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We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...
273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:
We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore You and I use words like "fiance" because nearly 1,000 years ago William of Normandy invaded England. Any moral judgments of him, his personal life or reasons would seem rather superfluous now.
And no, you cannot say that the world was better off for having Hitler in it
273kelvin comments on Sep 12, 2019:
We make heroes out of high achievers and gods out of heroes. Then we are suddenly surprised when they turn out to have feet of clay. The phrase "He was no saint" is oft-quoted. If you read about the lives of saints you will find that they were not too nice either. For all their faults they leave ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore You and I use words like "fiance" because nearly 1,000 years ago William of Normandy invaded England. Any moral judgments of him, his personal life or reasons would seem rather superfluous now.
And no, you cannot say that the world was better off for having Hitler in it
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Because slavery was just plain WRONG. The founding fathers acquiesced to the compromise of allowing it but it was a running sore in the side of a country calling itself "The land of the free". You can say that it would have died a natural death but that is with the gift of hindsight. Just as we can say that communism was a deeply flawed system and there was no need to get involved in Korea or Vietnam as they would have come round to our way of thinking given time.
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Because slavery was just plain WRONG. The founding fathers acquiesced to the compromise of allowing it but it was a running sore in the side of a country calling itself "The land of the free". You can say that it would have died a natural death but that is with the gift of hindsight. Just as we can say that communism was a deeply flawed system and there was no need to get involved in Korea or Vietnam as they would have come round to our way of thinking given time.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
AnthonyAus comments on Aug 20, 2019:
And Trump cannot read anyway.
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@69ArizonaJerry To call me a liberal is not an insult it is a badge I wear with honor. As for UK politics, we are as I type, having to deal with the whole right-wing led shambles of Brexit.
In regard to 45, I really don't give a toss what lies he tweets about the people stupid enough to have let into the white house. What put me dead against him was when he lied and insulted MY country. If you have a problem with that then come over and we can duke it out but be sure to use one of those airports that Washington stormed
AnthonyAus comments on Aug 20, 2019:
And Trump cannot read anyway.
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@69ArizonaJerry To call me a liberal is not an insult it is a badge I wear with honor. As for UK politics, we are as I type, having to deal with the whole right-wing led shambles of Brexit.
In regard to 45, I really don't give a toss what lies he tweets about the people stupid enough to have let into the white house. What put me dead against him was when he lied and insulted MY country. If you have a problem with that then come over and we can duke it out but be sure to use one of those airports that Washington stormed
We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...
Cast1es comments on Sep 12, 2019:
While you are viewing this from a national./ international point of view , things also work this way on the very personnel level . How many out there , have dated / married someone with a horrible story about their ex . , only to learn later that the half of the story you'd been given either left ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
I met a girl called Pam who told me horrible stories about her ex. About the same time or just a little later I met a guy called Paul. It took me a year to link the two people into one.
PS. I now have nothing to do with Pam b/c as you may have guessed she is a lying narcissist.
Cast1es comments on Sep 12, 2019:
While you are viewing this from a national./ international point of view , things also work this way on the very personnel level . How many out there , have dated / married someone with a horrible story about their ex . , only to learn later that the half of the story you'd been given either left ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
I met a girl called Pam who told me horrible stories about her ex. About the same time or just a little later I met a guy called Paul. It took me a year to link the two people into one.
PS. I now have nothing to do with Pam b/c as you may have guessed she is a lying narcissist.
We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...
Spongebob comments on Sep 12, 2019:
While I agree in general, I do not agree with some examples you have provided. Tesla is by no means a footnote. He was popular during his times and remains so. His fault was probably in the business end of his inventions. Edison certainly doesn't deserve being called a theif. He was an inspirational...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
The only thing we can say that Edison invented for sure by himself and not any of his team was "Hello". Before the word was coined by him Bell used "Ahoy hoy" to answer the phone (watch out for that joke when Mr Burns uses it in the Simpsons).
Spongebob comments on Sep 12, 2019:
While I agree in general, I do not agree with some examples you have provided. Tesla is by no means a footnote. He was popular during his times and remains so. His fault was probably in the business end of his inventions. Edison certainly doesn't deserve being called a theif. He was an inspirational...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
The only thing we can say that Edison invented for sure by himself and not any of his team was "Hello". Before the word was coined by him Bell used "Ahoy hoy" to answer the phone (watch out for that joke when Mr Burns uses it in the Simpsons).
We so often learn far too late than the heroes of history were actually horrible people, and the ...
silverotter11 comments on Sep 12, 2019:
To the victor goes the spoils. To curry favor with who ever is in power is the bottom line. We see it play out every figging day with trump!
If you have a parent that questions what you are learning in school it really helps. My Dad told me about Tesla and his contribution to so much we take for...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@LadyAlyxandrea Martin Luther Kings wife used to walk into a lot of doors
silverotter11 comments on Sep 12, 2019:
To the victor goes the spoils. To curry favor with who ever is in power is the bottom line. We see it play out every figging day with trump!
If you have a parent that questions what you are learning in school it really helps. My Dad told me about Tesla and his contribution to so much we take for...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@LadyAlyxandrea Martin Luther Kings wife used to walk into a lot of doors
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Let me get this straight. You're saying that by not allowing the expansion of an evil practice (and I assume that we can agree that it was evil) and merely holding to the status quo. Lincoln "forced" the southern states to secede and it was all his fault, not theirs?
That is like saying that it was the US political opposition to Japanese expansion that forced them to attack Pearl Harbor
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Let me get this straight. You're saying that by not allowing the expansion of an evil practice (and I assume that we can agree that it was evil) and merely holding to the status quo. Lincoln "forced" the southern states to secede and it was all his fault, not theirs?
That is like saying that it was the US political opposition to Japanese expansion that forced them to attack Pearl Harbor
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 You could have said the same thing about the cold war
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 You could have said the same thing about the cold war
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Yes I know. So it was not slavery as such but the expansion of slavery in the US was his case. It does not sound much like it going anywhere quickly. Even though it was a whole generation after Britain and the rest of the civilized world had already outlawed the barbaric practice. 10% of the population is lot of people but what of the % of the population that was not classed as people but as property. What about their lives?
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Yes I know. So it was not slavery as such but the expansion of slavery in the US was his case. It does not sound much like it going anywhere quickly. Even though it was a whole generation after Britain and the rest of the civilized world had already outlawed the barbaric practice. 10% of the population is lot of people but what of the % of the population that was not classed as people but as property. What about their lives?
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 A Trump supporter takes issue about Lincoln's harsh rhetoric. It is a shame that you yanks don't really get irony
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 A Trump supporter takes issue about Lincoln's harsh rhetoric. It is a shame that you yanks don't really get irony
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 You said AOCI, not AOC. and btw I thought that the questions she asked about vested interests and lobbying were brilliant. Any citizen who would want their representative to look after their interests and not those of some big moneyed donor would applaud that.
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 You said AOCI, not AOC. and btw I thought that the questions she asked about vested interests and lobbying were brilliant. Any citizen who would want their representative to look after their interests and not those of some big moneyed donor would applaud that.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@69ArizonaJerry The man was elected to represent ALL of the united states of America. Not just the people who voted for him. So when for example he calls Baltimore "A shithole", he brings the office of the president into disrepute. Similarly when he slags off his political opponents by saying they should go back to their own country, even if 3/4 of them had more right to be there than his wife. It is not just him that is saying that it is the whole of the USA and it is the USA that is insulted. I well understand the short term gains that he hoped to achieve by these divisive tactics but it is a highly dangerous game. Whilst it may bring certain factions closer to him. It will alienate many more. As a president far better than him once said "A house divided upon itself, cannot stand"
Say an Olympic sportsman gets involved in a drunken brawl. The officials and press quite rightly say "You have are not just representing yourself but your country as well and you have brought dishonor upon it" I can tell you that most of the world looks upon your head of state as a spoilt, petulant, bullying brat. If you think thats okay and "presidential"? Then you deserve all you get up to and including ridicule.
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@69ArizonaJerry The man was elected to represent ALL of the united states of America. Not just the people who voted for him. So when for example he calls Baltimore "A shithole", he brings the office of the president into disrepute. Similarly when he slags off his political opponents by saying they should go back to their own country, even if 3/4 of them had more right to be there than his wife. It is not just him that is saying that it is the whole of the USA and it is the USA that is insulted. I well understand the short term gains that he hoped to achieve by these divisive tactics but it is a highly dangerous game. Whilst it may bring certain factions closer to him. It will alienate many more. As a president far better than him once said "A house divided upon itself, cannot stand"
Say an Olympic sportsman gets involved in a drunken brawl. The officials and press quite rightly say "You have are not just representing yourself but your country as well and you have brought dishonor upon it" I can tell you that most of the world looks upon your head of state as a spoilt, petulant, bullying brat. If you think thats okay and "presidential"? Then you deserve all you get up to and including ridicule.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Btw I looked up AOCI and all I could find was some accounting thing. Can you enlighten me, please?
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 Btw I looked up AOCI and all I could find was some accounting thing. Can you enlighten me, please?
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 It really should not be such a surprise that people who do not blindly follow the religious path would be less likely to follow the religious right of the republican party.
As to respect, it has always been my opinion that it is a 2-way street. Yes, a certain amount of respect is due to someone's position. Be they an officer of the law/armed forces, a doctor/nurse, etc.and a head of state is automatically due some of that. However, 45 has abused that office on so many occasions. In his time he has insulted the disabled, war veterans, women, immigrants, the press, his predecessor in the oval office MY COUNTRY!! and basically anyone who was not a Trump supporter. To my mind, people on this site and elsewhere would have a lot more respect for the office if HE respected it more. You cannot sit on the toilet all night slagging off everyone you don't like on twitter and then expect to get respect. If he kept his foul mouth to himself and acted more like a president. People would treat him more like one.
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 It really should not be such a surprise that people who do not blindly follow the religious path would be less likely to follow the religious right of the republican party.
As to respect, it has always been my opinion that it is a 2-way street. Yes, a certain amount of respect is due to someone's position. Be they an officer of the law/armed forces, a doctor/nurse, etc.and a head of state is automatically due some of that. However, 45 has abused that office on so many occasions. In his time he has insulted the disabled, war veterans, women, immigrants, the press, his predecessor in the oval office MY COUNTRY!! and basically anyone who was not a Trump supporter. To my mind, people on this site and elsewhere would have a lot more respect for the office if HE respected it more. You cannot sit on the toilet all night slagging off everyone you don't like on twitter and then expect to get respect. If he kept his foul mouth to himself and acted more like a president. People would treat him more like one.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 I agree that welfare is open to abuses. As someone that has been on both sides I have paid my taxes and at times received benefits until I got back on my feet. I can say that it is no picnic and from what I hear the US system is harsher.
Let us look at those hard-working people who have to pay taxes. I picked a blue-collar job at random of a bus driver. Salaries vary but the USA pays on ave about $30.000 pa. Under Trump, that person is paying MORE of their hard-earned money in tax not less. His tax breaks are incremental and heavily favor the highest incomes.
Now are am quite sure that those bus drivers would love to be part of the higher-end tax breaks but their republican representatives continually block any and all attempts to raise the minimum wage.
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 12, 2019:
@Trajan61 I agree that welfare is open to abuses. As someone that has been on both sides I have paid my taxes and at times received benefits until I got back on my feet. I can say that it is no picnic and from what I hear the US system is harsher.
Let us look at those hard-working people who have to pay taxes. I picked a blue-collar job at random of a bus driver. Salaries vary but the USA pays on ave about $30.000 pa. Under Trump, that person is paying MORE of their hard-earned money in tax not less. His tax breaks are incremental and heavily favor the highest incomes.
Now are am quite sure that those bus drivers would love to be part of the higher-end tax breaks but their republican representatives continually block any and all attempts to raise the minimum wage.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 11, 2019:
@Trajan61 Like I said I'm a pragmatist and going on his track record rather than his politics. The bankruptcies that have left contractors high and dry. Plus it seems an awful lot of his staff end up in jail. So I would count my fingers and see if I still had all my rings left after any handshake. But you make your own decisions.
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 11, 2019:
@Trajan61 Like I said I'm a pragmatist and going on his track record rather than his politics. The bankruptcies that have left contractors high and dry. Plus it seems an awful lot of his staff end up in jail. So I would count my fingers and see if I still had all my rings left after any handshake. But you make your own decisions.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
@Trajan61 Lies are part of it but Trump takes the piss. I read somewhere that Obama was about 20% lies whereas 45 is around 68%.
You still haven't answered me. Would you trust him enough to do business with him?
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
@Trajan61 Lies are part of it but Trump takes the piss. I read somewhere that Obama was about 20% lies whereas 45 is around 68%.
You still haven't answered me. Would you trust him enough to do business with him?
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
@Trajan61 I looked up the odds after my comment and although he is favorite it is not by much. $110 to win $100. Considering my aforementioned form guide that is quite lamentable and the Dems haven't even picked a candidate yet.
Okay, I believe you when you talk about honor. So can I ask you how you feel about Trump's lies, and bankruptcies? Would you do business with the man?
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
@Trajan61 I looked up the odds after my comment and although he is favorite it is not by much. $110 to win $100. Considering my aforementioned form guide that is quite lamentable and the Dems haven't even picked a candidate yet.
Okay, I believe you when you talk about honor. So can I ask you how you feel about Trump's lies, and bankruptcies? Would you do business with the man?
Have any of our many US members watched "Peaky blinders".
Cutiebeauty comments on Sep 10, 2019:
I haven't seen it..
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
P.S. a lot of it was filmed near me next to Ringos birthplace. The houses were due for demolition/renovation so they blacked out the windows and CGI ed a lot of overhead gantries etc.
Cutiebeauty comments on Sep 10, 2019:
I haven't seen it..
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
P.S. a lot of it was filmed near me next to Ringos birthplace. The houses were due for demolition/renovation so they blacked out the windows and CGI ed a lot of overhead gantries etc.
Have any of our many US members watched "Peaky blinders".
Cutiebeauty comments on Sep 10, 2019:
I haven't seen it..
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
Give it a go, it catches you right from the Nick Cave opening credits theme
Cutiebeauty comments on Sep 10, 2019:
I haven't seen it..
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
Give it a go, it catches you right from the Nick Cave opening credits theme
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
@Trajan61 So Oklahomans did not vote for Hillary Clinton? Wow, I am shocked! I have not been this surprised since I found out that Freddie Mercury was gay. This is what you base how great 45 is? He took on the most distrusted and hated politician in America and could not even win the popular vote. That's like saying "I beat Stephen Hawking in a fight"
So how will he do in 2020? Well, he has the advantage in the incumbent. This is a huge home-court advantage. Since the 2 terms only amendment, only 2 elected incumbents have lost reelection. Carter and Bush senior. The ones that won are Ike, Nixon, Regan, Clinton, G.W., and Obama. That puts the form as 6-2 on or 3-1 on. Irrespective of political stances. The US system is rather like going into a bar and challenging the toughest guy to a fight but he has to prove that he really is the toughest guy. So everyone dukes it out and then you take on the battered and bloody winner.
Do you think that Trump is better than 1-3? If so I will take that bet. We could exchange funds via any online betting site but unfortunately, you are not allowed to do this in the land of the free. So let us use what may seem an alien concept to a Trump supporter, called honor. (Honesty is obviously not seen as any value).
You put up what you can afford to lose (that must be quite a lot seeing as 45 has been so good to you) and I will match it by a 1/3 winner take all.
Are we on?
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 10, 2019:
@Trajan61 So Oklahomans did not vote for Hillary Clinton? Wow, I am shocked! I have not been this surprised since I found out that Freddie Mercury was gay. This is what you base how great 45 is? He took on the most distrusted and hated politician in America and could not even win the popular vote. That's like saying "I beat Stephen Hawking in a fight"
So how will he do in 2020? Well, he has the advantage in the incumbent. This is a huge home-court advantage. Since the 2 terms only amendment, only 2 elected incumbents have lost reelection. Carter and Bush senior. The ones that won are Ike, Nixon, Regan, Clinton, G.W., and Obama. That puts the form as 6-2 on or 3-1 on. Irrespective of political stances. The US system is rather like going into a bar and challenging the toughest guy to a fight but he has to prove that he really is the toughest guy. So everyone dukes it out and then you take on the battered and bloody winner.
Do you think that Trump is better than 1-3? If so I will take that bet. We could exchange funds via any online betting site but unfortunately, you are not allowed to do this in the land of the free. So let us use what may seem an alien concept to a Trump supporter, called honor. (Honesty is obviously not seen as any value).
You put up what you can afford to lose (that must be quite a lot seeing as 45 has been so good to you) and I will match it by a 1/3 winner take all.
Are we on?
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 "Oil and gas and beef are the number one source of income here..and seeing as the looney democraps want to do away with both." Okay, I'm no mathematician but I count 3 and they`re idiots????
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 "Oil and gas and beef are the number one source of income here..and seeing as the looney democraps want to do away with both." Okay, I'm no mathematician but I count 3 and they`re idiots????
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 Its in my comment read it
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 Its in my comment read it
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 "Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats"
or
"In my books IQ doesn’t count for that much"
You sound as contradictory and full of crap as him
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 "Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats"
or
"In my books IQ doesn’t count for that much"
You sound as contradictory and full of crap as him
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 Okay let's talk facts and not opinion. Obama inherited the worst economic crash since the 1930s. I would like to blame G. W. for this but there was one due around 2001 and after 9/11 he could not let the economy tank as well. So he kicked it down the road. Any leader would have done the same but the trouble with putting things off is they only get worse.
So it really would not have mattered who you had in the west wing. You would have had it bad anyway. As did the rest of the world. At least you had a leader that was respected. That goes a long way in terms of soft power. The guy tried to get you decent health care. Not before time as from what I read your system is incredibly inefficient. Not just the $700 for a $7 vial of insulin although that is bad enough. But the waste of human resources. If I get sick I just go to the doctor and think nothing of it, other than getting better. You guys have to worry whether your insurance (if you have any) will cover it. It is (again from what I read) the biggest cause of bankruptcy in the USA. And you vilify the guy that tried to help you out, go figure.
Firstly I must state that although you might think that I am a leftie. In my yard, I count as right-wing. Truth be told I am a pragmatist. Whoever is best for the job gets my vote
Now let's have a look at the republicans. In my lifetime you have elected in order.
A crook
A B-movie star
A spy
An ex-alcoholic idiot son
A reality TV star (4 times bankrupt)
Of the 5 the spy was the best of the bunch. Now your politics is your business and I would be loth to comment. However, 45 has poked his nose into UK politics too often for me to take a back seat. His comments on how Brexit would be "great for the UK" would be enough. (What he meant was that it will give the US a chance of selling us food without all those pesky EU regs that stop rat hairs in pasta, pus in milk and chlorinated chicken. Don't your politicians do a great job of looking out for you?) What really tipped the balance was when he re-tweeted a false video from a far-right group EDL. He made a big splash on how "Muslims are taking over the UK and there are no-go areas." The vid was in fact from Holland and not a Muslim after all. Did we get an apology, a retraction or anything? did we shite as like? No, he just goes on and on spouting crap and not caring what damage it does.
Well, you might think that he is good for Oklahoma (although I hear that the Chinese tariffs are hitting your farmers). But he ain't that good for the US of A as a whole and one day soon he will piss off too many people and the rest of the world might ask you to pay your debts. Do you have a spare $180.000? Because thats what each US household owes.
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 Okay let's talk facts and not opinion. Obama inherited the worst economic crash since the 1930s. I would like to blame G. W. for this but there was one due around 2001 and after 9/11 he could not let the economy tank as well. So he kicked it down the road. Any leader would have done the same but the trouble with putting things off is they only get worse.
So it really would not have mattered who you had in the west wing. You would have had it bad anyway. As did the rest of the world. At least you had a leader that was respected. That goes a long way in terms of soft power. The guy tried to get you decent health care. Not before time as from what I read your system is incredibly inefficient. Not just the $700 for a $7 vial of insulin although that is bad enough. But the waste of human resources. If I get sick I just go to the doctor and think nothing of it, other than getting better. You guys have to worry whether your insurance (if you have any) will cover it. It is (again from what I read) the biggest cause of bankruptcy in the USA. And you vilify the guy that tried to help you out, go figure.
Firstly I must state that although you might think that I am a leftie. In my yard, I count as right-wing. Truth be told I am a pragmatist. Whoever is best for the job gets my vote
Now let's have a look at the republicans. In my lifetime you have elected in order.
A crook
A B-movie star
A spy
An ex-alcoholic idiot son
A reality TV star (4 times bankrupt)
Of the 5 the spy was the best of the bunch. Now your politics is your business and I would be loth to comment. However, 45 has poked his nose into UK politics too often for me to take a back seat. His comments on how Brexit would be "great for the UK" would be enough. (What he meant was that it will give the US a chance of selling us food without all those pesky EU regs that stop rat hairs in pasta, pus in milk and chlorinated chicken. Don't your politicians do a great job of looking out for you?) What really tipped the balance was when he re-tweeted a false video from a far-right group EDL. He made a big splash on how "Muslims are taking over the UK and there are no-go areas." The vid was in fact from Holland and not a Muslim after all. Did we get an apology, a retraction or anything? did we shite as like? No, he just goes on and on spouting crap and not caring what damage it does.
Well, you might think that he is good for Oklahoma (although I hear that the Chinese tariffs are hitting your farmers). But he ain't that good for the US of A as a whole and one day soon he will piss off too many people and the rest of the world might ask you to pay your debts. Do you have a spare $180.000? Because thats what each US household owes.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 As did I look and all I could find was in those links. Just a piece of advice, if I were you I would not ask anyone on this site to take something on faith.
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 As did I look and all I could find was in those links. Just a piece of advice, if I were you I would not ask anyone on this site to take something on faith.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 So you say something and instead of backing it up or back down because it is obviously nonsense. You say that it does not matter because..... Where have I heard that kind of rhetoric before? Let me think...
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
@Trajan61 So you say something and instead of backing it up or back down because it is obviously nonsense. You say that it does not matter because..... Where have I heard that kind of rhetoric before? Let me think...
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
Your silence speaks volumes
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 9, 2019:
Your silence speaks volumes
You can reason but it goes over their heads, as does subtle humour.
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 Or honest
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 Or honest
If i could just get rid of this peeing thing that happens at like 2 in the morning thing and relieve...
Heathenman comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Okay. Ladies don't read this unless you really want to get grossed out.
If you're a lady and you are still reading, thank you, your my kinda gal.
Now go away.
Okay dude. Sometimes I have the same problem. Never know when it is going to happen. I wake up pee and go back to bed, but ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@RavenCT More of a problem for ladies at festivals. As the default solution is a used plastic glass. You have to be careful not to reuse them
Heathenman comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Okay. Ladies don't read this unless you really want to get grossed out.
If you're a lady and you are still reading, thank you, your my kinda gal.
Now go away.
Okay dude. Sometimes I have the same problem. Never know when it is going to happen. I wake up pee and go back to bed, but ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@RavenCT More of a problem for ladies at festivals. As the default solution is a used plastic glass. You have to be careful not to reuse them
If i could just get rid of this peeing thing that happens at like 2 in the morning thing and relieve...
Heathenman comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Okay. Ladies don't read this unless you really want to get grossed out.
If you're a lady and you are still reading, thank you, your my kinda gal.
Now go away.
Okay dude. Sometimes I have the same problem. Never know when it is going to happen. I wake up pee and go back to bed, but ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@RavenCT Its a clear milk bottle not a tissue
Heathenman comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Okay. Ladies don't read this unless you really want to get grossed out.
If you're a lady and you are still reading, thank you, your my kinda gal.
Now go away.
Okay dude. Sometimes I have the same problem. Never know when it is going to happen. I wake up pee and go back to bed, but ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@RavenCT Its a clear milk bottle not a tissue
You can reason but it goes over their heads, as does subtle humour.
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 Firstly, I apologize for using the phrase "Trust me". I will refrain from using it in the future.
The Irish backstop from what I understand has nothing to do with the Euro.
Let me try and explain. Imagine if Canada was once part of the USA but fought its independence. A compromise solution was reached leaving the borders as they now stand with Alaska stuck on the end. Factions in Canada and Alaska were not happy with this and continued to mount a terrorist war both in Alaska and in the US mainland.
Then both countries sign up to a North American trade pact which includes Mexico, Panama, Cuba, and Puerto Rico. This allows not only goods but a free movement of labor.
A peace accord is worked out between the USA and Canada with states that the border with Alaska will remain open. This is greatly facilitated by the trade pact.
Then the USA votes to leave the trade pact. (Incidentally, none of the campaigners on either side of the vote mentions the Alaska problem).
Now add to this the chaotic political situation in Alaska. Unlike the USA which is mostly a 2 party system. Alaska has 4 parties broadly split between US or Canadian sympathies. Unfortunately, the state legislature has not sat for 4 years due to a dispute between the warring factions and the largest pro-Canadian party will not send any representatives to Washington as they refuse to pledge allegiance.
An election is held in the US after the decision to leave the pact. But there is no clear majority in the electoral college. So an alliance is formed between the Pro US Alaskan party (Unionist) and the republican party to form a govt. However, the Unionist party will not agree to any arrangement where Alaska is subject to different rules than the US. Hence the backstop but the Unionists will not have a de-facto border between them and the US. So any arrangement will have to be binding on all of the states.
Now we have a situation where the USA is committed to both leaving the pact and an open border with Alaska/Canada. So negotiations with the pact are entered into and a "backstop" solution is reached. This states the status quo will remain until such time as a full trade agreement with the pact and USA is reached. But it will be the pact that decides when that is. In the meantime, the USA will be subject to all existing and future pact regulations but will NOT have any say in the drafting of these.
Now as you can imagine, the factions who wanted to leave see this as a betrayal of their trust. It is to them the equivalent of a divorce where you still pay the bills but sleep in the garage.
So the idea of a no-deal is thought of as the only solution. Basically a fuck-it move, in which instead of a negotiated divorce. You shred the marriage certificate and walk away. ...
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 Firstly, I apologize for using the phrase "Trust me". I will refrain from using it in the future.
The Irish backstop from what I understand has nothing to do with the Euro.
Let me try and explain. Imagine if Canada was once part of the USA but fought its independence. A compromise solution was reached leaving the borders as they now stand with Alaska stuck on the end. Factions in Canada and Alaska were not happy with this and continued to mount a terrorist war both in Alaska and in the US mainland.
Then both countries sign up to a North American trade pact which includes Mexico, Panama, Cuba, and Puerto Rico. This allows not only goods but a free movement of labor.
A peace accord is worked out between the USA and Canada with states that the border with Alaska will remain open. This is greatly facilitated by the trade pact.
Then the USA votes to leave the trade pact. (Incidentally, none of the campaigners on either side of the vote mentions the Alaska problem).
Now add to this the chaotic political situation in Alaska. Unlike the USA which is mostly a 2 party system. Alaska has 4 parties broadly split between US or Canadian sympathies. Unfortunately, the state legislature has not sat for 4 years due to a dispute between the warring factions and the largest pro-Canadian party will not send any representatives to Washington as they refuse to pledge allegiance.
An election is held in the US after the decision to leave the pact. But there is no clear majority in the electoral college. So an alliance is formed between the Pro US Alaskan party (Unionist) and the republican party to form a govt. However, the Unionist party will not agree to any arrangement where Alaska is subject to different rules than the US. Hence the backstop but the Unionists will not have a de-facto border between them and the US. So any arrangement will have to be binding on all of the states.
Now we have a situation where the USA is committed to both leaving the pact and an open border with Alaska/Canada. So negotiations with the pact are entered into and a "backstop" solution is reached. This states the status quo will remain until such time as a full trade agreement with the pact and USA is reached. But it will be the pact that decides when that is. In the meantime, the USA will be subject to all existing and future pact regulations but will NOT have any say in the drafting of these.
Now as you can imagine, the factions who wanted to leave see this as a betrayal of their trust. It is to them the equivalent of a divorce where you still pay the bills but sleep in the garage.
So the idea of a no-deal is thought of as the only solution. Basically a fuck-it move, in which instead of a negotiated divorce. You shred the marriage certificate and walk away. ...
You can reason but it goes over their heads, as does subtle humour.
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 But it started with Brexit and is now exacerbated by the imminent prospect of a no-deal exit
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 But it started with Brexit and is now exacerbated by the imminent prospect of a no-deal exit
If i could just get rid of this peeing thing that happens at like 2 in the morning thing and relieve...
Heathenman comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Okay. Ladies don't read this unless you really want to get grossed out.
If you're a lady and you are still reading, thank you, your my kinda gal.
Now go away.
Okay dude. Sometimes I have the same problem. Never know when it is going to happen. I wake up pee and go back to bed, but ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
I've done a similar thing at festivals with a plastic milk bottle
Heathenman comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Okay. Ladies don't read this unless you really want to get grossed out.
If you're a lady and you are still reading, thank you, your my kinda gal.
Now go away.
Okay dude. Sometimes I have the same problem. Never know when it is going to happen. I wake up pee and go back to bed, but ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 7, 2019:
I've done a similar thing at festivals with a plastic milk bottle
A list of Ten Classic British Films that had Incredibly bad Hollywood remakes
Alfie (2004 / 1966)...
273kelvin comments on Sep 6, 2019:
I have to say that I liked the ladykiller's remake. I don't normally like second-hand films but the Coen bros did a great job. Tom Hanks filled Alister Sims' shoes very well and the jokes made me laugh. Which tbh I don't do much at films I watch on my own.
All the rest I would agree are crap ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@LenHazell53 Yes you are right
273kelvin comments on Sep 6, 2019:
I have to say that I liked the ladykiller's remake. I don't normally like second-hand films but the Coen bros did a great job. Tom Hanks filled Alister Sims' shoes very well and the jokes made me laugh. Which tbh I don't do much at films I watch on my own.
All the rest I would agree are crap ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@LenHazell53 Yes you are right
You can reason but it goes over their heads, as does subtle humour.
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 All right don't trust me but the man is mostly responsible for the biggest constitutional catastrophe in hundreds of years. Whilst he and his upper-crust friends invest all their money overseas. The pound has plummeted from 1.6 Euros to parity. In the meantime, I see homeless people in every vacant shop doorway due to Tory austerity and welfare reform. But things are due to get worse as a no-deal Brexit will according to most experts lead to logistical log-jam of biblical proportions. Food, medicine and you name it will be in short supply. Not to mention all of the lost future investments. The guy was not even anti-EU until the referendum, he just jumped on the bandwagon to have a shot at the top job.
Add to that all the racist remarks. Terms like "Bong-bongo land" "Piccaninny" and describing muslem women as "Looking like letterboxes or bankrobers". As foreign secretary, he deftly managed to get an innocent woman banged up for an extra 18 months in an Arab jail. But hey ho don't trust me when I say he`s a cunt
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@WonderWartHog99 All right don't trust me but the man is mostly responsible for the biggest constitutional catastrophe in hundreds of years. Whilst he and his upper-crust friends invest all their money overseas. The pound has plummeted from 1.6 Euros to parity. In the meantime, I see homeless people in every vacant shop doorway due to Tory austerity and welfare reform. But things are due to get worse as a no-deal Brexit will according to most experts lead to logistical log-jam of biblical proportions. Food, medicine and you name it will be in short supply. Not to mention all of the lost future investments. The guy was not even anti-EU until the referendum, he just jumped on the bandwagon to have a shot at the top job.
Add to that all the racist remarks. Terms like "Bong-bongo land" "Piccaninny" and describing muslem women as "Looking like letterboxes or bankrobers". As foreign secretary, he deftly managed to get an innocent woman banged up for an extra 18 months in an Arab jail. But hey ho don't trust me when I say he`s a cunt
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
An interesting thing about IQ. They did tests on cats in Spain to measure their IQ (How you measure this is beyond me but I suppose that it is possible). They found that domestic cats have about 20% less than wild ones.
With that in mind. Do you think that someone who bypassed their entrance exams to college because their dad bought them in? Would beat a student from a single mother who HAD to win scholarships in order to study. Who is on record with an IQ of 155? (Making him 8th in presidential smarty pants.)
What would the Vegas odds be? If you still want to bet on 45? Then I really want you at my poker table.
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
An interesting thing about IQ. They did tests on cats in Spain to measure their IQ (How you measure this is beyond me but I suppose that it is possible). They found that domestic cats have about 20% less than wild ones.
With that in mind. Do you think that someone who bypassed their entrance exams to college because their dad bought them in? Would beat a student from a single mother who HAD to win scholarships in order to study. Who is on record with an IQ of 155? (Making him 8th in presidential smarty pants.)
What would the Vegas odds be? If you still want to bet on 45? Then I really want you at my poker table.
Does anyone else think Boris Johnson is now out of his depth, floundering and making one blunder ...
LetzGetReal comments on Sep 6, 2019:
From the outside, I agree, he is a making of his own mess. AND I wish we had a form of Parliament in the US for obvious reasons!
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@Heidi68 You could say something like "I hear that wind farms can cause cancer" because that technically is not lying but you cannot say "I did not try and get X fired from this investigation". If it got proven that you did, you would face very severe sanctions.
This only covers what you tell the house. It does not encompass outside of parliament.
LetzGetReal comments on Sep 6, 2019:
From the outside, I agree, he is a making of his own mess. AND I wish we had a form of Parliament in the US for obvious reasons!
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@Heidi68 You could say something like "I hear that wind farms can cause cancer" because that technically is not lying but you cannot say "I did not try and get X fired from this investigation". If it got proven that you did, you would face very severe sanctions.
This only covers what you tell the house. It does not encompass outside of parliament.
Does anyone else think Boris Johnson is now out of his depth, floundering and making one blunder ...
LetzGetReal comments on Sep 6, 2019:
From the outside, I agree, he is a making of his own mess. AND I wish we had a form of Parliament in the US for obvious reasons!
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@davknight Yes, it can get a bit like two opposing football crowds. However, not only the leader but the senior ministers also have to face questions too. They do not have to answer them. They can fudge, accuse the opposition, etc. but they cannot lie. The house and de-facto country can make an assessment of their progress accordingly.
LetzGetReal comments on Sep 6, 2019:
From the outside, I agree, he is a making of his own mess. AND I wish we had a form of Parliament in the US for obvious reasons!
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@davknight Yes, it can get a bit like two opposing football crowds. However, not only the leader but the senior ministers also have to face questions too. They do not have to answer them. They can fudge, accuse the opposition, etc. but they cannot lie. The house and de-facto country can make an assessment of their progress accordingly.
Does anyone else think Boris Johnson is now out of his depth, floundering and making one blunder ...
LetzGetReal comments on Sep 6, 2019:
From the outside, I agree, he is a making of his own mess. AND I wish we had a form of Parliament in the US for obvious reasons!
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@davknight Just a few points. The PM can stand down or be voted out by a no-confidence vote in parliament or by there own party. as happened to Margaret Thatcher (Ok she resigned but only after it was obvious that she would lose).
The main difference between the two systems is ours is much more adversarial and dialectic. The Govt sits opposite the other parties in the chamber at a distance of 2 sword lengths. Each week whilst Parl. is in session, the PM must address the house and answer questions Rather than the yearly state of the union address. Can you imagine Trump having to face Pelosi and other congress members on a weekly basis in a debate?
LetzGetReal comments on Sep 6, 2019:
From the outside, I agree, he is a making of his own mess. AND I wish we had a form of Parliament in the US for obvious reasons!
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
@davknight Just a few points. The PM can stand down or be voted out by a no-confidence vote in parliament or by there own party. as happened to Margaret Thatcher (Ok she resigned but only after it was obvious that she would lose).
The main difference between the two systems is ours is much more adversarial and dialectic. The Govt sits opposite the other parties in the chamber at a distance of 2 sword lengths. Each week whilst Parl. is in session, the PM must address the house and answer questions Rather than the yearly state of the union address. Can you imagine Trump having to face Pelosi and other congress members on a weekly basis in a debate?
Does anyone else think Boris Johnson is now out of his depth, floundering and making one blunder ...
Petter comments on Sep 6, 2019:
And if the government resigns? What then? Can any other party/parties form a government. Could they even agree on who would hold what political offices, let alone be Prime Minister?
The likely outcome would have to be a MANDATORY general election, after having even more time and money wasting. How...
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
If the govt resigns a temporary govt of national unity could be formed by opposition groups. This would not have to have Corbyn at the head but probably would. It may be formed on the strict understanding that it is only there to halt a no-deal exit and to call an election soon after that had been atchieved
Petter comments on Sep 6, 2019:
And if the government resigns? What then? Can any other party/parties form a government. Could they even agree on who would hold what political offices, let alone be Prime Minister?
The likely outcome would have to be a MANDATORY general election, after having even more time and money wasting. How...
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
If the govt resigns a temporary govt of national unity could be formed by opposition groups. This would not have to have Corbyn at the head but probably would. It may be formed on the strict understanding that it is only there to halt a no-deal exit and to call an election soon after that had been atchieved
Does anyone else think Boris Johnson is now out of his depth, floundering and making one blunder ...
MrBeelzeebubbles comments on Sep 6, 2019:
One of my pet peeves is how blatantly pro Tory the BBC has become. Boris' performance at question time was shambolic - Corbyn ran rings around him. You'd never know it if you only watched the Beeb.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
They not pro-Tory, just anti-Corbyn, there is a difference.
MrBeelzeebubbles comments on Sep 6, 2019:
One of my pet peeves is how blatantly pro Tory the BBC has become. Boris' performance at question time was shambolic - Corbyn ran rings around him. You'd never know it if you only watched the Beeb.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
They not pro-Tory, just anti-Corbyn, there is a difference.
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
Excuse me but on what evidence do you base that statement? He certainly did say that he had a higher IQ than Obama but then he says a lot of things like "I am a stable genius" "Wind farms can cause cancer" and let us not forget "When George Washington stormed the airports". So you will forgive me if I fact-check this a little.
Here is what a quick search pulled up. Rather like his tax returns, he has never published his IQ and has gone to great lengths not have it published, so we can only surmise.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-donald-trumps-iq-heres-7983558
https://www.politico.eu/article/stable-genius-donald-trump-iq-fixation/
One thing that does seem odd is his obsession with it. A bit like a friend constantly saying that he is straight or has a big appendage. Methinks that he doth protest too much.
But hey, I might be wrong. Maybe that sad sack in the bar all day really was a navy seal.
Trajan61 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Trump has a higher IQ than Obama or for that matter most of the democrats. Comparing Trump with Hitler is absurd. Hitler was a ruthless dictator who killed millions.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
Excuse me but on what evidence do you base that statement? He certainly did say that he had a higher IQ than Obama but then he says a lot of things like "I am a stable genius" "Wind farms can cause cancer" and let us not forget "When George Washington stormed the airports". So you will forgive me if I fact-check this a little.
Here is what a quick search pulled up. Rather like his tax returns, he has never published his IQ and has gone to great lengths not have it published, so we can only surmise.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-donald-trumps-iq-heres-7983558
https://www.politico.eu/article/stable-genius-donald-trump-iq-fixation/
One thing that does seem odd is his obsession with it. A bit like a friend constantly saying that he is straight or has a big appendage. Methinks that he doth protest too much.
But hey, I might be wrong. Maybe that sad sack in the bar all day really was a navy seal.
You can reason but it goes over their heads, as does subtle humour.
KKGator comments on Sep 6, 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
A song that the BBC forbade being played following the demise of Margret Thatcher
KKGator comments on Sep 6, 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
A song that the BBC forbade being played following the demise of Margret Thatcher
You can reason but it goes over their heads, as does subtle humour.
mcgeo52 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Since you asked:
https://youtu.be/P-219jrlCiQ
https://youtu.be/gKLBx7-cg_o
https://youtu.be/9NVQ2aeVmXE
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
Good but not very catchy. May I suggest "Donald Trump is a racist cunt" sung to the tune of "You can't always get what you want". Which he seems to play at all his rallies.
A large contingent chanting this outside might throw a wrench into the works
mcgeo52 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
Since you asked:
https://youtu.be/P-219jrlCiQ
https://youtu.be/gKLBx7-cg_o
https://youtu.be/9NVQ2aeVmXE
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
Good but not very catchy. May I suggest "Donald Trump is a racist cunt" sung to the tune of "You can't always get what you want". Which he seems to play at all his rallies.
A large contingent chanting this outside might throw a wrench into the works
You can reason but it goes over their heads, as does subtle humour.
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
Firstly you say that like its a bad thing and we all know that swearing IS big and clever.
Secondly, as I stated, it is counterproductive to aim high with people whose IQ struggles to make 3 figures. Far easier and more cost-effective to go for the jugular using plain English.
Trust me, I live here and can vouchsafe that Boris really is a c...
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 6, 2019:
## Just another excuse to use a common vulgarity.
273kelvin replies on Sep 6, 2019:
Firstly you say that like its a bad thing and we all know that swearing IS big and clever.
Secondly, as I stated, it is counterproductive to aim high with people whose IQ struggles to make 3 figures. Far easier and more cost-effective to go for the jugular using plain English.
Trust me, I live here and can vouchsafe that Boris really is a c...
For all those patient enough to wait for the answer to the trivia question I posted yesterday, here ...
Nightshade1313 comments on Sep 4, 2019:
No way!! 😀😳
273kelvin replies on Sep 5, 2019:
When you listen again with that knowledge, it does sound like a Jolson song.
Nightshade1313 comments on Sep 4, 2019:
No way!! 😀😳
273kelvin replies on Sep 5, 2019:
When you listen again with that knowledge, it does sound like a Jolson song.
This slim and very well proportioned woman was staring at the sea.
273kelvin comments on Sep 3, 2019:
But here are some guys looking out for her
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Merseyman1 There are looking a the Mersey estuary
273kelvin comments on Sep 3, 2019:
But here are some guys looking out for her
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Merseyman1 There are looking a the Mersey estuary
My mother is having a family cookout on Friday.
Triphid comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Imho, don't make up some excuse, just tell them 100% straight out the truth, you don't really need to associate with scum like that even IF he is a part of your family.
Try organising an event of your own and NOT sending that piece of shit an invitation plus instruct ALL other invitees that HE is ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
I agree
Triphid comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Imho, don't make up some excuse, just tell them 100% straight out the truth, you don't really need to associate with scum like that even IF he is a part of your family.
Try organising an event of your own and NOT sending that piece of shit an invitation plus instruct ALL other invitees that HE is ...
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
I agree
Are you lonesome tonight - Trivia
I hosted the trivia night on Sunday.
KKGator comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Elvis.
Didn't even know Lorrie Morgan covered it.
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
It`s not Elvis, I gave you that at the start
KKGator comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Elvis.
Didn't even know Lorrie Morgan covered it.
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
It`s not Elvis, I gave you that at the start
Are you lonesome tonight - Trivia
I hosted the trivia night on Sunday.
Wangobango3 comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Doris Day?
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
No, it's not. Once you know the answer and if you listen to the song. You can hear how it sounds like one of theirs.
Wangobango3 comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Doris Day?
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
No, it's not. Once you know the answer and if you listen to the song. You can hear how it sounds like one of theirs.
Are you lonesome tonight - Trivia
I hosted the trivia night on Sunday.
Marionville comments on Sep 3, 2019:
I think I know ...haven’t googled, but I want to see if others know too before I say. I will PM you with my answer.
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
OKAY
Marionville comments on Sep 3, 2019:
I think I know ...haven’t googled, but I want to see if others know too before I say. I will PM you with my answer.
273kelvin replies on Sep 3, 2019:
OKAY
The lucky charm - talisman.
BitFlipper comments on Sep 1, 2019:
Sounds like you're looking to justify a belief for which there is no evidence.
273kelvin replies on Sep 1, 2019:
I did a positive thing and traveled 30 odd miles on public transport to help her out.
I found my knife which made me feel good about myself
I applied myself to the job hunt
I was still feeling positive when the phone rang
This carried over to the interview.
No magic, just good actions leading to good outcomes, albeit unconnected
BitFlipper comments on Sep 1, 2019:
Sounds like you're looking to justify a belief for which there is no evidence.
273kelvin replies on Sep 1, 2019:
I did a positive thing and traveled 30 odd miles on public transport to help her out.
I found my knife which made me feel good about myself
I applied myself to the job hunt
I was still feeling positive when the phone rang
This carried over to the interview.
No magic, just good actions leading to good outcomes, albeit unconnected
Roll up, roll up folks one and all.
Sticks48 comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Betty Grable?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
@bleurowz I know
Sticks48 comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Betty Grable?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
@bleurowz I know
Roll up, roll up folks one and all.
Sticks48 comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Betty Grable?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
@bleurowz It's not my only question and one got it wrong even after this comment
Sticks48 comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Betty Grable?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
@bleurowz It's not my only question and one got it wrong even after this comment
Roll up, roll up folks one and all.
Booklover comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Easy peasy! 😁
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
Okay smart arse, What film? lol
Booklover comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Easy peasy! 😁
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
Okay smart arse, What film? lol
Roll up, roll up folks one and all.
t1nick comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Patrick McGowen?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
Tomorrow night please
t1nick comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Patrick McGowen?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
Tomorrow night please
Roll up, roll up folks one and all.
Sticks48 comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Betty Grable?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
Delete this comment forthwith, please. And bring your answer tomorrow as I asked
Sticks48 comments on Aug 31, 2019:
Betty Grable?
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
Delete this comment forthwith, please. And bring your answer tomorrow as I asked
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
@dan325 They are responsible for your lot driving on the wrong side of the road as well. Just think how much more efficiently you could do a drive-by shooting if it was a one man job.
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 31, 2019:
@dan325 They are responsible for your lot driving on the wrong side of the road as well. Just think how much more efficiently you could do a drive-by shooting if it was a one man job.
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@dan325 I blame the French. Because of the history and because they're French
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@dan325 I blame the French. Because of the history and because they're French
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@dan325 Don't blame us English. The guy was a Kaut
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@dan325 Don't blame us English. The guy was a Kaut
I wish this was for real....
273kelvin comments on Aug 30, 2019:
It's not that good as it does not give you the height of the impact point. The velocity would be directly proportional to the amount of drop squared. So it would be smaller on the shoulders than the shins
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
Plus you have to factor in whatever velocity our caped crusader may have added by swinging his legs.
273kelvin comments on Aug 30, 2019:
It's not that good as it does not give you the height of the impact point. The velocity would be directly proportional to the amount of drop squared. So it would be smaller on the shoulders than the shins
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
Plus you have to factor in whatever velocity our caped crusader may have added by swinging his legs.
The lucky charm - talisman.
seattlepanda comments on Aug 30, 2019:
Statistical anomalies are just that, anomalies. The smaller the subset, the more frequently they will occur. But, feel free to believe in and thank your lucky stars. Does no harm...
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@seattlepanda It does happen. even at the highest levels. One example I read was by this guy who was one of Karpov's seconds. He and the team were charged with looking into a promising variation (pre-internet). So they scoured though all the published games till eventually, they found a refutation from an obscure women's candidate match. The chances of anyone knowing this was minute but a refutation anywhere was not good enough for the world champion and it was dropped.
Three months later and his opponent plays it on him in a congress. Dumb luck that he picked the wrong guy to use it on.
seattlepanda comments on Aug 30, 2019:
Statistical anomalies are just that, anomalies. The smaller the subset, the more frequently they will occur. But, feel free to believe in and thank your lucky stars. Does no harm...
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@seattlepanda It does happen. even at the highest levels. One example I read was by this guy who was one of Karpov's seconds. He and the team were charged with looking into a promising variation (pre-internet). So they scoured though all the published games till eventually, they found a refutation from an obscure women's candidate match. The chances of anyone knowing this was minute but a refutation anywhere was not good enough for the world champion and it was dropped.
Three months later and his opponent plays it on him in a congress. Dumb luck that he picked the wrong guy to use it on.
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
Haemish1 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
At least it didn’t happen on a bus or some form of public transportation;)
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@Haemish1 https://www.visitmanchester.com/visitor-information/travel-information/metrolink-p328571
An interesting look at numbers. The energy soda Monsters logo looks like a large M but it is also 3 Hebrew numbers, which are 666
Haemish1 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
At least it didn’t happen on a bus or some form of public transportation;)
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@Haemish1 https://www.visitmanchester.com/visitor-information/travel-information/metrolink-p328571
An interesting look at numbers. The energy soda Monsters logo looks like a large M but it is also 3 Hebrew numbers, which are 666
The lucky charm - talisman.
seattlepanda comments on Aug 30, 2019:
Statistical anomalies are just that, anomalies. The smaller the subset, the more frequently they will occur. But, feel free to believe in and thank your lucky stars. Does no harm...
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
I have read several articles about the presence of luck in chess. You would think that such a logical game would have eliminated chance but not so.
We all have our good and bad days. It so happened that the knife gave me an up feeling right when the interviews came. Just like meeting an opponent who chooses your favorite opening. The coincidence happened at a "lucky" time
seattlepanda comments on Aug 30, 2019:
Statistical anomalies are just that, anomalies. The smaller the subset, the more frequently they will occur. But, feel free to believe in and thank your lucky stars. Does no harm...
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
I have read several articles about the presence of luck in chess. You would think that such a logical game would have eliminated chance but not so.
We all have our good and bad days. It so happened that the knife gave me an up feeling right when the interviews came. Just like meeting an opponent who chooses your favorite opening. The coincidence happened at a "lucky" time
The lucky charm - talisman.
Stephanie99 comments on Aug 30, 2019:
Your explanation is why luck does not exist, and what it really is, rather than why luck does exist.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
I was doing some preliminary roof work on a newly constructed wall. As was up there the boss said "The mortar hasn't set yet so don't put any weight on it. Just use it for balance".
Like that wall, I do not trust to luck but I know that it's there and it can help keep me upright.
Stephanie99 comments on Aug 30, 2019:
Your explanation is why luck does not exist, and what it really is, rather than why luck does exist.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
I was doing some preliminary roof work on a newly constructed wall. As was up there the boss said "The mortar hasn't set yet so don't put any weight on it. Just use it for balance".
Like that wall, I do not trust to luck but I know that it's there and it can help keep me upright.
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@dan325 This kind of benefit comes after you get universal health care. But hey ho emigrate and pay your taxes here and it's yours.
You might have got it at home if those darned revolutionary landowners had not been so upperty about state control in 1776
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@dan325 This kind of benefit comes after you get universal health care. But hey ho emigrate and pay your taxes here and it's yours.
You might have got it at home if those darned revolutionary landowners had not been so upperty about state control in 1776
The lucky charm - talisman.
mischl comments on Aug 30, 2019:
That knife (or one very similar) is still being made and sold.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
It does not surprise me, as it is well designed. I think that these were surplus because they had the old West German army logo on them.
mischl comments on Aug 30, 2019:
That knife (or one very similar) is still being made and sold.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
It does not surprise me, as it is well designed. I think that these were surplus because they had the old West German army logo on them.
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
Well, I do have my twirly pass.
Fyi a "twirly pass" is the over 60s free public transport benefit that my city gave me for not dying. (Socialism at work). It's valid on weekends and on weekdays after 9.30am. The nickname comes from us coffin dodgers that try and travel before the 9.30am watershed.
Bus driver - "You can't use that yet. You're too early"
dan325 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
Ouch. That's even worse than my regularly getting the senior discount without asking for it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 30, 2019:
Well, I do have my twirly pass.
Fyi a "twirly pass" is the over 60s free public transport benefit that my city gave me for not dying. (Socialism at work). It's valid on weekends and on weekdays after 9.30am. The nickname comes from us coffin dodgers that try and travel before the 9.30am watershed.
Bus driver - "You can't use that yet. You're too early"
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
Haemish1 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
At least it didn’t happen on a bus or some form of public transportation;)
273kelvin replies on Aug 29, 2019:
@Haemish1 It is not a question of language but more of location. The Metro tram in Manchester is rather like the subway only that it is overground. I realize that getting around a major conurbation maybe rather alien to an inhabitant of Montana. A place that I am informed is so sparsely populated that the traffic cops pull you over because they are lonely.
Haemish1 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
At least it didn’t happen on a bus or some form of public transportation;)
273kelvin replies on Aug 29, 2019:
@Haemish1 It is not a question of language but more of location. The Metro tram in Manchester is rather like the subway only that it is overground. I realize that getting around a major conurbation maybe rather alien to an inhabitant of Montana. A place that I am informed is so sparsely populated that the traffic cops pull you over because they are lonely.
I never thought that this would happen to me but it did.
Haemish1 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
At least it didn’t happen on a bus or some form of public transportation;)
273kelvin replies on Aug 29, 2019:
Yes, it did. It was the metro tram in Manchester
Haemish1 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
At least it didn’t happen on a bus or some form of public transportation;)
273kelvin replies on Aug 29, 2019:
Yes, it did. It was the metro tram in Manchester
What exactly was the reason for Europeans toaccept a god from the desert over the local gods who ...
273kelvin comments on Aug 28, 2019:
Rome was the big cheese culture. So even if you were not occupied like Ireland. It must have been very influential. Just as Hollywood and rock-n-roll have been exported from the USA.
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
@Spinliesel Why not? John Lennon said, "The Beatles are bigger than Jesus".
I meant it in terms of cultural hegemony. Christianity must have looked sophisticated and aspirational compared to primitive religions. It was the god of the powerful winners. It also brought the concept of written language.
273kelvin comments on Aug 28, 2019:
Rome was the big cheese culture. So even if you were not occupied like Ireland. It must have been very influential. Just as Hollywood and rock-n-roll have been exported from the USA.
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
@Spinliesel Why not? John Lennon said, "The Beatles are bigger than Jesus".
I meant it in terms of cultural hegemony. Christianity must have looked sophisticated and aspirational compared to primitive religions. It was the god of the powerful winners. It also brought the concept of written language.
Loved listening to this guy forty odd years ago.
ballou comments on Aug 28, 2019:
He was one fine guitarist too. He was a well known session player for a lot of bands, including the Beach Boys.
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
@Marionville It is amazing what you pick up in interviews. I saw one with Robert Plant. Like Glen he was a session guitarist in his youth and played on loads of songs. When asked if he remembered any he said "Not really as there were so many but I do remember Shirley Bassey`s Goldfinger as she fainted afterward"
ballou comments on Aug 28, 2019:
He was one fine guitarist too. He was a well known session player for a lot of bands, including the Beach Boys.
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
@Marionville It is amazing what you pick up in interviews. I saw one with Robert Plant. Like Glen he was a session guitarist in his youth and played on loads of songs. When asked if he remembered any he said "Not really as there were so many but I do remember Shirley Bassey`s Goldfinger as she fainted afterward"
Loved listening to this guy forty odd years ago.
ballou comments on Aug 28, 2019:
He was one fine guitarist too. He was a well known session player for a lot of bands, including the Beach Boys.
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
He also played guitar on Sinartras "Stangers in the night"
ballou comments on Aug 28, 2019:
He was one fine guitarist too. He was a well known session player for a lot of bands, including the Beach Boys.
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
He also played guitar on Sinartras "Stangers in the night"
Nothing says "respect my religion" like child murder...
273kelvin comments on Aug 27, 2019:
Once upon a time, I went to Jerusalem. An odd place for an atheist to be but as I looked around. It was the overwhelming impression that just as in Chicago you are nobody until you have had someone "rubbed out". That in that town, you were nobody until you put a kid on an altar
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
@kellymkg They all do it. Be it Catholics preventing birth control in 3rd world countries. JWs withholding blood transfusions. Muslims blowing up a concert in Manchester. I can take you to a cave in Scotland where Presbyterians burnt oner 200 Babtist men women and children alive. Of course, it is more powerful if it's your kid but they all have sacrificed children for their beliefs.
273kelvin comments on Aug 27, 2019:
Once upon a time, I went to Jerusalem. An odd place for an atheist to be but as I looked around. It was the overwhelming impression that just as in Chicago you are nobody until you have had someone "rubbed out". That in that town, you were nobody until you put a kid on an altar
273kelvin replies on Aug 28, 2019:
@kellymkg They all do it. Be it Catholics preventing birth control in 3rd world countries. JWs withholding blood transfusions. Muslims blowing up a concert in Manchester. I can take you to a cave in Scotland where Presbyterians burnt oner 200 Babtist men women and children alive. Of course, it is more powerful if it's your kid but they all have sacrificed children for their beliefs.
Nothing says "respect my religion" like child murder...
Larry-new comments on Aug 27, 2019:
Dylan:
God said to Abraham, Kill me a son
Abe said, Man, you're putting me on
God said no, Abe said whoa
God said You can do what you want Abe, but
the next time you see me coming, you'd better run...
Abe said, Where you want this killing done?
God said, Take him out to highway 61.
273kelvin replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@Geoffrey51
You who build the altars now
To sacrifice these children
You must not do it anymore
A scheme is not a vision
And you never have been tempted
By a demon or a god
You who stand above them now
Your hatchets blunt and bloody
You were not there before
When I lay upon a mountain
And my father's hand was trembling
With the beauty of the word
L. Cohen - Sory of Isaac
Larry-new comments on Aug 27, 2019:
Dylan:
God said to Abraham, Kill me a son
Abe said, Man, you're putting me on
God said no, Abe said whoa
God said You can do what you want Abe, but
the next time you see me coming, you'd better run...
Abe said, Where you want this killing done?
God said, Take him out to highway 61.
273kelvin replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@Geoffrey51
You who build the altars now
To sacrifice these children
You must not do it anymore
A scheme is not a vision
And you never have been tempted
By a demon or a god
You who stand above them now
Your hatchets blunt and bloody
You were not there before
When I lay upon a mountain
And my father's hand was trembling
With the beauty of the word
L. Cohen - Sory of Isaac
No one can tell me why I am here in this mystery.
273kelvin comments on Aug 23, 2019:
I did come across a solution to your ponderings once and it goes like this.
If you are truly troubled by the meaning of your existence? Then I suggest that tonight you vacate your comfortable bed and sleep rough. If after a few nights of kipping outdoors you are still troubled? Then renounce all ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 23, 2019:
@LucasfromGR No, I'm not, dad was. The song just sums up my philosophy in this matter
273kelvin comments on Aug 23, 2019:
I did come across a solution to your ponderings once and it goes like this.
If you are truly troubled by the meaning of your existence? Then I suggest that tonight you vacate your comfortable bed and sleep rough. If after a few nights of kipping outdoors you are still troubled? Then renounce all ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 23, 2019:
@LucasfromGR No, I'm not, dad was. The song just sums up my philosophy in this matter
My religions professor is very adamant about convincing us atheists are just as religious as ...
273kelvin comments on Aug 21, 2019:
So many times I come across "The elephant and the Polish problem." * Where people (especially religious ones) view everything else from their own perspective and cannot conceive a view outside of it. They have faith and it is part of their world. The fact that all their bs is about as much concern ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 21, 2019:
@Fernapple A school for embassy children of different nationalities and the new teacher asks all the kids to write a story about an elephant. Everyone writes a story as she asks except for the Polish child, whose story is called "The elephant and the Polish problem"
273kelvin comments on Aug 21, 2019:
So many times I come across "The elephant and the Polish problem." * Where people (especially religious ones) view everything else from their own perspective and cannot conceive a view outside of it. They have faith and it is part of their world. The fact that all their bs is about as much concern ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 21, 2019:
@Fernapple A school for embassy children of different nationalities and the new teacher asks all the kids to write a story about an elephant. Everyone writes a story as she asks except for the Polish child, whose story is called "The elephant and the Polish problem"
My religions professor is very adamant about convincing us atheists are just as religious as ...
OldWiseAss comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Is anarchy a form of government?
Is silence music?
Is your Religion Professor a preacher in disguise?
273kelvin replies on Aug 21, 2019:
Is a teetotaler addicted to abstinence?
OldWiseAss comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Is anarchy a form of government?
Is silence music?
Is your Religion Professor a preacher in disguise?
273kelvin replies on Aug 21, 2019:
Is a teetotaler addicted to abstinence?
Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 21, 2019:
Respect is a 2-way street
Arizonajerry comments on Aug 21, 2019:
Cutiebeauty, thank you very much for clarifying the purpose of these jokes. These cheesy jokes misled me to loosing hope in humanity and thinking that some people are disrespectful to our president....or worse. Thank you for steering me straight, it is jsut cheesy jokes. I feel much, much better. ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 21, 2019:
Respect is a 2-way street
Just got home from an evening at Shakespeare in the Park (Henry IV)
It was a great production - ...
Our_existence comments on Aug 17, 2019:
To drink or not to drink? That is the question. Whether it be nobler to view the play, or join in the revelry across the way.
273kelvin replies on Aug 18, 2019:
@Haemish1 Beer, a consummation devoutly to be wished
Our_existence comments on Aug 17, 2019:
To drink or not to drink? That is the question. Whether it be nobler to view the play, or join in the revelry across the way.
273kelvin replies on Aug 18, 2019:
@Haemish1 Beer, a consummation devoutly to be wished
Has anybody watched "the Family" on Netflix?
JackPedigo comments on Aug 17, 2019:
I have started but will fast forward past all the magic BS. I am sure it has had a very big effect (I wonder if they courted Obama) but, hopefully, as far as the people go more are becoming wise to this trickery.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
@LimitedLight That`s the one. Every president since Ike has attended
JackPedigo comments on Aug 17, 2019:
I have started but will fast forward past all the magic BS. I am sure it has had a very big effect (I wonder if they courted Obama) but, hopefully, as far as the people go more are becoming wise to this trickery.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
@LimitedLight That`s the one. Every president since Ike has attended
Has anybody watched "the Family" on Netflix?
JackPedigo comments on Aug 17, 2019:
I have started but will fast forward past all the magic BS. I am sure it has had a very big effect (I wonder if they courted Obama) but, hopefully, as far as the people go more are becoming wise to this trickery.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
Obama would not have needed much courting. Remember that he got a lot of support from the black baptist churches
JackPedigo comments on Aug 17, 2019:
I have started but will fast forward past all the magic BS. I am sure it has had a very big effect (I wonder if they courted Obama) but, hopefully, as far as the people go more are becoming wise to this trickery.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
Obama would not have needed much courting. Remember that he got a lot of support from the black baptist churches
Has anybody watched "the Family" on Netflix?
DharmaBum50 comments on Aug 17, 2019:
Thanks for the suggestion. I was unaware of this movie.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
It`s a documentary series
DharmaBum50 comments on Aug 17, 2019:
Thanks for the suggestion. I was unaware of this movie.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
It`s a documentary series
Has anybody watched "the Family" on Netflix?
jlynn37 comments on Aug 17, 2019:
I have not watched it nor do I intend too. In my personal opinion, as with all programs like this, especially on platforms like Netflix, it is fiction and produced for entertainment purposes only. Again, just my personal opinion.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
Give it 5 minutes. Honestly, this is not silver hat conspiracy theories. It goes across party lines and has been in the center of Washington for decades. Involving EVERY US president from Ike to the present day
jlynn37 comments on Aug 17, 2019:
I have not watched it nor do I intend too. In my personal opinion, as with all programs like this, especially on platforms like Netflix, it is fiction and produced for entertainment purposes only. Again, just my personal opinion.
273kelvin replies on Aug 17, 2019:
Give it 5 minutes. Honestly, this is not silver hat conspiracy theories. It goes across party lines and has been in the center of Washington for decades. Involving EVERY US president from Ike to the present day
I guess there's not much hitchhiking going on anymore, but back in the old days it was pretty ...
KKGator comments on Aug 14, 2019:
I remember hitchhiking all over Hollywood, FL when I was a teenager.
It was such a different time, that's for sure.
273kelvin replies on Aug 14, 2019:
It is actually safer now. You can take a picture of the number plate and send it off to someone. Similarly, the driver can photo your ID
KKGator comments on Aug 14, 2019:
I remember hitchhiking all over Hollywood, FL when I was a teenager.
It was such a different time, that's for sure.
273kelvin replies on Aug 14, 2019:
It is actually safer now. You can take a picture of the number plate and send it off to someone. Similarly, the driver can photo your ID
Agnostic vs Atheist
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Fernapple comments on Aug 13, 2019:
I don't basically disagree with you but I think that the "Where are the scissors Darling?" analogue is not a good one. The real equivalent should be. "There are no scissors in an unknown draw somewhere perhaps on a distant planet." Which is the real meaning of you can not prove a negative, it does ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
We do not live in a hypothetical world. We live in a real-world with real causes and effects. If I look in the draw and find no scissors? I can say that no scissors exist in the only draw I can look at. When I look at the world and all its history and find no evidence of a god that was believed to exist. Then I can say that he is not here.
As for the possible existence of scissors in another place that I have no access to. They are of no use to me and it just does not cut it.
Fernapple comments on Aug 13, 2019:
I don't basically disagree with you but I think that the "Where are the scissors Darling?" analogue is not a good one. The real equivalent should be. "There are no scissors in an unknown draw somewhere perhaps on a distant planet." Which is the real meaning of you can not prove a negative, it does ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
We do not live in a hypothetical world. We live in a real-world with real causes and effects. If I look in the draw and find no scissors? I can say that no scissors exist in the only draw I can look at. When I look at the world and all its history and find no evidence of a god that was believed to exist. Then I can say that he is not here.
As for the possible existence of scissors in another place that I have no access to. They are of no use to me and it just does not cut it.
Agnostic vs Atheist
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creative51 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
I hate to be a downer, but I really do not feel this is worth arguing about. If some want to be agnostics, fine, if some want to be atheists, fine. The fate of the world does not rest on resolving this.
Why not argue about something really important like are Chevy Trucks or Ford Trucks better?
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
@creative51 Did you ever see the UK "Top gear" show where they tried to kill a Toyota truck?
creative51 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
I hate to be a downer, but I really do not feel this is worth arguing about. If some want to be agnostics, fine, if some want to be atheists, fine. The fate of the world does not rest on resolving this.
Why not argue about something really important like are Chevy Trucks or Ford Trucks better?
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
@creative51 Did you ever see the UK "Top gear" show where they tried to kill a Toyota truck?
Agnostic vs Atheist
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TheMiddleWay comments on Aug 13, 2019:
Few thoughts from an agnostic:
1) You cannot know for sure due to the very nature of the god claim. It's like the ontological equivalent of proving that "this sentence is not true" is valid or not.
2) You can prove a negative. It is harder to prove than a positive but it can be done and is done ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
We can also use statistical analysis to disprove a theory. Like 45s statement "Wind turbines can cause cancer I hear". You can look and see if there are any significant differences in the figures and see if it warrants further investigation. Or Jordan Peterson's assertion that our morals are a result of religious teaching. Even if we agnostic/atheist, it is a residual or osmosis effect from other believers. A quick look at the crime figures around the world will show that there is no correlation between the two. In fact, it is often the reverse, as in Ethiopia, USA or Rwanda. All of which have a population of over 95% believers yet have amongst the highest crime rates and in Rwanda's case was responsible for one of the worst atrocities in living memory.
TheMiddleWay comments on Aug 13, 2019:
Few thoughts from an agnostic:
1) You cannot know for sure due to the very nature of the god claim. It's like the ontological equivalent of proving that "this sentence is not true" is valid or not.
2) You can prove a negative. It is harder to prove than a positive but it can be done and is done ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
We can also use statistical analysis to disprove a theory. Like 45s statement "Wind turbines can cause cancer I hear". You can look and see if there are any significant differences in the figures and see if it warrants further investigation. Or Jordan Peterson's assertion that our morals are a result of religious teaching. Even if we agnostic/atheist, it is a residual or osmosis effect from other believers. A quick look at the crime figures around the world will show that there is no correlation between the two. In fact, it is often the reverse, as in Ethiopia, USA or Rwanda. All of which have a population of over 95% believers yet have amongst the highest crime rates and in Rwanda's case was responsible for one of the worst atrocities in living memory.
Agnostic vs Atheist
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BufftonBeotch comments on Aug 13, 2019:
The idea of a g-d is just ridiculous.
How could he/she not threatened to pull the car off the road if we kids didn't shut the fu-k up and get along?
"I will SHUT this ENTIRE water park day DOWN!"
"Do NOT TRY ME!"
"Give your brother a juice box, Jimmie. He's looking gray around the ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
@Moravian He is most probably of Jewish descent and is only respecting his culture
BufftonBeotch comments on Aug 13, 2019:
The idea of a g-d is just ridiculous.
How could he/she not threatened to pull the car off the road if we kids didn't shut the fu-k up and get along?
"I will SHUT this ENTIRE water park day DOWN!"
"Do NOT TRY ME!"
"Give your brother a juice box, Jimmie. He's looking gray around the ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
@Moravian He is most probably of Jewish descent and is only respecting his culture
Agnostic vs Atheist
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Marionville comments on Aug 13, 2019:
I am really rather tired of this somewhat artificial division between the two words. I was always of the opinion that the arguments between the two were similar to dancing on the head of a pin. However, since joining this site I have revised my view of those who are adamantly agnostic, a group I...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
Thank you, Marionville. Which is why I question their motives
Marionville comments on Aug 13, 2019:
I am really rather tired of this somewhat artificial division between the two words. I was always of the opinion that the arguments between the two were similar to dancing on the head of a pin. However, since joining this site I have revised my view of those who are adamantly agnostic, a group I...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
Thank you, Marionville. Which is why I question their motives
Agnostic vs Atheist
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SleepingOnABoat comments on Aug 13, 2019:
"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"
Suppose (I'm following a group therapy approach by the psychologist Richard Franklin[4]) I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
The intangible scissors. Just like the ether that has no substance, use or any other claim to existence outside of the conceptual.
SleepingOnABoat comments on Aug 13, 2019:
"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"
Suppose (I'm following a group therapy approach by the psychologist Richard Franklin[4]) I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the...
273kelvin replies on Aug 13, 2019:
The intangible scissors. Just like the ether that has no substance, use or any other claim to existence outside of the conceptual.
Agnostic vs Atheist
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greyeyed123 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
I've pointed out that an alibi proves a negative at *least* to the degree a positive is proven. Demonstrating someone was somewhere else during the time of a crime also demonstrates they did *not* commit that crime (if we all accept time travel is not possible, yada yada yada).
But then people ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
All these go on the presumption of innocence. Unfortunately, society is populated by people that have the presumption of existence, with nothing except faith to back it up.
greyeyed123 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
I've pointed out that an alibi proves a negative at *least* to the degree a positive is proven. Demonstrating someone was somewhere else during the time of a crime also demonstrates they did *not* commit that crime (if we all accept time travel is not possible, yada yada yada).
But then people ...
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
All these go on the presumption of innocence. Unfortunately, society is populated by people that have the presumption of existence, with nothing except faith to back it up.
Agnostic vs Atheist
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azzow2 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
The text that claim a deity can defy the laws of nature and physics should be enough to end the debate if such absurdity existed. Sex is a glandular thing and physical concepts, thought and contemplation of such things could never be compared.
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
There is a similarity in agnostic and sex, desire. It can only be the desire to have a chance of a big sky somewhere that would want to keep the embers alight.
azzow2 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
The text that claim a deity can defy the laws of nature and physics should be enough to end the debate if such absurdity existed. Sex is a glandular thing and physical concepts, thought and contemplation of such things could never be compared.
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
There is a similarity in agnostic and sex, desire. It can only be the desire to have a chance of a big sky somewhere that would want to keep the embers alight.
Agnostic vs Atheist
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creative51 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
I hate to be a downer, but I really do not feel this is worth arguing about. If some want to be agnostics, fine, if some want to be atheists, fine. The fate of the world does not rest on resolving this.
Why not argue about something really important like are Chevy Trucks or Ford Trucks better?
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
I agree and for the most part, I prefer to talk about music or other such subjects. It is only that there have been so many posts on this that I thought I might as well add my twopennys worth
creative51 comments on Aug 12, 2019:
I hate to be a downer, but I really do not feel this is worth arguing about. If some want to be agnostics, fine, if some want to be atheists, fine. The fate of the world does not rest on resolving this.
Why not argue about something really important like are Chevy Trucks or Ford Trucks better?
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
I agree and for the most part, I prefer to talk about music or other such subjects. It is only that there have been so many posts on this that I thought I might as well add my twopennys worth
Agnostic vs Atheist
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dare2dream comments on Aug 12, 2019:
Because your mind should be open to any new evidence that may come in.
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
@dare2dream We can say "There are no f*cking scissors in the draw. I have looked".
dare2dream comments on Aug 12, 2019:
Because your mind should be open to any new evidence that may come in.
273kelvin replies on Aug 12, 2019:
@dare2dream We can say "There are no f*cking scissors in the draw. I have looked".
Who in History would you have liked to have had a love affair with? My choice for today is Voltaire
RobertNappi2 comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Joan of Arc, religious sex...Oh god...Oh god!!!!!
273kelvin replies on Aug 11, 2019:
Every man falls in love with Joan. Including Mark Twain, Shaw, and L. Cohen
https://youtu.be/gtwUyDPXROQ
RobertNappi2 comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Joan of Arc, religious sex...Oh god...Oh god!!!!!
273kelvin replies on Aug 11, 2019:
Every man falls in love with Joan. Including Mark Twain, Shaw, and L. Cohen
https://youtu.be/gtwUyDPXROQ
For the history buffs: Interesting article about how Thomas Jefferson created his own "bible".
wordywalt comments on Aug 7, 2019:
Jefferson was a Deist.
273kelvin replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@powder Inspired by
wordywalt comments on Aug 7, 2019:
Jefferson was a Deist.
273kelvin replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@powder Inspired by
No, you make dinner!!
273kelvin comments on Aug 9, 2019:
Can I have a little bit to eat before dinner?
273kelvin replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty Well you showed something closer to my diet
273kelvin comments on Aug 9, 2019:
Can I have a little bit to eat before dinner?
273kelvin replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty Well you showed something closer to my diet
The Beatles and Morecambe & Wise....on ITV (1963)
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Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Aug 7, 2019:
Love ''This Boy''! This is great fun!
I have an e-friend who lives near the Abbey Road Studios, & I often watch the live camera & see the tourists make idiots of themselves at ''that'' crossing. My pal will wave to me while passing it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 8, 2019:
@Marionville The speed bumps in Penny Lane are brutal lol
Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Aug 7, 2019:
Love ''This Boy''! This is great fun!
I have an e-friend who lives near the Abbey Road Studios, & I often watch the live camera & see the tourists make idiots of themselves at ''that'' crossing. My pal will wave to me while passing it.
273kelvin replies on Aug 8, 2019:
@Marionville The speed bumps in Penny Lane are brutal lol
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