A close friend of mine goes back and forth between extreme antithiesm and Pascal's Wager.

Moravian comments on Jan 6, 2020:

The morality of men who see women as mere chattels. Look at the fundamentalists in any of the three Abrahamic religions and women are purely there for breeding and looking after the home.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

Moravian comments on Jan 6, 2020:

"In the Western tradition ?. Maybe in the US tradition. Teaching of creationism has no place in schools unless in a lesson on mythology along with other myths.

The notion of heathen culture is etymologically oxymoronic. [agnostic.com]

Moravian comments on Jan 6, 2020:

heathen is a word used by Christians to describe non Christians and means virtually the same as pagan so your comment is etymologically absurd

When someone says "There is no god" they're idiots! At that point it's up to then to prove that ...

Moravian comments on Jan 6, 2020:

i have found that many on here come from a previously religious background,particularly in the USA, and it is obvious that the indoctrination has lingering effects. It is also ineteresting that you say god singular. That gives the game away. Coming from a non religious background I can categorically say that there are no gods,fairies or teapots circling the sun. So says this idiot but you are welcome to prove me wrong if you wish.

Any thoughts on Gervais' speech?

Moravian comments on Jan 6, 2020:

Very funny guy. I thought he was a bit hard on poor James Cordon

Selective Service Website Crashes Amid Panic Over Military Draft In the aftermath of the US ...

Moravian comments on Jan 6, 2020:

This is very true but I think this may be posted in the wrong group as it certainly is not funny

God is that "thing" that, to the best of your knowledge, is at the top of your hierarchy of values.

Moravian comments on Jan 6, 2020:

Shouldn't the photo be of Jimi Hendrix or are you following the example of European Christians who depicted their Middle Eastern son of god as a blonde blue eyed man.

Is it too soon?

Moravian comments on Jan 5, 2020:

Not funny

So a 5 time draft dodger orders the illegal assassination of a foreign political figure without any ...

Moravian comments on Jan 5, 2020:

So Soleimani has killed hundreds ?. A mere amateur compared to Bush jr. He killed hundreds of thousands and it seems that Trump doesn't want to left behind.

Keeping Up With Faster People

Moravian comments on Jan 4, 2020:

I have trouble keeping up with the Kardashians

Lots of support sure

Moravian comments on Jan 4, 2020:

He is the master of irony

Deep Purple - Child In Time [youtube.com]

Moravian comments on Jan 4, 2020:

One of my favourite Deep Purple songs

I saw this a few hours ago. Had to take a photo. Is it PRO or ANTI religion? I can't tell.

Moravian comments on Jan 3, 2020:

I think it is pro careful driving

Lets Get The Decade Started In A Right Mind - The Opening Scene From The Grateful Dead Movie ...

Moravian comments on Jan 2, 2020:

Weird

"I didn't go to college, I was busy learning stuff".

Moravian comments on Jan 2, 2020:

"By learning stuff" does he mean how to avoid the draft and how to write songs about having sex with under age girls ??

“Cheers to a new year and another chance to get it right!”.............Oprah Winfrey.

Moravian comments on Jan 2, 2020:

With 2020 vision how can we possibly fail

Today I’ve decided to be less serious with my quote and have chosen this one by the king of ...

Moravian comments on Jan 2, 2020:

I knew a young guy who had two university degrees and a doctorate and was a part time university lecturer. He was married in Canada and he and his new bride left the reception by canoe which got stuck on a rock to cries of "marriage on the rocks". On his return to Scotland he sent out invitations to a party with a drawing showing this amusing event but they were surrounded by penguins ??. Of course the wedding may have been in a zoo.

Does god exist?

Moravian comments on Jan 2, 2020:

God singular ?. You sound like another closet theist from the Judeo/Christian fold.

[youtu.

Moravian comments on Dec 31, 2019:

Saw her in Glasgow in 1988 and she probably sung this one. Great song. Great singer

“The past is prophetic in that it asserts loudly that wars are poor chisels for carving out ...

Moravian comments on Dec 31, 2019:

So the war which defeated Nazi Germany was a mistake ?

"Kill one man and you're a murderer, kill a million and you're a Conqueror." (Jean Rostand.)

Moravian comments on Dec 31, 2019:

Stalin :- "One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic"

Pretty much! lol

Moravian comments on Dec 31, 2019:

I didn't realise they sold those in the US, what did they call them "sub compact". I had an Escort XR3, the sporty model in the early '80's. A great little car.

"something"

Moravian comments on Dec 30, 2019:

Tweedledum and Tweedledee ?

Something else

Moravian comments on Dec 30, 2019:

Great punchline.

Size CAN matter! A whale with one-tonne testicles [bbc.com]

Moravian comments on Dec 30, 2019:

At least there will be no argument about who sleeps on the wet patch !!

Everybody wants something different.

Moravian comments on Dec 30, 2019:

Profound ? hardly You do know by now that your president is an incompetent liability and the best thing would be for him to fail and someone more competent to take over.

[lcdviews.com] New Years honours list

Moravian comments on Dec 29, 2019:

The two knighthoods which stood out to me are Ian Duncan Smith. The architect of austerity. and James leigh Pemberton. I knew James as a boy when a friend worked on his fathers estate in Kent. That makes me feel very old.

Included in the "fake news" and disinformation of the media, are the "sins of omissions" as well.

Moravian comments on Dec 28, 2019:

John Pilger. one of the good guys.

Driving Under The Influence: It's interesting to see two different things going on at that same ...

Moravian comments on Dec 28, 2019:

The limit in England is the same at 0.08% but in Scotland it is lower at 0.05%, so drinking any alcohol and driving is a no no. You can also be tested for drugs including marijuana and the penalties are similar

[washingtonpost.com] thoughts?

Moravian comments on Dec 28, 2019:

It's ironic that during the time of The Raj when India was a British colony, Hindus and Muslims coexisted peaceably but after independence and partition they were at each others throats

Or something you can hum along to.

Moravian comments on Dec 28, 2019:

Very clever.

If you think it is the right thing to "respect other's beliefs", please tell me why?

Moravian comments on Dec 27, 2019:

Respect their beliefs but not their actions if they are harmful to others.

No one teaches a newborn human to breath.

Moravian comments on Dec 22, 2019:

All animals have those instincts, or are you saying they are religious as well ?. Does you DOG have a GOD ??

There are mainly 3 types of Hotel breakfast which are English Breakfast, Continental Breakfast and ...

Moravian comments on Dec 22, 2019:

What we call streaky bacon, cut from the pig's belly appears to be all you can get in the US. What happens to the rest of the pig ?

What does Santa wear the rest of the year?

Moravian comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Very appropriate. Apparently the Laps fed their reindeer on hallucigenic mushrooms and then collected the urine from the reindeer. This had the effect of removing some of the toxins from the mushrooms but the hallucigenic properties remained. This explains the flying reindeer and the expression "getting pissed"

Afterlife thoughts... Do you believe in an afterlife?

Moravian comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Pure wishful thinking I'm afraid. Everyone loves a good ghost story but that's all they are. Stories.

The Italian Mafia is now accepting gay mobsters - Even the freaking mob is more progressive than ...

Moravian comments on Dec 21, 2019:

I was always doubtful about all that hugging and kissing on the lips by the mobsters

I am often told that god is unknowable.

Moravian comments on Dec 20, 2019:

In the words of that great philosopher Donald Rumsfeld. Pick it out of that.

I’m confused about my beliefs on afterlife.

Moravian comments on Dec 20, 2019:

Instead of looking at it from a theological/spiritual viewpoint do some anatomical research and you will find that there is no such thing as a "soul" and when the brain dies and decays that's it , there is nothing left for an afterlife.How do you think all the memories,feelings and personality are transferred from the deceased ?. On some sort of celestial memory stick, or in the latest computer jargon.Transferred to "the cloud" Years ago when I was doing some research into this sort of thing I read a book by Steven Pinker called "How the mind works". Worth a look and it may help you on the path to reality.

So coming up to Christmas please tell me Athiests what you think of the Holiday season since you ...

Moravian comments on Dec 19, 2019:

Was this just a points gathering exercise Adrian ?. If so it was very successful

It takes more than an Atheist to over throw over obiedience authority of Religion.

Moravian comments on Dec 19, 2019:

Apart from in a few theocracies we are not governed by religious authorities so anarchy has no connection with atheism. Since man has always been a tribal animal anarchy does not and cannot work.

The Argumentative Theory

Moravian comments on Dec 19, 2019:

Then it's not really reasoning is it?. Reasoning :- The act or process of drawing conclusions from facts,evidence, etc. Quite different from arguing from the position of ones opinion.

Just in case you might possibly have forgotten; we are god damn lucky to be here.

Moravian comments on Dec 19, 2019:

Luck,good fortune,chance, whatever you call it is putting it very mildly.Of all the millions of sperm produced one fertilised an egg and it grew to full term, was born safely and grew to be me,you , him ,her. Also we had the good fortune to be born in a culture and country where have the means and opportunity to join in a debate like this. If I was superstitious I would call it a miracle. We should celebrate the fact every day we are alive.

How does one get their ex-pastor to leave them alone?

Moravian comments on Dec 19, 2019:

Well, since you live in the USA, shooting him could be an option ?

I’ve listened patiently for a few months trying to understand the dichotomy between Agnostics & ...

Moravian comments on Dec 19, 2019:

You may as well use Raymond Briggs to figure it out = https://youtu.be/Jc-FI2zGsAs And wtf is a "belief system"

So coming up to Christmas please tell me Athiests what you think of the Holiday season since you ...

Moravian comments on Dec 19, 2019:

The winter solstice was celebrated long before Christianity was invented. I hope you don't have a tree in your house you naughty pagan you.

If Jesus saves, why are all of his human representatives alway asking you to give them money?

Moravian comments on Dec 18, 2019:

I don't think it was money that was supposed to be saved by Jesus.

[secular] humanism.org | What is Secular Humanism | Free Inquiry Your thoughts?

Moravian comments on Dec 18, 2019:

I could be wrong but I don't think it was money that he was supposed to have saved Sorry this is on the wrong post but it will not delete

Afterlife

Moravian comments on Dec 18, 2019:

You have come to the right place to help you get over your religious indoctrination, so good luck. There is no such thing as a soul or hell and even the pope has agreed on the second one.

I found this ranking of movies interesting and I have watched 7 of them in my life thus far.

Moravian comments on Dec 17, 2019:

I had no idea so many films had been made about cycling. I remember seeing "The bicycle thieves" many years ago and really enjoyed it.

Celtic fans take Rod to task! [independent.

Moravian comments on Dec 17, 2019:

The club was started by working class Irish immigrants and a lot of their support still comes from the descendants of those people. I read an interesting article recently about how the club winning the European cup back in the 1967 did a lot to improve the confidence and status of their supporters. Rangers too have a large working class support but as many are staunch unionists I wonder what their reaction would have been in a similar situation. Of course the answer to the question "Do you support Rangers or Celtic" ?. Is - I am an atheist I support Partick Thistle.

Leave some water out for native birds and animals.

Moravian comments on Dec 17, 2019:

A friend is flying out to Australia today. From snow and sub zero temps to 45C. That's going to be a shock to the system.

(with apologies to T.

Moravian comments on Dec 16, 2019:

Great song which I believe was first recorded by Canned heat in 1967/68. I checked online and found a recording of Canned Heat singing this song but the lyrics shown were of a song with the same title but written by Willie Nelson. Weird

How many here think of themselves as skeptical thinkers?

Moravian comments on Dec 16, 2019:

I doubt if many people came to non belief the way that many came to religious belief. Most believers were indoctrinated from birth whilst although some non believers were never indoctrinated many were and in later life saw how nonsensical belief is. I wonder how many non believers took up religion later in life?. Very few I would imagine.

UK Election What the fuck just happened. That’s Britain screwed for the next 100 years!

Moravian comments on Dec 13, 2019:

Just like elsewhere in the world right wing politicians are using the fear of being overwhelmed by floods of immigrants to con the voters.

This may be wrong but I just looked up that there are 59 parliamentary seats in Scotland.

Moravian comments on Dec 13, 2019:

The exit polls said 55 but the final result is 48. My biggest disapointment is that they didn't reach 50 as ex Tory leader in Holyrood Ruth Davidson said she would skinny dip in Loch Ness if this happened. Form an orderly line guys, and girls.

When an office stands on the gigantic shoulders of the likes of Gladstone, Robert Peel and ...

Moravian comments on Dec 11, 2019:

I pity the English and Welsh with the choice of a right wing buffoon or a dithering left winger. I think the Lib Dems are an irrelevance and the voters in NI have their own agenda. In Scotland we have a left of centre anti Brexit party in the SNP with a proven track record. I think the independence thing is overblown and even if a referendum is forthcoming too many people are afraid of the unknown to vote for separation. Our best hope is for a hung parliament with a minority Labour govt propped up by the SNP who can force more devolved powers to Holyrood.

Dealing with praying?

Moravian comments on Dec 11, 2019:

Years ago on a business trip I had to share a room with a colleague.I walked into the room to find him kneeling by his bed with his hands together in a prayer position. I desperately had to stifle a laugh as he was an ex army special forces guy and he could probably have killed me with his little finger.

wee Scottish Lass to brighton your day

Moravian comments on Dec 11, 2019:

I don't think that outfit would be allowed at Muirfield

Do you think that " I have found god" should mean the same as "A get out of Gaol/Jail free" card.

Moravian comments on Dec 10, 2019:

So believers have their sentence shortened ? In the case of Muslim fundamentalists I think the sentence should be lengthened

A tribute to Marie Fredriksson of Swedish Band Roxette who has sadly died today at the age of ...

Moravian comments on Dec 10, 2019:

Very sad.

Posted this in the baby boomers group but felt it should be posted here too.

Moravian comments on Dec 10, 2019:

Apart from myself a breadknife that my parents were given as a wedding present 85 years ago.

Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way [youtube.com]

Moravian comments on Dec 8, 2019:

Very melodic rock ?, pop ?. I preferred the earlier blues band with Peter green

Joe Walsh - Life's Been Good [youtube.com]

Moravian comments on Dec 8, 2019:

An all time classic. Instantly recognisable intro

WARNING.

Moravian comments on Dec 7, 2019:

Great stuff. that's the way i like my Christmas carols

Join my group on facebook ..atheists of great britain

Moravian comments on Dec 7, 2019:

No thanks. I am on facebook but I do not debate religion or politics. Not worth the hassle and the standard of "debate" on facebook is usually very poor.

I came across something regarding the Westboro Baptist Church.

Moravian comments on Dec 3, 2019:

I like the one about Abraham to Isaiah being Christians.

I'm a bookseller, so this is probably the best way for me to get involved in the community.

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

I don't think it is possible to have one favourite book but recent of the recent books I have read "The philosopher and the wolf" by Mark Rowlands, Zorba the Greek, Captain Correli's mandolin. and many more.

WTF Douglas....

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

I bet all the broadleaves are pining to have their leaves on again.

A FRAGMENT OF CHRIST’s MANGER IS BACK IN THE HOLY LAND! HOW DESPERATE ARE CHRISTIANS FOR ...

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

There are also many fragments of the cross he was crucified on, and as for foreskins, barrow loads.

My sister-in-law works at the same conservative fast food place as I.

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

Since here in the UK pants are something we wear under our trousers that conjures up a lovely image.

Broadway is sick of rude customers, so it's taking matters into its own hands.

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

Mobile phones are a fairly recent innovation. How did those people manage when the nearest phone was in a little box in the street, poor things.

So do not fear death for it is inevitable...

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

Death is like stupidity. The one experiencing it is oblivious to it. It is those close to the person who suffer.

Old ad 🤢 Has anybody heard of this or used it?

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

Yuk. It looks disgusting. The first Kraft product I remember as a kid was Kraft cheese slices. I think they mixed cheese with vegetable oil and it had a plasticy texture but did taste a bit like cheese. It was good for making sandwiches as back the cheese was cut from a large bock by the grocer using a cheese wire and came in two colours. Orange or white.

I was listening to Todd 'N Tyler.

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

I believe that due to the upturn in the economy in Mexico more Mexicans are returning there from the USA than going North and most of the economic migrants are from other central and south American countries but they are not white, or orange, so Trump wouldn't know the difference.

A Family Wolf Encounter

Moravian comments on Dec 2, 2019:

It is thought that the last wolf in Scotland was killed in 1680 and despite the current interest in "rewilding" it is almost certain that wolves will never be introduced. Beavers have been reintroduced and there is talk of reintroducing European Lynx in a couple of places but that's about all. There is a wildlife park near where I live, really just a zoo where the animals have lots of room to move about in. and there is a small pack of wolves in a wooded area. Beautiful animals.

What do you think about 'intuition?

Moravian comments on Dec 1, 2019:

I rode my motorbike all over London in the '60's and always made a point of being first away from traffic lights. Once I delayed without knowing why and a car shot through the red light across my path. If I had gone as usual I would have been under the car. I often wondered why I delayed but I can only surmise that I saw something in my peripheral vision that made me delay.

The Flying Burrito Brothers - Six Days On The Road [youtube.com]

Moravian comments on Dec 1, 2019:

Great song and band but I prefer the version by Taj Mahal

Today is Scotland’s National Day.

Moravian comments on Nov 30, 2019:

It's awfy posh you ken. Nae for the likes o' country loons like me.

[youtu.

Moravian comments on Nov 30, 2019:

One of the best

Rian Johnson Talks Surviving “Last Jedi” Hate

Moravian comments on Nov 30, 2019:

I have only seen snippets of some Star war films on TV. I am more of a "Trekkie" and it is interesting that the actors fragile egos have been hurt by criticism. My main problem with the franchise is the "war" bit. It normalises war. A bit like our great leaders talking about "colonising space" ffs have we not done enough colonising here on earth.?

I made a flippant post about how not having egg cups made Americans angry and my post made some ...

Moravian comments on Nov 29, 2019:

I was surprised at the response but there may be a business opportunity there in selling eggcups to the USA with instructions on use of course.

Americans don’t have egg cups. How do they eat boiled eggs?

Moravian comments on Nov 29, 2019:

And -- the difference between posh people and the rest. Posh people tap the top of the egg with the eggspoon and remove part of the broken shell . The rest slice the top of the egg of with a knife. I slice the top of my boiled eggs

I've already said more "Happy Thanksgivings" than I intended to, and I'm sure I'll say more before...

Moravian comments on Nov 28, 2019:

https://www.manataka.org/page269.html thanksgiving from the native Americans perspective.

Happy Holidays - not Trash-the-Planet month! [monbiot.com]

Moravian comments on Nov 28, 2019:

Well said George. We don't celebrate "Thanksgiving" here fortunately but the madness of "black Friday" is catching on fast. There is some unconscious humour attached though. An American friend put a photo on facebook showing her husband and sons making meatballs for thanksgiving dinner and I thought it was turkey everyone ate or are the meatballs just an aside ? One of her facebook friends commented " why are the boys balls smaller than Anthony's (their father)" made my day I referred her to a natural history documentary following a troop of chimpanzees where the testicles of the dominant male were much larger than the other males. Hope that cleared it up for her.

I though a touch of anarchy for a change....The Sex Pistols. - Anarchy In The UK. [youtu.be]

Moravian comments on Nov 28, 2019:

A breath of fresh air after the ponderous prog rock period

The Rolling Stones.

Moravian comments on Nov 27, 2019:

Probably one of their poorer albums but this is pretty good

Did he though?

Moravian comments on Nov 27, 2019:

Like that one

Most common/ridicuous argumento pro religion?

Moravian comments on Nov 26, 2019:

Years ago my ex was collecting clothing to send to Romania and the collection point was a church in town. The minister was badgering her to join the church as she was spending so much time there. She muttered something about humanism and he shouted at her "Do you think think this all just happened". She was a very shy person and just clammed up. I wish I had been there to have a little debate with the pratt.

Fear of Hell

Moravian comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Think about what is going to burn. When you die there is nothing left. there is nothing to burn. Even the pope has decreed that there is no such place as hell. Of course the corollary to this is that there is no heaven either. I was lucky, although I attended Sunday school and church until I was 16 I was never indoctrinated. You have my sympathy.

Nazareth - Love Hurts [youtube.com]

Moravian comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Dunfermline's finest. Love it.

How do you sort what you really need?

Moravian comments on Nov 25, 2019:

No FWB on your list?. I saw a recent commentary on Defoe's Robinson Crusoe and how the story fitted the mores of the time with black native Man Friday automatically becoming subservient to white Robinson Crusoe, so get with the times. There is a long running radio show here called "Desert Island Discs" where a "celebrity" is asked to choose six pieces of music and a book to accompany them to a desert Island. They are also allowed one other item and surprisingly I have not heard anyone choose a sex toy or blow up doll.

Do you agnostics decorate for Christmas?

Moravian comments on Nov 25, 2019:

You agnostics ?. Yes I put tinsel in my hair and wear a couple of Christmas tree decorations as earrings. You will no doubt be aware that decorating the house with greenery at the winter solstice is a pagan practice that long predates Christianity and because of this some of the more extreme Protestant sects here will not allow a Christmas tree in the house.

Are Non Believers More Prone To Using Profanity?

Moravian comments on Nov 25, 2019:

I have a friend who swears constantly. There is a "fuck" in almost every sentence he utters. probably the result of spending most of his working life of fishing boats. I loved his little story about the time they had a Muslim in the crew and in a stormy North sea the guy tried to point himself towards Mecca to say his prayers. My friend's retort was "Your pointing yourself towards fucking Bergen man not fucking Mecca " I would love to take him to a meeting of prissy churchgoers to see their shocked reaction.

I had a friend whose life was in a state of chaos.

Moravian comments on Nov 25, 2019:

I used to think what was inside the barrel was the answer to my problems but these I just think about the millions of people worse of than I am and it helps

A best friend I've known for years said he ended his FWB relationship cause she was falling in love,...

Moravian comments on Nov 25, 2019:

What's FWB ?

That explains it.

Moravian comments on Nov 24, 2019:

Exercise makes you hungry so you eat more. Become a couch potato and live on one small meal a day :-)

Why do you support trophy hunting?

Moravian comments on Nov 24, 2019:

Trophy hunting has nothing to do with "culling the herd" Animals are bred in farms in Southern Africa and released to be shot by men with lots of money and a small penis. As for the female trophy hunters ??

This super christian guy at my job asked once if I was Christian.

Moravian comments on Nov 23, 2019:

good response

And yet older people overwhelmingly vote Conservative... [theguardian.com]

Moravian comments on Nov 21, 2019:

Many older people have benefited from the rise in house prices over the years and are probably traditional Tory voters anyway. It is a very missleading article. Did they die from want of care or just old age and illness ?