There is actually what is being described as an epidemic of suicide among Mormons in Utah at the moment, it made the front page of the Salt Lake Tribune last week, the church of course is blaming on the influx of Non Mormons in to Utah and their upsetting and unholy disruptive influence confusing the sheep, sorry flock.

@LenHazell53 , there was a program (on hbo I believe) that was about the increase in suicides. They thought the majority of suicides were gay or trans mormons.

@freeofgod In November two years ago the first presidency of the church release a proclamation that if you are the child of a married or cohabiting gay couple, you can no longer undergo baptism at the age of eight as every other child can, even with parental permission. Children of gay people, even if they are not homosexual in and of themselves, can only become church members if

1. they are 18 or over
2. they do not live in their parents home
3. They disavow their parents as living in a sinful and counterfeit life style.

You may be a member of the church (LDS) and gay if you live a celibate life style, agree being gay is a sin you are suffering from (they call it SSA same sex attraction syndrome) and at least attempt to get married and have children so that god will cure you.

In the month of December following this announcement the number of young people committing suicide in Utah rocketed to 144 and has slowed only slightly since, prompting one venerable late member of the quorum of the twelve to comment it was maybe just as well as god was more likely to for give suicide than gayness.

The overall rate of suicide in Utah is higher thn any other state and is second only percentage wise to Sweden, but considering that the population of Sweden is only about a fifth of the population Utah, the over all numbers are much higher.
Gay people top the list, followed by married women (usually overdosing on anti-depressants), married men (many of who admit that living in denial of being gay is their reason for taking their own life), transsexuals, plural wives (among the fringe cults) and children under the age of sixteen for undisclosed reasons.
The demographic with the lowest rate of suicide is the small openly atheist community.

@LenHazell53 , good info. Thanks.

@icolan That is true, but in small countries like the UK they tend to go abroad, as taking away your passport for "safe keeping" is a way to stop disgruntled elders from just pissing off home.

All religions are cults. imo.

I've never seen a female in the ones around here. And they do come around here.

@icolan It doesn't. There are endless stories of Missionaries demanding back their passports and being refused, in order to give them time to "reconsider" (Being a bastard seems to be a job requirement for a mission President).
One Guy I knew of made friends with a Solicitor under the guise of being an investigator who turned up at the Mission presidents office with two police men in tow, the President claimed not to know the combination of the safe, then claimed the mission center was sovereign Utah soil and that the UK police had no authority there and only when he was arrested gave the lad his passport back, but still refused to let him leave claiming to be his legal guardian. Fortunately in the UK 18 is the age of adulthood so could not stop him.
Even when the missionary arrived at the airport an area 70 was waiting to confront him with the missionariy's father on the phone, the 70 had told his dad the boy was being kidnapped, when the truth came out the father told his son to come home and bawled out the 70.

There are endless stories, Mormons especially those in authority think the are subject only to church law (lore?) and can ignore secular law.
Another elderly couple I knew in a face book ex Mormon site who were serving a mission in Africa became involved in a kidnapping attempt, their car was driven off the road and both were badly injured, thekidnappers decided they were dead and left them. They were not dead and some tiem later were found and taken to hospital.
The church paid their hospital bills and sent them home.
The wife got home and her husband went back in to hospital in the US.
She was devastated and he died five years later from his injuries, she spent those last years fighting in court against the LDS church after they sent her an invoice for $50,000 for air fare home and African hospital fees and ending their mission early, then foreclosed on them when they refused to pay, even though they had taken out insurance with the church before leaving.

They are evil

Lol

I kinda figured it was a title.