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"Spiritual not religious" I know this subject has probably been beat to death but having just come ...
mischl comments on Aug 1, 2019:
Most people either don't have a real definition for spirituality or their definition is muddled at best. I subscribe to the "notion" that each living human being has a "spirit" which is what makes a person appear to be alive. It is a form of energy. So by definition, I have one, and you have one. ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
I subscribe to the theory that each living human being has a "spirit" or soul which is what makes a person appear to be more than alive. Can we call it something else to dissociate from the churches? Everything else about the body can be defined in terms of biochemical materials and chemical reaction. This 'thing' is what is left when you take all the materials and reactions away. It cannot exist without those materials and reactions and therefore dies with each individual, unable to float up into the 'ether' or regenerate except through memories in the minds of the living.
mischl comments on Aug 1, 2019:
Most people either don't have a real definition for spirituality or their definition is muddled at best. I subscribe to the "notion" that each living human being has a "spirit" which is what makes a person appear to be alive. It is a form of energy. So by definition, I have one, and you have one. ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
I subscribe to the theory that each living human being has a "spirit" or soul which is what makes a person appear to be more than alive. Can we call it something else to dissociate from the churches? Everything else about the body can be defined in terms of biochemical materials and chemical reaction. This 'thing' is what is left when you take all the materials and reactions away. It cannot exist without those materials and reactions and therefore dies with each individual, unable to float up into the 'ether' or regenerate except through memories in the minds of the living.
"Spiritual not religious" I know this subject has probably been beat to death but having just come ...
Heathenman comments on Aug 1, 2019:
I have read profiles which are, "spiritual". I put them into two different categories after reading their profiles.
Category 1:. They are theists, but don't subscribe to the main stream beliefs.
Category 2:. They are non theists, but they don't want to their family or co workers to know....
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
@lerlo "so their families won't know that they are" OR for a whole variety of reasons feel that their family will be unable to keep up with all their thinking.
Heathenman comments on Aug 1, 2019:
I have read profiles which are, "spiritual". I put them into two different categories after reading their profiles.
Category 1:. They are theists, but don't subscribe to the main stream beliefs.
Category 2:. They are non theists, but they don't want to their family or co workers to know....
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
@lerlo "so their families won't know that they are" OR for a whole variety of reasons feel that their family will be unable to keep up with all their thinking.
"Spiritual not religious" I know this subject has probably been beat to death but having just come ...
Metahuman comments on Aug 2, 2019:
Ive posted this elsewhere. However, i think it bears repeating, and is in context.
"If you are intelligent and reasonable you cannot be the product of a mechanical and meaningless universe.
Figs do not grow on thistles. Grapes do not grow on thorns, and therefore you, as an expression of the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
Most 'products of the universe' e.g.humans , animals, insects, viruses bacteria etc trees, flowers food etc are products of chemical reactions triggered by biochemical messengers with no thought of whether the product will be intelligent or not. Intelligence could therefore be a fluke. Machines are a product of Human intelligence and they prolong our existence as long as we do not turn them on ourselves.
Metahuman comments on Aug 2, 2019:
Ive posted this elsewhere. However, i think it bears repeating, and is in context.
"If you are intelligent and reasonable you cannot be the product of a mechanical and meaningless universe.
Figs do not grow on thistles. Grapes do not grow on thorns, and therefore you, as an expression of the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
Most 'products of the universe' e.g.humans , animals, insects, viruses bacteria etc trees, flowers food etc are products of chemical reactions triggered by biochemical messengers with no thought of whether the product will be intelligent or not. Intelligence could therefore be a fluke. Machines are a product of Human intelligence and they prolong our existence as long as we do not turn them on ourselves.
"Spiritual not religious" I know this subject has probably been beat to death but having just come ...
Mcflewster comments on Aug 1, 2019:
Spiritual to me just means unknown in the sense of unexplained.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
@lerlo Interesting observation about my own religiosity. I belie=ve that we should play them at their own game but get them to reach different conclusions .......... after a very long time .........eventually.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 1, 2019:
Spiritual to me just means unknown in the sense of unexplained.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
@lerlo Interesting observation about my own religiosity. I belie=ve that we should play them at their own game but get them to reach different conclusions .......... after a very long time .........eventually.
"Spiritual not religious" I know this subject has probably been beat to death but having just come ...
Mcflewster comments on Aug 1, 2019:
Spiritual to me just means unknown in the sense of unexplained.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
@lerlo Praying accomplishes nothing directly . Actual thinking about a person more may have effects but "Why should I pray?" when I can reason out solutions?
Mcflewster comments on Aug 1, 2019:
Spiritual to me just means unknown in the sense of unexplained.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 2, 2019:
@lerlo Praying accomplishes nothing directly . Actual thinking about a person more may have effects but "Why should I pray?" when I can reason out solutions?
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
chilehead9 comments on Jul 17, 2019:
The scale seems to be a bit like the Richter scale - each new decimal point requires doubling the total points you've earned prior. At this rate, I just might reach 7.3 sometime this week. Maybe.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 31, 2019:
@chilehead9 No you are a scientist.
chilehead9 comments on Jul 17, 2019:
The scale seems to be a bit like the Richter scale - each new decimal point requires doubling the total points you've earned prior. At this rate, I just might reach 7.3 sometime this week. Maybe.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 31, 2019:
@chilehead9 No you are a scientist.
Just attended, last weekend, a family wedding.
MrBeelzeebubbles comments on Jul 30, 2019:
Can't watch. Makes me hideously maudlin and homesick.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 30, 2019:
It is very effective
MrBeelzeebubbles comments on Jul 30, 2019:
Can't watch. Makes me hideously maudlin and homesick.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 30, 2019:
It is very effective
'BLAME' Is it ever useful?
chalupacabre comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Sure. First one to blame the dog's the one who passed gas.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
This is called an "Old wives" tale in the UK. There have been plenty of old wives passing gas and plenty of dogs wrongly accused.
chalupacabre comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Sure. First one to blame the dog's the one who passed gas.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
This is called an "Old wives" tale in the UK. There have been plenty of old wives passing gas and plenty of dogs wrongly accused.
'BLAME' Is it ever useful?
Jolanta comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Blame can be very justified. Sometimes we just have enough of someones els stuff and have to tell them.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
It is important to involve the instigator of the problem, but does it help to make them feel bad?
Jolanta comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Blame can be very justified. Sometimes we just have enough of someones els stuff and have to tell them.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
It is important to involve the instigator of the problem, but does it help to make them feel bad?
'BLAME' Is it ever useful?
Stevil comments on Jul 23, 2019:
I have worked for a large corporation for the last 14 years. When there is a problem. The object is not to solve the problem, but to find someone to blame for the problem, then when that doesnt fix the problem. Consider some type of solution to the problem.
I think our whole culture in the US ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
"The object is not to solve the problem" I find this amazing.
Stevil comments on Jul 23, 2019:
I have worked for a large corporation for the last 14 years. When there is a problem. The object is not to solve the problem, but to find someone to blame for the problem, then when that doesnt fix the problem. Consider some type of solution to the problem.
I think our whole culture in the US ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
"The object is not to solve the problem" I find this amazing.
'BLAME' Is it ever useful?
Triphid comments on Jul 23, 2019:
I tend to think that we 'blame' each other at many times simply to shift responsibility from ourselves much like the Faithfools do with matters that go wrong and they shift the blame on to the shoulders of anyone except God and themselves.
Who do you blame when, for example, you hit your ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
Working with as many people as possible including the accused would seem sensible idea.
Triphid comments on Jul 23, 2019:
I tend to think that we 'blame' each other at many times simply to shift responsibility from ourselves much like the Faithfools do with matters that go wrong and they shift the blame on to the shoulders of anyone except God and themselves.
Who do you blame when, for example, you hit your ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
Working with as many people as possible including the accused would seem sensible idea.
'BLAME' Is it ever useful?
ToolGuy comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Blame is often what leads to scapegoating. And is different than holding somebody accountable for their behaviour. I looked it up once and it took me to an entry about scapegoating. Ancient villagers and tribes people would bring a goat into their central area and put a blanket with many pockets ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
Interesting posting.
ToolGuy comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Blame is often what leads to scapegoating. And is different than holding somebody accountable for their behaviour. I looked it up once and it took me to an entry about scapegoating. Ancient villagers and tribes people would bring a goat into their central area and put a blanket with many pockets ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
Interesting posting.
'BLAME' Is it ever useful?
indirect76 comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Guilt was invented by religionists? Funny that I feel it despite being a lifelong athiest.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
guilt is their strongest tool. Hell fire is almost as bad.
indirect76 comments on Jul 23, 2019:
Guilt was invented by religionists? Funny that I feel it despite being a lifelong athiest.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
guilt is their strongest tool. Hell fire is almost as bad.
'BLAME' Is it ever useful?
Mofo1953 comments on Jul 24, 2019:
I blame myself.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
bit sad. No offence. Do not know you.
Mofo1953 comments on Jul 24, 2019:
I blame myself.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 24, 2019:
bit sad. No offence. Do not know you.
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 22, 2019:
@linxminx The pattern that you are talking about IS there undeniably but what to do about it is the problem. I feel it will disappear with more democracy and real science. I actually supported what happened in Iraq so that tyrants get the message that their end is near.
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 22, 2019:
@linxminx The pattern that you are talking about IS there undeniably but what to do about it is the problem. I feel it will disappear with more democracy and real science. I actually supported what happened in Iraq so that tyrants get the message that their end is near.
Blair on Brexit.
CeliaVL comments on Jul 22, 2019:
I would rather force Boris Johnson into a General Election.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 22, 2019:
I think it is imperative to get Brexit out of the way first. Who knows the tories may yet destroy themselves with their silly choices of ministerial and leader appointments
CeliaVL comments on Jul 22, 2019:
I would rather force Boris Johnson into a General Election.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 22, 2019:
I think it is imperative to get Brexit out of the way first. Who knows the tories may yet destroy themselves with their silly choices of ministerial and leader appointments
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 21, 2019:
@linxminx I am relieved to hear this as it is a nasty period of history that gave rise to that particular mode of thinking. I really did not get the impression that you would action on that thinking and I was not going to call you out for anything. I personally want people to analyse the power seeking methods that people take particularly if it turns out to be part of human nature which I do not believe it is.That is all good science. This IS part of a science or many with various non racist conclusions.

Please in recommending a book do NOT think that I am calling you a racist or that you will argue racism with me but I attended a lecture called “The return of scientific Racism “ by Adam Rutherford . It was very interesting because he did detail lots of very famous scientists, otherwise good people,who did conclude that there were superior humans throughout the history of science. The important point however is that modern day racists are using the historical { and rejected science} conclusions to dupe their followers into racist action. He concluded by saying that his lecture is going to be published as a book, but the publishers thought it would sell more copies if titled
How to Argue With a Racist: The History and Science You Need to Know
by Adam Rutherford Unfortunately it is not going to be published until 6 Feb 2020 . Details can be seen on the Amazon.co.uk site but not yet on the USA site. 

I promise that if I do talk on this site about racism again on this topic it will be after the publication next Feb. NB I was born only two countries away from Hitler which does make me more sensitive about this.
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 21, 2019:
@linxminx I am relieved to hear this as it is a nasty period of history that gave rise to that particular mode of thinking. I really did not get the impression that you would action on that thinking and I was not going to call you out for anything. I personally want people to analyse the power seeking methods that people take particularly if it turns out to be part of human nature which I do not believe it is.That is all good science. This IS part of a science or many with various non racist conclusions.

Please in recommending a book do NOT think that I am calling you a racist or that you will argue racism with me but I attended a lecture called “The return of scientific Racism “ by Adam Rutherford . It was very interesting because he did detail lots of very famous scientists, otherwise good people,who did conclude that there were superior humans throughout the history of science. The important point however is that modern day racists are using the historical { and rejected science} conclusions to dupe their followers into racist action. He concluded by saying that his lecture is going to be published as a book, but the publishers thought it would sell more copies if titled
How to Argue With a Racist: The History and Science You Need to Know
by Adam Rutherford Unfortunately it is not going to be published until 6 Feb 2020 . Details can be seen on the Amazon.co.uk site but not yet on the USA site. 

I promise that if I do talk on this site about racism again on this topic it will be after the publication next Feb. NB I was born only two countries away from Hitler which does make me more sensitive about this.
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 21, 2019:
@linxminx Sorry but I am serious about the fact that this thinking led to the rise of Hitler. He has obviously not affected your thinking about this. The reason the people you are talking of think they have power is because they did not use honest democratic means to make their gains of power. There is a complete shortage of democracy and science in the population nowadays - leading to your fears. I am going to ask if you would start another thread about this so that it may be discussed more widely and if you could alert me with a message I would be grateful. Hierarchies are never a good thing, even in families, although of course abilities vary within any group. I do not think this myself about America but the reason people hate Americans throughout the world is precisely because
"In America, people try very hard to find a way to pronounce their superiority over others."
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 21, 2019:
@linxminx Sorry but I am serious about the fact that this thinking led to the rise of Hitler. He has obviously not affected your thinking about this. The reason the people you are talking of think they have power is because they did not use honest democratic means to make their gains of power. There is a complete shortage of democracy and science in the population nowadays - leading to your fears. I am going to ask if you would start another thread about this so that it may be discussed more widely and if you could alert me with a message I would be grateful. Hierarchies are never a good thing, even in families, although of course abilities vary within any group. I do not think this myself about America but the reason people hate Americans throughout the world is precisely because
"In America, people try very hard to find a way to pronounce their superiority over others."
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 20, 2019:
This is frightening. Are you serious? Well you have supporters so I suppose it is a factor we must consider. Once we get rid of false news using science, then I think these people will be quashed.
linxminx comments on Jul 19, 2019:
There would be a different method in which a certain percentage of the population could declare their superiority over others. That seems to be a pronounced need built into human DNA that most people have. To just feel they are better than others, and express it in some form or fashion.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 20, 2019:
This is frightening. Are you serious? Well you have supporters so I suppose it is a factor we must consider. Once we get rid of false news using science, then I think these people will be quashed.
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
St-Sinner comments on Jul 19, 2019:
Women would not listen to men.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Do you mean women would not submit to men?
St-Sinner comments on Jul 19, 2019:
Women would not listen to men.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Do you mean women would not submit to men?
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
QuidamOutrepont comments on Jul 19, 2019:
If we got rid of religions, human nature being unfortunately what it is, we would find other reasons to go to war and doing other senseless stuff.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Not if we found better methods of learning, dialogue and negotiation that worked
QuidamOutrepont comments on Jul 19, 2019:
If we got rid of religions, human nature being unfortunately what it is, we would find other reasons to go to war and doing other senseless stuff.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Not if we found better methods of learning, dialogue and negotiation that worked
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
TheDoubter comments on Jul 19, 2019:
if it weren't religion they would have figured out something else as oppressive
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
You mean like royalty? That is on its way out also.
TheDoubter comments on Jul 19, 2019:
if it weren't religion they would have figured out something else as oppressive
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
You mean like royalty? That is on its way out also.
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
St-Sinner comments on Jul 19, 2019:
Women would not listen to men.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Cannot see the logic there. Please help.
St-Sinner comments on Jul 19, 2019:
Women would not listen to men.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Cannot see the logic there. Please help.
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
oldFloyd comments on Jul 19, 2019:
I can only "imagine"
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
You really are not that limited.
oldFloyd comments on Jul 19, 2019:
I can only "imagine"
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
You really are not that limited.
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 19, 2019:
The world is full of some people trying to take advantage of other people. Religion is just one of many tools to do that, one of many.
So, most likely, same shit different day.
On the other hand I think things like Science, Maths, and any other endeavors alike would prosper considerably.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Science, Maths, logic, reason and democracy are our tools. Any others ?
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 19, 2019:
The world is full of some people trying to take advantage of other people. Religion is just one of many tools to do that, one of many.
So, most likely, same shit different day.
On the other hand I think things like Science, Maths, and any other endeavors alike would prosper considerably.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Science, Maths, logic, reason and democracy are our tools. Any others ?
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
Namaste comments on Jul 19, 2019:
I don’t know if it’s possible.....a world without religion, fascinating concept but not realistic.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Let us painstakingly make our views realistic and show endurance as religionists did to install religions
Namaste comments on Jul 19, 2019:
I don’t know if it’s possible.....a world without religion, fascinating concept but not realistic.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Let us painstakingly make our views realistic and show endurance as religionists did to install religions
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
skado comments on Jul 19, 2019:
What is religion?
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
In my opinion religions are the processes of science gone wrong. Some chancers said something about the future and how to behave and from this drew conclusions (e.g. 10 commandments ) and wrote books . Then made the rest of their influenced followers believe that there was a god and that the/she had said these 'holy texts. Rest of it is maintaining and embellishing the story.
skado comments on Jul 19, 2019:
What is religion?
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
In my opinion religions are the processes of science gone wrong. Some chancers said something about the future and how to behave and from this drew conclusions (e.g. 10 commandments ) and wrote books . Then made the rest of their influenced followers believe that there was a god and that the/she had said these 'holy texts. Rest of it is maintaining and embellishing the story.
What do you think the world be like with out religion?
EMC2 comments on Jul 19, 2019:
We can only IMAGINE. To see the people without superstitious guilt, sin and so on would most likely bring out the creativity in us. If we truly saw each other as homo sapiens, we would be one. but then comes this asshole god who says no fun or thinking beyond what that book says
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
No Human is limited to their own imagination except through fear. We can work on positivity and creativity especially in science at any time. Then we could report successes and spread good practice so that the whole world would get to know how to carry things forward themselves.
TRUST HUMANITY.
EMC2 comments on Jul 19, 2019:
We can only IMAGINE. To see the people without superstitious guilt, sin and so on would most likely bring out the creativity in us. If we truly saw each other as homo sapiens, we would be one. but then comes this asshole god who says no fun or thinking beyond what that book says
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
No Human is limited to their own imagination except through fear. We can work on positivity and creativity especially in science at any time. Then we could report successes and spread good practice so that the whole world would get to know how to carry things forward themselves.
TRUST HUMANITY.
Be calm and Behappify
[calmcurious.
Amisja comments on Jul 19, 2019:
'A UK group but...' what does that matter?? Its not substandard if it comes from here.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Nothing about standards. The two countries still do things differently.
Amisja comments on Jul 19, 2019:
'A UK group but...' what does that matter?? Its not substandard if it comes from here.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
Nothing about standards. The two countries still do things differently.
This always made sense to me:
“Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without ...
Matias comments on Jul 19, 2019:
"Humanism" certainly means *more* than this. It means to place humans center stage and see them as something *special*, with special dignity and special rights well set apart from animals. That's the core of "humanism".
Just behaving decently.. . well - apes do it too, sometimes
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
@Cast1es The potential for Humans remains but animals come close second provided one does not expect too much from them.
Matias comments on Jul 19, 2019:
"Humanism" certainly means *more* than this. It means to place humans center stage and see them as something *special*, with special dignity and special rights well set apart from animals. That's the core of "humanism".
Just behaving decently.. . well - apes do it too, sometimes
Mcflewster replies on Jul 19, 2019:
@Cast1es The potential for Humans remains but animals come close second provided one does not expect too much from them.
I am most interested in finding out if anyone came out of a test or exam and said to themselves " I ...
Robecology comments on Jul 15, 2019:
there's 3 levels of testing...and teaching...
1. too easy...
2. Just right
3. Too hard.
The trick is to make testing...and learning...challenging, without appearing too easy nor too difficult.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
@Robecology I am really not disagreeing with you but everyone - able, median and less able candidates must be challenged to produce their best. So putting some "boring" items of assessment is important for inclusiveness. It is worth pointing out that I was a comprehensive teacher I.e mixed ability with no grading or setting . Everyone needs the chance, without being forced, to get the finer points of chemistry and all areas of knowledge. We must not force any leaner into stereotypes. I certainly took a lot of trouble in setting grade boundaries and examining again any candidate near the boundary
Robecology comments on Jul 15, 2019:
there's 3 levels of testing...and teaching...
1. too easy...
2. Just right
3. Too hard.
The trick is to make testing...and learning...challenging, without appearing too easy nor too difficult.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
@Robecology I am really not disagreeing with you but everyone - able, median and less able candidates must be challenged to produce their best. So putting some "boring" items of assessment is important for inclusiveness. It is worth pointing out that I was a comprehensive teacher I.e mixed ability with no grading or setting . Everyone needs the chance, without being forced, to get the finer points of chemistry and all areas of knowledge. We must not force any leaner into stereotypes. I certainly took a lot of trouble in setting grade boundaries and examining again any candidate near the boundary
A team of 20 specialist surgeons, anaesthetists and nurses have just operated to separate 2 year old...
Mcflewster comments on Jul 17, 2019:
A clear God versus science contest. Unfortunately science cannot set out to win this battle just get the twins more Human for their own sakes.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
@Marionville Good idea.
Mcflewster comments on Jul 17, 2019:
A clear God versus science contest. Unfortunately science cannot set out to win this battle just get the twins more Human for their own sakes.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
@Marionville Good idea.
I am most interested in finding out if anyone came out of a test or exam and said to themselves " I ...
Robecology comments on Jul 15, 2019:
there's 3 levels of testing...and teaching...
1. too easy...
2. Just right
3. Too hard.
The trick is to make testing...and learning...challenging, without appearing too easy nor too difficult.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
@Robecology Just enjoyment of testing. Helping people to face their fears.
Robecology comments on Jul 15, 2019:
there's 3 levels of testing...and teaching...
1. too easy...
2. Just right
3. Too hard.
The trick is to make testing...and learning...challenging, without appearing too easy nor too difficult.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
@Robecology Just enjoyment of testing. Helping people to face their fears.
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
chilehead9 comments on Jul 17, 2019:
The scale seems to be a bit like the Richter scale - each new decimal point requires doubling the total points you've earned prior. At this rate, I just might reach 7.3 sometime this week. Maybe.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
Your sense of scientific prediction is terrific. Are you a prophet? (Joke)
chilehead9 comments on Jul 17, 2019:
The scale seems to be a bit like the Richter scale - each new decimal point requires doubling the total points you've earned prior. At this rate, I just might reach 7.3 sometime this week. Maybe.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 17, 2019:
Your sense of scientific prediction is terrific. Are you a prophet? (Joke)
I am most interested in finding out if anyone came out of a test or exam and said to themselves " I ...
Robecology comments on Jul 15, 2019:
there's 3 levels of testing...and teaching...
1. too easy...
2. Just right
3. Too hard.
The trick is to make testing...and learning...challenging, without appearing too easy nor too difficult.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 16, 2019:
I greatly enjoyed an item writing course run by a London University for multiple choice questions. It consisted of having an idea for a question then subjecting it to the group or it to absolutely pulled to pieces I.e. SHREDDED. Very few got though to actual use.
Robecology comments on Jul 15, 2019:
there's 3 levels of testing...and teaching...
1. too easy...
2. Just right
3. Too hard.
The trick is to make testing...and learning...challenging, without appearing too easy nor too difficult.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 16, 2019:
I greatly enjoyed an item writing course run by a London University for multiple choice questions. It consisted of having an idea for a question then subjecting it to the group or it to absolutely pulled to pieces I.e. SHREDDED. Very few got though to actual use.
I am most interested in finding out if anyone came out of a test or exam and said to themselves " I ...
djs64 comments on Jul 15, 2019:
During my doctoral work I felt that way, I spent so much time studying that I felt like saying to my professors “bring it on”.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 16, 2019:
Good feeling.
djs64 comments on Jul 15, 2019:
During my doctoral work I felt that way, I spent so much time studying that I felt like saying to my professors “bring it on”.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 16, 2019:
Good feeling.
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6-6-06 (Seriously folks, if you love your faith, Don’t Read This!!!)...
Mcflewster comments on Jul 15, 2019:
I love the theorising and balance within this post
Mcflewster replies on Jul 15, 2019:
Written in the true spirit of agnosticism!
Mcflewster comments on Jul 15, 2019:
I love the theorising and balance within this post
Mcflewster replies on Jul 15, 2019:
Written in the true spirit of agnosticism!
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
Marionville comments on Jul 13, 2019:
Too much time on my hands has made it relatively painless for me to achieve level 9....but I don’t really pay much attention to the actual points as they tot up, as they are completely meaningless. The prospect of reaching 10 whilst I still have full control of my marbles is remote....so no ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 15, 2019:
@Marionville True but encouragement is a powerful force ....sometimes.
Marionville comments on Jul 13, 2019:
Too much time on my hands has made it relatively painless for me to achieve level 9....but I don’t really pay much attention to the actual points as they tot up, as they are completely meaningless. The prospect of reaching 10 whilst I still have full control of my marbles is remote....so no ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 15, 2019:
@Marionville True but encouragement is a powerful force ....sometimes.
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
Marionville comments on Jul 13, 2019:
Too much time on my hands has made it relatively painless for me to achieve level 9....but I don’t really pay much attention to the actual points as they tot up, as they are completely meaningless. The prospect of reaching 10 whilst I still have full control of my marbles is remote....so no ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 14, 2019:
@Marionville You are so rational. I do not think contributors spend enough time pointing out rationality, logic and reason when they see it.
Marionville comments on Jul 13, 2019:
Too much time on my hands has made it relatively painless for me to achieve level 9....but I don’t really pay much attention to the actual points as they tot up, as they are completely meaningless. The prospect of reaching 10 whilst I still have full control of my marbles is remote....so no ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 14, 2019:
@Marionville You are so rational. I do not think contributors spend enough time pointing out rationality, logic and reason when they see it.
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
Marionville comments on Jul 13, 2019:
Too much time on my hands has made it relatively painless for me to achieve level 9....but I don’t really pay much attention to the actual points as they tot up, as they are completely meaningless. The prospect of reaching 10 whilst I still have full control of my marbles is remote....so no ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 14, 2019:
I am glad that reaching Level 10 is a vision for you. Or is that the wrong word?
Marionville comments on Jul 13, 2019:
Too much time on my hands has made it relatively painless for me to achieve level 9....but I don’t really pay much attention to the actual points as they tot up, as they are completely meaningless. The prospect of reaching 10 whilst I still have full control of my marbles is remote....so no ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 14, 2019:
I am glad that reaching Level 10 is a vision for you. Or is that the wrong word?
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
AmelieMatisse comments on Jul 11, 2019:
I never quite understand the point system. I would be more impressed if it was something like "a member since ---- " and then it would give the year. I would find it much more interesting to know how long people have been committed to this site rather than how many points they have accomplished. ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 12, 2019:
That would tell us much Less about the dedication of the point seeker.
AmelieMatisse comments on Jul 11, 2019:
I never quite understand the point system. I would be more impressed if it was something like "a member since ---- " and then it would give the year. I would find it much more interesting to know how long people have been committed to this site rather than how many points they have accomplished. ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 12, 2019:
That would tell us much Less about the dedication of the point seeker.
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
maturin1919 comments on Jul 11, 2019:
No half-assed levels.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 12, 2019:
That I know. I was looking for a recognition of half the difference 7 to 8.
maturin1919 comments on Jul 11, 2019:
No half-assed levels.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 12, 2019:
That I know. I was looking for a recognition of half the difference 7 to 8.
Which Jump between levels did you find the hardest? Are the gaps fair? I want there to be a 7.5.
Matias comments on Jul 11, 2019:
Another male who is obsessed by status, even if this status is purely symbolic and does not come with real perks.
Relax, dude
Mcflewster replies on Jul 12, 2019:
This is not going to sound convincing, I know, but I will say it anyway. I do not personally think that it is connected to status. It is a measure of something but I would not consider myself in anyway 'above' anyone on any level. I think it is a measure of how much time you have given to making this forum useful to other Human beings. It does show dedication which has been applied without rewards of any kind worth mentioning. I could get my own tee shirt anyway and make it look like I had an elevated level, but why would I want to do that?
Matias comments on Jul 11, 2019:
Another male who is obsessed by status, even if this status is purely symbolic and does not come with real perks.
Relax, dude
Mcflewster replies on Jul 12, 2019:
This is not going to sound convincing, I know, but I will say it anyway. I do not personally think that it is connected to status. It is a measure of something but I would not consider myself in anyway 'above' anyone on any level. I think it is a measure of how much time you have given to making this forum useful to other Human beings. It does show dedication which has been applied without rewards of any kind worth mentioning. I could get my own tee shirt anyway and make it look like I had an elevated level, but why would I want to do that?
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Marionville comments on Jul 11, 2019:
We are entering a new age of servility with regards to the USA....it is clear that any Johnston premiership will allow the Trump administration to either select our ambassador or veto any they don’t approve of. Under Blair we were accused of being US “poodles”, but we will be more like ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 11, 2019:
Once again I admire and full agree with your analysis. This is one of the most difficult skills to get across in my mission to promote science to everyone. Who taught you analysis?
Marionville comments on Jul 11, 2019:
We are entering a new age of servility with regards to the USA....it is clear that any Johnston premiership will allow the Trump administration to either select our ambassador or veto any they don’t approve of. Under Blair we were accused of being US “poodles”, but we will be more like ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 11, 2019:
Once again I admire and full agree with your analysis. This is one of the most difficult skills to get across in my mission to promote science to everyone. Who taught you analysis?
Tory leadership. Which do you think is/are the most important of quality(ies) for a leader.?
Geoffrey51 comments on Jun 28, 2019:
It depends who is being lead!
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
I know that people trying to become more influential politicians do adapt specifically to get elected. But why should they - cannot they think of leading everyone? study human nature without always thinking only of the rich in society.
Geoffrey51 comments on Jun 28, 2019:
It depends who is being lead!
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
I know that people trying to become more influential politicians do adapt specifically to get elected. But why should they - cannot they think of leading everyone? study human nature without always thinking only of the rich in society.
How often are you as optimistic as this?
HankSherman comments on Jun 30, 2019:
These days are hard ones to stay optimistic, however, I think in the long run, basic good of human nature will prevail. Just not sure if it will come in my lifetime.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@HankSherman My mission is to add science to your list. Additionally to decrease the power of philosophy although I wish it no harm as I realise that I have become a bit of a philosopher myself.
HankSherman comments on Jun 30, 2019:
These days are hard ones to stay optimistic, however, I think in the long run, basic good of human nature will prevail. Just not sure if it will come in my lifetime.
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@HankSherman My mission is to add science to your list. Additionally to decrease the power of philosophy although I wish it no harm as I realise that I have become a bit of a philosopher myself.
A useful list for comparison purposes against any individual that crosses your path.
bobwjr comments on Jul 6, 2019:
Yup trump
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
Yup, but honestly I did not have in mind when composing the post.
bobwjr comments on Jul 6, 2019:
Yup trump
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
Yup, but honestly I did not have in mind when composing the post.
Raised religious?
Mcflewster comments on Jul 4, 2019:
At 16 and at the time of confirmation I decided to put God to the test and see if instructions for confirmation would make a difference to my uneasy feelings . They did not. This approach proved to be inherent in me and lead to my career as a science teacher (ages 11 to 18) and my subsequent ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@MrBeelzeebubbles It so happens that the age of confirmation in SOME religions corresponds with the age of the ability of the individual to make a "stand up and be counted" gesture. Isn't real life wonderful? Looking forward to you joining my science teacher's group ??
Mcflewster comments on Jul 4, 2019:
At 16 and at the time of confirmation I decided to put God to the test and see if instructions for confirmation would make a difference to my uneasy feelings . They did not. This approach proved to be inherent in me and lead to my career as a science teacher (ages 11 to 18) and my subsequent ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@MrBeelzeebubbles It so happens that the age of confirmation in SOME religions corresponds with the age of the ability of the individual to make a "stand up and be counted" gesture. Isn't real life wonderful? Looking forward to you joining my science teacher's group ??
Which famous atheist/nonreligious person do you admire the most.
Stilltrying1964 comments on Jun 19, 2019:
Billy Joel. Genius songwriter and performer. The example I use when believers say my lack of success is because I turned away from god. "Oh yeah, then how do you explain Billy Joel's success?" Wouldn't a god just take away his talent for not giving him proper praise? I've just had more than my share...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
We do need someone to re-write the words of all the hymns. Why should the religious corner all the best tunes? Well why should they corner ANY tunes?
Stilltrying1964 comments on Jun 19, 2019:
Billy Joel. Genius songwriter and performer. The example I use when believers say my lack of success is because I turned away from god. "Oh yeah, then how do you explain Billy Joel's success?" Wouldn't a god just take away his talent for not giving him proper praise? I've just had more than my share...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 6, 2019:
We do need someone to re-write the words of all the hymns. Why should the religious corner all the best tunes? Well why should they corner ANY tunes?
Raised religious?
alliwant comments on Jul 4, 2019:
You mentioned the one most important word in understanding faith; "comforting." It is comforting to think that somehow we will never really die. That we will see our dead relatives and friends again. But no one knows for sure, and the reasons for doubt are many. "Live as if you were to die ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 5, 2019:
You have caused me to think "how do I make science comforting?"
alliwant comments on Jul 4, 2019:
You mentioned the one most important word in understanding faith; "comforting." It is comforting to think that somehow we will never really die. That we will see our dead relatives and friends again. But no one knows for sure, and the reasons for doubt are many. "Live as if you were to die ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 5, 2019:
You have caused me to think "how do I make science comforting?"
Raised religious?
Mcflewster comments on Jul 4, 2019:
At 16 and at the time of confirmation I decided to put God to the test and see if instructions for confirmation would make a difference to my uneasy feelings . They did not. This approach proved to be inherent in me and lead to my career as a science teacher (ages 11 to 18) and my subsequent ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 5, 2019:
@MrBeelzeebubbles can you give more details? By message if preferred.
Mcflewster comments on Jul 4, 2019:
At 16 and at the time of confirmation I decided to put God to the test and see if instructions for confirmation would make a difference to my uneasy feelings . They did not. This approach proved to be inherent in me and lead to my career as a science teacher (ages 11 to 18) and my subsequent ...
Mcflewster replies on Jul 5, 2019:
@MrBeelzeebubbles can you give more details? By message if preferred.
My explanation of Brexit mess involving prophecies.
MattHardy comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I thought treaties were deals?
Mcflewster replies on Jun 30, 2019:
My belief is that they are much more detailed, open and correctly formulated by professional civil servants .Also that there is a greater chance of everyone getting benefit from them. I just don't trust the words deal and dealer. Trump seems to have changed the world NOT to ask for treaties
MattHardy comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I thought treaties were deals?
Mcflewster replies on Jun 30, 2019:
My belief is that they are much more detailed, open and correctly formulated by professional civil servants .Also that there is a greater chance of everyone getting benefit from them. I just don't trust the words deal and dealer. Trump seems to have changed the world NOT to ask for treaties
How often are you as optimistic as this?
HankSherman comments on Jun 30, 2019:
These days are hard ones to stay optimistic, however, I think in the long run, basic good of human nature will prevail. Just not sure if it will come in my lifetime.
Mcflewster replies on Jun 30, 2019:
Thanks for the comment on Human nature. How do we make it real for everyone for ever?
HankSherman comments on Jun 30, 2019:
These days are hard ones to stay optimistic, however, I think in the long run, basic good of human nature will prevail. Just not sure if it will come in my lifetime.
Mcflewster replies on Jun 30, 2019:
Thanks for the comment on Human nature. How do we make it real for everyone for ever?
How often are you as optimistic as this?
Allamanda comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I ordered the book - long time since I read any of his.
Mcflewster replies on Jun 30, 2019:
Please tell us your own original creative optimism.
Allamanda comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I ordered the book - long time since I read any of his.
Mcflewster replies on Jun 30, 2019:
Please tell us your own original creative optimism.
Tools to overcome religion.
brentan comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Patience is a fine thing too.
But I really feel you've shown the value of philosophy over science.
Mcflewster replies on Jun 19, 2019:
I accept that philosophy is a natural consequence of people's thoughts and independent thinking. It also produces some fine sayings, but is no use in solving problems and has too much airtime.
brentan comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Patience is a fine thing too.
But I really feel you've shown the value of philosophy over science.
Mcflewster replies on Jun 19, 2019:
I accept that philosophy is a natural consequence of people's thoughts and independent thinking. It also produces some fine sayings, but is no use in solving problems and has too much airtime.
Will you believe the progress?
Marionville comments on May 28, 2019:
This is way too long to watch at present....can’t you just précis it? I can take a proper look myself later.
Mcflewster replies on May 29, 2019:
I am doing it in half hour sessions. Will look into any shorter reports.
Marionville comments on May 28, 2019:
This is way too long to watch at present....can’t you just précis it? I can take a proper look myself later.
Mcflewster replies on May 29, 2019:
I am doing it in half hour sessions. Will look into any shorter reports.
“ We ignore public understanding of science at our peril. ”
Eugenie Scott.
Do you agree?
Heraclitus comments on May 27, 2019:
Agreed. Even though science is significantly more advanced than it was 50 years ago, there is considerable more hostility towards science than there used to be. Not quite sure how we as a society let that happened. Some kids today think they have to choose between believing in God and believing ...
Mcflewster replies on May 28, 2019:
They do not like science because it is Not OWNED by them. It only brings up other scary and worrying questions . It belongs to other people . My aim is to show people how science can be useful to each separate person. A difficult task I admit . Getting use to thinking the science way should be built up from the very simple e.g getting people to appreciate ALL the words in the set of science processes expressed elsewhere in this Group'S postings. There are a lot of other things involved also but I have no class on which to try my ideas so I have become a philosopher of science
Heraclitus comments on May 27, 2019:
Agreed. Even though science is significantly more advanced than it was 50 years ago, there is considerable more hostility towards science than there used to be. Not quite sure how we as a society let that happened. Some kids today think they have to choose between believing in God and believing ...
Mcflewster replies on May 28, 2019:
They do not like science because it is Not OWNED by them. It only brings up other scary and worrying questions . It belongs to other people . My aim is to show people how science can be useful to each separate person. A difficult task I admit . Getting use to thinking the science way should be built up from the very simple e.g getting people to appreciate ALL the words in the set of science processes expressed elsewhere in this Group'S postings. There are a lot of other things involved also but I have no class on which to try my ideas so I have become a philosopher of science
Do you really want to understand people and how they think and believe in general, or are you just ...
powder comments on May 27, 2019:
Think I already understand the how of it. 2 ways we learn are direct experience or being taught. Experience is superior but mostly we are taught/ shown. This is basically how people came to believe what they do.
The why is more difficult but indoctrination combined with peer group pressure is why ...
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
In a way everything we learn from "Experience" should really be called science. Not all science is done in Laboratories. The actual amount that we are taught could be much minimised - people are capable, with good example, of working things out themselves. I am not talking about the very young here of course. Most of what religions try to teach is actually better called PREACHING - meaning that they have worked it out for you and they want you to submit.
powder comments on May 27, 2019:
Think I already understand the how of it. 2 ways we learn are direct experience or being taught. Experience is superior but mostly we are taught/ shown. This is basically how people came to believe what they do.
The why is more difficult but indoctrination combined with peer group pressure is why ...
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
In a way everything we learn from "Experience" should really be called science. Not all science is done in Laboratories. The actual amount that we are taught could be much minimised - people are capable, with good example, of working things out themselves. I am not talking about the very young here of course. Most of what religions try to teach is actually better called PREACHING - meaning that they have worked it out for you and they want you to submit.
Do you really want to understand people and how they think and believe in general, or are you just ...
CallMeDave comments on May 27, 2019:
This is a place for communication/connection, amusement and sometimes intelligent discussion. I don't see much talk involving "how terrible my life is", so this question seems out of place, to me.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
@CallMeDave How terrible ,really - will make an exception for you
CallMeDave comments on May 27, 2019:
This is a place for communication/connection, amusement and sometimes intelligent discussion. I don't see much talk involving "how terrible my life is", so this question seems out of place, to me.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
@CallMeDave How terrible ,really - will make an exception for you
Do you really want to understand people and how they think and believe in general, or are you just ...
Amisja comments on May 27, 2019:
My work is trying to understand people. Never to compare though. My experiences are mine alone. There is so much that goes into creating an adult that we can never understand each other fully.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
Creating an adult is a lot to do with the ability to take on responsibility for all aspects of your own life and family. `in a way welfare state takes away this responsibility and we could find better ways of making sure that people do not fall through holes in safety nets.
Amisja comments on May 27, 2019:
My work is trying to understand people. Never to compare though. My experiences are mine alone. There is so much that goes into creating an adult that we can never understand each other fully.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
Creating an adult is a lot to do with the ability to take on responsibility for all aspects of your own life and family. `in a way welfare state takes away this responsibility and we could find better ways of making sure that people do not fall through holes in safety nets.
Do you really want to understand people and how they think and believe in general, or are you just ...
CallMeDave comments on May 27, 2019:
This is a place for communication/connection, amusement and sometimes intelligent discussion. I don't see much talk involving "how terrible my life is", so this question seems out of place, to me.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
IMO progress can only be made by understanding why people make the choices they do . I have no interest in just hearing about peoples catastrophies which I think is the lifeblood of the gossip and entertainment , scandal and telltale industries. We can usually understand why they do things - sex and money.
CallMeDave comments on May 27, 2019:
This is a place for communication/connection, amusement and sometimes intelligent discussion. I don't see much talk involving "how terrible my life is", so this question seems out of place, to me.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
IMO progress can only be made by understanding why people make the choices they do . I have no interest in just hearing about peoples catastrophies which I think is the lifeblood of the gossip and entertainment , scandal and telltale industries. We can usually understand why they do things - sex and money.
EU elections
it looks there is a clear splt between leavers and remainers in the voting.
Mcflewster comments on May 27, 2019:
Total voters remain is greater than total voters out. It is easy to see why Farage did not publish any policies. Once that is done his position will be nowhere near as strong.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
"Total voters remain is greater than total voters out." For this to be absolutely true Labour would have to throw in its lot committing all to Remain. It really depends on the proportion of retainers and leavers in Labour. I THINK it is about one third leave and two thirds remain. However the prospect of really destroying both Brexit Party and Conservatives by a second referendum ending Brexit SHOULD be the best inducement for labour leavers to convert fully to Labour remainers . What are the chances ?
Mcflewster comments on May 27, 2019:
Total voters remain is greater than total voters out. It is easy to see why Farage did not publish any policies. Once that is done his position will be nowhere near as strong.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
"Total voters remain is greater than total voters out." For this to be absolutely true Labour would have to throw in its lot committing all to Remain. It really depends on the proportion of retainers and leavers in Labour. I THINK it is about one third leave and two thirds remain. However the prospect of really destroying both Brexit Party and Conservatives by a second referendum ending Brexit SHOULD be the best inducement for labour leavers to convert fully to Labour remainers . What are the chances ?
Time to confess, if you wish, whether a problem with authority (perhaps nothing to do with religion)...
bobwjr comments on May 26, 2019:
Not fond of
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
Yes, a lot of rebelling against authority has got us agnostics where we are. Basically we do not like being told what to do and this has prompted more logic and reason. Being brought up in an authoritarian household is the pits though.
bobwjr comments on May 26, 2019:
Not fond of
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
Yes, a lot of rebelling against authority has got us agnostics where we are. Basically we do not like being told what to do and this has prompted more logic and reason. Being brought up in an authoritarian household is the pits though.
Time to confess, if you wish, whether a problem with authority (perhaps nothing to do with religion)...
Aryn comments on May 26, 2019:
I’m an atheist. I don’t have a problem with authority, I have a problem with submission.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
Yes and if one did not have to deal with unhelpful submissions there would be no need for an authority?
Science RULES! Science is not authoritarian. Only people.
Aryn comments on May 26, 2019:
I’m an atheist. I don’t have a problem with authority, I have a problem with submission.
Mcflewster replies on May 27, 2019:
Yes and if one did not have to deal with unhelpful submissions there would be no need for an authority?
Science RULES! Science is not authoritarian. Only people.
From another posting
“ Everyone should be religious, and I don’t care what the religion ...
mordant comments on May 18, 2019:
Eisenhower's administration pushed the notion that being "religious" = being a "patriotic" or "good" American. While it was publicly presented as irrelevant what religion was involved, it was pretty much nudge-wink white Anglo-Saxon protestantism. In those days Catholicism was considered highly ...
Mcflewster replies on May 26, 2019:
Surely he made an observation that many religious people are diligent (using the second sense of the word), which is still possible to verify today, but THEN he inferred form that there was a god. That inference was his mistake since we know that people can be amongst other things diligent (and the rest) without believing in god. There should be no need to tell people there is a god just to make them diligent(and the rest).
mordant comments on May 18, 2019:
Eisenhower's administration pushed the notion that being "religious" = being a "patriotic" or "good" American. While it was publicly presented as irrelevant what religion was involved, it was pretty much nudge-wink white Anglo-Saxon protestantism. In those days Catholicism was considered highly ...
Mcflewster replies on May 26, 2019:
Surely he made an observation that many religious people are diligent (using the second sense of the word), which is still possible to verify today, but THEN he inferred form that there was a god. That inference was his mistake since we know that people can be amongst other things diligent (and the rest) without believing in god. There should be no need to tell people there is a god just to make them diligent(and the rest).
Speaking of cults, this is the Advanced Bonewits Cult Danger Evaluation Frame.
KKGator comments on May 19, 2019:
I am WAY too defiant to be a good candidate for cult membership.
I suck at doing what I'm told.
LOL
Mcflewster replies on May 21, 2019:
Me too. This is our defining characteristic. let us be proud of it.
KKGator comments on May 19, 2019:
I am WAY too defiant to be a good candidate for cult membership.
I suck at doing what I'm told.
LOL
Mcflewster replies on May 21, 2019:
Me too. This is our defining characteristic. let us be proud of it.
From another posting
“ Everyone should be religious, and I don’t care what the religion ...
mordant comments on May 18, 2019:
Eisenhower's administration pushed the notion that being "religious" = being a "patriotic" or "good" American. While it was publicly presented as irrelevant what religion was involved, it was pretty much nudge-wink white Anglo-Saxon protestantism. In those days Catholicism was considered highly ...
Mcflewster replies on May 21, 2019:
@mordant I agree that we do need a definition of what a religion is. It should be one based upon the nature of the conclusions that people reach. Obviously non scientific.
mordant comments on May 18, 2019:
Eisenhower's administration pushed the notion that being "religious" = being a "patriotic" or "good" American. While it was publicly presented as irrelevant what religion was involved, it was pretty much nudge-wink white Anglo-Saxon protestantism. In those days Catholicism was considered highly ...
Mcflewster replies on May 21, 2019:
@mordant I agree that we do need a definition of what a religion is. It should be one based upon the nature of the conclusions that people reach. Obviously non scientific.
From another posting
“ Everyone should be religious, and I don’t care what the religion ...
mordant comments on May 18, 2019:
Eisenhower's administration pushed the notion that being "religious" = being a "patriotic" or "good" American. While it was publicly presented as irrelevant what religion was involved, it was pretty much nudge-wink white Anglo-Saxon protestantism. In those days Catholicism was considered highly ...
Mcflewster replies on May 19, 2019:
The important point in competing with religions for people's mode of thinking, is "Do you think Atheism , agnosticism, Humanism should be religious [in the second meaning of the word] also?"
mordant comments on May 18, 2019:
Eisenhower's administration pushed the notion that being "religious" = being a "patriotic" or "good" American. While it was publicly presented as irrelevant what religion was involved, it was pretty much nudge-wink white Anglo-Saxon protestantism. In those days Catholicism was considered highly ...
Mcflewster replies on May 19, 2019:
The important point in competing with religions for people's mode of thinking, is "Do you think Atheism , agnosticism, Humanism should be religious [in the second meaning of the word] also?"
From another posting
“ Everyone should be religious, and I don’t care what the religion ...
HankSherman comments on May 17, 2019:
Had not this line of of thinking before...of the separate meanings of the word....have used it in many cases, but of course, if someone just ask "are you religious?" I would likely say "no" .....if ask " do you take care of your tools?", I might well say "religiously". ....thought provoking post.
Mcflewster replies on May 18, 2019:
The interest to me is not in whether you are a believer or non believer but in how religions are started. If someone spends a lot of energy convincing you religiously( second meaning) that they seem to know what they are doing , then of course they will gather a lot of followers. To me, the thing they have not been religious (second meaning) about, are the the aspects of science that are important in drawing proper and lasting CONCLUSIONS e.g evidence. There lies bigotry and dogmatism - difficult to remove
HankSherman comments on May 17, 2019:
Had not this line of of thinking before...of the separate meanings of the word....have used it in many cases, but of course, if someone just ask "are you religious?" I would likely say "no" .....if ask " do you take care of your tools?", I might well say "religiously". ....thought provoking post.
Mcflewster replies on May 18, 2019:
The interest to me is not in whether you are a believer or non believer but in how religions are started. If someone spends a lot of energy convincing you religiously( second meaning) that they seem to know what they are doing , then of course they will gather a lot of followers. To me, the thing they have not been religious (second meaning) about, are the the aspects of science that are important in drawing proper and lasting CONCLUSIONS e.g evidence. There lies bigotry and dogmatism - difficult to remove
"I have never wished to cater to the crowd; for what I know they do not approve, and what they ...
Marionville comments on May 14, 2019:
Populist Politics....tactics used by opportunists to gain popularity and gain power. Give the people what they think they need by telling them you can protect them from it.....whatever that is. Politicians with no vision or wish to lead by cohesion and connectivity, but rather by division and ...
Mcflewster replies on May 15, 2019:
An excellent overview.
Marionville comments on May 14, 2019:
Populist Politics....tactics used by opportunists to gain popularity and gain power. Give the people what they think they need by telling them you can protect them from it.....whatever that is. Politicians with no vision or wish to lead by cohesion and connectivity, but rather by division and ...
Mcflewster replies on May 15, 2019:
An excellent overview.
Can we turn something (matter) to nothing?
Mcflewster comments on May 14, 2019:
You actually cannot prove that any defined space contains NOTHING. You have to have a detector to detect the presence of an unknown physical or 'etherial' presence and that detector has not been invented yet for whatever you are thinking about.
Mcflewster replies on May 14, 2019:
@Noor92 It is one thing to worry about whether something exists and another to actually prove it. If you cannot prove it become an agnostic and stop worrying . e.g God
Mcflewster comments on May 14, 2019:
You actually cannot prove that any defined space contains NOTHING. You have to have a detector to detect the presence of an unknown physical or 'etherial' presence and that detector has not been invented yet for whatever you are thinking about.
Mcflewster replies on May 14, 2019:
@Noor92 It is one thing to worry about whether something exists and another to actually prove it. If you cannot prove it become an agnostic and stop worrying . e.g God
Freethinkers from South Asia united in London ! BOBA marches on !!
Marionville comments on Apr 27, 2019:
What is BOBA?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@mufassil Tommy Robinson???
Marionville comments on Apr 27, 2019:
What is BOBA?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@mufassil Tommy Robinson???
The only significant resistance that I have noticed on this site is a tendency to resist joining ...
1of5 comments on Apr 23, 2019:
What have you got to gain from people joining other sites?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Spread the best ideas to diminish the religionists?
1of5 comments on Apr 23, 2019:
What have you got to gain from people joining other sites?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Spread the best ideas to diminish the religionists?
The only significant resistance that I have noticed on this site is a tendency to resist joining ...
rogueflyer comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I've been a member of a local Free Thought group for the past seven years. I've made many good friends parties and attend our bi monthly meeting "religiously". Recommend this to everyone.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
This is good to hear.
rogueflyer comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I've been a member of a local Free Thought group for the past seven years. I've made many good friends parties and attend our bi monthly meeting "religiously". Recommend this to everyone.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
This is good to hear.
The only significant resistance that I have noticed on this site is a tendency to resist joining ...
Allamanda comments on Apr 23, 2019:
what groups are there available? The only one I've seen linked on someone's profile was a Darkweb thing that was alt-right! Many of us do belong to UU, or FFRF or such anyway.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
Sorry I cannot help you there I live in the UK . Please explain the FFRF. The UU -something to do with Unitarians? Darkweb ?? are you sure?
Allamanda comments on Apr 23, 2019:
what groups are there available? The only one I've seen linked on someone's profile was a Darkweb thing that was alt-right! Many of us do belong to UU, or FFRF or such anyway.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
Sorry I cannot help you there I live in the UK . Please explain the FFRF. The UU -something to do with Unitarians? Darkweb ?? are you sure?
It’s pretty simple...one can easily exchange “she” for “he”.
Mcflewster comments on Apr 23, 2019:
i.e learn to read Body Language.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
@MissKathleen Could we agree that actions speak as loud as words?
Mcflewster comments on Apr 23, 2019:
i.e learn to read Body Language.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
@MissKathleen Could we agree that actions speak as loud as words?
How can we encourage people to be more honest about their agnosticism?
JacarC comments on Apr 20, 2019:
"agnosticism"
1 - It is difficult to pronounce.
2 - few really understand what the word means, nor its consequences
3 - mostly can't get elected
4 - got parents who will be embarrassed among their friends
5 - got co-workers who should be investigated
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
point by point replies on agnosticism
1 Only because it is novel and not widely used. You have to find your own way here without grid reference.
2. It means what is says on the tin. I just don't know any of the things you are telling me>
3. Are those that do get elected any better than us? They just have to sound as if they know what they are talking about . We want only that which is essential to know e.g How to be kind.
4. Many parents are now becoming naturists i.e they are learning to deal with their embarrassment.
5. Only one I agree with you about.
JacarC comments on Apr 20, 2019:
"agnosticism"
1 - It is difficult to pronounce.
2 - few really understand what the word means, nor its consequences
3 - mostly can't get elected
4 - got parents who will be embarrassed among their friends
5 - got co-workers who should be investigated
Mcflewster replies on Apr 23, 2019:
point by point replies on agnosticism
1 Only because it is novel and not widely used. You have to find your own way here without grid reference.
2. It means what is says on the tin. I just don't know any of the things you are telling me>
3. Are those that do get elected any better than us? They just have to sound as if they know what they are talking about . We want only that which is essential to know e.g How to be kind.
4. Many parents are now becoming naturists i.e they are learning to deal with their embarrassment.
5. Only one I agree with you about.
Name something that’s perfectly normal to do as a child but super creepy to do as an adult...
AnneWimsey comments on Apr 16, 2019:
Pick your nose whenever....
Mcflewster replies on Apr 16, 2019:
I didn't pick mine it came with the set.
AnneWimsey comments on Apr 16, 2019:
Pick your nose whenever....
Mcflewster replies on Apr 16, 2019:
I didn't pick mine it came with the set.
Best magazine about Atheism
Xuande comments on Apr 14, 2019:
It's funny because if one were to exist, they'd need great insurance. There's a shoe company I follow, Atheist Shoes I think, out of Berlin. Hand-cobbled craftmanship, and I wish I could afford a pair. That said, they talk all the time about how some shipments come up missing, or defaced, even with ...
Mcflewster replies on Apr 15, 2019:
Also in many languages . Leaves a message in the sand . How many people can read these phrases from this clever ruse.?
Xuande comments on Apr 14, 2019:
It's funny because if one were to exist, they'd need great insurance. There's a shoe company I follow, Atheist Shoes I think, out of Berlin. Hand-cobbled craftmanship, and I wish I could afford a pair. That said, they talk all the time about how some shipments come up missing, or defaced, even with ...
Mcflewster replies on Apr 15, 2019:
Also in many languages . Leaves a message in the sand . How many people can read these phrases from this clever ruse.?
Wrong assumptions are the real stumbling blocks in science and in life.
HankSherman comments on Apr 14, 2019:
I have assumed, too often, though not lately, that our government will, eventually, do what is "right" for the American people. On the back side of that, I have assumed, again too often, that the American people would stand and be counted when needed.......fooled me.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 15, 2019:
Please don't give up hope. It is as useful as Faith if correctly placed.
HankSherman comments on Apr 14, 2019:
I have assumed, too often, though not lately, that our government will, eventually, do what is "right" for the American people. On the back side of that, I have assumed, again too often, that the American people would stand and be counted when needed.......fooled me.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 15, 2019:
Please don't give up hope. It is as useful as Faith if correctly placed.
Wrong assumptions are the real stumbling blocks in science and in life.
confidentrealm comments on Apr 14, 2019:
It's wrong to assume that if you love someone they also love you. Happens to me all the time.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 14, 2019:
@confidentrealm Of course it is a vicious circle and there are many like you - but none of that helps. Yours are the natural reactions of everyone and your partners are the ones who have renaged on your expectations. Most people who do find love have to go through pain of some sort and the solution could be as simple as empathy. Anything you have learned which helps you be resilient to pain and practices empathy [Really that means seeing things from the other side] should be helpful . Good luck!
confidentrealm comments on Apr 14, 2019:
It's wrong to assume that if you love someone they also love you. Happens to me all the time.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 14, 2019:
@confidentrealm Of course it is a vicious circle and there are many like you - but none of that helps. Yours are the natural reactions of everyone and your partners are the ones who have renaged on your expectations. Most people who do find love have to go through pain of some sort and the solution could be as simple as empathy. Anything you have learned which helps you be resilient to pain and practices empathy [Really that means seeing things from the other side] should be helpful . Good luck!
Wrong assumptions are the real stumbling blocks in science and in life.
confidentrealm comments on Apr 14, 2019:
It's wrong to assume that if you love someone they also love you. Happens to me all the time.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 14, 2019:
Ever thought what you can do to break the habit? Or is it just that you are programmed that way?
confidentrealm comments on Apr 14, 2019:
It's wrong to assume that if you love someone they also love you. Happens to me all the time.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 14, 2019:
Ever thought what you can do to break the habit? Or is it just that you are programmed that way?
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
davknight comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I won't waste my breath!
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
@davknight You will know better than I but are you saying that the majority of the population are mentally retarded?
davknight comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I won't waste my breath!
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
@davknight You will know better than I but are you saying that the majority of the population are mentally retarded?
When David Cameron allowed the 2016 Referendum to go ahead he did not realize that it would release ...
Fernapple comments on Mar 31, 2019:
Sadly whatever happens the one thing that will not happen is better democracy.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
It is up to us! That IS democracy.
Fernapple comments on Mar 31, 2019:
Sadly whatever happens the one thing that will not happen is better democracy.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
It is up to us! That IS democracy.
"Amature" human here.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 17, 2018:
Welcome - sorry for the delay. Your wide experience could be very useful. I first heard the phrase
"All science is mathematics" from a mentally ill (schitzo) chap in confinement in a hospital. Made me think.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
@Jacar Well actually I am glad that I might have got you started and can only hope that you widen your audience.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 17, 2018:
Welcome - sorry for the delay. Your wide experience could be very useful. I first heard the phrase
"All science is mathematics" from a mentally ill (schitzo) chap in confinement in a hospital. Made me think.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
@Jacar Well actually I am glad that I might have got you started and can only hope that you widen your audience.
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
@birdingnut There is no need ever to pass laws which restrict people [except psychopaths etc] . People left alone fester and hide unfathomable secrets. No human should be left alone but encouraged to come into the caring world with kindness.
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 13, 2019:
@birdingnut There is no need ever to pass laws which restrict people [except psychopaths etc] . People left alone fester and hide unfathomable secrets. No human should be left alone but encouraged to come into the caring world with kindness.
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@birdingnut who is talking about using pressure? .I am sure you have the ability to talk in a reasonable way and the more reasonable talk they hear the more they are likely to eventually accept it.
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@birdingnut who is talking about using pressure? .I am sure you have the ability to talk in a reasonable way and the more reasonable talk they hear the more they are likely to eventually accept it.
"Amature" human here.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 17, 2018:
Welcome - sorry for the delay. Your wide experience could be very useful. I first heard the phrase
"All science is mathematics" from a mentally ill (schitzo) chap in confinement in a hospital. Made me think.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
I should let you know that I am a mixed ability teaching . I agree with research into abilities under separate investigations , but only to assist in the balanced formation of mixed ability groups. The creation of "sink" groups although they do not always happen is a constant danger when you institute streaming.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 17, 2018:
Welcome - sorry for the delay. Your wide experience could be very useful. I first heard the phrase
"All science is mathematics" from a mentally ill (schitzo) chap in confinement in a hospital. Made me think.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
I should let you know that I am a mixed ability teaching . I agree with research into abilities under separate investigations , but only to assist in the balanced formation of mixed ability groups. The creation of "sink" groups although they do not always happen is a constant danger when you institute streaming.
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
mzbehavin comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't. They need to find their own way. I'll answer questions if asked, that is all.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@mzbehavin I actually have faith in the ability of people to find their own way, so I am not disagreeing with you. It is just rock solid religious faith that we need to respectfully find a way around.
mzbehavin comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't. They need to find their own way. I'll answer questions if asked, that is all.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@mzbehavin I actually have faith in the ability of people to find their own way, so I am not disagreeing with you. It is just rock solid religious faith that we need to respectfully find a way around.
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@birdingnut I do not think it is an excuse. It is just that they do not know any better. We must persist in a different way when they get annoyed.
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@birdingnut I do not think it is an excuse. It is just that they do not know any better. We must persist in a different way when they get annoyed.
How do we get more reason into everyday speech and discussion about belief?
HankSherman comments on Apr 11, 2019:
And how is our education system structured to that way of thinking....rather how could it be?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@HankSherman I can understand this request after a lifetime teaching youngsters." Please Sir what do I do next?" I can hear it ringing in my ears now. In fact I have now decided that no one NEEDs telling what to do [Except in an emergency and when very young] . The human mind has the capability from Birth of finding solutions to its immediate problems and with a bit of research into better recorded solutions between problems it can adapt remarkably and has done for millennia. So just think and explore . Let your mind be free from worry or guilt and it will find the best way of thinking for YOU. Well done for finding this site.
HankSherman comments on Apr 11, 2019:
And how is our education system structured to that way of thinking....rather how could it be?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 12, 2019:
@HankSherman I can understand this request after a lifetime teaching youngsters." Please Sir what do I do next?" I can hear it ringing in my ears now. In fact I have now decided that no one NEEDs telling what to do [Except in an emergency and when very young] . The human mind has the capability from Birth of finding solutions to its immediate problems and with a bit of research into better recorded solutions between problems it can adapt remarkably and has done for millennia. So just think and explore . Let your mind be free from worry or guilt and it will find the best way of thinking for YOU. Well done for finding this site.
How do we get more reason into everyday speech and discussion about belief?
HankSherman comments on Apr 11, 2019:
And how is our education system structured to that way of thinking....rather how could it be?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
More science lessons - at least that should work but does not always depending on whether the teacher lets you think for yourself.
HankSherman comments on Apr 11, 2019:
And how is our education system structured to that way of thinking....rather how could it be?
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
More science lessons - at least that should work but does not always depending on whether the teacher lets you think for yourself.
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
itsmedammit comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't try to win anything, other than peace to live my life.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
That is a good attitude but it doesn't have to be short . You can get a long way just asking questions , one of them might "hit home".
itsmedammit comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't try to win anything, other than peace to live my life.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
That is a good attitude but it doesn't have to be short . You can get a long way just asking questions , one of them might "hit home".
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Does brainwash mean beyond saving for Humanity?
birdingnut comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't argue with religious people since they are brainwashed. I just smile and change the subject if they bring up religion, and/or wander off as though I remembered something I have to do. This quickly trains relatives and friends not to bring up religion.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Does brainwash mean beyond saving for Humanity?
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
davknight comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I won't waste my breath!
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Reason ? If you are willing
davknight comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I won't waste my breath!
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Reason ? If you are willing
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
HankSherman comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I usually don't extend "debates" about religion.....discussions are a different thing, and I enjoy those. Too many time debates end up like fights with no winner, only two losers.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Glad you have spotted that discussions are better than debates
HankSherman comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I usually don't extend "debates" about religion.....discussions are a different thing, and I enjoy those. Too many time debates end up like fights with no winner, only two losers.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Glad you have spotted that discussions are better than debates
This is a fun competition to reveal how reasonable you are.
mzbehavin comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't. They need to find their own way. I'll answer questions if asked, that is all.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
I may be wrong but there is no reason quoted here. It is quite a good and understandable attitude but I am still interested in why you take it up.
mzbehavin comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I don't. They need to find their own way. I'll answer questions if asked, that is all.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
I may be wrong but there is no reason quoted here. It is quite a good and understandable attitude but I am still interested in why you take it up.
How do we get more reason into everyday speech and discussion about belief?
Jolanta comments on Apr 11, 2019:
One has to take very small steps. Rome was not built in a day.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
and it did not survive its makers original plans.
Jolanta comments on Apr 11, 2019:
One has to take very small steps. Rome was not built in a day.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
and it did not survive its makers original plans.
How do we get more reason into everyday speech and discussion about belief?
mzbehavin comments on Apr 11, 2019:
Because everyone, no matter what their agenda, has free speech. People use that "free speech" incorrectly all the time. It's only free from government persecution. Nothing more. Reason doesn't come into it.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Yes that IS the way it IS. Why do we not ask more deeply "Why do you say what you do?" and keep asking for evidence until they get sick of us and we persist more? Asking for reasons has been beaten or scammed out of us.
mzbehavin comments on Apr 11, 2019:
Because everyone, no matter what their agenda, has free speech. People use that "free speech" incorrectly all the time. It's only free from government persecution. Nothing more. Reason doesn't come into it.
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
Yes that IS the way it IS. Why do we not ask more deeply "Why do you say what you do?" and keep asking for evidence until they get sick of us and we persist more? Asking for reasons has been beaten or scammed out of us.
RICHARD DAWKINS ERROR CONCERNING THE ORIGIN OF LIFE
Pursuing the concept that anything is ...
Mcflewster comments on Apr 10, 2019:
But have you taken into account the length of time you were actually throwing dice? Life could theoretically have started millions of years earlier than it did. Also the shape and attractions between atoms involved in forming all the intermediate molecular forms that fit between no life and living, ...
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
@LloydBrumbaugh It seems to me that you are locked into having an essential 'agent' as the cause of things and swinging your arguments around to fit in with that. We know who thinks like that.
Mcflewster comments on Apr 10, 2019:
But have you taken into account the length of time you were actually throwing dice? Life could theoretically have started millions of years earlier than it did. Also the shape and attractions between atoms involved in forming all the intermediate molecular forms that fit between no life and living, ...
Mcflewster replies on Apr 11, 2019:
@LloydBrumbaugh It seems to me that you are locked into having an essential 'agent' as the cause of things and swinging your arguments around to fit in with that. We know who thinks like that.
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