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AstralSmoke comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I love people almost as much as I do the rest of the animal kingdom, but there seems to be similar problems when humans are placed in charge, too many unwanted dogs, cats, and human babies. We aren't afraid to reproduce, but after the miracle of birth is complete we gladly discard them as trash.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I suppose I should have set miracle in quotes. I've been in a similar discussion before. Our discussion was based on way the churches or religions think abortion is wrong (in that it kills children), but are OK with starving, abusing, neglecting, and even disposing of them once they have been born. It's difficult to not be a tad bit sarcastic when writing my replies sometimes.
AstralSmoke comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I love people almost as much as I do the rest of the animal kingdom, but there seems to be similar problems when humans are placed in charge, too many unwanted dogs, cats, and human babies. We aren't afraid to reproduce, but after the miracle of birth is complete we gladly discard them as trash.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I suppose I should have set miracle in quotes. I've been in a similar discussion before. Our discussion was based on way the churches or religions think abortion is wrong (in that it kills children), but are OK with starving, abusing, neglecting, and even disposing of them once they have been born. It's difficult to not be a tad bit sarcastic when writing my replies sometimes.
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
VictoriaNotes comments on Oct 30, 2017:
Necessary?
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
This reminds me of something my brother-in-law once told me. He said, "Religion is necessary for people." I don't agree. I believe it is a convenient way to shrug responsibilities.
VictoriaNotes comments on Oct 30, 2017:
Necessary?
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
This reminds me of something my brother-in-law once told me. He said, "Religion is necessary for people." I don't agree. I believe it is a convenient way to shrug responsibilities.
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
xplorva comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I don't, but it's nice to be in-touch with a community that shares your beliefs. I guess that's why I'm here. Physically, I'm in rural Tennessee, lol.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I agree, but why 'church'?
xplorva comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I don't, but it's nice to be in-touch with a community that shares your beliefs. I guess that's why I'm here. Physically, I'm in rural Tennessee, lol.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I agree, but why 'church'?
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
Benthoven comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I think it's mostly looking for company. It's hard to meet real people, and one of the best places is an "open" church where real physical connections can be made.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
Merriam-Webster: a building for public and especially Christian worship. Are people so generally weak minded to settle for 'almost' something?
Benthoven comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I think it's mostly looking for company. It's hard to meet real people, and one of the best places is an "open" church where real physical connections can be made.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
Merriam-Webster: a building for public and especially Christian worship. Are people so generally weak minded to settle for 'almost' something?
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
SkepChik comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I don't know if I'd say its necessary but it does provide people with a community.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
OK, a community ... even a community of like-thinkers, but why then call it a church?
SkepChik comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I don't know if I'd say its necessary but it does provide people with a community.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
OK, a community ... even a community of like-thinkers, but why then call it a church?
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
Joanne comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I am considering going to my local Universalist Unitarian church because I live in a small town/county and there are no secular groups for me to join. It isn't that I feel a need to go to church, or anything like that. I just feel I need to engage, in person, with some like-minded people. Even ...
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
For me, church is not where I find like-minded people or even humanists for that matter. I do understand the psychology of wanting to be one-in-a-crowd as a comfort blanket of sorts. And I understand everyone is developing ... into something or someone.
Joanne comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I am considering going to my local Universalist Unitarian church because I live in a small town/county and there are no secular groups for me to join. It isn't that I feel a need to go to church, or anything like that. I just feel I need to engage, in person, with some like-minded people. Even ...
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
For me, church is not where I find like-minded people or even humanists for that matter. I do understand the psychology of wanting to be one-in-a-crowd as a comfort blanket of sorts. And I understand everyone is developing ... into something or someone.
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
Hellbent comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I'm a bit shocked to find that atheists would go to a church.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
Me too. It's like they're fake somehow.
Hellbent comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I'm a bit shocked to find that atheists would go to a church.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
Me too. It's like they're fake somehow.
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
silvereyes comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I've personally never went, nor do I really care to-- church always was boring to me anyway. I do understand though. Being an Atheist doesn't make it easy to meet other like-minded people. There aren't a lot of options for places to find and meet Atheists. Especially in the Bible belt.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I'm not positive that is correct. Seems like music, harvest moons, celebration of nature, etc. present plenty of opportunities. We (atheist/agnostics) need to be more creative rather than borrowing from something we speak against.
silvereyes comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I've personally never went, nor do I really care to-- church always was boring to me anyway. I do understand though. Being an Atheist doesn't make it easy to meet other like-minded people. There aren't a lot of options for places to find and meet Atheists. Especially in the Bible belt.
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I'm not positive that is correct. Seems like music, harvest moons, celebration of nature, etc. present plenty of opportunities. We (atheist/agnostics) need to be more creative rather than borrowing from something we speak against.
Why do so many atheist/agnostics feel it is necessary to have/go to a 'church'?
Hugene2002 comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I think you mean, why do they still want to go to a church like setting, even after becoming atheist. I think that it is purely a sense of community and validating their ideas with other like minded people. Most people are social by nature (try not being in contact with anyone for a couple of months...
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I agree and you interpreted my question correctly. But I don't understand why they even desire to call it a church. To me 'church' is tied to religion. I'm not aware of another meaning. Any enlightening words of wisdom?
Hugene2002 comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I think you mean, why do they still want to go to a church like setting, even after becoming atheist. I think that it is purely a sense of community and validating their ideas with other like minded people. Most people are social by nature (try not being in contact with anyone for a couple of months...
AstralSmoke replies on Oct 30, 2017:
I agree and you interpreted my question correctly. But I don't understand why they even desire to call it a church. To me 'church' is tied to religion. I'm not aware of another meaning. Any enlightening words of wisdom?
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