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As a survivor of multiple traumas, MeToo is profoundly important to me.
UpsideDownAgain comments on Oct 25, 2018:
I don't think the fear of false accusation should be dismissed any more than the fear women face of attack. If we are truly going to fix this problem it will be by considering the concerns of both sides and finding solutions that address them both. If we can better protect women from assault *and* ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2018:
@meili Well said.
UpsideDownAgain comments on Oct 25, 2018:
I don't think the fear of false accusation should be dismissed any more than the fear women face of attack. If we are truly going to fix this problem it will be by considering the concerns of both sides and finding solutions that address them both. If we can better protect women from assault *and* ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2018:
@meili Well said.
I think I understood all his words!
MarkWolf comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Where do I find out whether there’s an alternative word for ‘thesaurus’?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2018:
Yes Banking house, it is the original meaning of the word "thesauros" which is also the root word of Treasure
MarkWolf comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Where do I find out whether there’s an alternative word for ‘thesaurus’?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2018:
Yes Banking house, it is the original meaning of the word "thesauros" which is also the root word of Treasure
What is your opinion on infant circumcision?
Green_eyes comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Had both my boys done as babies. Didn’t think twice. My ex had to be done as an adult and was insistent but we had that conversation early on and were both in favor. I wouldn’t say this is violent physical abuse. It’s a medical procedure that takes less than five minutes.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2018:
@Green_eyes Of course I am perfectly aware of the difference, and both are obnoxious, both are the deliberate mutation of the genital organs of an infant BY AMPUTATION with no consent is in no way a false equivalency especially in the context of intent.
Circumcision has nothing to do with hygiene, it is a barbaric religious practice designed to lessen or in the case of FGM obliterate the pleasurable side of "Dirty Sex" and make it simply for procreation.
That you chose to cut off a part of your infant child's body for no good reason, make my appreciation of your proxy choices on their behalf and your "Training" pretty low.
However to return to the original post, and doubly so in your case how can you as a medical professional justify unnecessary and elective surgery.
Green_eyes comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Had both my boys done as babies. Didn’t think twice. My ex had to be done as an adult and was insistent but we had that conversation early on and were both in favor. I wouldn’t say this is violent physical abuse. It’s a medical procedure that takes less than five minutes.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 25, 2018:
@Green_eyes Of course I am perfectly aware of the difference, and both are obnoxious, both are the deliberate mutation of the genital organs of an infant BY AMPUTATION with no consent is in no way a false equivalency especially in the context of intent.
Circumcision has nothing to do with hygiene, it is a barbaric religious practice designed to lessen or in the case of FGM obliterate the pleasurable side of "Dirty Sex" and make it simply for procreation.
That you chose to cut off a part of your infant child's body for no good reason, make my appreciation of your proxy choices on their behalf and your "Training" pretty low.
However to return to the original post, and doubly so in your case how can you as a medical professional justify unnecessary and elective surgery.
What is your opinion on infant circumcision?
Green_eyes comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Had both my boys done as babies. Didn’t think twice. My ex had to be done as an adult and was insistent but we had that conversation early on and were both in favor. I wouldn’t say this is violent physical abuse. It’s a medical procedure that takes less than five minutes.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
For what possible purpose?
Would you have had female circumcision done if they were girls?
If not why not?
This is simply elective involuntary surgery done on an infant, how can you possibly justify that?
Green_eyes comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Had both my boys done as babies. Didn’t think twice. My ex had to be done as an adult and was insistent but we had that conversation early on and were both in favor. I wouldn’t say this is violent physical abuse. It’s a medical procedure that takes less than five minutes.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
For what possible purpose?
Would you have had female circumcision done if they were girls?
If not why not?
This is simply elective involuntary surgery done on an infant, how can you possibly justify that?
What is your opinion on infant circumcision?
Sticks48 comments on Oct 24, 2018:
I have absolutely no problem with my being snipped.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
@Sticks48 fair enough
Sticks48 comments on Oct 24, 2018:
I have absolutely no problem with my being snipped.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
@Sticks48 fair enough
What is your opinion on infant circumcision?
Sticks48 comments on Oct 24, 2018:
I have absolutely no problem with my being snipped.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
@Sticks48 Good for you, but you must admit you have never had the chance to compare, you simply had a fait accompli dumped on you.
I personally find the idea of infant genital mutilation horrific in men and women.
Sticks48 comments on Oct 24, 2018:
I have absolutely no problem with my being snipped.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
@Sticks48 Good for you, but you must admit you have never had the chance to compare, you simply had a fait accompli dumped on you.
I personally find the idea of infant genital mutilation horrific in men and women.
Donald Trump used a word he's 'not supposed to.' Here's why. - CNNPolitics
Dietl comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Trump (two weeks later): "Not only am I a Nationalist, I also believe in social programs like the school system. So I'm also a kind of Socialist. I'm a National Socialist, what's wrong with that? Being a Nazi just means you think highly of your country while also supporting the school system."
This...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
Clever
Dietl comments on Oct 24, 2018:
Trump (two weeks later): "Not only am I a Nationalist, I also believe in social programs like the school system. So I'm also a kind of Socialist. I'm a National Socialist, what's wrong with that? Being a Nazi just means you think highly of your country while also supporting the school system."
This...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
Clever
What is your opinion on infant circumcision?
Sticks48 comments on Oct 24, 2018:
I have absolutely no problem with my being snipped.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
But was it done to you in infancy without your consent?
Sticks48 comments on Oct 24, 2018:
I have absolutely no problem with my being snipped.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
But was it done to you in infancy without your consent?
What do you think would have happened if feudalism would have been left in tact to evolve...
Matias comments on Oct 24, 2018:
It would look like as in Russia, where we witness a modern version of feudalism: Putin is a kind of tzar, with his buddies as vassals who get their "fiefs" (as governors or mayors in the province, or as bosses of Rosneft or Gazprom or any other company).
And if some of them falls out with the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
*trumped up* "fiscal fraud"
LOL that phrase is so much more meaningful these days ;)
Matias comments on Oct 24, 2018:
It would look like as in Russia, where we witness a modern version of feudalism: Putin is a kind of tzar, with his buddies as vassals who get their "fiefs" (as governors or mayors in the province, or as bosses of Rosneft or Gazprom or any other company).
And if some of them falls out with the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 24, 2018:
*trumped up* "fiscal fraud"
LOL that phrase is so much more meaningful these days ;)
First, let me say that the Kavanaugh appointment was a disgrace.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2018:
21st century USA folks
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@genessa No you voted instead for a woman who has been proven a liar on no end of occasions who married a proven liar and adulterer and made excuses for him, then operated a foundation linked to no end of corruption and in contravention of all governmental protocol operated a private server out of her basement and so on and so on.
But even then I would still trust her more than some one who took seriously a group who carried out religious anti magic ritual to protect an alleged sex criminal from the machinations of a coven of witches and did not collapse laughing, but instead put it out a serious story in the MSM.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2018:
21st century USA folks
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@genessa No you voted instead for a woman who has been proven a liar on no end of occasions who married a proven liar and adulterer and made excuses for him, then operated a foundation linked to no end of corruption and in contravention of all governmental protocol operated a private server out of her basement and so on and so on.
But even then I would still trust her more than some one who took seriously a group who carried out religious anti magic ritual to protect an alleged sex criminal from the machinations of a coven of witches and did not collapse laughing, but instead put it out a serious story in the MSM.
First, let me say that the Kavanaugh appointment was a disgrace.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2018:
21st century USA folks
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@genessa Are you saying she is a witch too?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 23, 2018:
21st century USA folks
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@genessa Are you saying she is a witch too?
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@Our_existance I know, I was an abused spouse too, you seem to have fared better than I, I gave up literally everything (except for one guitar, a type writer and six video tapes) to get away from her and it was worth every penny.
I know women can be abusers too.
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@Our_existance I know, I was an abused spouse too, you seem to have fared better than I, I gave up literally everything (except for one guitar, a type writer and six video tapes) to get away from her and it was worth every penny.
I know women can be abusers too.
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@LucyLoohoo My point exactly this is a power trip thing, not a gender issue, and unfortunately a small number of women believe *being a woman* gives them that power by right.
eg.
I can physically abuse a man but he cannot fight back
I can verbally bully a man he cannot stand up to me with out appearing sexist
I can call all men bloody stupid or pigs, they cannot generalize about women
Women can be thought justified in being utterly chauvinist but can never be called sexist because women by definition cannot be sexist.
and now the latest horror.
Accusation by a woman against a man requires a presumption of guilty until proven innocent.
This, ironically, of course is quite literally the mentality of "the Witch Hunt" the greatest crime against women in history.
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 23, 2018:
@LucyLoohoo My point exactly this is a power trip thing, not a gender issue, and unfortunately a small number of women believe *being a woman* gives them that power by right.
eg.
I can physically abuse a man but he cannot fight back
I can verbally bully a man he cannot stand up to me with out appearing sexist
I can call all men bloody stupid or pigs, they cannot generalize about women
Women can be thought justified in being utterly chauvinist but can never be called sexist because women by definition cannot be sexist.
and now the latest horror.
Accusation by a woman against a man requires a presumption of guilty until proven innocent.
This, ironically, of course is quite literally the mentality of "the Witch Hunt" the greatest crime against women in history.
Has anyone ever seen?
RileyStevens comments on Oct 21, 2018:
One of my favorites.
https://youtu.be/gukIa86UAQI
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
wonderful film, one of Vincent price's better performances, plus William Castle could work wonders with nothing budgets.
RileyStevens comments on Oct 21, 2018:
One of my favorites.
https://youtu.be/gukIa86UAQI
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
wonderful film, one of Vincent price's better performances, plus William Castle could work wonders with nothing budgets.
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@Our_existance Yes I had a lecturer at university who was a total Misandrist, I was the only man in her psychology of humour class and when it appeared I was going to get a higher mark than any of her other students "Lost" ten pages of my module essay and marked me down, fortunately I had lodged a second copy and was able to prove a complaint against her, but in the time taken to resolve the issue and bring a complaint against her the secondary marker could only increase my grade by 10% and so I lost out on my 1st by only a few points.
Irrational prejudice is hard to prove, but it's effects can be devastating.
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@Our_existance Yes I had a lecturer at university who was a total Misandrist, I was the only man in her psychology of humour class and when it appeared I was going to get a higher mark than any of her other students "Lost" ten pages of my module essay and marked me down, fortunately I had lodged a second copy and was able to prove a complaint against her, but in the time taken to resolve the issue and bring a complaint against her the secondary marker could only increase my grade by 10% and so I lost out on my 1st by only a few points.
Irrational prejudice is hard to prove, but it's effects can be devastating.
SPOILERS
S11 E3 - Rosa
Discussion post.
MarvelAnn comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Also, I'd like to say that while I realize Chibnall's showrunner credentials are all in drama...I'm wondering if he knows this is a sci-fi show.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@Aivery completely correct, the reason it stayed a police box was to save money on not having to build a new one every few weeks, incidentally the same goes for why Doctor who has no question mark on the titles as originally intended, the Graphics department charged by the letter and including the space the punctuation mark would have taken the title over ten characters and cost double the price, so it was left off.
MarvelAnn comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Also, I'd like to say that while I realize Chibnall's showrunner credentials are all in drama...I'm wondering if he knows this is a sci-fi show.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@Aivery completely correct, the reason it stayed a police box was to save money on not having to build a new one every few weeks, incidentally the same goes for why Doctor who has no question mark on the titles as originally intended, the Graphics department charged by the letter and including the space the punctuation mark would have taken the title over ten characters and cost double the price, so it was left off.
SPOILERS
S11 E3 - Rosa
Discussion post.
MarvelAnn comments on Oct 21, 2018:
I liked the episode. The ending was a bit forced...didn't need the history recap. I think pondering about the bad guy would have been more appropriate.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@MarvelAnn It was co-created by Sydney Newman, head of children's programming at the BBC in 1963 as a replacement for Pathfinders another Kids adventure show, and until the film revival in 1996 was always produced by the BBC children's programming department. It is why the budgets for classic who were always so low.
MarvelAnn comments on Oct 21, 2018:
I liked the episode. The ending was a bit forced...didn't need the history recap. I think pondering about the bad guy would have been more appropriate.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@MarvelAnn It was co-created by Sydney Newman, head of children's programming at the BBC in 1963 as a replacement for Pathfinders another Kids adventure show, and until the film revival in 1996 was always produced by the BBC children's programming department. It is why the budgets for classic who were always so low.
Did you ever have a crush on an animation or in my warped case a puppet?
AtheistReader comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Of course I did. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqWwHI604n4
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@MsDemeanour "She" is a robot
AtheistReader comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Of course I did. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqWwHI604n4
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@MsDemeanour "She" is a robot
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@ailurophile I supposed it refers to the classically masculine traits like bravery, physical prowess, fair and just behaviour to others and emotional control. Which is a course a nonsense if you have ever seen a woman react to her family being threatened, deal with a crisis or break up a fight between siblings without undermining either of them.
But contrarily I know many men who display an abundance of traditionally feminine traits such as gentleness, kindness, nurturing and nursing instinct, natural parenting and empathy.
I believe the perceived imbalance is pretty much a myth brought about by social constructs.
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@ailurophile I supposed it refers to the classically masculine traits like bravery, physical prowess, fair and just behaviour to others and emotional control. Which is a course a nonsense if you have ever seen a woman react to her family being threatened, deal with a crisis or break up a fight between siblings without undermining either of them.
But contrarily I know many men who display an abundance of traditionally feminine traits such as gentleness, kindness, nurturing and nursing instinct, natural parenting and empathy.
I believe the perceived imbalance is pretty much a myth brought about by social constructs.
IMPORTUNE.
Charlene comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Televangelists need to stop imploring people for their hard earned cash. It's importune and degrading to beg for More money..
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
Ah the prosperity gospel, let this be the only commandment **"God Needs Cash"**
Charlene comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Televangelists need to stop imploring people for their hard earned cash. It's importune and degrading to beg for More money..
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
Ah the prosperity gospel, let this be the only commandment **"God Needs Cash"**
IMPORTUNE.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Yes in the English law importuning is the equivalent criminal offence to soliciting when the prostitute is homosexual male .
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@Marionville Yes it is stupid, but apparently a man can solicit another man for sexual intercourse, only importune him for immoral purposes.
Legally sexual intercourse requires the presence of a vagina...apparently.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Yes in the English law importuning is the equivalent criminal offence to soliciting when the prostitute is homosexual male .
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@Marionville Yes it is stupid, but apparently a man can solicit another man for sexual intercourse, only importune him for immoral purposes.
Legally sexual intercourse requires the presence of a vagina...apparently.
IMPORTUNE.
Catrachel1111 comments on Oct 22, 2018:
This word describes the plot of Dr. Seuss' Green Eggs and Ham.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
That Sam I am, that Sam I am, I do not like that Sam I am......
Catrachel1111 comments on Oct 22, 2018:
This word describes the plot of Dr. Seuss' Green Eggs and Ham.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
That Sam I am, that Sam I am, I do not like that Sam I am......
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
glennlab comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Strong women can be sexy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
damn right, and helpful too.
You get much farther in this life withe strong partner than with a passenger.
glennlab comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Strong women can be sexy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
damn right, and helpful too.
You get much farther in this life withe strong partner than with a passenger.
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
coralisthree comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Let our voices be heard!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
Let everyone's voice be heard, so long as they have something helpful and intelligent to say, uneducated loud mouths of either sex would do better to spend some time listening.
coralisthree comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Let our voices be heard!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
Let everyone's voice be heard, so long as they have something helpful and intelligent to say, uneducated loud mouths of either sex would do better to spend some time listening.
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@ailurophile It's called freedom of choice, something we should all have in all situations but are all often denied for reasons of expediency, practicality and legality.
Our_existence comments on Oct 22, 2018:
There's a strong woman which I encourage. Then there are women who can act more like a man then most men. There has to be a balance. Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen is not the right place to be....unless the woman chooses that lifestyle.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@ailurophile It's called freedom of choice, something we should all have in all situations but are all often denied for reasons of expediency, practicality and legality.
I experience this similar sentiment when I date. Suddenly I am "too much, too loud"
silverotter11 comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Oh Yeah! On the job I am one of the crew, I'll stride confidently around, and I am called a bitch when I expect the guys to get the work done before goofing off.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
No if you are the boss or the manager as I was for twenty odd years, both men and women will call you a complete bastard bitch or worse if you tell them to do what they are bloody well paid for, it's part of the job nothing to do with gender.
The worker hats the manager, the manager hates the director, the director hates the proprietor and every on thinks the next one up the ladder it a lazy useless incompetent.
silverotter11 comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Oh Yeah! On the job I am one of the crew, I'll stride confidently around, and I am called a bitch when I expect the guys to get the work done before goofing off.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
No if you are the boss or the manager as I was for twenty odd years, both men and women will call you a complete bastard bitch or worse if you tell them to do what they are bloody well paid for, it's part of the job nothing to do with gender.
The worker hats the manager, the manager hates the director, the director hates the proprietor and every on thinks the next one up the ladder it a lazy useless incompetent.
Today's rant
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate ...
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Okay, counter-rant: you have painted a picture in which identity-based discrimination and oppression are relics of the past. They are not. I can speak better to the American experience than to the British, but the rise of White Christian nationalism in both countries is evidence of my point. ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
You make a lot of fair points, I agree there is not and will never be "Nirvana" I for one would not want it because a benign dictatorship is still a dictatorship, but when the good intentions of the past are discredited by the successor of today and play in to the hands of the oppressors I am so reminded of the words of Kipling
The Disciple
He that hath a Gospel
To loose upon Mankind,
Though he serve it utterly--
Body, soul and mind--
Though he go to Calvary
Daily for its gain--
It is His Disciple
Shall make his labour vain.
He that hath a Gospel
For all earth to own--
Though he etch it on the steel,
Or carve it on the stone--
Not to be misdoubted
Through the after-days--
It is His Disciple
Shall read it many ways.
It is His Disciple
(Ere Those Bones are dust )
Who shall change the Charter,
Who shall split the Trust--
Amplify distinctions,
Rationalize the Claim;
Preaching that the Master
Would have done the same.
It is His Disciple
Who shall tell us how
Much the Master would have scrapped
Had he lived till now--
What he would have modified
Of what he said before.
It is His Disciple
Shall do this and more....
He that hath a Gospel
Whereby Heaven is won
( Carpenter, or cameleer,
Or Maya's dreaming son ),
Many swords shell pierce Him,
Mingling blood with gall;
But His Own Disciple
Shall wound Him worst of all!
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Oct 22, 2018:
Okay, counter-rant: you have painted a picture in which identity-based discrimination and oppression are relics of the past. They are not. I can speak better to the American experience than to the British, but the rise of White Christian nationalism in both countries is evidence of my point. ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
You make a lot of fair points, I agree there is not and will never be "Nirvana" I for one would not want it because a benign dictatorship is still a dictatorship, but when the good intentions of the past are discredited by the successor of today and play in to the hands of the oppressors I am so reminded of the words of Kipling
The Disciple
He that hath a Gospel
To loose upon Mankind,
Though he serve it utterly--
Body, soul and mind--
Though he go to Calvary
Daily for its gain--
It is His Disciple
Shall make his labour vain.
He that hath a Gospel
For all earth to own--
Though he etch it on the steel,
Or carve it on the stone--
Not to be misdoubted
Through the after-days--
It is His Disciple
Shall read it many ways.
It is His Disciple
(Ere Those Bones are dust )
Who shall change the Charter,
Who shall split the Trust--
Amplify distinctions,
Rationalize the Claim;
Preaching that the Master
Would have done the same.
It is His Disciple
Who shall tell us how
Much the Master would have scrapped
Had he lived till now--
What he would have modified
Of what he said before.
It is His Disciple
Shall do this and more....
He that hath a Gospel
Whereby Heaven is won
( Carpenter, or cameleer,
Or Maya's dreaming son ),
Many swords shell pierce Him,
Mingling blood with gall;
But His Own Disciple
Shall wound Him worst of all!
"Human power depends on mass cooperation, mass cooperation depends on manufacturing mass identities ...
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 21, 2018:
No, that was Lenin's idea.
It is shown thruout history that One person, who can lead the masses, is what creates change!
Martin Luther King? Lincoln? Even Hitler? Etc etc etc
Leadership, not "the masses" en masse
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@AnneWimsey Yeah I watched Doctor Who last night too.
Rosa Parks an Übermensch if ever there was one :)
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 21, 2018:
No, that was Lenin's idea.
It is shown thruout history that One person, who can lead the masses, is what creates change!
Martin Luther King? Lincoln? Even Hitler? Etc etc etc
Leadership, not "the masses" en masse
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 22, 2018:
@AnneWimsey Yeah I watched Doctor Who last night too.
Rosa Parks an Übermensch if ever there was one :)
"Human power depends on mass cooperation, mass cooperation depends on manufacturing mass identities ...
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 21, 2018:
No, that was Lenin's idea.
It is shown thruout history that One person, who can lead the masses, is what creates change!
Martin Luther King? Lincoln? Even Hitler? Etc etc etc
Leadership, not "the masses" en masse
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
where the Übermensch leads the herd follows
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 21, 2018:
No, that was Lenin's idea.
It is shown thruout history that One person, who can lead the masses, is what creates change!
Martin Luther King? Lincoln? Even Hitler? Etc etc etc
Leadership, not "the masses" en masse
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
where the Übermensch leads the herd follows
"Human power depends on mass cooperation, mass cooperation depends on manufacturing mass identities ...
LucyLoohoo comments on Oct 21, 2018:
We are a ''story-telling'' species...and a tribal one, too. Put these together and it's not always a good result.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
Pan Narrans.
LucyLoohoo comments on Oct 21, 2018:
We are a ''story-telling'' species...and a tribal one, too. Put these together and it's not always a good result.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
Pan Narrans.
Damn, that was a new personal record for Bob…
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Is it in? Rolf
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
the most soul crushing three words in the history of mankind.
Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Is it in? Rolf
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
the most soul crushing three words in the history of mankind.
2 Kings 2:23-24 (King James Version):
And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going ...
BriWilly comments on Oct 21, 2018:
So who was being called “Baldy”?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
Elisha
BriWilly comments on Oct 21, 2018:
So who was being called “Baldy”?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
Elisha
Genesis 38:9-10
9 Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his ...
Leafhead comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Suicide is the ultimate sin. WTF?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
No wanking is
Leafhead comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Suicide is the ultimate sin. WTF?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
No wanking is
One of us was more pragmatic than the other.
Neither of us has succeeded.
HankSherman comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Roy Rogers and Lash LaRue were my hero's....I even got a bullwhip when I was nine or ten.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
Lash La Rue was so cool when I was a kid, then I grew up and realised I was watching a guy dressed in black leather using a whip a little too expertly
HankSherman comments on Oct 21, 2018:
Roy Rogers and Lash LaRue were my hero's....I even got a bullwhip when I was nine or ten.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
Lash La Rue was so cool when I was a kid, then I grew up and realised I was watching a guy dressed in black leather using a whip a little too expertly
Quote of the day: "Blind believe in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Albert Einstein
gater comments on Oct 19, 2018:
That depends on if the authority is truthful.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
@gater You are saying there is such a thing as objective / universal truth?
gater comments on Oct 19, 2018:
That depends on if the authority is truthful.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
@gater You are saying there is such a thing as objective / universal truth?
Abortions: should there be a time limit?
Marine comments on Oct 20, 2018:
There should be a time limit except for medical reasons for the mother. If the baby has progressed to the point it could survive outside the mother I feel it would be murder also.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
I agree if the being has progressed to the point it can survive outside the mother then it is no longer a termination or an abortion it is induced labour or a Cesarean birth or if death is induced murder, it comes down to the point when your define it as a zygote, an embryo, fetus and a baby.
However until that point, it is the choice of the mother or host if mother is too emotive a term.
Accidental, or unwanted pregnancy ruins lives, pregnancy from rape or desertion also do so. The choice to carry to term either for motherhood or adoption MUST be left with the mother as must be the choice to discontinue the pregnancy, until such point as the survival of the infant is no longer reliant upon her and each case must be assessed with this in mind.
The capability of survival with an acceptable quality of life for both mother and child should I feel be the deciding factor.
Marine comments on Oct 20, 2018:
There should be a time limit except for medical reasons for the mother. If the baby has progressed to the point it could survive outside the mother I feel it would be murder also.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
I agree if the being has progressed to the point it can survive outside the mother then it is no longer a termination or an abortion it is induced labour or a Cesarean birth or if death is induced murder, it comes down to the point when your define it as a zygote, an embryo, fetus and a baby.
However until that point, it is the choice of the mother or host if mother is too emotive a term.
Accidental, or unwanted pregnancy ruins lives, pregnancy from rape or desertion also do so. The choice to carry to term either for motherhood or adoption MUST be left with the mother as must be the choice to discontinue the pregnancy, until such point as the survival of the infant is no longer reliant upon her and each case must be assessed with this in mind.
The capability of survival with an acceptable quality of life for both mother and child should I feel be the deciding factor.
Abortions: should there be a time limit?
Mike1947 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
How about rape or incest? A difficult question......
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
@Renickulous The None Toleration of rape and empathy for the victim of rape is just a "Cultural Bias" that can be overcome with a scientific approach... seriously tell me I misunderstood that disgusting implication, surely you did not mean that?
Mike1947 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
How about rape or incest? A difficult question......
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
@Renickulous The None Toleration of rape and empathy for the victim of rape is just a "Cultural Bias" that can be overcome with a scientific approach... seriously tell me I misunderstood that disgusting implication, surely you did not mean that?
Abortions: should there be a time limit?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
With some individuals the limit for deciding to abort should maybe extended to 73 years
mentioning no names
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
@Gurahl Just to be clear, laughing at you not with you ;)
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
With some individuals the limit for deciding to abort should maybe extended to 73 years
mentioning no names
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 21, 2018:
@Gurahl Just to be clear, laughing at you not with you ;)
Daniel Dennett
GuyKeith comments on Oct 20, 2018:
The Religiously Impaired, however, are experts at Special Pleading.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
all too true
GuyKeith comments on Oct 20, 2018:
The Religiously Impaired, however, are experts at Special Pleading.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
all too true
Quote of the day: "Blind believe in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Albert Einstein
gater comments on Oct 19, 2018:
That depends on if the authority is truthful.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@gater So how else do you ascertain the trustworthiness of the authority?
gater comments on Oct 19, 2018:
That depends on if the authority is truthful.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@gater So how else do you ascertain the trustworthiness of the authority?
GOP Declares War on Women
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
There are in every ideology a small sub section of the oppressed who really like being so, and will be proudly paraded about by the oppressors as proof that they are not anti- what ever.
I recall my own grandmother complaining that if she had to go through bad treatment by men, why should women's ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@LucyLoohoo Love that hat by the way :)
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
There are in every ideology a small sub section of the oppressed who really like being so, and will be proudly paraded about by the oppressors as proof that they are not anti- what ever.
I recall my own grandmother complaining that if she had to go through bad treatment by men, why should women's ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@LucyLoohoo Love that hat by the way :)
GOP Declares War on Women
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
There are in every ideology a small sub section of the oppressed who really like being so, and will be proudly paraded about by the oppressors as proof that they are not anti- what ever.
I recall my own grandmother complaining that if she had to go through bad treatment by men, why should women's ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@LucyLoohoo it was actually more of a comment on the comment by @JackPedigo further down the thread, that despite the behaviour of Trump and co, there will still be right wing women willing to support him even a the cost of selling out the cause of women's rights and dignity if favour of familiar misogyny and a handsome paycheck.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 20, 2018:
There are in every ideology a small sub section of the oppressed who really like being so, and will be proudly paraded about by the oppressors as proof that they are not anti- what ever.
I recall my own grandmother complaining that if she had to go through bad treatment by men, why should women's ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@LucyLoohoo it was actually more of a comment on the comment by @JackPedigo further down the thread, that despite the behaviour of Trump and co, there will still be right wing women willing to support him even a the cost of selling out the cause of women's rights and dignity if favour of familiar misogyny and a handsome paycheck.
Quote of the day: "Blind believe in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Albert Einstein
genessa comments on Oct 19, 2018:
i'm sure that would be "belief," not "believe."
yes, of course. but the key word is "blind," not "belief." it is okay to believe what you're told when you've checked it out, especially if you trust the particular purveyor (but still verify, because even good people can make mistakes). the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@genessa Fair enough, :)
genessa comments on Oct 19, 2018:
i'm sure that would be "belief," not "believe."
yes, of course. but the key word is "blind," not "belief." it is okay to believe what you're told when you've checked it out, especially if you trust the particular purveyor (but still verify, because even good people can make mistakes). the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@genessa Fair enough, :)
Quote of the day: "Blind believe in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Albert Einstein
gater comments on Oct 19, 2018:
That depends on if the authority is truthful.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
It is irrelevant whether the authority is truthful or not, always check, never accept unquestioningly anything, it is both the first step on the road to gullibility and the end of critical thinking.
gater comments on Oct 19, 2018:
That depends on if the authority is truthful.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
It is irrelevant whether the authority is truthful or not, always check, never accept unquestioningly anything, it is both the first step on the road to gullibility and the end of critical thinking.
Quote of the day: "Blind believe in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Albert Einstein
genessa comments on Oct 19, 2018:
i'm sure that would be "belief," not "believe."
yes, of course. but the key word is "blind," not "belief." it is okay to believe what you're told when you've checked it out, especially if you trust the particular purveyor (but still verify, because even good people can make mistakes). the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
It is actually “Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” ― Albert Einstein
The version with Believe is prevalent on the internet and originates from an Indian web site where google translate brought the quote back in to English incorrectly and was unthinkingly copied on to various web sites.
The original quote is easily verifiable.
genessa comments on Oct 19, 2018:
i'm sure that would be "belief," not "believe."
yes, of course. but the key word is "blind," not "belief." it is okay to believe what you're told when you've checked it out, especially if you trust the particular purveyor (but still verify, because even good people can make mistakes). the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
It is actually “Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” ― Albert Einstein
The version with Believe is prevalent on the internet and originates from an Indian web site where google translate brought the quote back in to English incorrectly and was unthinkingly copied on to various web sites.
The original quote is easily verifiable.
anamnesia
the antonym of amnesia being unable to forget anything
mollygirl comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Jorge Luis Borges had a short story called "Funes the Memorious" about a man who is thrown from a horse, becomes crippled but also finds himself unable to forget anything.That interferes with his ability to think abstractly. At the end he exists in something like a fever dream. There is a lot more ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Thanks I look that up
mollygirl comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Jorge Luis Borges had a short story called "Funes the Memorious" about a man who is thrown from a horse, becomes crippled but also finds himself unable to forget anything.That interferes with his ability to think abstractly. At the end he exists in something like a fever dream. There is a lot more ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Thanks I look that up
Touche....;
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
The other one fraught with danger is.....”does my bum look big in this?” The answer must always be “No” ! ?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@Marionville I'm sure there is someone who would have you no other way.
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
The other one fraught with danger is.....”does my bum look big in this?” The answer must always be “No” ! ?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@Marionville I'm sure there is someone who would have you no other way.
GOP Declares War on Women
JackPedigo comments on Oct 20, 2018:
And the women in the GOP? A woman (Susan Hutchinson) is running for the senate seat against Maria Cantwell.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Sad isn't it.
JackPedigo comments on Oct 20, 2018:
And the women in the GOP? A woman (Susan Hutchinson) is running for the senate seat against Maria Cantwell.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Sad isn't it.
Touche....;
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
The other one fraught with danger is.....”does my bum look big in this?” The answer must always be “No” ! ?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Unless the lady in question is black and from new York in which case the correct answer is always "Hell yes" you can even buy butt enhancing pants there
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
The other one fraught with danger is.....”does my bum look big in this?” The answer must always be “No” ! ?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Unless the lady in question is black and from new York in which case the correct answer is always "Hell yes" you can even buy butt enhancing pants there
I was looking for JC but I found this………….
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Can never look at a cartoon of Top Cat without hearing Phil Silver’s voice.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@Marionville So did I as Top cat was based on Bilko, in the same way the Fintstones was based on the Honeymooners. In both cases the cartoon rip off outlasted and became more popular that the original.
Hannah Barbara has a stable of hugely talent voice over artist, for example most people thought Huckleberry hound was voiced by Bing Crosby but was Daws Butler.
The grand old man is Frank Welker he still does cartoon work today at the age of 73 having started off as a teenager his break coming when he was hired to play Fred in Scooby Doo (No one else has ever voiced the character, other than as a child, in over fifty years) but has also played every thing from Odin in Thor cartoons to Nibbler in Futurama and the American roar of Godzilla.
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Can never look at a cartoon of Top Cat without hearing Phil Silver’s voice.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
@Marionville So did I as Top cat was based on Bilko, in the same way the Fintstones was based on the Honeymooners. In both cases the cartoon rip off outlasted and became more popular that the original.
Hannah Barbara has a stable of hugely talent voice over artist, for example most people thought Huckleberry hound was voiced by Bing Crosby but was Daws Butler.
The grand old man is Frank Welker he still does cartoon work today at the age of 73 having started off as a teenager his break coming when he was hired to play Fred in Scooby Doo (No one else has ever voiced the character, other than as a child, in over fifty years) but has also played every thing from Odin in Thor cartoons to Nibbler in Futurama and the American roar of Godzilla.
I was looking for JC but I found this………….
MarlaRochelle comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Loved that cartoon
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Me too
MarlaRochelle comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Loved that cartoon
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Me too
I was looking for JC but I found this………….
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Can never look at a cartoon of Top Cat without hearing Phil Silver’s voice.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
It was actually a brilliant impersonation by voice artist Arnold Stang, however the character of Benny was played by Maurice Gosfield who also played the equivalent part of private Doberman in the Phil Silvers Bilko show.
Marionville comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Can never look at a cartoon of Top Cat without hearing Phil Silver’s voice.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
It was actually a brilliant impersonation by voice artist Arnold Stang, however the character of Benny was played by Maurice Gosfield who also played the equivalent part of private Doberman in the Phil Silvers Bilko show.
TRIPTYCH: trip·tych: (NOUN) a picture or relief carving on three panels, typically hinged together ...
brentan comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Here's an unusual one (I guess it has to be) by Hieronymus Bosch:
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Bosch is by turns both horrifying and fascinating.
brentan comments on Oct 20, 2018:
Here's an unusual one (I guess it has to be) by Hieronymus Bosch:
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
Bosch is by turns both horrifying and fascinating.
Why do theists think that it's OK to try to force their beliefs down my throat when they find out ...
Hyponema comments on Apr 12, 2018:
Everyone has the right of free expression in an open society and that means we all have to tolerate other people's beliefs even if we disagree with them. Theists telling you what they think is OK. That's compatible with tolerance. If they beat you up or refuse you a job then that is not OK. Living ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
"OR... is it that you find people with a passionate commitment to their beliefs irritating because you don't have anything you are committed to as deeply?"
No it is because Christian beliefs are evil and barbaric that I find them irritating, when someone by dint of their fantasy thinks it is okay to tell me and those I love we are EVIL, are going to BURN FOR ALL TIME and are not fit to be around decent people because we don't subscribe to their their sick fantasy, I am going to exorcise my free expression to tell them that if they frighten my kids or grand kids again with that shit, their testicles are going to have a short sharp conversation with my steel toe capped boots so they had better start praying pretty sharpish for their imaginary god to magic them up a jock strap.
Hyponema comments on Apr 12, 2018:
Everyone has the right of free expression in an open society and that means we all have to tolerate other people's beliefs even if we disagree with them. Theists telling you what they think is OK. That's compatible with tolerance. If they beat you up or refuse you a job then that is not OK. Living ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 20, 2018:
"OR... is it that you find people with a passionate commitment to their beliefs irritating because you don't have anything you are committed to as deeply?"
No it is because Christian beliefs are evil and barbaric that I find them irritating, when someone by dint of their fantasy thinks it is okay to tell me and those I love we are EVIL, are going to BURN FOR ALL TIME and are not fit to be around decent people because we don't subscribe to their their sick fantasy, I am going to exorcise my free expression to tell them that if they frighten my kids or grand kids again with that shit, their testicles are going to have a short sharp conversation with my steel toe capped boots so they had better start praying pretty sharpish for their imaginary god to magic them up a jock strap.
For those of you into zombie movies, I am trying to find this one zombie flick that came out around...
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2018:
Can you recall anything else about the film?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
@mistymoon77
here is a copy of the German release poster, does it look familiar?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2018:
Can you recall anything else about the film?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
@mistymoon77
here is a copy of the German release poster, does it look familiar?
For those of you into zombie movies, I am trying to find this one zombie flick that came out around...
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2018:
Can you recall anything else about the film?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
@mistymoon77
Portuguese horror flick, Tomb of the Blind Dead 1972, has Zombie Knights Templar riding grey horses with red cloaks it might be what you are thinking of, it is pretty rare but was a bit of watershed film SFX wise for the time.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 17, 2018:
Can you recall anything else about the film?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
@mistymoon77
Portuguese horror flick, Tomb of the Blind Dead 1972, has Zombie Knights Templar riding grey horses with red cloaks it might be what you are thinking of, it is pretty rare but was a bit of watershed film SFX wise for the time.
Victim blaming is biblical
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin ...
linxminx comments on Oct 17, 2018:
Oh, and she was "in a town." Apparently you can be stoned to death for being in a town. Us women, we're ornery and all...we do horrible things like...be in a town.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
The Bible seems to make it clear that a woman being a woman leads men in to sin, so they should stop being "not men" and then everything will be okie-dokie.
It's just a habit you know, you can break it if you really want to.
linxminx comments on Oct 17, 2018:
Oh, and she was "in a town." Apparently you can be stoned to death for being in a town. Us women, we're ornery and all...we do horrible things like...be in a town.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
The Bible seems to make it clear that a woman being a woman leads men in to sin, so they should stop being "not men" and then everything will be okie-dokie.
It's just a habit you know, you can break it if you really want to.
Victim blaming is biblical
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin ...
Heraclitus comments on Oct 17, 2018:
So if you are mute, or just too freaked out to scream, you are out of luck. What if you scream but no one is near enough to hear you? Do you still get stoned?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
Apparently
Heraclitus comments on Oct 17, 2018:
So if you are mute, or just too freaked out to scream, you are out of luck. What if you scream but no one is near enough to hear you? Do you still get stoned?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 18, 2018:
Apparently
Victim blaming is biblical
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin ...
EMC2 comments on Oct 17, 2018:
What if it is a modern day rape, Just claim fake news rape and mob attack and you are free to roam the country.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2018:
that's if they don't make you a supreme court judge
EMC2 comments on Oct 17, 2018:
What if it is a modern day rape, Just claim fake news rape and mob attack and you are free to roam the country.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2018:
that's if they don't make you a supreme court judge
What if god was an alien?
joeymf86 comments on Oct 16, 2018:
Oh you mean Scientology? All hail Xenu!!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2018:
not a meme a screen shot
joeymf86 comments on Oct 16, 2018:
Oh you mean Scientology? All hail Xenu!!
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 17, 2018:
not a meme a screen shot
Nobody does religious parody better than the Irish! Father Ted.
IrishTxJudy comments on Oct 16, 2018:
Oh my I loved watching that. If you weren’t catholic it was hard to understand. My kids didn’t get it but my late husband and I used to just roll with laughing
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2018:
I was raised by a Salvationist and a Baptist, became Methodist and ended up Mormon and the humour is the same with all clergy, they are all weird misfits, crooks and hypocrites living a lie of a respectable front.
I love Father Ted, best and most ruthless religious parody ever.
IrishTxJudy comments on Oct 16, 2018:
Oh my I loved watching that. If you weren’t catholic it was hard to understand. My kids didn’t get it but my late husband and I used to just roll with laughing
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2018:
I was raised by a Salvationist and a Baptist, became Methodist and ended up Mormon and the humour is the same with all clergy, they are all weird misfits, crooks and hypocrites living a lie of a respectable front.
I love Father Ted, best and most ruthless religious parody ever.
HAGIOGRAPHY: hag-i-og-ra-phy.
Pralina1 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
And it's a Greek word I am pretty sure , Thankyouverymuch ?
I used to hate that word ! Bcz it was actually a real class in high school , not elective either , once a week , study about the holy lives of the holy saints .
Or holy ?Pretty much !
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2018:
It is Greek from Hagio = holy and Graphy = writing
Pralina1 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
And it's a Greek word I am pretty sure , Thankyouverymuch ?
I used to hate that word ! Bcz it was actually a real class in high school , not elective either , once a week , study about the holy lives of the holy saints .
Or holy ?Pretty much !
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2018:
It is Greek from Hagio = holy and Graphy = writing
Since it is ONLY less than 10 weeks from Christmas, I need your help.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Okay cannot resit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEJrwYXXsI
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2018:
@GuyKeith
What is really amazing is that this film was taken so serious at the time, it was perhaps the first film ever to have a tie in graphic novel release to promote it
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Okay cannot resit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEJrwYXXsI
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 16, 2018:
@GuyKeith
What is really amazing is that this film was taken so serious at the time, it was perhaps the first film ever to have a tie in graphic novel release to promote it
Since it is ONLY less than 10 weeks from Christmas, I need your help.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever (2014) (Purrrrrrfecty aweful)
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Christmas in Connecticut (1992) (Arnies only film as a director)
A Christmas Horror Story (2015) (William Shatner links four horror stories about a psychotic Santa, Zombie elves, and Krampus)
Kirk Cameron's ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@GuyKeith By the way have you seen the 1959 and 1973 remakes of Miracle on 34th Street, both are truly cringe-worthy.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever (2014) (Purrrrrrfecty aweful)
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Christmas in Connecticut (1992) (Arnies only film as a director)
A Christmas Horror Story (2015) (William Shatner links four horror stories about a psychotic Santa, Zombie elves, and Krampus)
Kirk Cameron's ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@GuyKeith By the way have you seen the 1959 and 1973 remakes of Miracle on 34th Street, both are truly cringe-worthy.
Since it is ONLY less than 10 weeks from Christmas, I need your help.
NoMagicCookie comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Worst of the worst: The Star Wars Christmas Special.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
seconded as simply the worst anything ever put on film
NoMagicCookie comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Worst of the worst: The Star Wars Christmas Special.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
seconded as simply the worst anything ever put on film
Since it is ONLY less than 10 weeks from Christmas, I need your help.
Pralina1 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Hideous .
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
that reminds me of another one
A Carol Christmas (2003) With Tori Spelling, as a female Scrooge called Carol Cartman.
Pralina1 comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Hideous .
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
that reminds me of another one
A Carol Christmas (2003) With Tori Spelling, as a female Scrooge called Carol Cartman.
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
There were several claimants to the title Joshua, rendered in Latin as Iesus and in English as Jesus around the non specific time of the Gospel settings, incidents and sayings from the lives of at least nine of them appear in the Gospels as ascribed to The fictional life stories of the Carpenter of ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Triphid You agreed it was compiled at the first council of Nicaea NOT written there, I admit it was Written Down by scribes but I can't imagine anyone would be so petty as to say that this was actually arguing transcribing and authorship can be confused.
Contending the books comprising the new testament were authored in 325 CE at Nicaea is tantamount to claiming the complete works of Shakespeare was written in 1790 because that was the first time they were collected and published together.
I'll say this one more time your claim that
*** "Er, historical FACT states that the N.T. was written post the Council of Nicaea in 325C.E. ergo, some 3 Centuries after the mythological events were supposed to have occurred." ***
Is incorrect in the context of my post, that the books of the new testament with the exception of the fake Paul epistles, were ALL written within the first centuries after the supposed events took place, but not before 66 C.E. NOT in 325 C.E.
Some editing was done later such as the introduction of the Resurrection story to the gospel of mark as late as the 6th century, but again that is addition and subtraction not authorship.
Now enough of this pointless quibbling.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
There were several claimants to the title Joshua, rendered in Latin as Iesus and in English as Jesus around the non specific time of the Gospel settings, incidents and sayings from the lives of at least nine of them appear in the Gospels as ascribed to The fictional life stories of the Carpenter of ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Triphid You agreed it was compiled at the first council of Nicaea NOT written there, I admit it was Written Down by scribes but I can't imagine anyone would be so petty as to say that this was actually arguing transcribing and authorship can be confused.
Contending the books comprising the new testament were authored in 325 CE at Nicaea is tantamount to claiming the complete works of Shakespeare was written in 1790 because that was the first time they were collected and published together.
I'll say this one more time your claim that
*** "Er, historical FACT states that the N.T. was written post the Council of Nicaea in 325C.E. ergo, some 3 Centuries after the mythological events were supposed to have occurred." ***
Is incorrect in the context of my post, that the books of the new testament with the exception of the fake Paul epistles, were ALL written within the first centuries after the supposed events took place, but not before 66 C.E. NOT in 325 C.E.
Some editing was done later such as the introduction of the Resurrection story to the gospel of mark as late as the 6th century, but again that is addition and subtraction not authorship.
Now enough of this pointless quibbling.
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Jeebus never did. The Romans kept track of every little thing! Not one note refering to him. Outside of the the bible. No one that wrote the bible ever met him! The earliest was Josephous, which was proven to be a forgery for 100's of years! The earliest of people that wrote the bible was about 40 ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Amisja
" I believe this guy existed and the lack of evidence is part of the reason."
I read as far as this and am afraid had to come to conclusion you and I will never even agree to differ because that is perhaps one of the most stupid statements I have every heard.
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Jeebus never did. The Romans kept track of every little thing! Not one note refering to him. Outside of the the bible. No one that wrote the bible ever met him! The earliest was Josephous, which was proven to be a forgery for 100's of years! The earliest of people that wrote the bible was about 40 ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Amisja
" I believe this guy existed and the lack of evidence is part of the reason."
I read as far as this and am afraid had to come to conclusion you and I will never even agree to differ because that is perhaps one of the most stupid statements I have every heard.
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
There were several claimants to the title Joshua, rendered in Latin as Iesus and in English as Jesus around the non specific time of the Gospel settings, incidents and sayings from the lives of at least nine of them appear in the Gospels as ascribed to The fictional life stories of the Carpenter of ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Triphid So you admit you are wrong then, good.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
There were several claimants to the title Joshua, rendered in Latin as Iesus and in English as Jesus around the non specific time of the Gospel settings, incidents and sayings from the lives of at least nine of them appear in the Gospels as ascribed to The fictional life stories of the Carpenter of ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Triphid So you admit you are wrong then, good.
On this day back in 1951 ?❤?
GuyKeith comments on Oct 15, 2018:
I found Lucy to be annoying and Ricky to be wooden, but my father loved this show more than life itself. If for no other reason, just thinking of this show brings a smile to my face. "Speed Her Up!"
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
It was good when Lucy was allowed to shine, for example in the episode where Lucy does a Harpo Marx type routine as a hobo with a cello is hilarious.
GuyKeith comments on Oct 15, 2018:
I found Lucy to be annoying and Ricky to be wooden, but my father loved this show more than life itself. If for no other reason, just thinking of this show brings a smile to my face. "Speed Her Up!"
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
It was good when Lucy was allowed to shine, for example in the episode where Lucy does a Harpo Marx type routine as a hobo with a cello is hilarious.
On this day back in 1951 ?❤?
Lavergne comments on Oct 15, 2018:
I always thought about Lucy when I watch Debra Messing in Will and Grace.....seemed to have that same comedic style.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
There is a noticeable influence from the one on the yes
Lavergne comments on Oct 15, 2018:
I always thought about Lucy when I watch Debra Messing in Will and Grace.....seemed to have that same comedic style.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
There is a noticeable influence from the one on the yes
On this day back in 1951 ?❤?
Gohan comments on Oct 15, 2018:
She helped Gene Roddenberry with his vision when CBS wouldn't fund it.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Sheannutt Yes Series one of Star Trek was a Desilu Production
Gohan comments on Oct 15, 2018:
She helped Gene Roddenberry with his vision when CBS wouldn't fund it.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 15, 2018:
@Sheannutt Yes Series one of Star Trek was a Desilu Production
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
Wangobango3 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Wake the fuck up. P.C. Is just a sideshow, a distraction, while the 1% finish looting the Treasury. The real story of the last couple of decades is the massive transfer of Weath to the Wealthy from everyone else. Keep your eye on the ball.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
One word
Rothschilds
Wangobango3 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Wake the fuck up. P.C. Is just a sideshow, a distraction, while the 1% finish looting the Treasury. The real story of the last couple of decades is the massive transfer of Weath to the Wealthy from everyone else. Keep your eye on the ball.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
One word
Rothschilds
It finally hit me tonight why I like the new series so much so quickly and why it seems so familiar.
LEPeff comments on Oct 14, 2018:
I miss Elizabeth Sladen.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
We all miss her, had she still been alive she could have been the doctor herself ( ;) well maybe)
LEPeff comments on Oct 14, 2018:
I miss Elizabeth Sladen.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
We all miss her, had she still been alive she could have been the doctor herself ( ;) well maybe)
Name your favorite ??
AmiSue comments on Oct 14, 2018:
The Philadelphia Story
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
Love that film
AmiSue comments on Oct 14, 2018:
The Philadelphia Story
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
Love that film
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
jafbm comments on Oct 14, 2018:
I recently finished "Nailed" by David Fitzgerald where basically he says that outside the bible, there is no written evidence of a historical Jesus.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
Excellent book as is The Jesus Myth by G. A. Wells a classic of the theory
jafbm comments on Oct 14, 2018:
I recently finished "Nailed" by David Fitzgerald where basically he says that outside the bible, there is no written evidence of a historical Jesus.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
Excellent book as is The Jesus Myth by G. A. Wells a classic of the theory
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
There were several claimants to the title Joshua, rendered in Latin as Iesus and in English as Jesus around the non specific time of the Gospel settings, incidents and sayings from the lives of at least nine of them appear in the Gospels as ascribed to The fictional life stories of the Carpenter of ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Triphid
I think you may mean the NT was COMPILED after the first council of Nicaea 325C.E from a selection of existing documents many of which were rejected because they were too compliant with the Gnostic, anabaptist or cathar forms of Christianity.
**THAT** *is* a fact. LOOK IT UP
So the general consensus among historians is that of the four gospels Mark was written about 66 CE, Luke slightly later and was a contemporary of Matthew, John was the last written on Patmos at about 120, going by the dating of some of the philosophy espoused in the gospel.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 14, 2018:
There were several claimants to the title Joshua, rendered in Latin as Iesus and in English as Jesus around the non specific time of the Gospel settings, incidents and sayings from the lives of at least nine of them appear in the Gospels as ascribed to The fictional life stories of the Carpenter of ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Triphid
I think you may mean the NT was COMPILED after the first council of Nicaea 325C.E from a selection of existing documents many of which were rejected because they were too compliant with the Gnostic, anabaptist or cathar forms of Christianity.
**THAT** *is* a fact. LOOK IT UP
So the general consensus among historians is that of the four gospels Mark was written about 66 CE, Luke slightly later and was a contemporary of Matthew, John was the last written on Patmos at about 120, going by the dating of some of the philosophy espoused in the gospel.
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
Amisja comments on Oct 14, 2018:
I believe the person of Jesus probably existed.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Amisja That Jesus the teacher is not Jesus of Nazareth he is the Jesus of the apocryphal book the wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach which was removed from the protestant canon so as not to "confuse" the faithful
Amisja comments on Oct 14, 2018:
I believe the person of Jesus probably existed.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Amisja That Jesus the teacher is not Jesus of Nazareth he is the Jesus of the apocryphal book the wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach which was removed from the protestant canon so as not to "confuse" the faithful
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Jeebus never did. The Romans kept track of every little thing! Not one note refering to him. Outside of the the bible. No one that wrote the bible ever met him! The earliest was Josephous, which was proven to be a forgery for 100's of years! The earliest of people that wrote the bible was about 40 ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Amisja No there is one section on one page that mentions Jesus in the whole of Josephus and almost everyone agrees it is a later insert, what is interesting is that Josephus dedicated a whole undisputed chapter to John the Baptist and all that HE is described as being believed to be the messiah and certainly NO ONE's herald.
TheGreatShadow comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Jeebus never did. The Romans kept track of every little thing! Not one note refering to him. Outside of the the bible. No one that wrote the bible ever met him! The earliest was Josephous, which was proven to be a forgery for 100's of years! The earliest of people that wrote the bible was about 40 ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Amisja No there is one section on one page that mentions Jesus in the whole of Josephus and almost everyone agrees it is a later insert, what is interesting is that Josephus dedicated a whole undisputed chapter to John the Baptist and all that HE is described as being believed to be the messiah and certainly NO ONE's herald.
Did Jesus actually exist?
yes for yes
no for no
Matias comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Virtually all New Testament scholars and Near East historians, applying the standard criteria of historical investigation, find that the historicity of Jesus is effectively certain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
However, even if we found some definitive evidence that ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
No they find that incidents and sayings ascribed to him are historical, but not all to the same person and not all in the time period between 1 and 33 CE
Matias comments on Oct 14, 2018:
Virtually all New Testament scholars and Near East historians, applying the standard criteria of historical investigation, find that the historicity of Jesus is effectively certain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
However, even if we found some definitive evidence that ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
No they find that incidents and sayings ascribed to him are historical, but not all to the same person and not all in the time period between 1 and 33 CE
Do you accept or reject objective morality?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 12, 2018:
No such thing as objective morality, circumstance should dictate action not moral certitudes.
There is no so called objective moral truth that in one circumstance or another would be considered an act of evil.
My general rule is pragmatic, if an action preserves or creates a greater good in terms...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Lancinator because well being is subjective as well, as I think I pointed out.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 12, 2018:
No such thing as objective morality, circumstance should dictate action not moral certitudes.
There is no so called objective moral truth that in one circumstance or another would be considered an act of evil.
My general rule is pragmatic, if an action preserves or creates a greater good in terms...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
@Lancinator because well being is subjective as well, as I think I pointed out.
I just sat through a vid made of trailers for upcoming movies.
GuyKeith comments on Oct 14, 2018:
If you want some bad writing, try sitting thru 30 minutes of the Lost In Space re-hash. Horrible.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
could not agree more, almost as bad as that Flash Gordon atrocity a few years back that decided what Flash Gordon could really do without was all them there spaceships.
GuyKeith comments on Oct 14, 2018:
If you want some bad writing, try sitting thru 30 minutes of the Lost In Space re-hash. Horrible.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 14, 2018:
could not agree more, almost as bad as that Flash Gordon atrocity a few years back that decided what Flash Gordon could really do without was all them there spaceships.
A Muslim friend whom I know, tells me that I am not a true atheist, atheists don't believe in morals...
Benthoven comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I hate that argument. Hitler was NOT an atheist, and he relied heavily on the church to convince Germans of his legitimacy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
yes Pius XII was all to happy to buddy up with him, even making Hitlers Birthday an official church holiday.
Benthoven comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I hate that argument. Hitler was NOT an atheist, and he relied heavily on the church to convince Germans of his legitimacy.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
yes Pius XII was all to happy to buddy up with him, even making Hitlers Birthday an official church holiday.
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
memorylikeasieve comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I can see where you're coming from with this. I hate to blame white folks, as I'm white, myself, but it was really white activists who started paring things finer and finer, which is how we got things like 'womyn' or the newer 'womxn,' and neologisms like 'herstory' instead of 'history,' not to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@PalacinkyPDX okay, all though I agree with you about The Sun, the Daily Mail and Piers Morgan you're obviously projecting, and so it is impossible to have a rational conversation with, and I have no more time to waste on you. ✌
memorylikeasieve comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I can see where you're coming from with this. I hate to blame white folks, as I'm white, myself, but it was really white activists who started paring things finer and finer, which is how we got things like 'womyn' or the newer 'womxn,' and neologisms like 'herstory' instead of 'history,' not to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@PalacinkyPDX okay, all though I agree with you about The Sun, the Daily Mail and Piers Morgan you're obviously projecting, and so it is impossible to have a rational conversation with, and I have no more time to waste on you. ✌
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
memorylikeasieve comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I can see where you're coming from with this. I hate to blame white folks, as I'm white, myself, but it was really white activists who started paring things finer and finer, which is how we got things like 'womyn' or the newer 'womxn,' and neologisms like 'herstory' instead of 'history,' not to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@PalacinkyPDX look further down the thread you will see I discuss this at some length
memorylikeasieve comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I can see where you're coming from with this. I hate to blame white folks, as I'm white, myself, but it was really white activists who started paring things finer and finer, which is how we got things like 'womyn' or the newer 'womxn,' and neologisms like 'herstory' instead of 'history,' not to ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@PalacinkyPDX look further down the thread you will see I discuss this at some length
Do you accept or reject objective morality?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 12, 2018:
No such thing as objective morality, circumstance should dictate action not moral certitudes.
There is no so called objective moral truth that in one circumstance or another would be considered an act of evil.
My general rule is pragmatic, if an action preserves or creates a greater good in terms...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@Lancinator
Yes absolutely,
to take your example of a child rape, if I witness such and being able to act, do not act, the outcome means my decision was morally wrong as it causes ill being, pain and damage and the blame is as much mine as the perpetrator.
If I do intervene and have to injure or kill the rapist in order to ensure the well being life and safety of the child, I believe that to be a moral act both in the short term for assisting the child and in the long term for preventing recidivism.
However should I murder someone to further my own well being and quality of life, such as for an inheritance, that is an immoral act in the eyes of society as a whole since it sets a bad precedent that should it become universally accepted would lead to the end of said society, though in my eyes for me it might well seem a good idea in the short term, morally justified by my own happiness.
Thus I come to a fairly utilitarian view that actions taken can be judged moral or immoral by their over all implications in both the long run and if applied universally.
This is also why I believe critical thinking should be taught to children at a very young age, understanding and predicting the consequence of your actions is an essential life skill.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 12, 2018:
No such thing as objective morality, circumstance should dictate action not moral certitudes.
There is no so called objective moral truth that in one circumstance or another would be considered an act of evil.
My general rule is pragmatic, if an action preserves or creates a greater good in terms...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@Lancinator
Yes absolutely,
to take your example of a child rape, if I witness such and being able to act, do not act, the outcome means my decision was morally wrong as it causes ill being, pain and damage and the blame is as much mine as the perpetrator.
If I do intervene and have to injure or kill the rapist in order to ensure the well being life and safety of the child, I believe that to be a moral act both in the short term for assisting the child and in the long term for preventing recidivism.
However should I murder someone to further my own well being and quality of life, such as for an inheritance, that is an immoral act in the eyes of society as a whole since it sets a bad precedent that should it become universally accepted would lead to the end of said society, though in my eyes for me it might well seem a good idea in the short term, morally justified by my own happiness.
Thus I come to a fairly utilitarian view that actions taken can be judged moral or immoral by their over all implications in both the long run and if applied universally.
This is also why I believe critical thinking should be taught to children at a very young age, understanding and predicting the consequence of your actions is an essential life skill.
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
Paddypereira comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Many that complaint about others being racist, homophobic, sexist or whatever are often worse than the ones that they criticise. The so called political correct sometimes is used to disguise cowardice. I admire people who can make good criticism, tell the truth that hurts without offending the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Well said
Paddypereira comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Many that complaint about others being racist, homophobic, sexist or whatever are often worse than the ones that they criticise. The so called political correct sometimes is used to disguise cowardice. I admire people who can make good criticism, tell the truth that hurts without offending the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Well said
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
mordant comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I suspect you would not know a real "reign of terror" if you tripped over it. It is not a reign of terror that minority groups get to tell their stories, including stories of actual harms they suffer for merely being different.
But don't worry, if things keep proceeding like they have been in the...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@mordant
Of course it was a hyperbolic metaphor, if that was not obvious given that I had only a few words before paraphrase the slogan of the French revolution, that too is indicative of the knee jerk reaction responses of the overly sensitive state of modern society.
I simply drew a comparison with how good intent can be hijacked and corrupted in to something as bad or worse than that which one initially sought to over throw.
Political correctness, a call for decency tolerance and good fellowship has been taken and turned in to something literally fearful that destroys freedom, destroys lives and inhibits art and creative thought in favour of homogenized conformity, limited speech, thought and action.
mordant comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I suspect you would not know a real "reign of terror" if you tripped over it. It is not a reign of terror that minority groups get to tell their stories, including stories of actual harms they suffer for merely being different.
But don't worry, if things keep proceeding like they have been in the...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@mordant
Of course it was a hyperbolic metaphor, if that was not obvious given that I had only a few words before paraphrase the slogan of the French revolution, that too is indicative of the knee jerk reaction responses of the overly sensitive state of modern society.
I simply drew a comparison with how good intent can be hijacked and corrupted in to something as bad or worse than that which one initially sought to over throw.
Political correctness, a call for decency tolerance and good fellowship has been taken and turned in to something literally fearful that destroys freedom, destroys lives and inhibits art and creative thought in favour of homogenized conformity, limited speech, thought and action.
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
AtheistReader comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Nice. Even though I do not agree 100% (and there is no need to be in perfect agreement) with what you said, I believe you nicely captured the evolution/devolution of that phrase.
The concept of "politically correct" originated from the perspective that there is an objectively accurate way to view...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Thank you, nice to know some people can still be rational.
AtheistReader comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Nice. Even though I do not agree 100% (and there is no need to be in perfect agreement) with what you said, I believe you nicely captured the evolution/devolution of that phrase.
The concept of "politically correct" originated from the perspective that there is an objectively accurate way to view...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Thank you, nice to know some people can still be rational.
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Simple politeness, being courteous, not judging a book by it's cover, anyone?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Spot on
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Simple politeness, being courteous, not judging a book by it's cover, anyone?
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Spot on
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
CoastRiderBill comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I remember first hearing the terms "political correctness, politically correct" about 1992 in Canadian media.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Started in earnest about 1982 in the UK
CoastRiderBill comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I remember first hearing the terms "political correctness, politically correct" about 1992 in Canadian media.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Started in earnest about 1982 in the UK
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
PalacinkyPDX comments on Oct 13, 2018:
"The activists realized they were victims of their own success and had effectively put themselves out of a job. So they began challenging normality as not being PC enough quick enough."
This is utter nonsense. Which activists were 'so successful' they put themselves out of a job? This is a fairy ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
I remember when a woman could not be paid the same as a man by law, when she could be forced to wear inappropriate clothing in the work place as a dress code, when filthy men expected women to take groping as part of the job.
That was stopped, but when that same woman's grand child now claims not being able to go to work with twenty piercings in her face is sexual discrimination and is taken seriously, or that a work colleague saying good morning is sexual harassment, that is demanding special privileged to say nothing of being bloody stupid.
Your obviously have not read my post properly, just quote mined or gone looking for something to complain about.
I was a political activist, and left because of exactly that, when not people start seriously sitting around debating if calling a blackboard a blackboard is racist, because they had F all else to complain about I left.
PalacinkyPDX comments on Oct 13, 2018:
"The activists realized they were victims of their own success and had effectively put themselves out of a job. So they began challenging normality as not being PC enough quick enough."
This is utter nonsense. Which activists were 'so successful' they put themselves out of a job? This is a fairy ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
I remember when a woman could not be paid the same as a man by law, when she could be forced to wear inappropriate clothing in the work place as a dress code, when filthy men expected women to take groping as part of the job.
That was stopped, but when that same woman's grand child now claims not being able to go to work with twenty piercings in her face is sexual discrimination and is taken seriously, or that a work colleague saying good morning is sexual harassment, that is demanding special privileged to say nothing of being bloody stupid.
Your obviously have not read my post properly, just quote mined or gone looking for something to complain about.
I was a political activist, and left because of exactly that, when not people start seriously sitting around debating if calling a blackboard a blackboard is racist, because they had F all else to complain about I left.
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
maturin1919 comments on Oct 13, 2018:
'Political correctness' used to be known as 'treating others with respect'.
Novel concept.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Exactly my point
maturin1919 comments on Oct 13, 2018:
'Political correctness' used to be known as 'treating others with respect'.
Novel concept.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Exactly my point
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
Seeker3CO comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I have yet to meet any individual from a discriminated against group who didn't have a legitimate complaint, hadn't suffered actual harm, due to discrimination. I've never met one who spoke out against "the normal trial of life suffered by everyone" and saw themselves as entitled to special ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
The "a reign of terror" is a period of French history that came out of the well intentioned struggles that lead to the French revolution being utterly corrupted and taken far away from the roots of equality, fraternity, liberty as was imaginably possible.I used it as a metaphor
I was an activist for what is now called political correctness, who is now being consider a bigot apparently for not being politically correct enough, because this today is not what I was fighting for, this is almost a complete inversion, of the tolerance we wanted.
Seeker3CO comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I have yet to meet any individual from a discriminated against group who didn't have a legitimate complaint, hadn't suffered actual harm, due to discrimination. I've never met one who spoke out against "the normal trial of life suffered by everyone" and saw themselves as entitled to special ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
The "a reign of terror" is a period of French history that came out of the well intentioned struggles that lead to the French revolution being utterly corrupted and taken far away from the roots of equality, fraternity, liberty as was imaginably possible.I used it as a metaphor
I was an activist for what is now called political correctness, who is now being consider a bigot apparently for not being politically correct enough, because this today is not what I was fighting for, this is almost a complete inversion, of the tolerance we wanted.
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
Umbral comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Sorry, but with all due respect, this just sounds like yet another diatribe from people that want to justify holding on to outdated opinions. Opinions they know would be looked at unfavorably, so they want everyone else to "loosen up" so they can get away with sowing their little seeds of hate and ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
What outdated opinions am I supposed to be holding on to?
What hate am I preaching?
What are you talking about?
Did you actually read my post?
Umbral comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Sorry, but with all due respect, this just sounds like yet another diatribe from people that want to justify holding on to outdated opinions. Opinions they know would be looked at unfavorably, so they want everyone else to "loosen up" so they can get away with sowing their little seeds of hate and ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
What outdated opinions am I supposed to be holding on to?
What hate am I preaching?
What are you talking about?
Did you actually read my post?
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
zeuser comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Is this a troll? Disapproval of the use of epithets and stereotypes in everyday conversation is not, and never was, a "reign of terror". Inventive explanation, I'll give you that.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Simply a metaphorical comparison, sorry if using the names of actual historical events are beyond you.
zeuser comments on Oct 13, 2018:
Is this a troll? Disapproval of the use of epithets and stereotypes in everyday conversation is not, and never was, a "reign of terror". Inventive explanation, I'll give you that.
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Simply a metaphorical comparison, sorry if using the names of actual historical events are beyond you.
Political correctness was not even the original term it was called Alternate insert target here.
mordant comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I suspect you would not know a real "reign of terror" if you tripped over it. It is not a reign of terror that minority groups get to tell their stories, including stories of actual harms they suffer for merely being different.
But don't worry, if things keep proceeding like they have been in the...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
I was brought up with an Muslim best friend, west Indian neighbors, I'm part Jewish and am married to a disabled druid.
You, know nothing about me, I on the other hand now know you are a presumptuous arrogant loud mouth.
mordant comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I suspect you would not know a real "reign of terror" if you tripped over it. It is not a reign of terror that minority groups get to tell their stories, including stories of actual harms they suffer for merely being different.
But don't worry, if things keep proceeding like they have been in the...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
I was brought up with an Muslim best friend, west Indian neighbors, I'm part Jewish and am married to a disabled druid.
You, know nothing about me, I on the other hand now know you are a presumptuous arrogant loud mouth.
I need help
DenoPenno comments on Oct 13, 2018:
A lifetime of god belief in a world that has god belief is hard to escape from. The best I can say is that it takes time. Remain logical in all things and you can sort it out. What do I mean by logical? OK, how many people do you think raised from the dead? Is there anyone? Do you believe that ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Yes in Clash of the Titan, the original version, awesome film ;)
DenoPenno comments on Oct 13, 2018:
A lifetime of god belief in a world that has god belief is hard to escape from. The best I can say is that it takes time. Remain logical in all things and you can sort it out. What do I mean by logical? OK, how many people do you think raised from the dead? Is there anyone? Do you believe that ...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Yes in Clash of the Titan, the original version, awesome film ;)
I'm 62 and am planning my funeral.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I've told my family to stick me in a bin bag and throw me in the incinerator, cheapest possible funeral, if at all. If people want to have a bit of a piss up to recall what a bastard I was they can feel free to do it at their own expense.
I'll be dead, what does it matter to me what is done with my...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Just had a better idea, cremate me and scatter my ashes over my first wife's front room carpet, it would piss her off no end and she won't be able to hit me for it.
Nah, selfish bitch is already dead, even less fun in death than she was in life.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 13, 2018:
I've told my family to stick me in a bin bag and throw me in the incinerator, cheapest possible funeral, if at all. If people want to have a bit of a piss up to recall what a bastard I was they can feel free to do it at their own expense.
I'll be dead, what does it matter to me what is done with my...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
Just had a better idea, cremate me and scatter my ashes over my first wife's front room carpet, it would piss her off no end and she won't be able to hit me for it.
Nah, selfish bitch is already dead, even less fun in death than she was in life.
Do you accept or reject objective morality?
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 12, 2018:
No such thing as objective morality, circumstance should dictate action not moral certitudes.
There is no so called objective moral truth that in one circumstance or another would be considered an act of evil.
My general rule is pragmatic, if an action preserves or creates a greater good in terms...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@Lancinator
***"So if morality is just based on opinion," ***
Please don't put words in my mouth, it is the trick of the intellectually dishonest, the coward and the liar.
***" You don’t think raping children for example is objectively wrong with regards to morality?"***
Hyperbole is another tool of deceit, so is using irrelevant foul false equivalencies to child rape for the sole purposes of inciting emotional outrage. However if you are going to do it at least have the kindness and decency to be original, at least that way you may at least be amusing.
***"Do you treat moral actions as if it’s like a flavor of ice cream or a music group?"***
Short answer No
Long answer
Had you read my post you would know my feelings on the matter, I explained how I make moral judgement, if you had bothered to think about it you would have understood.
Try this disgusting poor rhetoric on me again and I will block you.
LenHazell53 comments on Oct 12, 2018:
No such thing as objective morality, circumstance should dictate action not moral certitudes.
There is no so called objective moral truth that in one circumstance or another would be considered an act of evil.
My general rule is pragmatic, if an action preserves or creates a greater good in terms...
LenHazell53 replies on Oct 13, 2018:
@Lancinator
***"So if morality is just based on opinion," ***
Please don't put words in my mouth, it is the trick of the intellectually dishonest, the coward and the liar.
***" You don’t think raping children for example is objectively wrong with regards to morality?"***
Hyperbole is another tool of deceit, so is using irrelevant foul false equivalencies to child rape for the sole purposes of inciting emotional outrage. However if you are going to do it at least have the kindness and decency to be original, at least that way you may at least be amusing.
***"Do you treat moral actions as if it’s like a flavor of ice cream or a music group?"***
Short answer No
Long answer
Had you read my post you would know my feelings on the matter, I explained how I make moral judgement, if you had bothered to think about it you would have understood.
Try this disgusting poor rhetoric on me again and I will block you.
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