I'm tired.

RoboGraham comments on Jun 1, 2020:

That's very understandable. I actually feel slightly encouraged because this is a rare moment in history in which the people are standing up to violent and oppressive forces which govern them unjustly. It's out of situations like these that concessions from the authorities can be forced.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 2, 2020:

@mtnhome Yeah, the rioting is very bad PR and gives the authorities legitimatecy for their repression. It would be much better if everyone kept it peaceful. I can't really blame them though, they have good reason to be furious.

Trump is looking a bit shaky atm and I can see him being removed from the presidency through some ...

hankster comments on Jun 1, 2020:

wall street.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

As is true of all American elections

The fact that people of colour are being murdered by police, and are three times more likely to ...

barjoe comments on Jun 1, 2020:

So the fact that people disagreed with Colin Kaepernick, you take it that we now should have total anarchy and that will now get people to listen? No it will mobilize the right and inspire empathy for the police and motivate whites to vote for Trump. Why not riot? Really? I cannot believe that well ...

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@barjoe It may not be millions where you are but all the demonstrations across the country together, yeah, millions are participating. Yes, the rioting is hurting people in the communities where it is happening. People of all colors. As I said before, it is very unfortunate that it is happening. The vast majority who are participating are nonviolent. The media chooses to focus on the sensational violence so that's the perception that people have. Are you aware of why all these people are risking the pandemic and the violence of the police to get out and demonstrate? The fear and oppression that has lingered under the surface of minority communities for decades? You don't seem to be taking that into consideration. As was said before, peaceful solutions have been tried with very little success. This is what happens when society is unresponsive to the oppression of an entire race. If you want to put an end to these cyclical riots that damage so many communities on such a regular basis, support the protestors, don't focus on the rioters who are selfishly taking advantage of the situation. Join the peaceful protests and add to their voices. Until real tangible solutions are introduced to these systemic issues, this will continue to happen with ever more violent intensity. And the only way to make it happen, is to put heavy pressure on those in positions of authority.

I watched Newark burning as a teen riding to work, in Manhattan.

bingst comments on Jun 1, 2020:

I lost my trust in cops when I was a teenager. I've come across few who seemed like decent people.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

I knew a guy who went to prison for a year. When he got out, he said he only meet 30 people in there who he believed deserved to be in prison. And only 10 of them were prisoners.

Samantha Bentley, she was in Game of Thrones

Cutiebeauty comments on Jun 1, 2020:

I haven't seen GOT...

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@Bobbyzen GOT, a fantasy show set in the middle ages of another world, does a better job of representing the power struggles of medieval people than shows and movies that are meant to be historical. Oh, and also, there are dragons.

Samantha Bentley, she was in Game of Thrones

Cutiebeauty comments on Jun 1, 2020:

I haven't seen GOT...

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty You're missing out.

Samantha Bentley, she was in Game of Thrones

Cutiebeauty comments on Jun 1, 2020:

I haven't seen GOT...

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

What are you waiting for? It's some of the best TV ever made.

The fact that people of colour are being murdered by police, and are three times more likely to ...

barjoe comments on Jun 1, 2020:

So the fact that people disagreed with Colin Kaepernick, you take it that we now should have total anarchy and that will now get people to listen? No it will mobilize the right and inspire empathy for the police and motivate whites to vote for Trump. Why not riot? Really? I cannot believe that well ...

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@barjoe They've tried fighting the peaceful legal way and they get nowhere. This is what happens when aggressive overly militarized law enforcement wages war on the citizens they are meant to protect and the justice system refuses to hold killer cops accountable. It's not ideal, of course peaceful protest is preferable but if society is not responsive to those protests and the repression continues, the anger and fury of the people is bound to boil over into violence. Had something been done about this, we wouldn't be in this mess but they made peaceful reforms impossible so now here we are. The people you have talked to, that's just anecdotal. To get an idea of how people actually feel, look at the millions in the streets risking a pandemic to express their frustrations. Have a look at twitter and see the solidarity of people with the protesters. Try conversing with the actual protesters and not just your friends and neighbors. It's a shame that people have to fear for their homes and businesses. It's also a shame that an entire segment of society has to fear for their lives every time they encounter police. It shouldn't have gotten to this point. If law enforcement did their job properly, protect and serve the citizens rather than use these aggressive deadly tactics, these riots wouldn't be happening. If we didn't have a drug war and mass incarceration, these riots wouldn't be happening. But thanks to immoral policy makers on both sides of the aisle, these issues are systemic and so ingrained that drastic measures will be needed to pressure leaders into enacting the obvious reforms that should have been done long ago. The response of law enforcement to this crisis has been abysmal. The people are protesting police brutality so the police respond with more brutality. They actively provoke and escalate the violence. Our police culture is so corrupted with violence and militarism that they have no alternative. All they know is brute force and this will make things worse. The protests will spread in response to the brutality of the cops.

Minnesota and New York governors spoke today about the murder of George Floyd.

RoboGraham comments on May 31, 2020:

So all of this public outrage and unrest is having some real effects on those in power. Wonderful. If we keep it up, they might actually do something about these systemic issues we have.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin Yes, that's a major issue. But we have twitter, facebook, youtube, email, and a vast number of other apps and social media platforms. The government would have to shut down the internet to put a stop to the spread. Do you think the American public would tolerate that. I mean come on this isn't the people's republic of China, this is America. If they were to truly censor it they would outrage millions of people and make everyone want to see the stuff even more and there is always a way to smuggle information. Especially in the information age.

How Many Would Put Themselves In The Middle of This Diagram

RoboGraham comments on May 31, 2020:

The looting and burning is an unfortunate byproduct of the uprising but I was happy to see that police precinct burn.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin I doubt that too. But they don't need to win, they just need to continue to exist. The Vietnamese didn't beat the Americans militarily. They tried during Tet and it failed. They won by having more determination and more endurance. The American public got war weary and the solders stopped trying to win. The insurgency is just a thorn in the side of the authorities. The real fight is in the hearts and minds of the noncombatants.

Minnesota and New York governors spoke today about the murder of George Floyd.

RoboGraham comments on May 31, 2020:

So all of this public outrage and unrest is having some real effects on those in power. Wonderful. If we keep it up, they might actually do something about these systemic issues we have.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin It seems that way now but imagine the scenario after they start using live ammo and people start losing loved ones. Civil rights was won because the authorities amped up the violence and every evening people who weren't supportive at first saw on the news protesters being bit by dogs, hit by fire hoses, and beaten. That in your face brutality tugs at the empathy most people have within them. If it gets to the point of real fighting, I think more and more people would see things our way as they watch the authorities unleash hell on their fellow citizens. Or maybe the repression will work and it will just get worse from here on out.

How Many Would Put Themselves In The Middle of This Diagram

RoboGraham comments on May 31, 2020:

The looting and burning is an unfortunate byproduct of the uprising but I was happy to see that police precinct burn.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin That's the best case scenario. If it doesn't work, well, that's what the second amendment is for.

Minnesota and New York governors spoke today about the murder of George Floyd.

RoboGraham comments on May 31, 2020:

So all of this public outrage and unrest is having some real effects on those in power. Wonderful. If we keep it up, they might actually do something about these systemic issues we have.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin Many would be mown down for sure. But as happens against the American military elsewhere in the world, the more they kill, the more insurgents they create and eventually, they decide it's too costly to continue. And I think they would defy orders if the killing gets too out of control because it's their own countrymen they will be murdering. The American populace is the best armed citizenry the world has ever known. If the military can't beat the Vietnamese or the Afghans, I think they will have trouble with a bunch of angry Americans pissed off about a tyrannical government.

In my lifetime, I have imagined and lived through the very worst I thought a Mother could live ...

Charlene comments on May 29, 2020:

This is a Horrifying example of White priviledge..I am seething over Floyds Murder..Yet news stations are quoting "un-named sources" that He had underlying health issues that lead to his death..already the shifting of blame has Started..🤬🤬🤬🤬

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@bigjac Yeah, that would definitely be better than strangling him.

How Many Would Put Themselves In The Middle of This Diagram

RoboGraham comments on May 31, 2020:

The looting and burning is an unfortunate byproduct of the uprising but I was happy to see that police precinct burn.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin Yeah, non-violence is the best way. Mass noncooperation with authority. Burning and looting is counterproductive. It labels the entire movement as violent and dangerous and gives them legitimacy in the violence they use to suppress it. Still, I can't really blame them for doing it and I do enjoy seeing it burn.

Minnesota and New York governors spoke today about the murder of George Floyd.

RoboGraham comments on May 31, 2020:

So all of this public outrage and unrest is having some real effects on those in power. Wonderful. If we keep it up, they might actually do something about these systemic issues we have.

RoboGraham replies on Jun 1, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin It's a shame that conflict and destruction has to again be the price we pay to gain some decent reform. We are supposed to have democracy to achieve progress without the need of violence. This is what happens when democracy is subverted by the ruling elites.

There are people protesting police brutality in cities across the nation and the police respond with...

Storm1752 comments on May 31, 2020:

It's not 'brutality;' they're just doing their job under extraordinarily brutal conditions. Yes there are obviously instances they cross the line and we know about a small fraction of those cases. But managing crowd control during street demonstrations and especially full-blown riots is another ...

RoboGraham replies on May 31, 2020:

@Storm1752 Their job is hard and we need them, yes. I never said it isn't and I never said we don't And clearly, their aggressive tactics aren't making their jobs any easier. Riots don't just erupt out of nowhere. This is happening because millions of people are oppressed by militaristic law enforcement that gets away with murder. It is a recurring theme in American history because we continue to allow them to get away with it. If they focused more on deescalation rather than force, they wouldn't be in this mess. If we could trust them and the justice system to punish criminal cops, they wouldn't be in this mess. They caused it. Do you understand why all those people are protesting? It's a shame that it's come to this. These issues should have been addressed the right way long ago but unarmed black men constantly get killed at the hands of police so here we are. Of course I don't want a city to burn down asshole. The vast majority of them are peaceful. Some people are taking advantage of the lawlessness of the situation to riot and loot. Some are expressing their anger in destructive fashion. It is unfortunate but this is what happens when the police wages war on the citizens they are meant to protect and serve. When the government uses law enforcement as a weapon of oppression. All this SHOULD go without saying but some people apparently have their heads up their asses.

Where Was Your Knee In Nov. 2016?

WilliamFleming comments on May 31, 2020:

I didn’t vote for Trump, but I’m not buying that conjecture on several counts. Mainly, we’ve been having similar events to this recent disgusting thing all along, under both parties. More importantly, the government entity most responsible is the City of Minneapolis, run by Jacob Frey, a ...

RoboGraham replies on May 31, 2020:

@WilliamFleming I like that sentiment. The justice system ought to be much more concentrated on rehabilitation than on punishment as it is. I agree, most people are good at heart but for varryi8ng reasons, do bad things. I don't think Trump sees it this way though. I think his morality is completely tied up with loyalty. People who vote for him, such as white supremacists, are good people and people who don't, such as most black people, are bad people.

Where Was Your Knee In Nov. 2016?

WilliamFleming comments on May 31, 2020:

I didn’t vote for Trump, but I’m not buying that conjecture on several counts. Mainly, we’ve been having similar events to this recent disgusting thing all along, under both parties. More importantly, the government entity most responsible is the City of Minneapolis, run by Jacob Frey, a ...

RoboGraham replies on May 31, 2020:

@WilliamFleming I think all people have, and for some, had, the potential to become good people but certainly not all are good. If all are good, why didn't he call the "thugs" good people?

Where Was Your Knee In Nov. 2016?

WilliamFleming comments on May 31, 2020:

I didn’t vote for Trump, but I’m not buying that conjecture on several counts. Mainly, we’ve been having similar events to this recent disgusting thing all along, under both parties. More importantly, the government entity most responsible is the City of Minneapolis, run by Jacob Frey, a ...

RoboGraham replies on May 31, 2020:

@Krish55 Yeah, when Trump called the white supremacists "good people" ad the protesters of police brutality "thugs" He revealed where he stands on race.

There are people protesting police brutality in cities across the nation and the police respond with...

Storm1752 comments on May 31, 2020:

It's not 'brutality;' they're just doing their job under extraordinarily brutal conditions. Yes there are obviously instances they cross the line and we know about a small fraction of those cases. But managing crowd control during street demonstrations and especially full-blown riots is another ...

RoboGraham replies on May 31, 2020:

Just doing their job, just following orders. Where have I heard that before? They wouldn't be in this position, controlling crowds of furious people, if their aggressive militarized tactics hadn't caused so much death and misery.

So trump wants to shut down twitter.. Why?

RoboGraham comments on May 27, 2020:

I don't trust a corporation such as twitter to handle fact checking responsibly and ubiasedly. If they can censor the president, they sure as shit can censor the rest of us and I highly doubt that Twitter's facts will line up nicely with mine. Far better to allow freedom of speech to function ...

RoboGraham replies on May 30, 2020:

@dermot235 Totally agree

In my lifetime, I have imagined and lived through the very worst I thought a Mother could live ...

Charlene comments on May 29, 2020:

This is a Horrifying example of White priviledge..I am seething over Floyds Murder..Yet news stations are quoting "un-named sources" that He had underlying health issues that lead to his death..already the shifting of blame has Started..🤬🤬🤬🤬

RoboGraham replies on May 30, 2020:

@Charlene So true. We will have to break the blue wall for them.

In my lifetime, I have imagined and lived through the very worst I thought a Mother could live ...

Charlene comments on May 29, 2020:

This is a Horrifying example of White priviledge..I am seething over Floyds Murder..Yet news stations are quoting "un-named sources" that He had underlying health issues that lead to his death..already the shifting of blame has Started..🤬🤬🤬🤬

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@Charlene in that case, the message they are sending is that the people had better be in great physical shape because law enforcement is so brutal that it's dangerous to encounter them while physically weak. Yeah that's not a good look. They'd be better off just admitting that there are some members of their evil organization who are rogue and go ahead and punish them accordingly.

In my lifetime, I have imagined and lived through the very worst I thought a Mother could live ...

Charlene comments on May 29, 2020:

This is a Horrifying example of White priviledge..I am seething over Floyds Murder..Yet news stations are quoting "un-named sources" that He had underlying health issues that lead to his death..already the shifting of blame has Started..🤬🤬🤬🤬

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

So do they think it's okay for Police to murder people with pre existing conditions? How would him having an underlying condition make what they did any less bad?

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Twitcher comments on May 29, 2020:

Yeah needs a little more explanation .

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

VS products cover as little skin as possible. That's the core of their brand.

Growing up a freethinker, I've understood that a lot of what I was hearing from powerful entities ...

RoboGraham comments on May 29, 2020:

Two sides of the same coin. During this primary, I've realized that talking to blue maga people is nearly as frustrating as talking to the original maga folks.

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd I think the music was better than the interior decorating. Is that what your kitchen looks like? It's pretty cool

Growing up a freethinker, I've understood that a lot of what I was hearing from powerful entities ...

RoboGraham comments on May 29, 2020:

Two sides of the same coin. During this primary, I've realized that talking to blue maga people is nearly as frustrating as talking to the original maga folks.

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Lol That and the music. Some good stuff came out of that decade

Growing up a freethinker, I've understood that a lot of what I was hearing from powerful entities ...

RoboGraham comments on May 29, 2020:

Two sides of the same coin. During this primary, I've realized that talking to blue maga people is nearly as frustrating as talking to the original maga folks.

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Yeah there was never a time when things were "great" America has done some good, plenty of bad, and it all depends on your prospective as to what was good and what was bad and whether it was great or not.

Growing up a freethinker, I've understood that a lot of what I was hearing from powerful entities ...

RoboGraham comments on May 29, 2020:

Two sides of the same coin. During this primary, I've realized that talking to blue maga people is nearly as frustrating as talking to the original maga folks.

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd 1776? 1940's?

Is the left overly confident in the outcome of the 2020 elections?

Charlene comments on May 28, 2020:

And excuse me, the "Laziness" of the Left? Really..which candidate raised More money, had The largest rallies and a passionate base? That Isn't the laziness of the left..that's Working hard for a Cause..the laziness your talking about is the CenterRight demanding We vote for a life long ...

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@Charlene I hope so. I think he capitulated when he suspended his campaign and started cooperating with Biden building these task forces. But shit is crazy this year so seems like anything could happen.

Is the left overly confident in the outcome of the 2020 elections?

Charlene comments on May 28, 2020:

And excuse me, the "Laziness" of the Left? Really..which candidate raised More money, had The largest rallies and a passionate base? That Isn't the laziness of the left..that's Working hard for a Cause..the laziness your talking about is the CenterRight demanding We vote for a life long ...

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@paul1967 Right, there is enthusiasm for Sanders that doesn't exist for Biden. How could Biden win with no enthusiasm? I think most Sanders supporters won't stay home. Some will vote Biden, some green, some will write in. It's not apathy, just disgust with the corruption.

Is the left overly confident in the outcome of the 2020 elections?

Charlene comments on May 28, 2020:

And excuse me, the "Laziness" of the Left? Really..which candidate raised More money, had The largest rallies and a passionate base? That Isn't the laziness of the left..that's Working hard for a Cause..the laziness your talking about is the CenterRight demanding We vote for a life long ...

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@Charlene True, but there's no way they will allow Bernie to win. It doesn't even seem like he wants to win, having dropped out so prematurely.

Is the left overly confident in the outcome of the 2020 elections?

KKGator comments on May 28, 2020:

It feels more and more to me like what happened in 2016 is going to happen again. The same people who couldn't bring themselves to support Clinton, helped 45 win. They didn't even have to vote for him. They just refused to support her. Same thing feels like it's happening now. People won't...

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

@KKGator Or perhaps morality got in the way of obedience.

Is the left overly confident in the outcome of the 2020 elections?

KKGator comments on May 28, 2020:

It feels more and more to me like what happened in 2016 is going to happen again. The same people who couldn't bring themselves to support Clinton, helped 45 win. They didn't even have to vote for him. They just refused to support her. Same thing feels like it's happening now. People won't...

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

I wonder why those people are having such a hard time supporting him?

Is the left overly confident in the outcome of the 2020 elections?

Charlene comments on May 28, 2020:

And excuse me, the "Laziness" of the Left? Really..which candidate raised More money, had The largest rallies and a passionate base? That Isn't the laziness of the left..that's Working hard for a Cause..the laziness your talking about is the CenterRight demanding We vote for a life long ...

RoboGraham replies on May 29, 2020:

Exactly, the left worked for it. The centrist hardly campaigned and used their advantageous connections with the corporate media and the corrupt establishment to snatch an underserved win.

So trump wants to shut down twitter.. Why?

RoboGraham comments on May 27, 2020:

I don't trust a corporation such as twitter to handle fact checking responsibly and ubiasedly. If they can censor the president, they sure as shit can censor the rest of us and I highly doubt that Twitter's facts will line up nicely with mine. Far better to allow freedom of speech to function ...

RoboGraham replies on May 27, 2020:

@wolf041 That is true, it's their platform and so I suppose they can regulate people's speech as they see fit. Thing is, a platform that decides to do that isn't going to be very successful because people will realize that the information they are receiving is censored and the information they are putting in is also being censored so they will choose a new platform. I'm pretty confident that my opinions won't line up well with the twitter fact checkers so they will censor me and the moment they do, I will be done with twitter forever. If the president gets censored, he will throw a fit, and leave twitter in favor of some other platform that will not censor him and he will take his millions of followers with him. That other platform will become the next big site for political discussion and twitter will melt away. Only retaining the people who are comfortable in their echo chamber.

So trump wants to shut down twitter.. Why?

RoboGraham comments on May 27, 2020:

I don't trust a corporation such as twitter to handle fact checking responsibly and ubiasedly. If they can censor the president, they sure as shit can censor the rest of us and I highly doubt that Twitter's facts will line up nicely with mine. Far better to allow freedom of speech to function ...

RoboGraham replies on May 27, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty I'm all about people doing their own fact checking. The difference between my fact checking and twitter's fact checking is that I don't have the power to censor anyone, twitter does. Twitter can eliminate certain stories and certain points of view that they don't agree with, then I won't have the ability to fact check it and make up my own mind because it won't be there thanks to twitter's censorship. Of course Trump has the right to lie, we all do, that's freedom of speech. Twitter can lie too but to use their lies to obstruct the freedom of speech of others is unconstitutional. There is a difference between using your own 1st amendment freedom to lie and using your power as a media giant to take away the freedom of speech of others. If you actually take seriously the right to free speech and the concept of people taking responsibility for their own fact checking, why not allow everyone to say what they wish without corporate censorship and allow people to do their own fact checking and make up their own minds?

This happened just down the street from me.

JazznBlues comments on May 26, 2020:

This is what I call sin! Callously taking another life like he was trash. I hope they make an all time example of these cops. 99 years in max security prison sounds barely enough to me.

RoboGraham replies on May 27, 2020:

Last I heard, they've been fired but not charged with any crime. That's how it works with cops. If they are caught murdering, they don't have to pay for their crimes, they just have to find a new job.

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AncientNight comments on May 25, 2020:

WHAT THE FUCK IS A PROFESSIONAL HIPPIE? This MORON must have been listening to President Chump when he talks about how hazardous Wind Turbines are to endangered species of birds! The only time that Solar farms don't produce energy is when it's completely dark. They can even produce a sufficient ...

RoboGraham replies on May 27, 2020:

@AncientNight Lol, maybe give him more than 5 minutes before analogizing him with the evil bastard in the white house.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 26, 2020:

@WilliamFleming That's one way to put it.

Idiots they will get sick and some will die.

davknight comments on May 25, 2020:

If they are going to die, let them do it, and decrease the surplus population! The fewer Trumplerite fascists around,the better! Less room for them, and more room for us!

RoboGraham replies on May 26, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin Exactly, we are all part of this society and the actions of the ignorant science deniers effects all of us. Except for the elites of course. They separate themselves into their own extravagant little society where they don't need to come into contact with us peasants.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 26, 2020:

@Varn When you are closed minded and dismissive of what people say to you, they learn it's better not to say anything real in response to you. You do seem slightly friendlier than I remember you being. Did you read a self help book?

Jean Paul Sartre on war . .

TomMcGiverin comments on May 25, 2020:

Always been. Same with the death penalty. Never see a rich person executed, unless it's a war criminal executed by the winning side.

RoboGraham replies on May 26, 2020:

Very true. If you're rich, the justice system treats you with much leniency.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

AncientNight comments on May 25, 2020:

WHAT THE FUCK IS A PROFESSIONAL HIPPIE? This MORON must have been listening to President Chump when he talks about how hazardous Wind Turbines are to endangered species of birds! The only time that Solar farms don't produce energy is when it's completely dark. They can even produce a sufficient ...

RoboGraham replies on May 26, 2020:

@AncientNight I found it funny because it's kind of oxymoronic. And I know that Aaron meant it as a joke. He has a dry British style of humor that can be a bit off putting if you don't know better.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

SpikeTalon comments on May 26, 2020:

I hope it doesn't blow your mind too much, Robo. This only confirms what I've been saying for years now, American politics have become corrupt. The two-party monopoly is a sad joke.

RoboGraham replies on May 26, 2020:

You got that right. I wish I had realized that years ago rather than a matter of months ago.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

WilliamFleming comments on May 25, 2020:

Vote Libertarian!

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Bobbyzen Yup, we shouldn't have to sacrifice all of that just to get a sane drug policy which will cease the large scale incarceration of nonviolent offenders. It is possible for citizens to have these sorts of freedoms and for society to also have a reasonable government that provides necessary regulations. We just have to stop voting for the wrong leaders.

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dani2382 comments on May 23, 2020:

I told my mom that it doesn't matter if Biden or Trump is President. They're both different sides of the same coin. She's not a fan of Biden, but she wants him over Trump. I convinced my mom that it doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm scared for our bleak future.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@dani2382 So true and to get that amendment, we will need to circumvent both the democratic and republican parties because both are thoroughly corrupted by it.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn Try and flesh something out? You are notorious for not fleshing things out. You refuse to get into anything substantive.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@skado How could he forget about C? It's his favorite letter.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

WilliamFleming comments on May 25, 2020:

Vote Libertarian!

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

no thank you

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Bobbyzen Varn thinks he's so brave and admirable by going with the flow of the mainstream. As if there is anything courageous about being a lackey of the establishment.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

AncientNight comments on May 25, 2020:

WHAT THE FUCK IS A PROFESSIONAL HIPPIE? This MORON must have been listening to President Chump when he talks about how hazardous Wind Turbines are to endangered species of birds! The only time that Solar farms don't produce energy is when it's completely dark. They can even produce a sufficient ...

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

I agree that his presentation is a bit smug and dismissive but that doesn't mean that everything he says is invalid. Windmills do kill thousands of birds. Just because Trump said it doesn't make it untrue. Solar panel make some energy most of the time but there are still gaps when they aren't producing enough to meet demand and we don't have an effective way to store energy over time so back up methods are needed and those back ups are usually fossil fuels. I actually found the professional hippie line pretty funny. And I'm a bit of a hippie myself.

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dani2382 comments on May 23, 2020:

I told my mom that it doesn't matter if Biden or Trump is President. They're both different sides of the same coin. She's not a fan of Biden, but she wants him over Trump. I convinced my mom that it doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm scared for our bleak future.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn I'm not the one constantly concern trolling, that's you. I'm just expressing my opinion, same as everyone else here.

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dani2382 comments on May 23, 2020:

I told my mom that it doesn't matter if Biden or Trump is President. They're both different sides of the same coin. She's not a fan of Biden, but she wants him over Trump. I convinced my mom that it doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm scared for our bleak future.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn Those in need of help themselves are often not in the best position to offer it. It's like when there is an emergency on a airplane, get your own oxygen mask securely attached to your face before you go attempting to assist others.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn As always, VainVarn fails to grapple with the subject being discussed. The point brought up was that if you and others like you were to actually put pressure on the democratic leaders and advocate for good causes, that influence could actually make a difference. Your response is the same old pompous insults that you always dish out. We get along with most people just fine. It seems that you are the one have difficulties getting on with others due to your abrasive personality. Your disingenuous offer to help is nothing but condescending concern trolling and your accusation of us showing no growth is a projection of your own stiff ideology and blind loyalty to a party that consistently fails to learn from it's mistakes.

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David1955 comments on May 23, 2020:

The left have been warning and warning... Every time he talks from now on... he'll open his mouth to change feet.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn Hiding? And what are you doing? Hiding behind a picture of your hand? Yeah, you and the "Best" go and take on trump. I wish you the best of luck.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Bobbyzen Exactly, they could exert a great deal of influence for good causes but instead they remain blindly loyal and obedient.

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dani2382 comments on May 23, 2020:

I told my mom that it doesn't matter if Biden or Trump is President. They're both different sides of the same coin. She's not a fan of Biden, but she wants him over Trump. I convinced my mom that it doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm scared for our bleak future.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn How is it that Biden winning the primary = the Democratic party represents the interest of the people?

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Bobbyzen He never does. This guy is as hard headed as they come. And proud of it.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

gigihein comments on May 25, 2020:

Dont you.think this is motivated by big pharma too

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

Absolutely. Taking money from them I'm sure influences his stance on this issue. And taking money from the insurance companies influences his stance on healthcare reform.

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David1955 comments on May 23, 2020:

The left have been warning and warning... Every time he talks from now on... he'll open his mouth to change feet.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn It's not my fault that we have such a disaster of a candidate. I didn't vote for him.

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

VeronicaAnn comments on May 25, 2020:

This sucks and is disappointing. The Democratic party has regressed and is becoming shit :( Reason number 1,000 why I am not voting for Biden. I'm not heavily into conspiracy theories, but something isn't right to me about all this.... Like how Biden, the WORST Democratic candidate out of all the ...

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

I thought it would be over for him back when he said that poor kids can be as smart as white kids. Now after a sexual assault scandal and him telling a black man that if black people don't vote for him they ain't black, he is still, somehow, the nominee. This is nuts.

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dani2382 comments on May 23, 2020:

I told my mom that it doesn't matter if Biden or Trump is President. They're both different sides of the same coin. She's not a fan of Biden, but she wants him over Trump. I convinced my mom that it doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm scared for our bleak future.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn Yes, it is pretty sad that neither party represents the people. Wrong as always, hungh VainVarn

It blows my mind that in the year 2020 the democrats are still propping up leaders who have ...

Varn comments on May 25, 2020:

What **Blows my mind** is in the ***age of trump*** supposed *Agnostics & Atheists* continue to bash their only hope for survival within the USA…

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

If we don't bash our leaders when they deserve and are in need of a bashing, we will never have decent leaders.

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AnneWimsey comments on May 23, 2020:

I actually agree with Biden 1000%! Why in the Hell would you vote for someone who obviously glories in treating you like crap, dismisses the Fact that people of color are dying of Covid in obscene amounts,consistently tries to prevent you from voting, does Nothing for Flint(mostly black) aaaannnddd...

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@AnneWimsey He won because the electoral college is weighted in favor of his party and because he used a populist message that was very appealing to members of the working class who felt left behind by the policies of the neoliberals. It's not Jill Steins fault that Clinton lost. She failed to earn those votes. For most people who voted for Stein, they wouldn't have voted for Clinton even if Stein was not an option. If a politician fails to win trust and earn votes, that on the politician, not on the people who have standards for their leaders.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

also please read Monbiot's take on this: https://www.monbiot.com/2020/05/11/michael-and-me/

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Allamanda A n awesome win-win. Lawn mowers ought to be abolished in favor of grazing animals.

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AnneWimsey comments on May 23, 2020:

I actually agree with Biden 1000%! Why in the Hell would you vote for someone who obviously glories in treating you like crap, dismisses the Fact that people of color are dying of Covid in obscene amounts,consistently tries to prevent you from voting, does Nothing for Flint(mostly black) aaaannnddd...

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@AnneWimsey Are the 40% of potential voters who don't vote also voting for Trump? Trump must have superpowers to be getting votes that aren't even votes for him.

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AnneWimsey comments on May 23, 2020:

I actually agree with Biden 1000%! Why in the Hell would you vote for someone who obviously glories in treating you like crap, dismisses the Fact that people of color are dying of Covid in obscene amounts,consistently tries to prevent you from voting, does Nothing for Flint(mostly black) aaaannnddd...

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@AnneWimsey Is a vote vote for anybody but Trump actually a vote for Biden? Because that is the conclusion that people on the right are coming to by using that same flawed logic.

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AnneWimsey comments on May 23, 2020:

I actually agree with Biden 1000%! Why in the Hell would you vote for someone who obviously glories in treating you like crap, dismisses the Fact that people of color are dying of Covid in obscene amounts,consistently tries to prevent you from voting, does Nothing for Flint(mostly black) aaaannnddd...

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@AnneWimsey I'm sorry Anne, that is some very flawed logic you are using.

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TimeOutForMe comments on May 24, 2020:

Apparently Biden apologised. Anyone have that recording please?

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

"I should not have been so cavalier," he said. "I've never, never, ever taken the African American community for granted." He added: "I shouldn't have been such a wise guy." He continued: "No-one should have to vote for any party based on their race, their religion, their background." I don't see the word sorry in that apology. Only recognition that he said the wrong thing.

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Varn comments on May 23, 2020:

…..like he could have said all that ...in one breath :D It was a soundbite ..get over it ~

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@gigihein You got that right. His entire message revolves around the conservative concept of returning to normalcy. He has made it abundantly clear that under his watch, no progress will be made.

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Varn comments on May 23, 2020:

…..like he could have said all that ...in one breath :D It was a soundbite ..get over it ~

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

Right, let's just get over the fact that he arrogantly told an entire segment of society that if they don't vote for him, they lose their racial identity. I almost can't believe that it's the democratic nominee who said these things. Almost.

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AnneWimsey comments on May 23, 2020:

I actually agree with Biden 1000%! Why in the Hell would you vote for someone who obviously glories in treating you like crap, dismisses the Fact that people of color are dying of Covid in obscene amounts,consistently tries to prevent you from voting, does Nothing for Flint(mostly black) aaaannnddd...

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@Varn I'd say it's pretty reasonable for blacks to have reservations about voting for the guy who wrote the crime bill which caused mass incarceration and tore their communities apart. There is much for African Americans to be suspicious about in relation to Biden. His cooperation with segregationists int he 70's, his lying about his participation in the civil rights protests, his lying about being arrested while visiting Madela, His continued support of the drug war, his weird comments about poor kids being as smart as white kids... I know, I know, Trump is worse. That's always the go to argument when someone points out Biden's compromising flaws but still, how can we expect them to vote for such a leader? How can anybody vote for a guy like that?

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David1955 comments on May 23, 2020:

The left have been warning and warning... Every time he talks from now on... he'll open his mouth to change feet.

RoboGraham replies on May 25, 2020:

@David1955 The whole world and blind Freddy and his hearing impaired dog can see what's happened with the Democratic Party but Blue MAGA folks like Varn here are totally oblivious.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

He makes some useful points, and so on, but really the cherry-picking and bias makes one wonder if there's a hidden agenda... it should not be needed when what he's saying is true. Playing divide and rule between nuclear and renewables isn't clever or necessary, it's dishonest.

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@JackPedigo Fortunately technology is constantly advancing and everything is becoming more efficient. But that doesn't mean we can solve this problem with energy use reduction alone. Regardless of how energy efficient all of our electronics become, they will still need energy and regardless of how effective renewable energy sources become, they still cannot produce constantly because they depend on variable conditions to produce power. So there will always be a need for a back up source and right now those backups are almost always fossil fuels or biofuels. Both are insufficient to solve this problem. Reducing power consumption is easier said than done. You and I understand the importance but there are millions who don't know and don't care. They just want a convenient lifestyle and they don't care or don't understand what the consequences are. How will we get these people to use less? And how can we stop the population gain? There have been very few nuclear accidents in history. Just as the technology is always improving for renewable, it is constantly improving for nuclear also. Nuclear power is much less risky than it used to be and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Nuclear is safe, clean, and tremendously efficient. It is by far the clear choice to fight climate change.

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dani2382 comments on May 23, 2020:

I told my mom that it doesn't matter if Biden or Trump is President. They're both different sides of the same coin. She's not a fan of Biden, but she wants him over Trump. I convinced my mom that it doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm scared for our bleak future.

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Varn Both parties represent wealth. Neither represents the people.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

also please read Monbiot's take on this: https://www.monbiot.com/2020/05/11/michael-and-me/

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Allamanda The fermentation releases methane though right? That can't be good. I wasn't aware that management of waste and old sites was not being done properly. That is for sure something that must be sorted out before moving forward.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

also please read Monbiot's take on this: https://www.monbiot.com/2020/05/11/michael-and-me/

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Allamanda That sounds really good. Yes much better to fit them into the environment in a way that they have the least impact on ecosystems. I'm all for capturing energy in clever ways in places where it makes sense. I would point out that regardless of the type of biomass used, burning it will release carbon into the atmosphere. What are the problems that nuclear energy needs to clean up?

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

also please read Monbiot's take on this: https://www.monbiot.com/2020/05/11/michael-and-me/

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Allamanda I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that those points are incorrect. Care to elaborate?

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

also please read Monbiot's take on this: https://www.monbiot.com/2020/05/11/michael-and-me/

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Allamanda I think there is plenty enough information available at this point to make those assessments. Nuclear has a comparatively tiny carbon foot print compared to any fossil fuel or biomass. It takes up an enormously smaller amount of space compared to solar or wind and it is by far the safest option. Biomass releases carbon into the air and reduces the number of trees available to pull it out of the atmosphere and solar and wind often also require the removal of trees. Just as the technology improves for solar, it improves for nuclear. These days, nuclear power production is extremely safe.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

He makes some useful points, and so on, but really the cherry-picking and bias makes one wonder if there's a hidden agenda... it should not be needed when what he's saying is true. Playing divide and rule between nuclear and renewables isn't clever or necessary, it's dishonest.

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Allamanda Well that's great news. They are constantly improving. Solar still falls far short from nuclear though as far as I can tell.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

also please read Monbiot's take on this: https://www.monbiot.com/2020/05/11/michael-and-me/

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Allamanda Fission is better than coal, or natural gas, or biomass.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

also please read Monbiot's take on this: https://www.monbiot.com/2020/05/11/michael-and-me/

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

Yes that film has many issues. It was ridiculous how they came to such a pessimistic view. They implied that the only solution is population control while totally glossing over the real solution. I think they may have mentioned nuclear once in passing but otherwise totally ignored it. They used a lot of outdated information to emphasize the idea that renewable are inefficient and counterproductive. The technology has come a long way. Still, until we figure out a revolutionary new way to store energy, renewable will always have that one major inferiority. They are not constant and will need back up power production to fill in the gaps. I say we replace those fossil fuel backups with nuclear.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

He makes some useful points, and so on, but really the cherry-picking and bias makes one wonder if there's a hidden agenda... it should not be needed when what he's saying is true. Playing divide and rule between nuclear and renewables isn't clever or necessary, it's dishonest.

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@Allamanda My interpretation is that solving the nuclear waste issue will be easier than solving the solar panel waste issue. Solar panels are toxic and temporary so we will constantly be throwing them away and we will need to find a safe way to dispose of them. Sure nuclear waste is more dangerous but there is so much less of it. It will be easier to safely store a tiny amount of nuclear waste in comparison to the mountains of old solar panels that will eventually be tossed out.

A thought provoking take on green energy. [youtube.com]

Allamanda comments on May 24, 2020:

He makes some useful points, and so on, but really the cherry-picking and bias makes one wonder if there's a hidden agenda... it should not be needed when what he's saying is true. Playing divide and rule between nuclear and renewables isn't clever or necessary, it's dishonest.

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@JackPedigo I agree also, we need to reduce the amount of energy that we are using. Unfortunately, reducing it falls short of eliminating it so we are going to need large scale energy production unless we want to go back to living primitively. It seems that nuclear is the best option for our reduced energy needs. I think solar, wind and other renewable also have a part to play but it would be best to rely most heavily on nuclear because it is cleanest, safest and most efficient.

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FearlessFly comments on May 23, 2020:

Be sure to post when Trump apologizes for ANY nonsense he propagates. :O :P

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@FearlessFly Yes, we have to critique each other.

Let's all vote for the blue!

RoboGraham comments on May 23, 2020:

A competent president who doesn't share my values, doesn't represent me, doesn't support the policies I support and doesn't actually seem all that competent these days. Yeah great options we have.

RoboGraham replies on May 24, 2020:

@kensmile4u Well I'm glad that we agree on the goal. Thing is, I don't think the public option is the way to get there and I have very serious doubts about Biden. A public option would be nice but it would probably be doomed to failure. It will inevitably be underfunded and dysfunctional because the people who choose the public option will mostly be those unable to afford decent adequate insurance on the private market so the public option will consist of the people in most need of care and least able to pay. Add to that the fact that there are people in government who will actively undermine it at every turn and it will struggle to function properly. This will mean that care provided will be of lesser quality and wait times will be long. This will cause the public option to be viewed as inferior healthcare. It will develop a bad reputation and become known as the desperate option for poor people who can't afford good healthcare. It will do the opposite of what we want. People will choose the private market insurance over the public option more and more as time goes on and it will calcify that notion that government run health insurance is inherently inferior and dysfunctional. A fully single payer system will be less vulnerable to these issues because everyone will be participating in it. It won't be viewed as second class healthcare because it is the only option, everyone, rich and poor alike, will get their care through it. It will be less likely to be underfunded because it's funding is coming from everyone and we all know that things that the rich participate in get more funding. With the wealthy being involved in this single payer system, funding is much more likely to be adequate. It's easy to cut funding for programs that only poor marginalized people depend on but you try and cut it for something that wealthier people need and you will suffer politically. Of course there will still be people in government who will attempt to destroy it but that is much harder to do when everyone depends on it, not just poor people who have no voice. I think this will be much more likely to develop a good reputation, gain the trust of the population, and have the resiliency to function despite attempts to destroy it by our political enemies. I don't believe that it is the disruptive nature of implementing a single payer system which is preventing it from being created. It has majority support. Most people understand it's benefits and want it implemented. Many are convinced that it can't be done and so we must compromise and do it incrementally. I think the true reason it is so delayed is because the politicians have been bought by the insurance companies. I don't believe that Biden truly wants to move forward toward that single payer goal. He is loyal ...

Let's all vote for the blue!

RoboGraham comments on May 23, 2020:

A competent president who doesn't share my values, doesn't represent me, doesn't support the policies I support and doesn't actually seem all that competent these days. Yeah great options we have.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@kensmile4u Any system which allows predatory for profit insurance companies to get rich by making things as complicated and difficult as possible for sick people to get the care that they need is not rational nor is it ethical.

Let's all vote for the blue!

RoboGraham comments on May 23, 2020:

A competent president who doesn't share my values, doesn't represent me, doesn't support the policies I support and doesn't actually seem all that competent these days. Yeah great options we have.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@kensmile4u I'm aware of the task forces and the support of notable progressives. It's all meaningless. It doesn't change the fact that Biden does not represent me, does not support my policies, and does not share my values. He refuses to support a rational healthcare system and therefor his ideology is in direct opposition to mine.

Have the democrats learned enough?

RoboGraham comments on May 23, 2020:

After Clinton lost, the democrats did no reflecting on their defeat. They engaged in shameful scapegoating. They blamed everyone but themselves and took no responsibility as leaders ought to do. Now they are running the same failed neoliberal strategy with a very similar but, amazingly, slightly...

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@kmaz That is indeed a very big if. I've seen little to suggest that they do desire victory or even that they intend to resist the president. We have had control of one house of Congress for sometime and Pelosi has almost completely greenlit Trump's agenda. She engaged in some political theater in the form of an ill advised impeachment which was doomed to fail but she hasn't actually opposed him on much. There was the shutdown over wall money. Not over whether or not the wall would be funded but over just how many billions Trump would get, and he got what he needed. Otherwise, the House has been very cooperative with Trump. It seems to me that the democratic establishment is content with Trump in control. They aren't actually all that different from him on policy because the democratic party has moved so far right and with him in power, they are able to maintain their own grip on power by playing off of the hatred people have for Trump. They don't need to work hard to move the country forward, all they have to do is superficial stuff like calling Trump names and the money comes rolling in. To answer your question of why they are running if they don't want to win, here's my take. The two parties are two sides of the same coin. They are funded by and govern for the same set of elites so they have the same general goals and therefore, it doesn't matter all that much which one of them wins. The republicans are the obvious right wingers who overtly fight for a conservative corporatist agenda. It's a little more complicated for the democrats. On the surface, they are the liberal party but their true function is to capture whatever enthusiasm and political influence is generated by the left and then funnel it into the democratic support behind establishment candidates where it is then purposefully squandered. It's no coincidence that the party was so decisive and capable against the Sanders movement but is then so inept and spinless when negotiating with republicans. They start every negotiation from the center and compromise their way to a right wing outcome. I think this is purposeful because it is what the ruling class wants and they control both parties through their bribes, sorry, I mean campaign contributions. There is of course some competition and differences in ideology between these two parties but they have much more in common than what separates them and they both view their true political enemies as the outsiders who might actually make some real fundamental changes and rock their gravy boat.

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Theresa_N comments on May 23, 2020:

For me it's not that I don't want to get rid of tRump or that Biden isn't better than tRump, he is. I am finished though with voting for candidates that don't represent my views. Biden doesn't share with me very many positions on policy. If Biden supported Medicare for All, a green new deal, and ...

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

Glad to hear it. I'd recommend voting for a third party because if another party gets enough support, the media will be forced to actually pay attention to them and maybe even let them on the debate stage. If people are exposed to other parties and see them as possibly viable, the two party system will lose some support.

Places of religious worship are essential stated Trump in his news briefing, and that State ...

barjoe comments on May 22, 2020:

I hope all those churchgoers get infected.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Good on ya, I couldn't possibly play that.

Places of religious worship are essential stated Trump in his news briefing, and that State ...

barjoe comments on May 22, 2020:

I hope all those churchgoers get infected.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd Good choice. It's such a great tune. And really funny too. Was she entertained?

Places of religious worship are essential stated Trump in his news briefing, and that State ...

barjoe comments on May 22, 2020:

I hope all those churchgoers get infected.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@Fred_Snerd I absolutely love this song.

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Buddha comments on May 23, 2020:

he is such a bad choice.. it's like the dems want to lose

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

I don't think they want to lose but winning isn't all that important to them. They are satisfied enough with Trump. Biden's nomination had much more to do with keeping Sanders away from power than it does with a serious attempt to remove Trump from power.

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FearlessFly comments on May 23, 2020:

Be sure to post when Trump apologizes for ANY nonsense he propagates. :O :P

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@AnneWimsey He said they aren't black if they choose Trump over him so yes he is suggesting that their race is changed if they vote a certain way. Trump isn't good for any people of any color. Why didn't he say that white people aren't white if they vote for Trump over him?

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barjoe comments on May 23, 2020:

I don't care of Joe Biden stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoots somebody in the head, I'm voting for him.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@barjoe Many people are outraged about this. If it's mainly white people who are taken aback, that's even worse for his chances because there are a lot more white voters than there are black voters. And by the way, there are many black people who are less than pleased about it as well. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/22/theres-not-much-upside-biden-attacking-black-voters-who-dont-support-him/

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barjoe comments on May 23, 2020:

I don't care of Joe Biden stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoots somebody in the head, I'm voting for him.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@barjoe I'd like to see the same thing but that doesn't mean that Trump's challenger gets a pass when he does and says ridiculous things just because he is opposing Trump. In fact, doing things like arrogantly telling black people they ain't black if they don't vote for your way makes it less likely that Trump will be leaving office anytime soon.

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barjoe comments on May 23, 2020:

I don't care of Joe Biden stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoots somebody in the head, I'm voting for him.

RoboGraham replies on May 23, 2020:

@AnneWimsey I suspected some sarcasm but still, this sentiment of bullheaded loyalty to a certain candidate in a certain party regardless what the candidate says and does is very reminiscent of the MAGA crowd.