conventional treatment methods are crap and at best religion just replaces the drug.

@altruisticwar my roommate claims that there is no emotional / psychological reason for his alcoholism. I have a tendency to disagree. what are your thoughts?

Man. I don't know. I've been going for awhile. I speak a different point of view. If praying to the moon helps somebody from this disease then I say go for it. I've sponsored quite a few persons. Sick people want help. Getting someone back on their feet and being a better person is what its all about. And to the guy that wrote this post. Man!

@irascible hmm what worked best for me was going to 2 SMART recovery meetings(highly recommend by the way) and changing those People, Places and Things. I guess I was fortunate enough to land a job shortly after as a prototype car driver for Toyota. It was a job I really invested a lot of time into and didn't want to mess up by failing some drug test. I made a few friends along the way at my second job and most of them were positive to be around. For me I think those were the biggest factors. Mind you I go to a bar or party a few times a year and have no issue with a few alcoholic drinks but I am aware that's something not everyone can do. It seems a person's life as a whole plays a big part in keeping someone in a certain mental state that traps them.

@Kojacksmom I think everyone falls into addiction for countless reasons, some more dependent on the substance and others yearning for an escape from a situation; maybe something between. I guess that's why addiction is still pretty well misunderstood too. For me? I fell into a really depressive rut when the economy buckled going from $36 an hour with almost 40k saved and so on down to nearly homeless sleeping on a couch. My wife wasn't really empathetic and I had no friends to fall back on... One car accident shortly thereafter and I found myself hooked on my meds before you know it. Needless to say for me there was mental and physical suffering and perhaps even masked issues from my childhood too. Of course I think every drug is addictive in different ways too. Hence the whole topic is quite broad but another specialist to check out...

@BucketlistBob By all means I would rather see folks get sober and if the conventional 12 steps and or religion helps, go for it! 🙂 Unfortunately the recovery rate is under 10% currently and usually requires many trips in and out of rehab before the success rate becomes more meaningful. SMART recovery touts somewhat better numbers but it hasn't been around nearly as long as AA to really see if it's a much better program, yet.

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As far as I can tell; everyone with serious problems in life has religion in common.

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I think it works better during their parole hearings…

Varn Level 8 Dec 4, 2017
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While I can hardly believe that most are former drug addicts, the few I know all have kids that are. That's certainly not a scientific sample and I wouldn't draw conclusions from it.

gearl Level 8 Dec 4, 2017
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Let's put this another way, shall we? I know from experience that many born again evangelicals come from broken lives of one form or another. I also know from the same experience that most of the evangelicals I know do not fit into that category. Childhood indoctrination, yes. Charismatic leader pulled them in, yes. Out of loneliness or lack to a social network, yes.

I live in the most religious town of the 18th most religious state in the US, and the majority of the denominations here identify as born again and evangelical, so I have more than enough chance to engage with them. Some of them are indeed struggling ex drug addicts, some are ex alcoholics, but certainly not most.

Now, I don't know what your experience is or what size sample you're talking about, so I can't say you are wrong, but I do suggest that you be a bit more careful in choosing your wording so as not to make sweeping generalizations that may not be defensible.

My experience in this town is over a period of twenty years and the sample I have to work with is about 30,000 + people. All I can say is that a small number (some) of them match what you describe.

Thank you, ma'am.

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Replacing one crutch with another, hard to judge which is more harmful to them. I have also noticed that a lot of former drug pusher become born again, too.

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