Pastor Claims Gay People Are Possessed By “Fart Demons” That Can Drive Pigs To Suicide / Queerty

273kelvin comments on Oct 13, 2019:

I have to say this but "only in America". Not just this outrageous nitwit but all the christian-right. They would not last 5 minutes in the UK or Europe. The ridicule of the general public would eat them alive. Not only that but the religious establishment would treat them like a fart in a lift. ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 14, 2019:

@creative51 I have to say that I did think very carefully before posting that comment. This is how my thought processes went. I know that there are many backward ideas still prevalent in the African continent and that it was the perfect simile for what I wanted to express. Not to do so would have been patronizing and in of itself racist. If we refrain from criticism simply so as not to appear racist? We do no favors to anybody. Would you not have a go at Israel, China or Pakistan over their human rights issues because of their ethnic population? To do so would give their govts a free ride. The first and major criticism of my comment was directed at the US and its population. Was that racist too? Yes I know that Americans are not a race but thats not how the far-right view themselves

Do you background check online dates prior to meeting in person?

273kelvin comments on Oct 12, 2019:

I always invite any potential date to check out my FB page to show that I am legit

273kelvin replies on Oct 14, 2019:

@RavenCT Good luck with my passport, its 10 years out of date

Pastor Claims Gay People Are Possessed By “Fart Demons” That Can Drive Pigs To Suicide / Queerty

273kelvin comments on Oct 13, 2019:

I have to say this but "only in America". Not just this outrageous nitwit but all the christian-right. They would not last 5 minutes in the UK or Europe. The ridicule of the general public would eat them alive. Not only that but the religious establishment would treat them like a fart in a lift. ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 14, 2019:

@itsmedammit Okay maybe a little bit strong but really! The people on this site (for the most part) are good hearted and educated people. But when the VP of a superpower says that global warming can be solved by prayer. You have to worry about the idiots that voted for him.

Pastor Claims Gay People Are Possessed By “Fart Demons” That Can Drive Pigs To Suicide / Queerty

273kelvin comments on Oct 13, 2019:

I have to say this but "only in America". Not just this outrageous nitwit but all the christian-right. They would not last 5 minutes in the UK or Europe. The ridicule of the general public would eat them alive. Not only that but the religious establishment would treat them like a fart in a lift. ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 14, 2019:

@creative51 Not racist, (no buts) my ex is African. There are many cock-a-mammy ideas still widespread there like shagging a virgin can cure you of HIV or that AIDS does not exist at all, its just malaria. Practicing homosexuals facing the death penalty in Ghana. Not surprising that it is becoming the demographic center of Christianity.

Do you background check online dates prior to meeting in person?

273kelvin comments on Oct 12, 2019:

I always invite any potential date to check out my FB page to show that I am legit

273kelvin replies on Oct 13, 2019:

@RavenCT, @AnneWimsey, @demifeministgal I have a perfect way not to get scammed online. I have no money to give them

Why do they worship?

Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 13, 2019:

Who doesn’t like a good singsong!

273kelvin replies on Oct 13, 2019:

My neighbors at 2 am

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Moravian comments on Oct 13, 2019:

Does it really matter ?

273kelvin replies on Oct 13, 2019:

@Moravian Oh I did not expect any conversions. But if we do not attack this kind of cancer it will spread. So I publicly called him out. If it causes one of his present or potential followers to think for themselves? It will have been worth it. Even if that is not the case? I sleep like god through the Holocaust knowing that at least one man knows what a hypocrite he is and he knows it too.

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Moravian comments on Oct 13, 2019:

Does it really matter ?

273kelvin replies on Oct 13, 2019:

I suppose not, other than making this idiot confront his "La la Im not listening" mentality. Especially as he made a big deal about truth in his blog

In the city where you live, how an atheist person is looked upon or considered in general?

LenHazell53 comments on Oct 12, 2019:

More or less in my town no one gives a toss

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

Same here

Do you background check online dates prior to meeting in person?

273kelvin comments on Oct 12, 2019:

I always invite any potential date to check out my FB page to show that I am legit

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

@Cast1es I dont know about other FB pages but mine has several years of activity. Including when I was in and out of a relationship. Most of my local friends and all my family. If any potential date thought that I might be falsifying it to deceive them? Then they are flattering themselves too much. I cant think of any woman I would go to that much lengths get. Any scammer FB page would be sparse and quite recently opened.

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273kelvin comments on Oct 12, 2019:

I always invite any potential date to check out my FB page to show that I am legit

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

@AnneWimsey They recently built a new bridge over the river Mersey at Runcorn near me. You can only pay the toll online

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sassygirl3869 comments on Oct 12, 2019:

@273kelvin surprised you care about this kind of bullshit. Didn't know it was in your wheelhouse.

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

The best was when he claimed "even that some highly respected science sources have taken steps to cover up this information so as not to do damage to their narrative." (ie. the Smithsonian) So I clicked on his link and also found these stories there FLORIDA FISHERMAN LOST AT SEA FOR 14 DAYS CLAIMS HE WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY MERMAIDS and INDIAN AUTHORITIES ON HIGH ALERT AFTER MAN-EATING COW CLAIMS 26TH VICTIM You cant make this shit up. Well you can...

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sassygirl3869 comments on Oct 12, 2019:

@273kelvin surprised you care about this kind of bullshit. Didn't know it was in your wheelhouse.

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

A mutual FB friend came up with the idea and it passed the time

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AnneWimsey comments on Oct 12, 2019:

Ooooookaaaaaay, you have a fundamentalist minister because...?

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

A FB friend from on here suggested that we might have go at them for a change. After all they knock on our doors etc. His blog was so full of bs that I could not help but debunk it and post my findings. And I was quite bored at the time. It seemed like a better way of passing the time than video games

Do you background check online dates prior to meeting in person?

273kelvin comments on Oct 12, 2019:

I always invite any potential date to check out my FB page to show that I am legit

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

@MsAl Everyone has some online presence now. I would be very suspicious of someone that does not

This is a good one 😛

273kelvin comments on Oct 11, 2019:

Napoleon was wandering through his entourage when casually asked one of them "Do you speak Spanish?" "No I am sorry I dont emperor" "Pity" said Napoleon and walked on. The courtier thinking that his emperor must have some very important business for him in Spain. Hired a tutor and spent 3 months...

273kelvin replies on Oct 12, 2019:

@drowsydragon34 I got that story from Somerset Maugham. He reckoned it was worth the effort

Q:202821 So why was it deleted? EDIT: I found an old post where I used it – here it is:

creative51 comments on Oct 10, 2019:

Everyone got sick of it!

273kelvin replies on Oct 10, 2019:

@creative51 I am unamerican

Onward atheist soldiers.

Orbit comments on Oct 9, 2019:

TLD f'in R

273kelvin replies on Oct 10, 2019:

@indirect76 The devil is in the details

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oldFloyd comments on Oct 9, 2019:

It actually sounds like you were enjoying yourself, Wasn't it in 1st Corinthians where it was said if you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with bulshyt. 🤪

273kelvin replies on Oct 9, 2019:

Par deux https://agnostic.com/post/412145/onward-atheist-soldiers-further-battles-with-a-fundamentalist-christian-pastor-some-of-you-may-ha

Onward atheist soldiers.

Orbit comments on Oct 9, 2019:

TLD f'in R

273kelvin replies on Oct 9, 2019:

??

Onward atheist soldiers.

WilliamFleming comments on Oct 9, 2019:

What a post! Damn, you must have more time on your hands than I do, and I’m retired. Maybe the femur is from a bear. You mentioned a bear faced lie.

273kelvin replies on Oct 9, 2019:

It beats the hell out of playing video games or watching TV and if it causes one person to think? Then it is a lot more productive

is the New Cold War in the Making?

273kelvin comments on Oct 9, 2019:

If it does then the USA had better watch out, as China hold a huge amount of its debt

273kelvin replies on Oct 9, 2019:

@St-Sinner Yes I agree with the China part. They say that the Chinese plan for next year and 200 years from now. Hence their lease of the new territories to the UK. However the 45 part is whether the rest of the world will come to the US`s aid?

is the New Cold War in the Making?

273kelvin comments on Oct 9, 2019:

If it does then the USA had better watch out, as China hold a huge amount of its debt

273kelvin replies on Oct 9, 2019:

@St-Sinner That might depend on how much 45 pushes "America 1st"

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Storm1752 comments on Oct 8, 2019:

Maybe alien-human hybrid sculpture.

273kelvin replies on Oct 9, 2019:

@Storm1752 Yes this is the lie I caught him out on. "“It is true that I sculpted a femur 47-1/2 (120 cm) based on a report in a newsletter where it was reported on by the construction engineer who found it and other skeletons the same height. I was commissioned to sculpt the femur so a college professor could show his students how large it was. I molded it and sent him a cast. I then cast one for my museum and mounted it over a drawing of a skeleton the same size. A femur of a an ancient human was used as the guide for the sculpture. In every instance, I have told others that it is JUST A SCULPTURE." http://mtblanco.com/2015/10/giant-human-femur-bone-answering-questions/?fbclid=IwAR3FSBvQd2DtEez87VpUvJl8esgQTflL4sloxvhk85flogKmQdgqnnrgDrs I am posting further ongoing messages with this charlatan in another related post

"The Cure for Toxic Positivity -- ‘Hang in there!’ can do more harm than good" ...

273kelvin comments on Oct 8, 2019:

A man falls down a deep hole and is unable to get out when he sees his priest walk by up above. The man calls to him and his priest prays for him then walks on. Next the mans doctor walks by and again he calls out but the doctor just writes him a note and walks on. Then the mans friend walk by ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 8, 2019:

@bleurowz I am lucky enough to have at least one or two good friends that have helped me out in this way. Whilst I am here; Thank you Dylan, Iris and Janni

So they put "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government.

Gareth comments on Oct 8, 2019:

You clearly have not a clue about how the BBC is funded and operated.

273kelvin replies on Oct 8, 2019:

@Gareth Supporters of Corbyn may differ. Also many have lost faith in aunty beeb following the Jimmy Savile scandal. Who was so much part of the establishment that the bbc raked in ratings and kept shtum

So they put "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government.

Gareth comments on Oct 8, 2019:

You clearly have not a clue about how the BBC is funded and operated.

273kelvin replies on Oct 8, 2019:

If it got all its funds from the licence fee and sales but it does rely heavily on treasury money too and that is subject to the discretion of govt

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Storm1752 comments on Oct 8, 2019:

Maybe alien-human hybrid sculpture.

273kelvin replies on Oct 8, 2019:

But the smart money is on what it literally is...... A fabrication!

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Gawd comments on Oct 6, 2019:

They just can't listen to reason. :/

273kelvin replies on Oct 7, 2019:

@Gawd I have shifted them a little. There is a very nice lady who did the straight line Christian anti-gay thing with me. I kinda knew that she was just toeing the party line bc she was a heart a caring person. So I asked he if her god loved all his children or just the straight ones? I think that she was glad of the excuse not to hate.

Why be an atheist?

Cinco comments on Oct 7, 2019:

I really have no choice. I’ve simply never received any reason to be otherwise. It is a passive state really.

273kelvin replies on Oct 7, 2019:

It is posted in silly, random, fun. Not Philosophy

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Gawd comments on Oct 6, 2019:

They just can't listen to reason. :/

273kelvin replies on Oct 7, 2019:

That should not silence us. We have a duty to give them light

Confederate Flag ::: A comment about those who revere the Confederacy, and the Confederate Flag ...

273kelvin comments on Oct 6, 2019:

As a brit here is how I view this. The South seceded, it attacked 1st. Should the USA apologize to Japan? Should the USA and the UK say sorry to Germany? No, at the time the former was enslaving vast areas of Asia and the latter throwing people into cattle trucks. With we all know what end. ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 6, 2019:

@Jacar My criticism was directed at "their" need. If you take that as directed at you well... but then again you posted it.

Confederate Flag ::: A comment about those who revere the Confederacy, and the Confederate Flag ...

273kelvin comments on Oct 6, 2019:

As a brit here is how I view this. The South seceded, it attacked 1st. Should the USA apologize to Japan? Should the USA and the UK say sorry to Germany? No, at the time the former was enslaving vast areas of Asia and the latter throwing people into cattle trucks. With we all know what end. ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 6, 2019:

@Jacar "We do poorly to discount their need for apology. We reveal our lack of previous reflection in our exclamations of their lessness."

Just wanted to acknowledge the passing of the legend, Ginger Baker.

273kelvin comments on Oct 6, 2019:

Great musician - shit person

273kelvin replies on Oct 6, 2019:

@Red_Cat What the documentary and you will find out. Even John Lydon could not stand him

Imagine my shock when I learned there is a Hell, Michigan.

273kelvin comments on Oct 6, 2019:

Early in this site, we had a member from there. I thought that she was joking till I googled it

273kelvin replies on Oct 6, 2019:

@WonderWartHog99 I read that Athens Georgia built a replica Parthenon

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Triphid comments on Oct 5, 2019:

Considering that through archaeological studies, etc, the average height of humans from around the time when Homo Sapiens first evolved until around the late Middle Ages was between 5' 3" and 5' 10" and persons taller than that WERE consider to be 'giants' the possibility of anything REMOTELY human ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 6, 2019:

@Triphid The Photographs were in reference to someone he allegedly had an image of Noah's arc. As if that were the case, Christian organizations would not be falling over themselves to mount archeological expeditions to reveal "the truth". The problem with these scoundrels is the poor gullible souls that take them at face value. There are good Christian people of faith and ministers that serve the community with charity and honor. This man is not one of them. Not only that but this kind of deception is polluting and perverting your education system. So it is far from a victimless crime. The point of my humorous post was a call to arms to members of this site. We can and should (if we have the time) confront these falsehoods publicly, whenever we can.

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Triphid comments on Oct 5, 2019:

Considering that through archaeological studies, etc, the average height of humans from around the time when Homo Sapiens first evolved until around the late Middle Ages was between 5' 3" and 5' 10" and persons taller than that WERE consider to be 'giants' the possibility of anything REMOTELY human ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 6, 2019:

@Triphid Yes of course but his were modern-day ones like "I met a guy that showed me a photograph" or "He assured me that".

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273kelvin comments on Oct 5, 2019:

Cont.....Me---It gets better. Following your previous msgs I looked up Jack Horner and he is a very respected paleontologist. I also looked up Otis Kline and his Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. Here is what Jack Horner is quoted in Wikipedia saying about it "It's not a science museum at ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 5, 2019:

Me again ---Oh what a dangled web we weave. When we practice to deceive

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PondartIncbendog comments on Oct 5, 2019:

I think the rumor of giantaism has been stretched to the limit. The glandular malfunctions were not able to be treated back then. They didn't know what a thyroid was.

273kelvin replies on Oct 5, 2019:

"the rumor of giantaism has been stretched to the limit." lol

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DenoPenno comments on Oct 5, 2019:

"And there were giants in th earth in those days." The implication at the time of that OT writing might have you believe that giants were once common but not common at the time of the writing. There are always those of faith who want to stretch things so as to appear strengthening their faith. In ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 5, 2019:

The giants that he is referring to, is the mythical pre-Noah ones. There were many other "proofs" that he offered to other biblical myths but they were all hearsay. This was the only checkable fact in the blog and as you see it was a quite literal fabrication.

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PondartIncbendog comments on Oct 5, 2019:

I think the rumor of giantaism has been stretched to the limit. The glandular malfunctions were not able to be treated back then. They didn't know what a thyroid was.

273kelvin replies on Oct 5, 2019:

The giants that he is referring to, is the mythical pre-Noah ones. There were many other "proofs" that he offered to other biblical myths but they were all hearsay. This was the only checkable fact in the blog and as you see it was a quite literal fabrication.

ARE YOU ANNOYED AT TV EVANAGLISTS AND DOOR KNOCKING BIBLE THUMPERS?

Triphid comments on Oct 5, 2019:

Considering that through archaeological studies, etc, the average height of humans from around the time when Homo Sapiens first evolved until around the late Middle Ages was between 5' 3" and 5' 10" and persons taller than that WERE consider to be 'giants' the possibility of anything REMOTELY human ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 5, 2019:

The giants that he is referring to, is the mythical pre-Noah ones. There were many other "proofs" that he offered to other biblical myths but they were all hearsay. This was the only checkable fact in the blog and as you see it was a quite literal fabrication.

My son took me to see Joker today as a birthday treat.

273kelvin comments on Oct 5, 2019:

Not my type of thing but I noticed in the trailer a joke stolen from the late great UK comic Bob Monkhouse. "They all laughed when I said that I was going to be a comedian Well they`re not laughing now"

273kelvin replies on Oct 5, 2019:

@LenHazell53 I remember him telling of the time he got a gig writing for Bob Hope. They were working in Hopes NY hotel room and Monkhouse asks to use the bathroom. As he is in there, Hope shouts "Keep writing! there's plenty of paper"

My son took me to see Joker today as a birthday treat.

273kelvin comments on Oct 5, 2019:

Not my type of thing but I noticed in the trailer a joke stolen from the late great UK comic Bob Monkhouse. "They all laughed when I said that I was going to be a comedian Well they`re not laughing now"

273kelvin replies on Oct 5, 2019:

@LenHazell53 Wow really? I think that he would have been chuffed.

Do you think that Trump will take part in a TV campaign debate or will he duck out like the ...

St-Sinner comments on Oct 4, 2019:

Unfortunately, I do not know of any candidate on the Democratic side - not one who can even stand a chance against ruthless Trump. He blew 16 strong Republican established candidates in 2016. That is the dream candidate we are looking for but frail and old Biden or Bernie are not it. Warren can ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 4, 2019:

@St-Sinner How do we know that Ben Franklin was a misogynist? He made interfering with someone else's mail a federal offense. I hear that Trump is looking to pull out of the international postal agreement. That's taking isolationism a bit too far. America and the UK were not that different in the 30s. The split came after the war when we spent our money on social welfare and you spent yours on weapons.

Do you think that Trump will take part in a TV campaign debate or will he duck out like the ...

St-Sinner comments on Oct 4, 2019:

Unfortunately, I do not know of any candidate on the Democratic side - not one who can even stand a chance against ruthless Trump. He blew 16 strong Republican established candidates in 2016. That is the dream candidate we are looking for but frail and old Biden or Bernie are not it. Warren can ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 4, 2019:

@St-Sinner It always amazes me what you yanks class as radical left. We got our healthcare set up in 1945 and even Winston Churchill (who no one could describe a left-wing) did not oppose it principle, just in timing. (we had just maxed our cards out saving the world from tyranny). Furthermore, he did not repeal it when he got back into power 5 years later

Do you think that Trump will take part in a TV campaign debate or will he duck out like the ...

St-Sinner comments on Oct 4, 2019:

Unfortunately, I do not know of any candidate on the Democratic side - not one who can even stand a chance against ruthless Trump. He blew 16 strong Republican established candidates in 2016. That is the dream candidate we are looking for but frail and old Biden or Bernie are not it. Warren can ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 4, 2019:

@St-Sinner Just did a little check and best odds out there is Warren 11/4 and Trump 11/8. Not that great for POTUS when you consider that is against any candidate, the incumbent has a home-court advantage of historically 3/1 and that when I checked 3 weeks ago he was 10/11

Do you think that Trump will take part in a TV campaign debate or will he duck out like the ...

St-Sinner comments on Oct 4, 2019:

Unfortunately, I do not know of any candidate on the Democratic side - not one who can even stand a chance against ruthless Trump. He blew 16 strong Republican established candidates in 2016. That is the dream candidate we are looking for but frail and old Biden or Bernie are not it. Warren can ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 4, 2019:

@St-Sinner If I made a mistake I apologize. I did not watch them all as I really cannot stand his voice. Just that I seem to remember him doing a booster rally instead of one of the debates.

Do you think that Trump will take part in a TV campaign debate or will he duck out like the ...

St-Sinner comments on Oct 4, 2019:

Unfortunately, I do not know of any candidate on the Democratic side - not one who can even stand a chance against ruthless Trump. He blew 16 strong Republican established candidates in 2016. That is the dream candidate we are looking for but frail and old Biden or Bernie are not it. Warren can ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 4, 2019:

But he did not debate against the16. He only took on Hillary, which was let's face it, low hanging fruit Btw Warren is the bookies favorite

God works in mysterious ways...

WilliamFleming comments on Oct 3, 2019:

Very odd. How is it that a couple of coils of DNA all curled up, lying in cells can control the development of an organism? It seems analogous to a set of building plans all rolled up in a construction shack. The building doesn’t build itself. Someone has to interpret the plans and perform ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 3, 2019:

@Geoffrey51 Kind of, when they put a mouses eye DNA into a fruit fly. It grows another eye but not a mouse eye. It grows a fly eye. That means that we (coz we are mammals too) have in us the capacity to have fly eyes.

Tips on dealing with religious family before, during, and after funerals...

KKGator comments on Oct 3, 2019:

"Going along", in any situation, usually proves to be the worst possible course of action. That's how atrocities are allowed to happen. That's how crimes are allowed to go unpunished. It makes NO sense to me that any non-believer should have to be the one to "go along" with a bunch of ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 3, 2019:

@KKGator The operative word there is "nearly". I fail to see how respecting other beliefs at a family funeral can be put in the same context as condoning atrocities. My father was an atheist too. I can still remember the odd family occasions where our presence was required in the church. He would go down on one knee, bow his head and remain silent as prays were said. He never joined in the hymns or communal prays but did not make a big deal about it. It was HIS respectful silence that makes me so angry at bible thumpers berating me as I walk down the high st and why I berate them back.

Tips on dealing with religious family before, during, and after funerals...

KKGator comments on Oct 3, 2019:

"Going along", in any situation, usually proves to be the worst possible course of action. That's how atrocities are allowed to happen. That's how crimes are allowed to go unpunished. It makes NO sense to me that any non-believer should have to be the one to "go along" with a bunch of ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 3, 2019:

A family funeral is not the same as condoning atrocities. If the funeral was secular then religious people would have to respect that. If you follow your reasoning to its logical conclusion? Then no atheist would ever sit in Congress or the Senate, as they would refuse to pledge "One nation under god". That would leave the voters unrepresented. If you think that that is far fetched then take a look at Sinn Fein MPs in Northern Ireland. They will not sit in Westminster bc they won't pledge allegiance to the queen and NI assembly has not sat for 3 years due to a dispute. "Here lies the grave of Albert May Who died defending his right of way He was right all along, all along But he is just as dead as if he was wrong"

Is right and wrong relative or fixed (absolute)?

AnneWimsey comments on Oct 3, 2019:

Depends on what you are talking about. Child abuse? Wrong! Telling Aunt Fanny you love her gift? (Ugliest thing you ever saw!) Fine. And etc.

273kelvin replies on Oct 3, 2019:

We can all agree that child abuse is wrong but what constitutes child abuse is variable. For example, a delve into my family tree that showed my grandmother was married at 12. Now I do not say that child marriage is ok but what I do say is that it was thought to be moral in my grandmother's time. I understand that some US states the age of consent varies from 14 - 16 - 18. So even now the issue is not as clear as you might think

I just got into a debate with someone about Jesus' crucifixion being God's Will, hypothetically.

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2019:

The Judas paradox, is Judas really a hero. It was an issue that the early church nearly strangled itself with, for a good laugh it is well worth looking it up. But only if you have a lot of time to spare.

273kelvin replies on Oct 3, 2019:

@blahblah https://youtu.be/DQdDmL9SgQs

Dating religious people

273kelvin comments on Oct 2, 2019:

Firstly, you did exactly the right thing by calling him out. I don`t know precisely what happened to turn him. Either he expected some kind of divine light to fall on you after his statement about god bringing you two together or his church cronies went to work on him. Possibly a combination of ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 3, 2019:

@kristi0889 Christianity is pretty much unworkable as a philosophy. Everyone falls short of the impossible standards that are imposed. "The thought is father to the deed" therefore just fancying someone else is as much of a sin as adulatory etc. So if you miss the target all the time, you dont really consider all of your actions. Then there is the partisan nature of religious sects. My favorite new testament parable is the good Samaritan. I had the occasion to recall the story to my Jewish gf on the very road in Israel where it is set. (She had never heard the story before) After that I did a little research and found out who the Samaritans were. They still live in the area and although they celebrate the passover, do not attend temple. This means that at some time they were Jews that fell out with the established church. Consequently the Jews looked upon them as a whole tribe of Benedict Arnold's. Yet JC choose a Samaritan to be the hero of the tale. That part of it is never put over in any church teaching that I know of.

Gracie Fields Thing-Ummy-Bob(Thats Going To Win The War) from WW2 My ear-worm atm It is being used ...

FrayedBear comments on Oct 1, 2019:

How opportune. Someone has just made a posting concerning this. Thanks Kelvin I'll go back and share it for you. I vaguely remember that "Our Gracie" retired to Blackpool or its suburb Cleveleys. Vague indeed - I may be mixing her up with Ena Sharples!

273kelvin replies on Oct 2, 2019:

@FrayedBear You`re right

Neil Innes - Name drop alert The guy (Neil Innes) showed up in my local this Saturday afternoon.

KKGator comments on Oct 2, 2019:

It was Eric Idle, and the Rutles. ;)

273kelvin replies on Oct 2, 2019:

Yes a and Neil Innes

Gracie Fields Thing-Ummy-Bob(Thats Going To Win The War) from WW2 My ear-worm atm It is being used ...

FrayedBear comments on Oct 1, 2019:

How opportune. Someone has just made a posting concerning this. Thanks Kelvin I'll go back and share it for you. I vaguely remember that "Our Gracie" retired to Blackpool or its suburb Cleveleys. Vague indeed - I may be mixing her up with Ena Sharples!

273kelvin replies on Oct 2, 2019:

She got a lot of flack in the war because she had married an Italian. Even though she did a lot of entertaining for the troops and this song etc. I think that she retired to Naples.

People ask just how much respect we should give to others views like religion.

mordant comments on Oct 1, 2019:

I respect the right of others to believe and practice as they wish, so long as they afford me the same rights and they harm no others in the process. I do not think that religious ideation is entitled to be uncritically accepted by one and all on pain of the accusation of blasphemy, or that there...

273kelvin replies on Oct 1, 2019:

And I knew an otherwise quite intelligent guy, great chess player who was convinced that pro-wrestling was real. In the end I had to say to him "Okay go down to the bookmakers (betting is legal here) and try and bet on it". I get what you say about the benign ones that say "Its just what I believe" and I respect them (not their beliefs). Others that claim some divine right to maintain there really is a tooth fairy deserve all that I can be arsed giving them.

I am curious to know how many of you maintain friendships with religious people (particularly those ...

Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 1, 2019:

My bf is Catholic and so is his whole family

273kelvin replies on Oct 1, 2019:

@DenoPenno Wrong religion

Amazing how there are still people out there that think banning books is a good thing.

PolyComrade comments on Sep 29, 2019:

I worked in a bookstore for over 10 years that specializes in queer, feminist, anarchist, anticolonial books. Every so often a discussion would arise about whether to carry a certain book or author, often do to things they had done (e.g.. Marion Zimmer Bradley accused of child abuse by her kid, or...

273kelvin replies on Oct 1, 2019:

@PolyComrade I just did a little research and it was the Johnson/Nixon administration that blacklisted her. So I suppose that it must have faded out by that time.

People ask just how much respect we should give to others views like religion.

Gwendolyn2018 comments on Sep 30, 2019:

A similar question was posed some time ago. I responded that while I respect the right of others to believe as they like, no, I do not respect the views of religious people. I respect people, not views, but their views reflect the kind of people who they are. I know liberal Xtians whom I respect ...

273kelvin replies on Oct 1, 2019:

I hear that the Amish are using power tools now and just finishing their goods for sale off by hand

Well.

RiverRick comments on Sep 30, 2019:

You guys are young and still learning stuff. Stuff about the world and stuff about each other. I wouldn't be so quick to leave unless he has gone cultish on you and you far for your safety. My (ex)wife was a catholic and was fine with me being atheist/agnostic.... Well... perhaps "not fine" but she ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 30, 2019:

@RiverRick I suggest that you read the ladies previous post on this. When they married he agreed to keep religion out of it. Now he says "She has to get good with god". This is not a case of agreeing to differ. This is tantamount to abuse (and I never use that word lightly). It has been him not her that is saying "my way or highway". Just because you and your ex managed to live with your differences for while, does not mean that she has to subjugate herself and beliefs to fit in with his new-found delusions.

Well.

RiverRick comments on Sep 30, 2019:

You guys are young and still learning stuff. Stuff about the world and stuff about each other. I wouldn't be so quick to leave unless he has gone cultish on you and you far for your safety. My (ex)wife was a catholic and was fine with me being atheist/agnostic.... Well... perhaps "not fine" but she ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 30, 2019:

Are you serious? The guy has banned all secular music. If it was me, then I would be looking for a fucking hitman not a lawyer. Just how much christian rock could you put up with?

Amazing how there are still people out there that think banning books is a good thing.

PolyComrade comments on Sep 29, 2019:

I worked in a bookstore for over 10 years that specializes in queer, feminist, anarchist, anticolonial books. Every so often a discussion would arise about whether to carry a certain book or author, often do to things they had done (e.g.. Marion Zimmer Bradley accused of child abuse by her kid, or...

273kelvin replies on Sep 30, 2019:

I did not know that Buffy Sainte Marie was blacklisted. Does that include the movie "Officer and a gentleman" As she co-wrote the theme song?

Democrats Predict Speedy Impeachment Inquiry Lasting Weeks, Not 'Months'

Trajan61 comments on Sep 29, 2019:

Why not let the voters decide instead of the looney democrats in the house? I hope this idiotic impeachment attempt blows up and the democrats lose the house.

273kelvin replies on Sep 29, 2019:

The thing you have to ask yourself is this. Was I so adamant about letting the voters decide when Bill Clinton was under impeachment investigations? Or when certain GOP spokesmen were questioning Obama's place of birth? I recently had a long conversation with my brother. Unlike me, he leans heavily to the right and is very no-deal Brexit. He questioned the right of the UK supreme court to rule on the PMs proroguing of parliament. So I asked the same. "Would you feel the same way if Boris`s predecessor May had used similar tactics to force her deal through?" The courts are one way to keep the executive within the law. Considering how many of Trump associates and former staff members have been convicted. I cannot as an outsider think that this is just fishing. If you cant do the time...

To our UK members. Marianne and Leonard tonight on BBC2 9 pm [youtu.be]

FrayedBear comments on Sep 28, 2019:

I used to think of Cohen songs as being fit for listening to by those contemplating commigting suicide - listen to 30 minutes of them and you will make your mind up (one way or the other). The above comment used to not include the part in (_) but then I was upraided by a Canadian with lovely legs ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 28, 2019:

@FrayedBear Cohen line "I have all these ghosts of culture that are tattoed on my wrist" There are lots of Jewish references like that. Some more than others. Songs like "Who by fire" and "You want it darker" are taken directly from religious ceremonies. Others from the Torah or the holocaust but there is "Joan of Arc" and some references to Scientology. Mostly though he writes about women. The UK comic Arther Smith put it best "Cohen is Barry White for sensitive birds"

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DenoPenno comments on Sep 27, 2019:

Good luck as you face a nearly impossible task. Sounds to me like he got in with an Evangelical group who claims to have all the answers. His next steps will be to convince you that some invisible part of you will go to a non-existent place when you die if you do not change your ways and wake up to ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 28, 2019:

@DenoPenno It is a little known fact that the old testament was written after the new. It is made up from the collected works of the Torah. These were scattered around the various tribes of Israel and only when the Romans were ethnically cleansing Judea did it become a single book. With the usual editing that goes into a collection. Early Christians had their own version of it but that was ditched in favour of the definitive work

I have a real hatred for blanket statement.

MissKathleen comments on Sep 27, 2019:

What gets ME, is anybody saying anything disparaging about anyone. And, I am so sick of gossip...even if it is true.

273kelvin replies on Sep 28, 2019:

@ToolGuy Yeah that`s what you say here but... ;-)

To our UK members. Marianne and Leonard tonight on BBC2 9 pm [youtu.be]

FrayedBear comments on Sep 28, 2019:

I used to think of Cohen songs as being fit for listening to by those contemplating commigting suicide - listen to 30 minutes of them and you will make your mind up (one way or the other). The above comment used to not include the part in (_) but then I was upraided by a Canadian with lovely legs ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 28, 2019:

@FrayedBear He did give it up. (Not a habit that you can have in a Zen Buddhist monastery) But took it back up when the race was lost. His last album "You want it darker" is an acceptance of his imminent demise. This track sounds like an anthem for abuse survivors https://youtu.be/5Bxbw0wfDOI

To our UK members. Marianne and Leonard tonight on BBC2 9 pm [youtu.be]

FrayedBear comments on Sep 28, 2019:

I used to think of Cohen songs as being fit for listening to by those contemplating commigting suicide - listen to 30 minutes of them and you will make your mind up (one way or the other). The above comment used to not include the part in (_) but then I was upraided by a Canadian with lovely legs ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 28, 2019:

What most non-Cohen fans don't get is that he was at heart a comedian. Lines like "Even damnation is poisoned with rainbows". I remember him saying that he studied religion for years but humour kept sneaking in. Yes, he went to dark places but if you happened to find yourself there too and nobody had talked about them before. You might feel very alone. The most depressing music most likely to send you over the edge can be x-mas songs

To our UK members. Marianne and Leonard tonight on BBC2 9 pm [youtu.be]

FrayedBear comments on Sep 28, 2019:

I used to think of Cohen songs as being fit for listening to by those contemplating commigting suicide - listen to 30 minutes of them and you will make your mind up (one way or the other). The above comment used to not include the part in (_) but then I was upraided by a Canadian with lovely legs ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 28, 2019:

The big C

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273kelvin comments on Sep 27, 2019:

Ask for equal time. Be respectful of his beliefs and open to whatever teachings etc. that he tries but with the proviso that he does the same. So if he wants you to watch a video for 20 mins then he has to watch 20 mins of Richard Dawkins or similar. He will soon get tired of quid pro quo or see ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 27, 2019:

I thought about this again and realized that it may not come in the shape of "Watch/read this". More like"Look at God's beauty" or "It was a judgment from on high" kind of thing. I suppose that you already have a lot of stock answers to his bs but there is a well of many more on here and we are here for you

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DenoPenno comments on Sep 27, 2019:

Good luck as you face a nearly impossible task. Sounds to me like he got in with an Evangelical group who claims to have all the answers. His next steps will be to convince you that some invisible part of you will go to a non-existent place when you die if you do not change your ways and wake up to ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 27, 2019:

I remember seeing somewhere that the earliest edition of the bible that we have, has about 30,000 alterations in it. So much for the immutable word of god.

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MrBeelzeebubbles comments on Sep 27, 2019:

How about raising the stakes a bit. One night, orally pleasure him. And I mean really go to town, full-on naughty girl fellatio style. If you need any advice, tips or tricks, the 'Sexual Deviants' group here would be glad to help out. The next day, tell him you'll do it again if he denies Christ. ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 27, 2019:

No that would be the devil at work and it is wrong to use sex in a relationship like that. Someone's beliefs are theirs and should not be bought/sold or prostituted.

Who’s your favorite scientist and why?

glennlab comments on Sep 24, 2019:

Isaac Asimov, able to move from Teaching physics and writing textbooks to writing science fiction and back.

273kelvin replies on Sep 25, 2019:

@glennlab Here is one that I remember; Mrs Cohen dies and goes to heaven. St Peter meets her at the gate and says "Come in Mrs Cohen, you have been a pious lady all your life and you are welcome in here. Is there anyone that has passed that you would like to meet." "Em well, would it be possible to meet the Virgin Mary?" "Okay yes er I suppose so. She does like to visit the old neighborhood now and again. I will ask her to pop around" So time passes or not (it is heaven) and the Virgin Mary calls round. "Hello, come in would you like something to eat? Motza balls, gefilte fish, lokshen pudding?" "No thank you, Mrs Cohen, I`m good. May I ask why you asked for me to call?" "Well, Mary (may I call you that?) I always wanted to know how it feels to have such a wonderful son? You must be so proud. He is worshiped all over the world and venerated by so many people?" The Virgin Mary takes Mrs Cohen by the hand and looks her in the eye and says "To tell you the truth Mrs Cohen, we always hoped that he would become a doctor"

Who’s your favorite scientist and why?

glennlab comments on Sep 24, 2019:

Isaac Asimov, able to move from Teaching physics and writing textbooks to writing science fiction and back.

273kelvin replies on Sep 24, 2019:

Did you ever read his joke book?

If all religion ended tomorrow, what do you think would happen to all the churches,etc.?

WeaZ comments on Sep 23, 2019:

The evidence that I have seen, shows empty churches have been eventually used for something else. The bigger question is morality. If all religions stopped or ended over night, how many people that hide behind religion by doing morally correct things (due to fear of an afterlife universal ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 23, 2019:

Someone posted a video of Jordan Peterson espousing this idea that religion keeps society in check and that even us heathens are only good because of its residual fallout. This got me thinking and researching. So I googled the most religious counties and the ones with the highest crime rates. Not only was the no correlation between the two but some appeared high on both lists. Ethiopia and Rwanda, now they are both very poor counties and that can explain a high crime rate but not the genocide that Rwanda went though. Its atheist quotient is only 5% Which is close to the USA of 4.6% that also has one of the highest crime rates in the western world. With 1% of its population in jail.

have not been on this site for bit, had car accident and suffered a concussion, lost a month, and ...

demifeministgal comments on Sep 23, 2019:

did you mean sapio-sexial?? :s

273kelvin replies on Sep 23, 2019:

@aahouck49 Mansplian alert !! sapio-sexial N. used to describe someone who is sexually aroused by intellect more than physicality

Muslim in a yoga class.

Sofabeast comments on Sep 19, 2019:

Cheers for that. Moments like this are part of my end of year project on integration. When I was down in London back in January I was in a pub, and two coffee coloured gentlemen met each other with 'Paki Wanker' 'Bangla Bastard'! as greetings. Their accents pure Middlesex, their drinks beer. ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 21, 2019:

A few years ago when I lived in Toxteth (see comment above) my gf had a craving for a kebab. So I got sent out to purchase one. I was waiting in line when half a dozen young lads came in. A mixed bag of black, half-cast, Asian and white. All about 14, all speaking scouse and all tying to look hard but not really hard. The kind of gang that could be scary under the wrong circumstances. Full of testosterone and bluster they got around to sassing the guy behind the counter. "So where are you from mate?" I still remember the look he gave them as he turned and held his 18" knife vertical. "Afganistan" was his one-word answer. After that, you could not have met such a well behaved and polite bunch of young men in your life.

I get this sick feeling inside that the only reason Trump isn't going full nuts on Iran is that he ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 20, 2019:

If being at war was enough to suspend elections? You would not have had any since 1942

273kelvin replies on Sep 20, 2019:

@Barnie2years If Lincoln did not suspend elections in the middle of a civil war? There is no way Trump can do so for one on the other side of the world.

I get this sick feeling inside that the only reason Trump isn't going full nuts on Iran is that he ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 20, 2019:

If being at war was enough to suspend elections? You would not have had any since 1942

273kelvin replies on Sep 20, 2019:

@Barnie2years Yeah he kinda makes you nostalgic for Nixon. However, I am sure that even the GOP would baulk at that type of coup.

I have been looking at Facebook and the new dating app.

RobertNappi2 comments on Sep 19, 2019:

I'm old fashioned...I still hit the BAR!!!! LOL

273kelvin replies on Sep 20, 2019:

@WonderWartHog99 I knew a guy who had extreme OCD. He was very shy and still a virgin in his late 20s. Then he met someone that could be described as a "loose". His mom complained to me about her. "How could he think about seeing a woman like that?" I had to break it to her gently that her son needed a woman that his mom would not approve of.

Dating advice.

273kelvin comments on Sep 18, 2019:

Okay, you have a guy that fancies you, thinks that you look good together and would obviously like to explore things. Yes, he has been a little forward but you`re not 18 anymore. I can understand you being careful but I think that you might be seeing flags that are not there. In which case it is ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 20, 2019:

@Stephanie99 If the sexes were reversed and she said the same type of thing to me. "All the guys are jealous of you" I am not sure that it would phase me but I can see how it might. Okay, so you think that he might be a narcissistic player? The hand thing is not something I would ever do but then again I was not there in the moment. Then again I have never been averse to early sex. All of my long term relationships (13, 3 and 15 years) started off with sex on the 1st date. When I said "not 18 anymore" I did not mean or mention dropping anything, including standards. What I meant was we are both of an age where a pass that is too forward is unlikely to shock us.

Does anyone else find the phrase "making love" too hokey?

273kelvin comments on Sep 18, 2019:

Well, what phrase would you use?

273kelvin replies on Sep 20, 2019:

@Cabsmom Yes but it can also describe two people who just met in a bar, having a quickie in the restroom. It does not even begin to describe the scented candles, soft music, shower together, kissing, massage and caresses that can be part of good lovemaking. Not to mention whatever kinky stuff that either or both might be into. On the Eskimo 26 words for snow principle. I would welcome more words and phrases for sex not less.

I have been looking at Facebook and the new dating app.

RobertNappi2 comments on Sep 19, 2019:

I'm old fashioned...I still hit the BAR!!!! LOL

273kelvin replies on Sep 19, 2019:

@Cast1es You say meeting someone who may be an alcoholic - smoker - expect instant sex or use drugs like its a BAD thing? ;-)

Does anyone else find the phrase "making love" too hokey?

273kelvin comments on Sep 18, 2019:

Well, what phrase would you use?

273kelvin replies on Sep 19, 2019:

@Cabsmom Fucking can mean when you pull over at the side of the road and just go for it. That's not making love. You can make love and not fuck. Shoot, you can do oral and not have sex according to Bill Clinton and his lawyer.s. You could say "making woopie" but despite Cole Porter's splendid song, it can sound like sitting on a fart cushion (Come to think of it, if I recall correctly. That's what fucking sometimes sounds like)

Dating advice.

273kelvin comments on Sep 18, 2019:

Okay, you have a guy that fancies you, thinks that you look good together and would obviously like to explore things. Yes, he has been a little forward but you`re not 18 anymore. I can understand you being careful but I think that you might be seeing flags that are not there. In which case it is ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 19, 2019:

@Stephanie99 (Some kind of a glitch. My previous comment was posted before yours) What are your flags worrying you about? That he might be a player, possibly manipulative or abusive? A lot of that can be checked out via his FB page etc. and if thats okay then a date where you meet his friends

Dating advice.

273kelvin comments on Sep 18, 2019:

Okay, you have a guy that fancies you, thinks that you look good together and would obviously like to explore things. Yes, he has been a little forward but you`re not 18 anymore. I can understand you being careful but I think that you might be seeing flags that are not there. In which case it is ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 18, 2019:

@Cutiebeauty No, I am not saying that at all. From what I read the sexual advances did not put her off as much as the "We" rather than the "She" looks good. To my mind, that is about her not being ready rather than her lowering her standards. She already said that she fancied him

We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:

We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 15, 2019:

@Triphid Well there was a war on. I love Spike Milligan's take on it. "The war was a great time for ugly people. You would get some guy that looked like a greek adonis lusting after a fat smelly NAFFE girl with a mustache and waxing lyrical as is she as Venus de Milo. Because she was the only woman around for miles"

Is your reality mine?

273kelvin comments on Sep 14, 2019:

My ex was from Malawi and told me about an amusing incident that proves that racism is not confined to whites. Robert Mugabe to the tobacco growers of Zimbabwe ; "I must congratulate you on an excellent harvest. This year you have grown 10% more tobacco than last year. This is good for you and ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 14, 2019:

@MrBeelzeebubbles Thank you for your input. I did not know about that one. However, I did say "hardly". Even with that in mind, if you stack up all the others like Ide Armin etc. It cannot be said that African nations have been a shining beacon of life and liberty in the years after colonial rule

Is your reality mine?

273kelvin comments on Sep 14, 2019:

My ex was from Malawi and told me about an amusing incident that proves that racism is not confined to whites. Robert Mugabe to the tobacco growers of Zimbabwe ; "I must congratulate you on an excellent harvest. This year you have grown 10% more tobacco than last year. This is good for you and ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 14, 2019:

@MrBeelzeebubbles Could that be any worse than Rwanda?

Is your reality mine?

273kelvin comments on Sep 14, 2019:

My ex was from Malawi and told me about an amusing incident that proves that racism is not confined to whites. Robert Mugabe to the tobacco growers of Zimbabwe ; "I must congratulate you on an excellent harvest. This year you have grown 10% more tobacco than last year. This is good for you and ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 14, 2019:

On a more serious point, it was her that told me in no uncertain terms that many Africans themselves look back upon colonial rule with misty-eyed nostalgia. There is hardly a country in the whole of the continent that has not suffered worse human rights abuses under their black rulers than under whites. Not to mention the massacres, famines, and constant conflicts that trouble the region. So when I read "His life and memory must not be allowed to feed a racist meme of African cruelty and incompetence." I suggest that Mr. Murray get off his liberal white horse and speak to some people on the ground.

We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:

We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 14, 2019:

@Triphid Although obviously not an American. My dad may have fallen into the over-sexed and over here category. Near the end of the war (post VE), it was decided that the British and US fleets would combine operations in the Indian ocean. Dad was a radio operator and the Brits banged out morse code using the old fashioned method. Whereas the yanks typed theirs out as it was faster. Consequently, he was sent to Perth along with a dozen others to learn how to type in the Australian equivalent of the Pitman school. They were billeted in an old rope works with hammocks strung up. Can you imagine a dozen jolly jack tars in a secretarial school? He said to me "Son if I said that I spent one night in that rope works? I would be lying"

Have any of our many US members watched "Peaky blinders".

2muchstupidity comments on Sep 14, 2019:

Of course. I love this show!! I just wish season 6 would have started in the US when it did in the UK. I'm still waiting for it.

273kelvin replies on Sep 14, 2019:

It's season 5 but we are hooked too. Btw much of it is filmed near me next to Ringoes birthplace Not really a spoiler but I suggest that you look up this historical character in preparation for the new series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:

We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 13, 2019:

@Triphid Same here

Dear English; Why does christian have to be capitalized and atheist doesn't? Naughty, naughty!

IamNobody comments on Sep 11, 2019:

On a serious note.... Who cares?

273kelvin replies on Sep 13, 2019:

It is a useful argument against the idiots that claim that atheism is a religion

We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:

We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 13, 2019:

@Triphid, @OwlInASack Btw my father was a submariner in WW2 in the Indian ocean. He had nothing but praise to say about the Australians but less than enthusiastic in regard to the yanks.

We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:

We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 13, 2019:

@Triphid I apologize if I gave the impression that the whole debacle was a myth. What I obviously meant was that it could be all laid at Churchills's feet. Subsequently released archives have cast new light on the affair.

We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...

273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:

We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...

273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:

@Triphid Ah yes the Gallipoli myth. If you look a little closer at the history of it without prejudice. You will discover that Churchill wanted it to be a naval campaign only. (He was 1st sea lord at the time) It was Churchills bitter rival lord Kitchener that pushed for its expansion into a land battle. However, Kitchener died at sea (strange irony there) and they could not make a scapegoat out of a dead hero so Churchill took the fall. He may have been responsible for many dreadful things but I think that that was not one of them.