GreenAtheist—— I agree with you that my list is short and progressives have fell short in many areas and were complicit in the genocide of native Americans , but as opposed to bigots and conservatives they have tried to forward the cause of human rights in America in context with the era in which it occurred.

FDR said it best and I will paraphrase----" a conservative is someone with two perfectly good legs ,who has never taken a step forward in their lives "
conservatives have been on the wrong side of American history since our fight for independence
1.Progressives wanted American freedom from England--conservatives ( Tories)wanted the status quo and remain
under England's harsh thumb
2. progressives wanted to end slavery---conservatives wanted the status quo
3. progressives fought for a woman's right to vote-- conservatives were against giving women that right
4. progressive fought to end child labor-- conservatives were just fine with it
5. progressives gave us unions which created the middle class in this country-- conservatives have always been
for big business.
6. progressives gave us social security providing a safety net for millions of Americans--conservative were against it calling it a communist plot
7. progressives gave us civil rights legislation-- of course the conservatives and bigots (maybe one and the same)
were vehemently opposed to it
8. progressives gave us Medicare lifting millions of seniors out of poverty--- conservatives called it another
communist plot and of course were against it
9.Progressives fought for Roe v Wade a womans right to choose and safe abortion-- not done by back alley
butchers but conservative men want to continue to control a woman's body and are trying hard to take away
women's rights.
10. progressives have and are currently fighting for LGBT rights because every person should have the right to life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness---- conservatives ( evangelical Christians are on the front lines against
equal rights for all people) again oppose this basic concept written in our Declaration of Independence
11. to sum up the right wing conservatives of today --they would like America to return to the Dark Ages when the
church(Christianity) ruled the world and anyone that does not fall into their narrow definition of what a white Christian is in this country is a second class citizen.
GO AHEAD AND PROVE ME WRONG

Classical Liberalism is embodied in the US constitution. Neo-liberalism is a set ECONOMIC lazy-fare ideas. These two ideas are NOT related..

From a distanc (NZ) it appears your country has had a massive failure in education. Noone seems to have an understanding of civics. Consequently the divide of public good and the role of government to supply basic needs. Many of you miss the fact that Fire,Police amd medicade are socialist concepts

I find that as long as you can back up what you believe with facts there is nothing to fear from the conservative right. Their arguements will breakdown and turn to name calling. Especially if their arguements are those of the right wing media. But you have to know that like Christians those who believe in conservative propaganda do not let reason nor logic sway them from their entrenched views.

I write a political column for a local paper and do not hide my progressive leanings. I have threee people who respond to me regularly in an attempt to anger me. I take it as a badge of freedom that we can discuss political views openly and in the public theater.

On these pages (and others on Agnostic and FB) the trolls seem to come out in droves. I ignore most because their arguement make no sense. for those who can put together a cohesive discussion, I will "talk" with them as long as it is civil.

Sorry so many fascists are down under....we are very hopeful here in USA www.howiehawkins.us peace through Green jobs

Fuck these Right Wing Nut Jobs to Hell and back .

We have both neoliberals and right wingers here. You’ll learn soon enough.

just stick around. You are going to get a lot of it.