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Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 17, 2020:

No prisoners shouldn't, nor should they be prevented from voting once they're released, they've done their time. Even if they're on parole.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

@Willow_Wisp Sure of course, I agree with you there, but why not people currently serving time? What makes them different from parolees?

Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?

dermot235 comments on Aug 17, 2020:

YES. Why not.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

@dermot235 Because they are two wings of the same party. The function of the democrats is to give the people the appearance that there is a party that represents them so they don't go voting for actual leftist parties. Then the democrats go and purposefully lose to the republicans like a boxer throwing a fight. They are owned by the same corporate overlords and when the plutocrats tell the democrats to lose a political battle, they do it.

Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?

dermot235 comments on Aug 17, 2020:

YES. Why not.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

I don't see any good reasons why not but I see plenty of reasons why they should be allowed to.

Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?

Beowulfsfriend comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Seeing who kids elected, I do not expect prisoners to make any kind of damage. At this point, in the States, it outrages me that once a person has served their time and done their parole, if required, many still can't vote as exfelons.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

Yes, it is outrageous that some people are barred from voting even after repaying their debt to society.

Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 17, 2020:

No prisoners shouldn't, nor should they be prevented from voting once they're released, they've done their time. Even if they're on parole.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

Why do you believe that parolees should have the right to vote but not those currently serving sentences in prison?

Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 17, 2020:

"Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?" Yes, I'm opposed to punishment.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

I feel the same. I think the justice system should focus on rehabilitation rather than revenge.

AUGUST 17, 2020 Kamala Harris Represents Everything Wrong with Empty Identity Politics by ...

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Biden fluffers are like...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

I hate that Miss Farmer, she's such a fucking bitch

Should Prisoners Have The Right To Vote?

prometheus comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Didn't watch the video yet which I'm sure will influence my thinking but here's a thought experiment: If prisoners can't vote then what if one party set about a concerted effort to imprison millions, or tens of millions of people who would normal vote against them, then tried to stop them ever ...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

That sounds awfully familiar. It's almost as if I've seen that very scenario before.

AUGUST 17, 2020 Kamala Harris Represents Everything Wrong with Empty Identity Politics by ...

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Wanted: Women and minorities with authoritarian tendencies. "There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women." Madeleine Albright Translation, "Vote for Hillary or go to hell."

RoboGraham replies on Aug 17, 2020:

@yvilletom It's a bit hypocritical when a grown man who unironically refers to himself as "the Oracle" calls out a normal person for making a nutty comment. Especially when what was said wasn't actually nutty.

Maddow on power [youtu.be]

Varn comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I’ve one male friend who can ..stand her. I can’t. There’s something grating about females with male characteristics that I can’t get beyond; with her, and ‘Mary Louise Kelly’ of *ATC on NPR*… I can’t, and won’t take either..

RoboGraham replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Varn We will try not to hold against the community the fact that there is an arrogant bigot among us.

Maddow on power [youtu.be]

MsHoliday comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I really don’t put too much stock in a pundits opinion.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 16, 2020:

That's a very sensible policy

Maddow on power [youtu.be]

Varn comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I’ve one male friend who can ..stand her. I can’t. There’s something grating about females with male characteristics that I can’t get beyond; with her, and ‘Mary Louise Kelly’ of *ATC on NPR*… I can’t, and won’t take either..

RoboGraham replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Varn Don't flatter yourself varny. A post of yours is the last thing I want to come across and I certainly wouldn't go looking for it. I'm being very honest. You are an intolerant POS.

Maddow on power [youtu.be]

Varn comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I’ve one male friend who can ..stand her. I can’t. There’s something grating about females with male characteristics that I can’t get beyond; with her, and ‘Mary Louise Kelly’ of *ATC on NPR*… I can’t, and won’t take either..

RoboGraham replies on Aug 16, 2020:

I've always considered you an intolerant POS. Here we have it confirmed.

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RoboGraham comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I think the conclusion that he came to is that echo chambers amplify negative emotions and reinforce illogical beliefs. I've seen that happen here plenty. So what we need to do is make sure that slug doesn't become one big echo chamber and the way to do that is to join up so it will become a diverse...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@bingst TFG = too far gone

Accidentally making a very good leftist point.

CourtJester comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Can you explain that?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@CourtJester Well, I can certainly understand and identify with the posting of a poor quality comment after doing some drinking. I've been there. In fact, I've been drinking quite a bit tonight, so I don't expect this to be my best response. I've got a great deal of respect and reverence for the founders and their vision for the country.They have given us some priceless rights and freedoms that have served our people well and will continue to do so. I also highly value the concept of personal responsibility. I don't, however, see personal responsibility to be mutually exclusive to a collectivist mind set. People can be responsible for themselves while also acting in the best interests of their community. For instance, during a global pandemic, people ought to exercise personal responsibility to keep themselves safe and they should take into consideration the vulnerable high risk people around them as well. To do this, they need to stay away from crowds as much as possible and for a very large number of us, this means not going to work. It is personally responsible to not go in to work during a pandemic if your work exposes you to large numbers of people because that can cause you to expose the virus to your vulnerable friends, family and neighbors. But if you don't work, how the hell can you live? And that's where the collectivist aspect comes in. I'm sure you see it as getting something for nothing and therefore it's wrong but when there is such danger, what else can a man do? The responsible thing is to stay home but you still have to make ends meet and that's where it's sensible for society to pool it's resources to keep people afloat during these difficult times. In these circumstances, individuals left on their own are going to end up in crisis and the virus will flourish because desperate people will go back to work in order to pay the bills. That's the opposite of what we want in order to control the virus so it's a good idea to pay non-essential workers to stay home. I don't really care all that much if Jefferson were to disapprove because his mindset is very old fashion and I happen to think that Jefferson was a smart enough guy that if he had been able to live until now, his values and convictions would have evolved with the times and he would probably be able to comprehend the need for closing down large chunks of the economy and he would see that people need some welfare to get them by on in the mean time. So yes, socialism is expensive and it requires high tax rates to fund. I think most people who have experienced socialism, except for the very wealthy, will agree that the benefits far outweigh the costs. And the tax burden falls heaviest on the high earners so for the regular people, who are the vast majority, it's well worth ...

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RoboGraham comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I think the conclusion that he came to is that echo chambers amplify negative emotions and reinforce illogical beliefs. I've seen that happen here plenty. So what we need to do is make sure that slug doesn't become one big echo chamber and the way to do that is to join up so it will become a diverse...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@bingst My understanding of it is that there are lots of people there who are accustomed to controversy and highly value free speech and therefore are willing to discuss things without resorting to using the block. Or so I've been told. After actually going there and experiencing it a bit, I think the reason is that it's a much more homogeneous group. It's mostly right wingers and they mostly agree on things so there isn't much controversy. Also, there is less activity. I see that most posts have little to no activity. So maybe it's just that there aren't many people and so less opportunity for disagreement. I will say this. Most of the people who I have been blocked by here are politically correct establishment democrat types. Those sorts of people do not exist there, so maybe that's why. And I don't actually know that it is many of the same people from here. I have seen some familiar faces but it could be that the majority have had nothing to do with agnostic. There certainly is a large number of religious people so the populace is very different. Honestly, I don't recommend it. At first I had high hopes because I do think that many people here are too overly sensitive about things but over there, I find that I am reluctant to even engage because so many of them seem to be TFGs.

The "woke" are not the political left [blog.davidrand.ca]

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 15, 2020:

Washington certainly isn't left. https://www.freexenon.com/2019/07/19/political-compass-for-2020-election/

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

I've been searching for this. It is such a good resource for showing people the true spectrum and where our leaders fall on it. I'm with you down in the green quadrant but a little less left and a bit lower down.

Let's face it people, we are experiencing the same mass insanity that Germany experienced back in ...

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 15, 2020:

I know that battle lines are being drawn. What were we doing with our lives anyway?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

Arguing on social media

The "woke" are not the political left [blog.davidrand.ca]

AnonySchmoose comments on Aug 15, 2020:

Thank you! Wow! That is a thorough article. Mindsets that like identify themselves as leftist, but which are not the real left, boggle one's mind. 'Woke' leftists obscure the real issue -- they allow capitalism free rein. All of the fake leftism boils down to a lot of BS that denies equality.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@LucyLoohoo Possibly but I haven't seen any indication of it. And it's different between politicians and regular people. When politicians have harmful political convictions, there are real world consequences. It takes more than just a change of opinion over time to make up for that.

@Admin or whomever runs this site.

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Happy to see my group making an appearance.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@FrayedBear Well no, it's not the primary purpose but it is a purpose, for those who choose to engage in it.

@Admin or whomever runs this site.

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Happy to see my group making an appearance.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@FrayedBear Well, the kinky group is not mine and I've nothing to do with but I also have no issue with it. It is appealing to a very large number of people. That sort of thing was once illegal because of irrational sensibilities rooted in religious belief. So in my opinion, that is the perfect group to feature on an advertisement of the site. I'm not well versed in Cipolla so I'll ignore that comment of yours. I also have no clue what you are getting at with this destructive robots assertion. I wish I had the ability to construct a destructive robot, sounds fun.

The "woke" are not the political left [blog.davidrand.ca]

AnonySchmoose comments on Aug 15, 2020:

Thank you! Wow! That is a thorough article. Mindsets that like identify themselves as leftist, but which are not the real left, boggle one's mind. 'Woke' leftists obscure the real issue -- they allow capitalism free rein. All of the fake leftism boils down to a lot of BS that denies equality.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@barjoe Okay, sounds like they never were leftists.

The "woke" are not the political left [blog.davidrand.ca]

AnonySchmoose comments on Aug 15, 2020:

Thank you! Wow! That is a thorough article. Mindsets that like identify themselves as leftist, but which are not the real left, boggle one's mind. 'Woke' leftists obscure the real issue -- they allow capitalism free rein. All of the fake leftism boils down to a lot of BS that denies equality.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@barjoe Well, it tells me that people's political convictions can change over the course of two decades. And yes of course people can agree on some things and disagree on others.

The "woke" are not the political left [blog.davidrand.ca]

AnonySchmoose comments on Aug 15, 2020:

Thank you! Wow! That is a thorough article. Mindsets that like identify themselves as leftist, but which are not the real left, boggle one's mind. 'Woke' leftists obscure the real issue -- they allow capitalism free rein. All of the fake leftism boils down to a lot of BS that denies equality.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

So true. It bothers me to no end that I, an actual leftist, get lumped together with the woke democrats who are not leftists but rather capitalist neoliberals who believe in social justice.

@Admin or whomever runs this site.

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Happy to see my group making an appearance.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@FrayedBear I'm familiar with this community. I've been around a while. Have you considered Core Principle #7- Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.? How would you like it if I made a post in the Senate about how your group and opinions are going to repel new members?

Accidentally making a very good leftist point.

CourtJester comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Can you explain that?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@CourtJester Such a typical right winger response. Heavy on name calling and bravado, totally absent of substance. You're damn right the government should act to protect it's populace and it's economy during a global crisis. That's why socialist countries and capitalist countries with socialist tendencies are handling this thing so much better than we are. I have traveled abroad. Have you?

Let me know your thought's on Joe's first big decision.

SpikeTalon comments on Aug 15, 2020:

He forgot I'm afraid...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 15, 2020:

Love it!

When Kamala says the magic words (it was a debate) it negates all criticisms she previously had of ...

LucyLoohoo comments on Aug 14, 2020:

It WAS a debate...and, like the prosecutor she once was, she handles words well, makes points well and shows us the ability to maintain a stream of thought while disagreeing with someone else's premise. NOT a quality we've seen very often lately, is it?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Bierbasstard It drives me crazy

When Kamala says the magic words (it was a debate) it negates all criticisms she previously had of ...

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 14, 2020:

"Nothing changed." Cory Booker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UvvehqCWaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzXg2JASFfU

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

Nothing changed It's just that I said one thing before, and now I'm saying the opposite. And that's totally not a change.

When Kamala says the magic words (it was a debate) it negates all criticisms she previously had of ...

LucyLoohoo comments on Aug 14, 2020:

It WAS a debate...and, like the prosecutor she once was, she handles words well, makes points well and shows us the ability to maintain a stream of thought while disagreeing with someone else's premise. NOT a quality we've seen very often lately, is it?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@LucyLoohoo The national debates are an opportunity for candidates to introduce themselves to the nation and express their values and policies. It's supposed to be truthful and meaningful. What's the point if the goal is to just say whatever is necessary to win and then play it off like no big deal later? All that does is show me that she has no true convictions. She is in it for personal advancement, not the American people. How does it make any difference that she hadn't been chosen yet? Do you think her response would be different today?

When Kamala says the magic words (it was a debate) it negates all criticisms she previously had of ...

LucyLoohoo comments on Aug 14, 2020:

It WAS a debate...and, like the prosecutor she once was, she handles words well, makes points well and shows us the ability to maintain a stream of thought while disagreeing with someone else's premise. NOT a quality we've seen very often lately, is it?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

It was a debate and then she dismissed everything she said in the debate and laughed about it, as if it's totally not important. She is fake.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Well I hope so. How are things going with your plan to create one?

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Yea, and I bet they don't debate and vote on every minute management decision because that is not possible.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Yes, I'm totally in favor of direct democracy as much as possible. But how about the day to day management of things? You can't get anything done if everyone is constantly bickering and voting.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd I've visited one. They claim to have no leaders. But in actuality, they have unofficial leaders. When humans form themselves into groups, leaders always emerge. It's how we operate. I don't see it as a bad thing if the leaders are well meaning, capable, and kept in check. Someone has to call the shots.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Sounds like an unobtainable utopia to me but I sure hope you're right. That would be wonderful. So how would a society function with no leaders at all? Hive mind mentality?

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd And when you drop out, do you think those same struggles won't crop up again?

Okay gang, for my opening post of the new group, I'd like to ask you all a question.

altschmerz comments on Aug 11, 2020:

For me, it's not just Biden, it's the voters. When there's a Democrat in the White House, he can do any little thing he wants, and no one says anything. Sure there was opposition to Shrub's wars, but when Obama bombed Libya and stepped up use of drones overall, when he separated children from their ...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@altschmerz I can't get through it. I'll read some, generally agree with what he says but not feel very interested because it's not very relevant to me and then look at how much more there is to read and be like welp, time to give up.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Yeah, I was referring to the game the citizens play. I know about the 2 party game of the government plays. Competition for titles and the league, that was a good way to put it. So, I think what you mean is that people are divided into tribes based on party affiliation, ethnicity, and that sort of thing. And it's terrible because it divides us and keeps us in conflict so we don't focus on the true struggle, the competition between the working class and the owner class.

Okay gang, for my opening post of the new group, I'd like to ask you all a question.

altschmerz comments on Aug 11, 2020:

For me, it's not just Biden, it's the voters. When there's a Democrat in the White House, he can do any little thing he wants, and no one says anything. Sure there was opposition to Shrub's wars, but when Obama bombed Libya and stepped up use of drones overall, when he separated children from their ...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@altschmerz When it comes to Kamala, I do find myself agreeing with the rightwingers. Which is really weird, but I guess it's because both they and us aren't blinded by party loyalty and therefore are able see her for what what she truly is. And yes, she is very consistent with the establishment of the party on criminal justice. This is the party that brought us mass incarceration after all. I don't know that I'd call it brave but thanks for saying so. I enjoy conflict on important issues and it's really not very difficult or daunting when you're better informed than the people you are arguing with. I think William_Mary really knows his stuff. He is clearly much more knowledgeable than I am. I don't generally read his stuff very often though because his posts tend to be very long and dense. And the few times I've interacted with him, I found him to be a bit arrogant. I do like the Out of the Illusion group though.

Okay gang, for my opening post of the new group, I'd like to ask you all a question.

altschmerz comments on Aug 11, 2020:

For me, it's not just Biden, it's the voters. When there's a Democrat in the White House, he can do any little thing he wants, and no one says anything. Sure there was opposition to Shrub's wars, but when Obama bombed Libya and stepped up use of drones overall, when he separated children from their ...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

Wow, you knocked it out of the park on this one. You hit on that core concept that causes enormous harm but is understood by so few. The republicans do terrible things blatantly and there is outrage. The democrats do terrible things quietly and people mostly just accept it because the democrats are better at PR and there is this general sense that they are the good guys. It's like how the Bush administration attempted to repeal Glass-Steagall but were unable to because democrats still stood with unions and working people, at least to some extent, back in the 80s so it wasn't possible. However, Once the neoliberal Clinton administration took power, they were able to do what the republicans couldn't. They repealed it and democrats went along with it because it was a democratic administration doing it. Fast forward a decade and we have the financial collapse of 2008. I do worry that people will lose their outrage when and if the democrats take over again. So many just want that return to normalcy that Biden is promising. They want to just be able to tune out and trust that the democrats in charge will do the right thing. They won't. But I do think that, for the younger generations at least, people are starting to wake up to the fact that the democrats have almost become just as bad as the republicans. And I think that the tough on crime guy and the top cop Kamala will only intensify this unrest related to the growing police state.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Tell me more about this game

Okay gang, for my opening post of the new group, I'd like to ask you all a question.

AnneWimsey comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Wow, way to start unbiased discussion & free exchange of ideas, NOT! Annndd I see you are perfectly fine with OrangeIdiot appointing the next 2-3 Supreme Court Justices??!!?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

Far from it. I'm not fine with Trump or Biden being trusted with that enormously important power. It's not meant to be unbiased. This is the Biden pinata group. Here, we talk shit about Biden. It's the entire purpose of the group. If that makes you uncomfortable, you don't have to participate.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Exactly They'll pack us into petri dishes while they go off to safe areas and live in luxury.

"The world’s richest people are chartering private jets to set off for holiday homes or specially ...

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Must be nice

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd As always, the wealthy have it easy and the poor are left to fend for themselves.

Okay gang, for my opening post of the new group, I'd like to ask you all a question.

Mooolah comments on Aug 14, 2020:

I will vote for Biden/Harris. He & she have a record they must carry. The Day glo Donald has NO experience in governing as evident. The worst Biden did was to write the Criminal Justice Law regarding drug use which labeled cannabis as a Schedule 1 drug, placing MILLIONS of colored folks in prison ...

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

I think it is logical to vote Biden in the interests of harm reduction, for those who believe that Trump is a worse danger, a greater evil. What bothers me is when people support him without recognizing, or willfully ignoring his abysmal record and terrible policies which harm the working class.

Why did you remove my posts. Thin skin?

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Nope, nothing has been removed by me. All commentary is welcome in all of my groups. I'm not even sure if there is a way to remove posts. I've never censored anyone.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Mooolah Get em! I'm the only one that has control in the Biden pinata group. So I don't see how anyone else could have done it. Maybe try to re-post it and see what happens.

Why did you remove my posts. Thin skin?

RoboGraham comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Nope, nothing has been removed by me. All commentary is welcome in all of my groups. I'm not even sure if there is a way to remove posts. I've never censored anyone.

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Mooolah Maybe admin took it down? Was there something offensive or something like that?

Okay gang, for my opening post of the new group, I'd like to ask you all a question.

Mooolah comments on Aug 14, 2020:

The worst attribute about Biden is that he is running against the despot Day glo Donald .

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

I'd say that's far from his worst attribute. That's really quite fortunate for him because if he weren't running against someone so terrible and hated as Trump, he wouldn't stand a chance.

Okay gang, for my opening post of the new group, I'd like to ask you all a question.

Mooolah comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Why are you removing my posts? Intolerant of an opposing view?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

Hmmm, I haven't removed anything. What has been removed? I see below there is another comment of yours. "The worst attribute about Biden is that he is running against the despot Day glo Donald" Was there something else that you have posted here?

Accidentally making a very good leftist point.

CourtJester comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Can you explain that?

RoboGraham replies on Aug 14, 2020:

A capitalist system is fragile. When a crisis comes along requiring much of the economy be shut down temporarily, things begin to unravel. Laborers and small business owners can't pay their bills so rents and mortgages don't get paid resulting in mass eviction and an enormous spike in homelessness as we are about to see. Desperate people demand to go back to work before the crisis is over because they have no other way to make ends meet so the crisis gets worse, much worse than it would have been if the shut down had been in place long enough to get it under control fully. There are no mechanisms built into the system to protect people when the shit hits the fan other than unemployment which has proven to be inadequate for very large numbers of people. There are some capitalist countries which have used socialistic policies to mitigate the shortcomings of capitalism during a crisis. They provide things like universal healthcare, UBI, eviction moratoriums, and the requirement that companies that have received government assistance use the money they received to pay their workers to stay home. By implementing these policies, those countries have done a good job of containing the virus and protecting their people from economic hardship. The person who made this meme thought it was very clever because it's the quarantining and economic shutdown which caused all the problems. So it's implying that we did this to ourselves. Thing is, it was necessary to respond with those measures and by doing what was needed to contain the virus, we put strain on our system which our system was not designed to handle. The result was the unraveling of our capitalist system because capitalism is fragile and does not do a good job of adjusting to a crisis.

Denazification [youtube.com]

RoboGraham comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I love this channel. And the Great War channel too. Been watching since 14