Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

Paul4747 comments on Sep 6, 2021:

That's the nature of their work. When someone is sick or dying, you don't (I hope you don't) shake your head and say, "Well, you brought it on yourself, you know. This is all your fault." If that were the case, smokers with lung cancer, meat-eaters with colon cancer, overweight people with... ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@FrayedBear I don't know what you're trying to say with that.

This is what many wished for [rt.com]

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 7, 2021:

The problem is that none of you would disagree with the premise, just this particular execution. So basically you're saying that your assessment of the dangers and overall expense of the pandemic are more valuable than those of the ones that will have to clean up the mess and foot the bill. If we ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@powder Dragged off? From the table at a restaurant? You have to know that doesn't make any sense. First, you'd be carded at the door and you'd never make it to the table, which I'm fine with if the variants keep getting worse. Secondly, if a police unit comes because you're breaking the rules it would be no different than if you forced your way into a school with your child who wasn't allowed to be there because of their incomplete vaccination status or your refusal to comply with a store's no shirt no shoes policy. "Moreover, it’s increasingly clear that those who recovered from covid-19 are better protected if they also get vaccinated. Numerous studies have found that vaccination after infection stimulates a substantial antibody response that’s more robust than either recovery or vaccination alone. A report published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concluded that such vaccinated people have half the risk of reinfection compared with previously infected people who remained unvaccinated." So even if you have antibodies, it still doesn't make sense not to require the vaccine for certain things.

Men, it's not that hard.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 7, 2021:

I wish they wouldn't make nonsensical arguments. Would they be okay if only women voted and a conservative/religious majority took hold and banned abortion? I think not. So they shouldn't make illogical arguments. The sex of the person taking away their rights is irrelevant.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@OldMetalHead Gallup Poll from this year shows 43% of women self-identify as pro-life. Older people vote at higher percentages, too, so the 58% of pro-lifers 65 years of age and older carries even more weight. Eliminating men from the equitation does not guarantee reproduce rights are protected...

This is what many wished for [rt.com]

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 7, 2021:

The problem is that none of you would disagree with the premise, just this particular execution. So basically you're saying that your assessment of the dangers and overall expense of the pandemic are more valuable than those of the ones that will have to clean up the mess and foot the bill. If we ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@powder Your claim that the only reason to coerce vaccination is herd immunity is false. Even if you don't believe it reduces the risk of transmission, it definitely reduces the risk of death or hospitalization. These reduced risks come with financial benefits for society at large and reduced strain on healthcare systems. The fact that the rest of your argument is predicated on that initial assumption invalidates it, * but * I will say that people can't be trusted not to lie about their infection/recovery status, so it's not that it * won't * be taken into account, it's that it * can't * be taken into account. (Should we allow parents to claim they don't need required vaccinations for school because their child caught and recovered from the disease?)

This is what many wished for [rt.com]

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 7, 2021:

The problem is that none of you would disagree with the premise, just this particular execution. So basically you're saying that your assessment of the dangers and overall expense of the pandemic are more valuable than those of the ones that will have to clean up the mess and foot the bill. If we ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@powder "A virus that killed 95% would not spread very far as the vectors would die before they can spread it." False. My fictitious disease did not detail incubation period, infectious period, or time line for lethality. Just because something is super lethal doesn't mean it'll kill you fast. Pancreatic cancer is about 90% lethal but that shit can take YEARS to kill you. "If the threat/ risk was so great and the vaccine effective enough, it would sell itself." Also false. There are people who will not trust the government/ scientists/ doctors/ the"elite" / etc. no matter what is at stake. Look at current vaccines children are required to have for school. There is a growing population of anti-vaxing parents that won't vaccinate their children with vaccines that are 100% effective and tested safe and known for DECADES. There are tons of stupid motherfuckers that would refuse it no matter what, and the rest of the population should have the right to be protected from them with restrictions placed on the unvaccinated (like them not being allowed in school).

Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

Paul4747 comments on Sep 6, 2021:

That's the nature of their work. When someone is sick or dying, you don't (I hope you don't) shake your head and say, "Well, you brought it on yourself, you know. This is all your fault." If that were the case, smokers with lung cancer, meat-eaters with colon cancer, overweight people with... ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@FrayedBear Why does that matter? Even if your side started the war, and for bad reasons, if you defect (understandably) why would you ask your new enemy for help? And if you did, why would you expect they'd help you or be happy about helping you?

I hope this is readable. It's an excellent argument.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 6, 2021:

Yup, that's the argument. It's the crux of the difference between abortion and the death penalty too when arguing against someone that says you're being inconsistent if you're pro-choice and anti-capital punishment. No one person * has * to care for that prisoner, but only one person can care for ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@rainmanjr Oh, I'm with you there. Humans should stop reproducing until we die out.

Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

Paul4747 comments on Sep 6, 2021:

That's the nature of their work. When someone is sick or dying, you don't (I hope you don't) shake your head and say, "Well, you brought it on yourself, you know. This is all your fault." If that were the case, smokers with lung cancer, meat-eaters with colon cancer, overweight people with... ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@FrayedBear To me there is. I explained the difference. If you don't see it that way, that's fine. To me it's the difference between being at war with another country and an innocent civilian getting shot in the crossfire and needing assistance and someone who was helping the enemy getting injured while helping them and then asking for assistance. Those are the same to you?

Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 6, 2021:

They don't. But most of us don't have any control over the matter. That's why we come to places like this to vent and hope they all die before they make it to the doors of the hospital.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@Paul4747 Are you part of 'we'? There are several healthcare workers that vent here regularly. And what you're describing is magical nonsense. The only way the higher percentage of anti-vaxxers the get covid and need hospitalization * wouldn't * show up on our doorstep is if they died at home. There's no scenario where the ones that need our help don't get it and just "fade away" without it being a result of them dying.

Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

Paul4747 comments on Sep 6, 2021:

That's the nature of their work. When someone is sick or dying, you don't (I hope you don't) shake your head and say, "Well, you brought it on yourself, you know. This is all your fault." If that were the case, smokers with lung cancer, meat-eaters with colon cancer, overweight people with... ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

There's a big difference between vices that slowly harm your body that cause strain on the healthcare system and taking the side of the enemy every step of the way by fighting against social distancing / lock downs, then masks, now vaccines and then asking for our help.

This is what many wished for [rt.com]

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 7, 2021:

The problem is that none of you would disagree with the premise, just this particular execution. So basically you're saying that your assessment of the dangers and overall expense of the pandemic are more valuable than those of the ones that will have to clean up the mess and foot the bill. If we ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@powder It drastically reduces it, and the symptoms from it. The argument still stands. For the sake of argument though, imagine this disease caused death in 95% of those that contracted it without the vaccine and only 5% with it and reduced the likelihood of transmission by 80%. It doesn't * stop * transmission, but you're telling me you wouldn't support measures that encouraged (not forcibly administered) injections?

I hope this is readable. It's an excellent argument.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 6, 2021:

Yup, that's the argument. It's the crux of the difference between abortion and the death penalty too when arguing against someone that says you're being inconsistent if you're pro-choice and anti-capital punishment. No one person * has * to care for that prisoner, but only one person can care for ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@rainmanjr I think you're joking, but that is also irrelevant. It could be a full grown sentient human and it's still up to the woman. Imagine for a moment there is a sick individual who happens to be a national treasure and due to a rare blood type and antibody combination, you are the only person in the world that can save them. By being surgically joined together including your blood supply, you can effectively be a 24/7 dialysis machine for them that they will need for the next 6 months or so until they will be well enough to live on their own again. Should the state be allowed to force you to undergo this surgical procedure to save this beloved individual?

This is what many wished for [rt.com]

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 7, 2021:

The problem is that none of you would disagree with the premise, just this particular execution. So basically you're saying that your assessment of the dangers and overall expense of the pandemic are more valuable than those of the ones that will have to clean up the mess and foot the bill. If we ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@powder Again, if the disease were more serious you would agree with the principles.

I hope this is readable. It's an excellent argument.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 6, 2021:

Yup, that's the argument. It's the crux of the difference between abortion and the death penalty too when arguing against someone that says you're being inconsistent if you're pro-choice and anti-capital punishment. No one person * has * to care for that prisoner, but only one person can care for ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@p-nullifidian True, but the terminology is irrelevant to the argument. No matter what stage it's still wholly dependant on the female host.

It's frightening how many people are still advocating using Ivermectin.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 6, 2021:

But they did their * own * research...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@Lorajay Making fun of the idiot anti-vaxxers.

Cocks not Glocks! [youtube.com]

dalefvictor comments on Sep 6, 2021:

Ted Cruz is proof that the Republican Party is attempting to destroy the United States. Every one hates him and he is still in office. So apparently the people in this part of Texas are just not that smart. Perhaps they can make him governor, that seems to be a position that does not require ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 6, 2021:

Well, Texans are some dumb motherfuckers, so...

Cocks not Glocks! [youtube.com]

Paul4747 comments on Sep 6, 2021:

The size of one does not compensate for the lack of the other....

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 6, 2021:

@Willow_Wisp But it makes for an amazing movie. Anyone who hasn't seen The Quick and the Dead should put down their phone right now and watch it.

Oh the Hypocrisy

powder comments on Sep 4, 2021:

Isn't it just? You do realise you may write that the other way and it still shows the hypocrisy of it all?

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 6, 2021:

No one is * forcing * the injection into anyone's arm, so as @Spongebob said, yours is a false equivalency.

Oh the Hypocrisy

OldGoat43 comments on Sep 4, 2021:

White male control issues?

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 6, 2021:

Because females and POC can't vote to take away women's reproductive rights?

Oklahoma hospitals deluged by ivermectin overdoses, doctor says | Coronavirus | The Guardian

mtnhome comments on Sep 5, 2021:

Would it be rude of me to offer those anti-vaxxers so inclined a free dose (or 3) of Ivermectin so we can further assess it's therapeutic value?

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 6, 2021:

Maybe injecting Clorox is a cure for Ivermectin OD? Only one way to know, and it's not scientific inquiry, it's testing it carelessly on idiots. Let's go!

"If we are a civilized society, founded on thoughtful intelligence, killing should almost never be a...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 4, 2021:

Do you mean killing of other humans specifically? Killing in general is necessary for evolution.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 4, 2021:

@Ello Still don't know what that has to do with the OP.

"If we are a civilized society, founded on thoughtful intelligence, killing should almost never be a...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 4, 2021:

Do you mean killing of other humans specifically? Killing in general is necessary for evolution.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 4, 2021:

@FrayedBear The last link makes more sense, but that's been going on for a long time, and he said radical move they just made. John Oliver covered that over a year ago.

"If we are a civilized society, founded on thoughtful intelligence, killing should almost never be a...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 4, 2021:

Do you mean killing of other humans specifically? Killing in general is necessary for evolution.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 4, 2021:

@FrayedBear Is that tired to killing somehow? Is the Chinese government killing homosexuals?

"If we are a civilized society, founded on thoughtful intelligence, killing should almost never be a...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 4, 2021:

Do you mean killing of other humans specifically? Killing in general is necessary for evolution.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 4, 2021:

@Ello I missed it. What happened?

"If we are a civilized society, founded on thoughtful intelligence, killing should almost never be a...

Fernapple comments on Sep 4, 2021:

No I don't agree, at least one sub group of killing, assisted dying is well worth supporting.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 4, 2021:

I was going to mention that too, but I assumed killing meant murder in this context and not things like assisted suicide, self-defense, or accidental death.

This is a philosophy post.

skado comments on Sep 3, 2021:

When I don’t have expertise in a field, I have to rely on those who do. When those who do don’t all agree, I have to listen to their reasons and use my best judgement as to who is right, and that would include but not be limited to noticing how many are on each side. A 52 to 48 split would ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 3, 2021:

This.

Now departing Tex-astan Nick Anderson Editorial Cartoons

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 2, 2021:

Can we all sue the airlines? I could use the money.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 2, 2021:

@Sierra4 I was kidding. I don't think you can sue for abortions out of state, can you? Wouldn't the whole country have stopped providing abortions like Texas stopped if they could?

Any one in Texas, do you remember back in the 1950's when one could find fetuses in trash cans and ...

Charlene comments on Sep 1, 2021:

What ARE the Men of Texas going to do About IT? It was White Men that passed this disgusting Gilead inspired,real life Hand Maids Tale bill..Stop laying the Responsibility Solely on Women. It Does take 2 to make a fetus..

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 2, 2021:

@Charlene Not sure what that has to do with anything, but okay.

Any one in Texas, do you remember back in the 1950's when one could find fetuses in trash cans and ...

Charlene comments on Sep 1, 2021:

What ARE the Men of Texas going to do About IT? It was White Men that passed this disgusting Gilead inspired,real life Hand Maids Tale bill..Stop laying the Responsibility Solely on Women. It Does take 2 to make a fetus..

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 2, 2021:

@Charlene I agree that the non-college white women were the worst of the bunch, but I can't place most of the blame on non-college white women when some of them didn't vote for Trump when I could just as easily place blame on only Trump voters regardless of other designations?

Any one in Texas, do you remember back in the 1950's when one could find fetuses in trash cans and ...

Charlene comments on Sep 1, 2021:

What ARE the Men of Texas going to do About IT? It was White Men that passed this disgusting Gilead inspired,real life Hand Maids Tale bill..Stop laying the Responsibility Solely on Women. It Does take 2 to make a fetus..

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 2, 2021:

@Charlene Please reread my comment and quote where I said women overwhelmingly voted for Trump. I'm not even blaming a * group * of women, I'm blaming the 47% of women who voted for Trump. Those female Trump voters made up almost 25% of the total ballots cast. If 403,590 of the the near 9 million voters would have placed a little more importance on maintaining autonomy of their own bodies they wouldn't be in this mess.

Any one in Texas, do you remember back in the 1950's when one could find fetuses in trash cans and ...

Charlene comments on Sep 1, 2021:

What ARE the Men of Texas going to do About IT? It was White Men that passed this disgusting Gilead inspired,real life Hand Maids Tale bill..Stop laying the Responsibility Solely on Women. It Does take 2 to make a fetus..

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 2, 2021:

@Charlene Yes, but women make up 53% of the people that voted in Texas in 2016. They * could * do whatever they want. Instead, 47% of them voted for Trump and lost their reproductive rights as a direct result. Maybe some of them bitches want to live in Gilead, but the majority that don't should have seen this coming and become single issue voters. So, if all women everywhere don't see this and become single issue voters at least until the balance of the court changes, they only have themselves to blame. They make up 55% of the vote nationwide, they need to start exercising their majority for good.

Any one in Texas, do you remember back in the 1950's when one could find fetuses in trash cans and ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 1, 2021:

Women voted for Donald Trump in 2016 or didn't vote at all. Minorities also withheld their votes for Hillary. The so-called progressives who didn't get their precious Sanders as a candidate stayed away from the polls. A lot of this was orchestrated by Putin's social media bots, but a lot was ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 1, 2021:

You know what, you just changed my whole tune on this. For the people that say I can't admit when I'm wrong, my whole take on this was wrong. The Right is clearly fuckin' evil and all these motherfuckers are riding the fence like there's an actual legitimate choice between the parties. They done fucked around and found out. I still feel bad for the underage girls that need an abortion but couldn't even vote, but maybe people will start to wake the fuck up when they start losing shit that matters like reproductive rights and healthcare.

Any one in Texas, do you remember back in the 1950's when one could find fetuses in trash cans and ...

Charlene comments on Sep 1, 2021:

What ARE the Men of Texas going to do About IT? It was White Men that passed this disgusting Gilead inspired,real life Hand Maids Tale bill..Stop laying the Responsibility Solely on Women. It Does take 2 to make a fetus..

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 1, 2021:

@p-nullifidian "Personally, I wish only women were capable of voting on this particular issue."

Any one in Texas, do you remember back in the 1950's when one could find fetuses in trash cans and ...

Charlene comments on Sep 1, 2021:

What ARE the Men of Texas going to do About IT? It was White Men that passed this disgusting Gilead inspired,real life Hand Maids Tale bill..Stop laying the Responsibility Solely on Women. It Does take 2 to make a fetus..

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 1, 2021:

@p-nullifidian I disagree. Personally, if I were going to place some restriction on how men could vote it would be that they can't vote to prevent a woman from getting an abortion because they don't have the ability to stop it on a personal level. But to be honest, no one should be able to vote to take anyone else's rights away just because they hold a majority. Should white people be allowed to vote to take away black people's rights?

"Today, Texas law SB8 went into effect.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 1, 2021:

So where's the fuckin' Executive Order Joe? Get your fucking pen out instead of flapping your gums. This order should have already been written weeks ago when it was starting to look like they weren't going to act. And you should have signed it last evening to set everyone's mind at ease.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 1, 2021:

@UrsiMajor That's a good question. After 4 years of that orange fuckin' maniac writing an EO for everything I just assume they can do whatever they want with it. He could arrange for transportation for anyone who needs it to get to a neighboring state though. People gonna try to sue the federal government? They can try...

There are cracks forming in the architecture.

FearlessFly comments on Aug 31, 2021:

"Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-news/ "Certain ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 1, 2021:

@powder Your viral load * does * affect both how contagious you are and how sick someone will get for many diseases. Not sure if they know of it's true for Covid or not yet, but it's not a * dumb * assumption. It is actually fairly intuitive. Would you rather have found out you had unprotected sex with a woman that had almost an imperceptible viral load of HIV, but still definitely positive, or with a woman that had a raging HIV infection with a viral count in the millions?

There are cracks forming in the architecture.

FearlessFly comments on Aug 31, 2021:

"Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-news/ "Certain ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 1, 2021:

@powder Also, according to the CDC, the shot * does * reduce transmission. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html

There are cracks forming in the architecture.

FearlessFly comments on Aug 31, 2021:

"Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-news/ "Certain ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 1, 2021:

@powder You've made this argument before and it's a wrong now as it was then. We don't give a fuck * what * you call it. We don't * care * if it meets technical definitions of a vaccine (people could have guessed it wouldn't from the start considering the type of pathogen it is). What matters is that 97% of people dying of Covid are people who didn't take the shot. Where I differ is that while most provaxxers want everyone to take it to reduce death and all of the impacts from it, I rather love that anti-vaxxers are dying off like crazy. While that sentiment seems like pure hatred, it's not. Pragmatically, the more defectors that die off now, the less there will be to fuck shit up when a seriously deadly pandemic starts.

You really have to ask what the fuck our politicians are doing.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

You're right, I wish 100% of the people who were dying were the anti-vaxxers, but sadly, I'll have to settle for 97%. Maybe after the next variant and booster and all children are eligible we can get closer to only having dumb motherfucking moron anti-vaxxers die. Fingers crossed!! Until then, I'll ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@powder If you're starting from 'they won't let me do whatever I want during a global pandemic' I think you've got a REALLY long trip down the road before you even see our taillights in the distance.

You really have to ask what the fuck our politicians are doing.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

You're right, I wish 100% of the people who were dying were the anti-vaxxers, but sadly, I'll have to settle for 97%. Maybe after the next variant and booster and all children are eligible we can get closer to only having dumb motherfucking moron anti-vaxxers die. Fingers crossed!! Until then, I'll ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@powder I mean, none of that shit matters to me, but if that's what it takes to have numbers like yours instead of numbers like ours, I support it. Fuck, our last president prevented people (like doctors) from coming home with his I-don't-like-brown-people travel ban, so you guys really have nothing on us as far as crazy, Nazi, or racism goes. We may not be banned from leaving, but I imagine there's a ton of places we can't go because of the raging covid cesspool we got going on.

Racist Biden! Unbelievable, I don't recall even Trump doing this!

starwatcher-al comments on Aug 31, 2021:

Trump has insulted about 1,000 people, and I'm probably low on the numbers, so I'm not too worried about one slip by Biden. What's your angle here?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@FrayedBear You're welcome. I knew you were rational enough to see it if it was pointed out to you. I don't like when I'm wrong either, but that's why I like when people point it out to me so I can amend my position and start being right.

You really have to ask what the fuck our politicians are doing.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

You're right, I wish 100% of the people who were dying were the anti-vaxxers, but sadly, I'll have to settle for 97%. Maybe after the next variant and booster and all children are eligible we can get closer to only having dumb motherfucking moron anti-vaxxers die. Fingers crossed!! Until then, I'll ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

YOU have nazis? Ha! You don't know what Nazis are if you think your governments control measures over covid makes them Nazis. We have LITERAL Nazis in our streets. They march around in hoods with swastikas, carry torches, chant "Jews will not replace us", organize and vote for white supremacists, hold membership in the KKK. Straight up actual fuckin we-should-be-murdering-them-like-we-did-in-WWII Nazis. Not to mention we had a white supremacist president who tried to subvert democracy after he lost the popular vote by 7 million. Talk to me when your PM refuses to denounce the KKK/ white supremacist groups/ David Duke in debates or interviews.

Racist Biden! Unbelievable, I don't recall even Trump doing this!

starwatcher-al comments on Aug 31, 2021:

Trump has insulted about 1,000 people, and I'm probably low on the numbers, so I'm not too worried about one slip by Biden. What's your angle here?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@FrayedBear I'm not defending Biden, I'm just calling you out on your bullshit.

There are cracks forming in the architecture.

powder comments on Aug 31, 2021:

Hopefully an end to smart arse, holier than thou, calling for discriminatory measures like vaccine passports and a new "us & them" society dynamic antivax memes. But I doubt it.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

What do you expect when you side with the enemy? Traitor.

I guess this is a vent post.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

We're 23rd in the world in Covid deaths per million people at about 2000. They're like 96th with 164. With how many dumb, anti-vaxing motherfuckers we have in this country, you're probably better off in most other places in the world covid-wise (if you're vaccinated).

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@St-Sinner Because covid doesn't give a fuck if you know you had it when you were alive. That's why, AGAIN, I'm talking about DEATHS from covid per million, not cases. If anything, though because you keep bringing it up, our higher testing rate should * LOWER * our death rate because people can know to take more precautions and seek treatment from our superior healthcare system. Yet here we are with a worse death rate per million than over 180 other countries.

I guess this is a vent post.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

We're 23rd in the world in Covid deaths per million people at about 2000. They're like 96th with 164. With how many dumb, anti-vaxing motherfuckers we have in this country, you're probably better off in most other places in the world covid-wise (if you're vaccinated).

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@St-Sinner Who the fuck said I don't like [living in] the US?! I'm simply stating facts. And we can ignore the 'no testing no cases' bullshit. That's why I was quoting deaths per million.

I guess this is a vent post.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

We're 23rd in the world in Covid deaths per million people at about 2000. They're like 96th with 164. With how many dumb, anti-vaxing motherfuckers we have in this country, you're probably better off in most other places in the world covid-wise (if you're vaccinated).

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@St-Sinner I'm not suggesting it, I'm stating the fact that it is... at least based on the numbers we're given and the numbers you thunk we should assume are the real numbers. Even if you want to suggest Thailand only reports 10% of their covid deaths as covid deaths (and somehow hides the other 90% of extra deaths in other ways that are above the norm) they * still * have better numbers than us. Our death per million people IS TWELVE TIMES HIGHER than Thailand, so even if you multiply their stated number by ten ours is still worse (just like the India number you brought up inexplicably).

I guess this is a vent post.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

We're 23rd in the world in Covid deaths per million people at about 2000. They're like 96th with 164. With how many dumb, anti-vaxing motherfuckers we have in this country, you're probably better off in most other places in the world covid-wise (if you're vaccinated).

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@St-Sinner So you did. Begs the question though, why did you bring India into this exactly? I never said their Healthcare was better than ours, but if you're vaccinated, you're probably better off being in a place with drastically less cases to reduce your chances of getting it in the first place.

I guess this is a vent post.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 31, 2021:

We're 23rd in the world in Covid deaths per million people at about 2000. They're like 96th with 164. With how many dumb, anti-vaxing motherfuckers we have in this country, you're probably better off in most other places in the world covid-wise (if you're vaccinated).

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@St-Sinner Even if your unofficial count is correct and Thailand only records one ninth of their deaths they'd * still * have a lower death per million people than us by 25%. That shows you how shitty and dangerous it is here.

Racist Biden! Unbelievable, I don't recall even Trump doing this!

starwatcher-al comments on Aug 31, 2021:

Trump has insulted about 1,000 people, and I'm probably low on the numbers, so I'm not too worried about one slip by Biden. What's your angle here?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@FrayedBear You say that like this specific verbiage is the only measure of racism, and by extension, that he's more racist than Trump. And you DID compare them. Let me refresh your memory. "Racist Biden! Unbelievable, I don't recall even Trump doing this!" That was, in case you were unaware, the entirety of your written contribution to the post. So, actually, * all * you did was compare. Poorly. Furthermore, if you didn't see people calling Trump racist, you weren't looking. Either way, not an excuse. A simple Google search or Agnostic search would have revealed how much of a total racist pile of shit Trump is. It also speaks VOLUMES about how shitty and one-sided the news sources are you frequent that for almost 6 years since candidacy and many, many decades in the public eye there have been countless stories about him being racist (and every other 'ist' as well) and none of it managed to make its way to your screen, but Biden says something a half year into his presidency and you see it and comment on it immediately.

Racist Biden! Unbelievable, I don't recall even Trump doing this!

starwatcher-al comments on Aug 31, 2021:

Trump has insulted about 1,000 people, and I'm probably low on the numbers, so I'm not too worried about one slip by Biden. What's your angle here?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@FrayedBear First of all, "negros"? Really? Secondly, trying to compare Biden to Trump on the racism spectrum is like trying to compare decapitation to a paper cut on the injury scale. Trump has a lifetime history of being a racist pile of shit and he never slowed down. Third, I don't know what your comment means, but if you couldn't see the video, it was Trump saying, "There's my African-American" the way one would say, "There's my n-----". You're on drugs if you think Biden is more racist than Trump.

Racist Biden! Unbelievable, I don't recall even Trump doing this!

starwatcher-al comments on Aug 31, 2021:

Trump has insulted about 1,000 people, and I'm probably low on the numbers, so I'm not too worried about one slip by Biden. What's your angle here?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 31, 2021:

@FrayedBear https://youtu.be/KcklUUIsdcw

A useless card.

GeorgeRocheleau comments on Aug 30, 2021:

Players sent me a bunch of them.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2021:

@GeorgeRocheleau Both? I'll buy the cards. You can keep the prayers.

A useless card.

GeorgeRocheleau comments on Aug 30, 2021:

Players sent me a bunch of them.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2021:

Magic cards or prayers?

I ask because I care

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 29, 2021:

Why would any girl, especially one that hot, ever have a problem getting dick?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 30, 2021:

@MichelleGar1 That's like the one that can't. No way to compromise...

I ask because I care

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 29, 2021:

Why would any girl, especially one that hot, ever have a problem getting dick?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@MichelleGar1 I'd take that over losing the love of my life because nothing except a disagreement on whether to have kids and then being hopelessly single most likely until I die. Just sayin'.

Facts make a difference to most people.

powder comments on Aug 29, 2021:

You would hope that is true. Was 99.7% a few days ago, now 99.2%. Which way is the trend going? Look at Israel.. It is good both hospitalisations and deaths are going down, that is a good trend. This is due to the vaccine.........but also other reasons like better treatment, naturally acquired...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@powder Shouldn't matter how it's "sold" (did you mean given away for free). The numbers are the numbers, and if people are too stupid to take it because they're little fucking children that need the shot to be marketed in "just the right way to make them want to take it" then fuck 'em and I'm glad they're leaving our society and gene pool. I'm not celebrating their death because they disagree with me, I'm celebrating it because their existence is causing harm to others and will cause more harm next pandemic, too.

I ask because I care

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 29, 2021:

Why would any girl, especially one that hot, ever have a problem getting dick?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@MichelleGar1 But you could still get dick, right? It's the difference between a kid going to bed without super because he doesn't like what his mommy cooked and a starving kid in Africa who literally eats mud cookies to stave off hunger pangs.

Facts make a difference to most people.

powder comments on Aug 29, 2021:

You would hope that is true. Was 99.7% a few days ago, now 99.2%. Which way is the trend going? Look at Israel.. It is good both hospitalisations and deaths are going down, that is a good trend. This is due to the vaccine.........but also other reasons like better treatment, naturally acquired...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

"The vaccine will protect those that need protection, but not stop this virus." Perfect. People who are selfish and/or stupid will get the virus and hopefully die and people who pitch in and get the vaccine will be fine!!

I ask because I care

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 29, 2021:

Why would any girl, especially one that hot, ever have a problem getting dick?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@St-Sinner I don't know what those things mean, but unless it means that all men in the world suddenly turned gay, I'm pretty sure girls can still get dick at will.

Texas anti-mask movement leader dies of COVID "He initially refused to go to the hospital and get...

Buttercup comments on Aug 29, 2021:

Dumb bastard can't even take the right vitamin, it's D deficiency that associated with poorer outcomes.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@Buttercup Something good already did: there's one less anti-vaxxer in the world!

Instant Pot Bargain (US) There is an 8 QT.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 29, 2021:

In three months it'll be Black Friday. I bought my 8qt. for $50 shipped to my door two years ago. Just sayin'.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@MizJ I lied. I could have sworn it was $50, but it was actually $57 after the slow ship discount. Also, it was 3 years. I can't keep time straight anymore since Covid started.

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creative51 comments on Aug 28, 2021:

I eat pussy, where does that fit in on the food chart?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@SeaGreenEyez You can grab it without consent, but you can't eat it! Got it.

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Donna_I comments on Aug 28, 2021:

ok this is just me. Dexter Morgan as a vegan tickles my funny bone. 😊 For me - I eat at least half my meals vegan mostly for health.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@Donna_I And I guess even my joke was a lie. I forgot I never eat baked potatoes vegan. I smother them in butter and sour cream, sometimes add bacon and cheese too.

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anglophone comments on Aug 28, 2021:

My poultry enjoy their lives while they are alive. I enjoy eating them once I have slaughtered and cooked them. The prevention of suffering to sentient creatures would including banning motorised transport, this to avoid the deaths of billions on insects on windscreens every year, as well as the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@anglophone I do my pork tenderloin with port wine reduction, how about you?

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Scott321 comments on Aug 28, 2021:

When I’ve tried it’s been more about eating healthier than concern for animals, but I get that. Echoing @barjoe steak is a strong allure— Cuban steak sandwich with shoestrings! Doesn’t Dexter eat ham and eggs?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@barjoe Everybody is. That's what I'm saying. My point was, what came first isn't better by default. I'd venture to guess that it's almost always worse because letting the rest of the world trial and error your recipe will most likely result in some improvement. Like right now, the thought of a melty white American over a stringy provolone sounds amazing to me. I never thought to do that, but I'm definitely going to try it. I strongly recommend you try a light smear of cream cheese on one or part of one the next time you make them. It might surprise you, but if not, no big deal, right? Also, for clarification, I did mine with cream cheese AND provolone.

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Scott321 comments on Aug 28, 2021:

When I’ve tried it’s been more about eating healthier than concern for animals, but I get that. Echoing @barjoe steak is a strong allure— Cuban steak sandwich with shoestrings! Doesn’t Dexter eat ham and eggs?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@barjoe Have you tried it? There are plenty of people that will tell you your way is wrong too and that it * has * to have Whiz.

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Scott321 comments on Aug 28, 2021:

When I’ve tried it’s been more about eating healthier than concern for animals, but I get that. Echoing @barjoe steak is a strong allure— Cuban steak sandwich with shoestrings! Doesn’t Dexter eat ham and eggs?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 29, 2021:

@barjoe See, this is what I'm talking about. Everyone has their own idea of how it should be made, but "traditional" has Cheese Whiz according to Wiki. Personally, I'm onions, green peppers, steak on a toasted hoagie with cream cheese that melts into a cheesy sauce, then melted provolone over it all. I would never put Whiz on mine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesesteak And only bagels? Come on bro. There are a million dips that have a cream cheese base and tons of other dishes & desserts that have it as well.

I have two children.

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 28, 2021:

The probability of an unknown person being a certain sex is always very close to 50%, regardless of how many siblings they have of a one sex or the other (e.g. a couple that had 14 children who were all girls still has ~50% chance the next one will be another girl.)

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@waitingforgodo I read the first couple sections and didn't get to the 13/27 part. To be honest, I didn't even see that as an option, just looked for the 1/2 and clicked, but I did say ~50%.

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Scott321 comments on Aug 28, 2021:

When I’ve tried it’s been more about eating healthier than concern for animals, but I get that. Echoing @barjoe steak is a strong allure— Cuban steak sandwich with shoestrings! Doesn’t Dexter eat ham and eggs?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@barjoe "Authentic" is another thing I don't put too much stock in. * I know I used that word earlier, but that was probably misused. * For me, if something tastes better than the "traditional" or "authentic" version, that sounds good to me. So if a cheesesteak has melted cream cheese in it (how I make them at home) instead of Cheese Whiz and it tastes way better, I'm not really concerned some people call it inauthentic. Longo's is pretty tasty. I used to live a 5 min walk from the one in Mentor.

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anglophone comments on Aug 28, 2021:

My poultry enjoy their lives while they are alive. I enjoy eating them once I have slaughtered and cooked them. The prevention of suffering to sentient creatures would including banning motorised transport, this to avoid the deaths of billions on insects on windscreens every year, as well as the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@anglophone See that!

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anglophone comments on Aug 28, 2021:

My poultry enjoy their lives while they are alive. I enjoy eating them once I have slaughtered and cooked them. The prevention of suffering to sentient creatures would including banning motorised transport, this to avoid the deaths of billions on insects on windscreens every year, as well as the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@anglophone Fuck, now I want an Arby's roast beef smothered in Arby's sauce.

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anglophone comments on Aug 28, 2021:

My poultry enjoy their lives while they are alive. I enjoy eating them once I have slaughtered and cooked them. The prevention of suffering to sentient creatures would including banning motorised transport, this to avoid the deaths of billions on insects on windscreens every year, as well as the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@anglophone Yeah, rereading it, it sounds like I should have ended it with, "Eat Arby's".

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powder comments on Aug 28, 2021:

Your assumption on the nature of people here is way off. Look at comments my recent posts. American Exceptionalism rules, not interested in equality for all or basic human rights. Many, a bunch of selfish cunts actually, only interested in their own insular lives. Perhaps Biden can do another ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

He may be referring to me and my desire for anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers to die so they can't cause the same problems next pandemic... except for that American exceptionalism part. That shit ain't me at all. Being proud of shit like that is a dumb as bragging about the color of your eyes or how tall you are.

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DenoPenno comments on Aug 28, 2021:

I tend to eat meat like I always did before but I try to make better choices of it. My opinion of where Corona virus came from seems to favor bad conditions in animal slaughter and I have recently noticed that some bacon is not really fit for human consumption. Greed has done this to us. Everybody ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

I also feel * some * bacon is not fit for my plate, I prefer * all * the bacon.

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Mooolah comments on Aug 28, 2021:

Take a look at the veg groups here to make an assessment. Near vegetarian., Not a fanatic, but I draw the line at anything that has a highly developed nervous system. I will eat a cockroach raw before I'll consume anything that can communicate suffering. As science updates, so will I adjust.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

What happens when we discover plants can communicate suffering (spoiler, some scientists say they already have)? Give Jainism a go?

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Gwendolyn2018 comments on Aug 28, 2021:

Why do you want to know?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

Cause he's better than us, duh...

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Donna_I comments on Aug 28, 2021:

ok this is just me. Dexter Morgan as a vegan tickles my funny bone. 😊 For me - I eat at least half my meals vegan mostly for health.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

Half of most of my meals are vegan, too. The half of the plate that has the baked potato and asparagus sides for my grilled ribeye!

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anglophone comments on Aug 28, 2021:

My poultry enjoy their lives while they are alive. I enjoy eating them once I have slaughtered and cooked them. The prevention of suffering to sentient creatures would including banning motorised transport, this to avoid the deaths of billions on insects on windscreens every year, as well as the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

Insects? How about all the adorable squirrels, chipmunks, bunnies, geese, turtles, etc. that get run over every minute. How about all of the animals that die as a result of deforestation to plant crops and to build roads to drive those crops to market? How about all of the animals that die from our pollution and garbage? The very existence of human life is antithetical to the reduction of suffering for just about every other living thing on the planet.

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BestWithoutGods comments on Aug 28, 2021:

I am vegetarian. I do not like to kill or eat my fellow animals.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@BestWithoutGods Deforestation for, cultivation, harvesting, and transportation of vegetables causes the death and suffering of animals as well. It is quite possible that someone who hunts a deer or raises a cow for slaughter and grows his own vegetables kills WAY fewer animals than most vegetarians. Categorical elimination of animal products from your diet is not the best path to reduce animal suffering.

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Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 28, 2021:

I’m sympathetic to it but I eat meat, chicken and fish mostly but even with that I eat it sparingly. I’m ill informed on how to maintain a healthy vegetarian or vegan diet and I know it. Plant based meat substitutes cost more than meat so it’s like getting punished for making the effort if ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@Willow_Wisp @anglophone I'm wondering if that was a tongue-in-cheek comment, because I've not known Willow to make a logically indefensible argument in earnest.

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Scott321 comments on Aug 28, 2021:

When I’ve tried it’s been more about eating healthier than concern for animals, but I get that. Echoing @barjoe steak is a strong allure— Cuban steak sandwich with shoestrings! Doesn’t Dexter eat ham and eggs?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@barjoe I don't believe in the whole 'you have to be [here] to get a good [food]' argument. I went to Mexico and left the resort to get authentic Mexican, but the best I ever had was in Painesville, Ohio. If you're good in the kitchen and you can source the ingredients you need, it doesn't matter where that kitchen is. Also, the Super Philly at Tommy's Subs in Mentor, Ohio are fuckin' killer. And if pigs have to die so that I can continue to eat Cuban sandwiches, then that's the way its gotta be.

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ChestRockfield comments on Aug 28, 2021:

If the goal is the reduction of suffering of animals, the best things you can possibly do are not reproduce, and eat as small of a quantity of responsibly-sourced calories as possible. The categorical elimination of animal products from your diet is nothing but a banner that reads: I'm more ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@Scott321 It's also the best thing you can do for the environment by a factor of 25. Any time someone with kids tells me I shouldn't be driving a supercharged Cobra or I should be recycling, I get to tell them to go fuck themselves because they're way worse for the environment than I could ever be.

Majority of Atheists Believe There May Be Intelligent Life on Other Planets A recent study ...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 28, 2021:

That would not be a convincing argument because they don't believe god "messed up" when he made humans...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@johnnyrobish I understand that, just didn't think the joke worked because the premise irrelevant. They believe in nonsense, so trying to appeal to their rationality is pointless.

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Dialectic comments on Aug 28, 2021:

Phytoplankton are plants so perhaps she made a mistake.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

I wish, but it went on a tangent about how there could be oxygen in the middle of the desert where there are no bodies of water. Then she got even more perturbed when I said that wind and the fast movement of gas molecules was more than enough to move oxygen into areas and even used her own theory against her when I asked about how many trees are in the middle of the desert.

Because as we all know EVERYONE can be a PERFECT person ALL the time.

altschmerz comments on Aug 27, 2021:

I think there should be a statute of limitations on the offense tweets can give.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 28, 2021:

@altschmerz I can't love kittens and hate humans at the same time?

Because as we all know EVERYONE can be a PERFECT person ALL the time.

altschmerz comments on Aug 27, 2021:

I think there should be a statute of limitations on the offense tweets can give.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 27, 2021:

I kinda agree, but is it variable? Is the length of the statute directly proportional to how offensive the statement? Who decides what the scale is? Seems like this is just a shit world with shit people, and we should all hope a giant asteroid kills the fuck out of every human on the planet as soon as possible. And that's probably one of those comments that would haunt me later... if it wasn't for the fact that I'm on the brink of death anyway.

Pro-Life - New Lincoln Project Video Indictment on Ron DeSantis

nicknotes comments on Aug 27, 2021:

DeSantis wants to be President by getting Trump voters to vote for him. I think he will face a great disappointment.

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 27, 2021:

I could see Trump winning again, but not a Trump clone.

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SeaGreenEyez comments on Aug 26, 2021:

Are you referring to Rachel Dolezal????? (If so, the above post is missing vital information to form an informed opine. If you're not referring to her, there still isn't a one-size-fits-all answer.)

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 27, 2021:

@SeaGreenEyez Wait, are you suggesting that there * aren't * white people with doctoral degrees in the realm of African-American history?

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SeaGreenEyez comments on Aug 26, 2021:

Are you referring to Rachel Dolezal????? (If so, the above post is missing vital information to form an informed opine. If you're not referring to her, there still isn't a one-size-fits-all answer.)

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 26, 2021:

@SeaGreenEyez Diallo doesn't have a PhD, so it wouldn't apply to her anyway. Ignoring anything related to Diallo, what is your answer?

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SeaGreenEyez comments on Aug 26, 2021:

Are you referring to Rachel Dolezal????? (If so, the above post is missing vital information to form an informed opine. If you're not referring to her, there still isn't a one-size-fits-all answer.)

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 26, 2021:

@SeaGreenEyez Again, none of this was about her.

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SeaGreenEyez comments on Aug 26, 2021:

Are you referring to Rachel Dolezal????? (If so, the above post is missing vital information to form an informed opine. If you're not referring to her, there still isn't a one-size-fits-all answer.)

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 26, 2021:

@SeaGreenEyez So if we're saying one could study a subject for near a decade and get a doctoral degree and still not be considered an expert, wouldn't that say more about A, B, & C's ability to recognize an expert and less about the person's actual expertise? There are millions of Americans that believe Fauci is a quack and not an expert in the field of immunology and infectious diseases. Does that make him not an expert? And while you may debate whether or not Ms. Diallo had the "actual" experience of a black woman, she was apparently considered to be * enough * of an expert to teach 5 different college courses, either way, we weren't talking about life experiences, we were taking knowledge/expertise. All that aside, this was not about Diallo. It was a theoretical white person who earned their PhD in African-American studies. Simply put, is saying someone can't be (or is, by default) an expert of something simply because of the color of their skin a racist thing to say?

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SeaGreenEyez comments on Aug 26, 2021:

Are you referring to Rachel Dolezal????? (If so, the above post is missing vital information to form an informed opine. If you're not referring to her, there still isn't a one-size-fits-all answer.)

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 26, 2021:

Well, I'm not really sure in what manner I'd be referring to her, but in any case, I'm not sure why it would matter if it was her or not. What are the factors that you believe make it a racist or non-racist statement?

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Petter comments on Aug 24, 2021:

Seeing racism in everything is often a sign of being racist. If a South African bushman, or an Australian aboriginal, claims to be better suited to survival in semi-desert than a white city dweller, he is not being racist, merely factual. However, there ***are*** some white city dwellers who are ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 26, 2021:

@Petter You're displaying ignorance to several important concepts. One that I questioned you about that you didn't respond to above, and now glossing over the distinction between racial differences and racial disparity.

He did that

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 24, 2021:

People still believe the president is responsible for this?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 25, 2021:

@Ello If you find it insulting that means that you value meaningful statements and claims. However, a claim that you didn't (and apparently can't) support is * not * meaningful. Insults? So easily? Hostile? What the fuck are you taking about? You realize you came to those conclusions based on nothing more than me calling your claim nonsense, several comments after you called my claim ridiculous. Seems a though you're only saying this stuff to distract from the fact that you made an unsupportable claim that seemed to support the OP, got called out, and couldn't back it up.

He did that

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 24, 2021:

People still believe the president is responsible for this?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 25, 2021:

@Ello So no actual examples. No evidence. Pure nonsense. Good to know.

Satire from the Middle.

Lizard_of_Ahaz comments on Aug 18, 2021:

It is the damned so-called middle who keeps selling out to the same Wall Street billionaires that have created this mess... There is a progressive left but we actually have two right-wing parties. The Reagan wing of the DNC headed by the Clintons and the Trump Neo-Nazi wing of the GOP...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 25, 2021:

@dalefvictor I just made this same argument to someone who told me the best things to invest in/stockpile were guns and gold. I told her if shit is so bad US currency isn't worth anything it's likely gold will be worthless too.

He did that

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 24, 2021:

People still believe the president is responsible for this?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 25, 2021:

@Ello That said, * do * you have any evidence of * any * president controlling the price of gas? Or was that statement completely nonsensical conjecture that only served to derail the conversation and waste a bunch of time?

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Petter comments on Aug 24, 2021:

Seeing racism in everything is often a sign of being racist. If a South African bushman, or an Australian aboriginal, claims to be better suited to survival in semi-desert than a white city dweller, he is not being racist, merely factual. However, there ***are*** some white city dwellers who are ...

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 25, 2021:

@Petter You really think modifiable and non-modifiable "categories" are the same thing? Aside from that, I already admitted there are circumstances where claims of X because of skin color Y could be made specifically to provide a non-racist counter-example. These claims are almost exclusively statements of fact though and are not the types of things that usually come up in conversation. * When was the last time you felt the need to mention in conversation that dark-skinned black people are less likely to get sun burned than Irish people? * Also, I have no idea what "allowed racism to dominate" means.

He did that

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 24, 2021:

People still believe the president is responsible for this?

ChestRockfield replies on Aug 25, 2021:

@Ello You need to be clearer who and what you're responding to. You just said, "That is a ridiculous claim", but the last thing I said to you was not a claim. You're not making any sense. You * seemed * to be talking about Biden because the the OP that started this argument IS ABOUT BIDEN. If you have evidence * another * president did this, you should have said 'so-and-so president did such-and-such to influence the price of gas, but I don't have any evidence Biden has done the same.' To simply claim it's possible and present no evidence so we'd know you * weren't * talking about Biden in response to me saying presidents don't control the price of gas would be interpreted by a rational intelligent person as a suggestion * Biden * had done it.