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I live in Lehigh County, and the Morning Call is a local newspaper.
Seriousreason comments on Jun 19, 2022:
Never fear . His diversity hire press secretary assures us . " Biden is doing all he can to address these concerns " Well I feel better , Jesus Christ the man has 2 more years to continue his path of destruction.. Midterms can't come quick enough . Such a great American political fail stop...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 19, 2022:
@Seriousreason Sorry to hear about your poor health, and if moving to the US isn't feasible at this point I hope you can get a transplant and at least your health improves. Be well Mark, always good to hear from you.
I live in Lehigh County, and the Morning Call is a local newspaper.
Seriousreason comments on Jun 19, 2022:
Never fear . His diversity hire press secretary assures us . " Biden is doing all he can to address these concerns " Well I feel better , Jesus Christ the man has 2 more years to continue his path of destruction.. Midterms can't come quick enough . Such a great American political fail stop...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 19, 2022:
Are you still considering making a move to the US? Plenty of my fellow Americans would surely welcome a hardworking and honest guy like yourself, someone who isn't politically correct.
What does liberalism mean to you?
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 18, 2022:
Being open-minded and logical & reasonable. Defending individual rights and liberty, and equality for all according to the laws. Not sure about Mises political leaning, but Ron Paul is a Republican masquerading as a Libertarian, and Republican and Libertarian are two different things. I think ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 19, 2022:
@Matias I know not of a single libertarian who thinks there is no meaningful level beyond the individual, but I do know many libertarians who realize that if human beings are not gratified on an individual level then they never truly will be as a society (as a whole, aka collectivism). Have to disagree with you on the battle cry part there, and that sounds like the hardline conservative approach to the matter and not an actual libertarian take. Libertarians do recognize structured society does indeed exist, and believe interactions in society should be on a voluntary basis (voluntaryism). Thatcher was a hardline conservative, hardly libertarian. Again, the true liberals not only recognize society as a whole but that in order for said society to thrive individual rights must be respected under all circumstances, and in turn when individual rights are respected the people are generally happier and more productive with considerably lower levels of crime. The true liberals/libertarians recognize our collective strengths and differences help build up society when no force or coercion of any sort is being promoted, through voluntary actions we move society forward in a positive direction. You said above: "The corollary of this is that individuals not only have rights, but also duties and a responability for the well-being of society and the common good." Not arguing that much, we all do have duties to fulfill in society... but it should all be carried out on a voluntary basis though, for as soon as any sort of force enters the equation liberalism as we know it dies a tragic death. When so-called liberals (actually referring to American progressives there) seek to implement force against every citizen, whether that be via excessive taxes/unfair laws/or Federal and State authorities, that constitutes authoritarianism, because such actions are not genuinely liberal. What @TheInterlooper linked to above, while a lengthy read, pretty much offered the clarifications you were seeking. Of all the points raised in this post, this one in particular I vehemently stand behind... if a human being does/cannot find gratification on an individual level, then said person will surely not find such gratification from society as a whole let alone be a productive member in society. That is the reason why the situation(s) in my country appears to have degenerated to a point of no return, because the overall focus of those running things here in the US have turned their backs on individualism in favor of collectivism, under the guise of what's more beneficial for society as a whole. As long as progressive collectivism is allowed to take center stage, the society I live in as a whole will continue to suffer random acts of hostility and violence and upheavals of the sorts. As ...
What does liberalism mean to you?
Fernapple comments on Jun 18, 2022:
I don't know. The label has had so many different and often contradictory meanings, from both the political left and the political right, that it is hard to nail down a single thread. Even if you are talking about self defined liberalism on the left only, then some see it as the same thing as ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 18, 2022:
I agree with you on the contradictory meanings part, which does make it hard to attach that label to any particular group. Such confusion is mostly due to the fact that there are conceivably various areas in which one could either be more liberal or conservative on. When someone asks me which am I more of liberal or conservative, I often respond by asking what is it exactly that we are striving to either be liberal or conservative on? Some of those areas would be (not necessarily limited to) the overall economy/economic policy, foreign policy, the Constitution or federal laws establishing the rights of its citizens, and social-based issues. Regarding the economy and Constitutional rights I'm right-leaning, but lean more to the left when it comes to foreign policy and social issues, pretty much split evenly there, so how would one label an individual like me? I'm sure some would say liberal, while others would say definitely conservative, but all in all I'd say my overall views and state of mind would fall under the independent liberal category. Political identities of course vary from country to country, and all these labels can really wrack one's mind after awhile. Small wonder why there's an increasing number of Independents in my country.
With Roe v.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 17, 2022:
I fault Ruth Bader. She was terminal ill, she was sick for some time, she was frail, she was fully aware of the threat to Roe vs Wade but still did not retire soon enough during the presidency of a Democrat President. What do you call it? Power and status hungry. She is made a hero beyond reason ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 17, 2022:
@CourtJester Recreational drugs are illegal, has that stopped people from acquiring drugs and in the process develop drug addictions? Prostitution is illegal, has that stopped all sex workers? Look at all the useless gun control laws, which have done nothing to deter violent gunmen. Women will still find ways around anti abortion laws. There are laws against murdering fellow human beings, yet people murder others every day, so what good are all these laws anyway if so many simply choose to ignore them? Also, in order to enforce such laws like anti abortion ones, conceivably that means it could come at the expense of the taxpayers, as if the taxpayers already don't get screwed over enough as is with all the socialized Government programs. Go ahead and make things illegal/ban them if you so desire, just don't be surprised if your laws fail and people doing whatever they want to regardless, is all I'm saying. Criminals and desperate people care not about the laws.
With Roe v.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 17, 2022:
I fault Ruth Bader. She was terminal ill, she was sick for some time, she was frail, she was fully aware of the threat to Roe vs Wade but still did not retire soon enough during the presidency of a Democrat President. What do you call it? Power and status hungry. She is made a hero beyond reason ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 17, 2022:
@Captain_Feelgood Democrats are upset at the conservative-leaning SCOTUS Judges when in reality they have one of their own (Ginsburg) to thank for their current woes on the matter. The irony there is split thick.
With Roe v.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 17, 2022:
I fault Ruth Bader. She was terminal ill, she was sick for some time, she was frail, she was fully aware of the threat to Roe vs Wade but still did not retire soon enough during the presidency of a Democrat President. What do you call it? Power and status hungry. She is made a hero beyond reason ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 17, 2022:
@CourtJester Yeah right, as if banning things ever made them go away. Look at all the gun control laws on the books that have continually failed us, which is why I'm against any sort of gun control legislation because such does absolutely nothing. Same is true with anti abortion laws, women will still find ways to abort regardless of what your laws have to say. The point for this post in case you missed it, was to point out double standards from the left regarding being upset now over Roe being in jeopardy, when in reality they could thank one of their own for being selfish and ultimately putting Roe on the chopping block. The irony there amuses me.
With Roe v.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 17, 2022:
I fault Ruth Bader. She was terminal ill, she was sick for some time, she was frail, she was fully aware of the threat to Roe vs Wade but still did not retire soon enough during the presidency of a Democrat President. What do you call it? Power and status hungry. She is made a hero beyond reason ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 17, 2022:
You nailed it, power hungry, and look at what that's got us...
To date, here are a few of Biden's accomplishments.
Marionville comments on Jun 15, 2022:
I hate to break this news to you…but every country in the world is suffering the same problems as the USA at present, at least in respect of your numbers 1 to 4. Number 5 - I cannot comment on, but to solely blame Biden for the world’s current woes is to be wilfully introspective and ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 15, 2022:
Whilst I do not deny that inflation is a global problem affecting nearly every major country in the world, it cannot be denied that the US has seen one of the largest increases in such. Said increase is largely due in part to Biden's economic policies, and I don't think it a mere coincidence that during the previous Administration the US economy was fairly stable, and it took about a year into the current Admin for things to really unravel. Also, I don't necessarily blame all of the US's current woes on Biden directly, but I do blame him for not coming up with viable longterm solutions to our economic troubles. On the flip side, it's worth pointing out that while he was President, Trump had received a great deal of blame for various problems going on in the US at the time, at least some of which he was not directly responsible for, yet that didn't stop the progressive Democrats from blaming him for just about everything. I don't take sides there either by the way, as I equally disdain both Trump and Biden. You can't blame everything on Russia either (even though I despise the war criminal Putin), as America's economic troubles were going on long before Russia unjustly invaded Ukraine. Again, I do not blame Biden directly for all of the economic woes of my fellow Americans, but I do blame Biden for his largely ineffective economic policies that are only making things worse, and the fact that he's a weak leader, to put it mildly. Just as sure as previous Administrations were an embarrassment to my country, so too is Biden an equal embarrassment. I'm sure you heard about the Uvalde Texas school shooting, and the lackluster job by the local police which undoubtedly led to there being more casualties. Do you know what Biden had to say on the Uvalde Police? Biden said he had the utmost respect for those officers and thought all in all they did a good job, despite the fact that the evidence on the matter would clearly say otherwise. Both Democrats and Republicans were outraged over the Uvalde Police response to that school shooting, which speaks great volumes unto itself whenever those two can agree on something, and there's Biden singing his praises to those cops who should rightly lose their jobs after that fiasco. How's that for embarrassing? And don't tell me about the embarrassing things past US Presidents have said or done, that would be deflecting, and certainly doesn't negate from the embarrassing crap Biden (who is the current President) has and continues to do.
Lily Tang Williams on gun control.
FvckY0u comments on Jun 13, 2022:
While I don't disagree with you I do wish to point out one, maybe not so obvious fact about the massacre at Tian An Men square. Had those students been armed it would have only increased the number of innocent killed. The soldiers were acting on behalf of their government, however, they themselves...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 13, 2022:
Valid point I suppose, but neither situation is ideal. Peace would certainly be more ideal, but some of those in positions of power and authority all but make that impossible with their hostile actions towards others, which in turn leads some to conclude they are probably better off arming themselves so as to not become a victim. All considered, such a scenario is a complex issue with no easy solution(s).
To my fellow pro choicers on here, if you honestly believe the Democrats care about your individual ...
puff comments on Jun 9, 2022:
To protect and serve.............great PR for policing. A little heavy handed.
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 9, 2022:
Heavy handed indeed, and the Biden Admin apparently had no qualms in how the police handled that situation, which says quite a bit.
To my fellow pro choicers on here, if you honestly believe the Democrats care about your individual ...
FvckY0u comments on Jun 9, 2022:
I've been republican in my life, I've been democrat in my life and I've been independent in my life. One thing I've discovered is that it doesn't matter one fucking bit in the scheme of things.
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 9, 2022:
Sadly, I have to agree on that, either way it doesn't seem to matter much. That said, personally I'm fairly content as a registered Independent.
That’s for sure !
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 7, 2022:
Anyone who thinks Biden is actually making a positive impact on our economy must be naive or stupid.
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 9, 2022:
@Alienbeing Lying, and possibly also delusional.
Late last night, police in Montgomery County, Maryland, arrested a man near the home of Supreme ...
Unity comments on Jun 9, 2022:
He wanted get arrested. It was clearly a cry for help
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 9, 2022:
He needs help, that's for sure.
Late last night, police in Montgomery County, Maryland, arrested a man near the home of Supreme ...
TheInterlooper comments on Jun 8, 2022:
I'm sure Kamala will bail him out.
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 8, 2022:
For sure, lol.
Robert Heinlein.
bigpawbullets comments on May 11, 2022:
I just stopped in for a moment. Suckered in by the "Robert Heinlein" reference. But I see nothing here has changed. "Another time Highlander!".... 😎🍷
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 7, 2022:
???
I posted something of a personal nature and it's taken down.
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 3, 2022:
Don't feel bad, I just did a post that criticized an incident that recently occured in the state of California, an absurd incident at that, and that post appears to have been made private. Guess you can't openly criticize the state of California on this site, lol. The posting standards for this site...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 7, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay No actual response, but apparently my message was received at least.
I posted something of a personal nature and it's taken down.
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 3, 2022:
Don't feel bad, I just did a post that criticized an incident that recently occured in the state of California, an absurd incident at that, and that post appears to have been made private. Guess you can't openly criticize the state of California on this site, lol. The posting standards for this site...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 7, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay After complaining to SiteSupport in private, looks like my post in question was made public now.
"To dismiss religion without being aware of the evidence is to do the same thing so many religious ...
Fernapple comments on Jun 7, 2022:
Skado claims that his position is, that he does not believe a word of the supernatural claims, but that he thinks the goatherders wrote, really great books filled with wisdom. Which is why I am happy to contest with him. Because to my mind believing there was once a golden age of wisdom and ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 7, 2022:
Dang, looks like I missed something on here. Based on some of what I read, sounds like that there @skado feller is becoming a controversial character on this site. Joking aside, agree or disagree with him, but he does raise logical points in his posts, and said posts are in more detail than the average philosophical post on here.
Who can we complain to about someone complaining about one of the nice guys on the site and calling ...
BD66 comments on Jun 7, 2022:
We're an unregulated bunch. :-)
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 7, 2022:
@BD66 Someone is moderating general forum posts, some of mine were made private, and strange thing is most of them were not even political they were academic or for fun.
"Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism“ — Joseph Stalin
Garban comments on Apr 26, 2022:
Stalin wasn’t exactly remembered for his capacity for deep thinking.
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 6, 2022:
@TheInterlooper If you're gonna have a fight, give me a chance to sell some tickets first, lol.
President Joe Biden says he wants Democrats and Republicans to join together in responding to mass ...
Tejas comments on Jun 5, 2022:
The guy is clueless on firearms. I feel we firearms enthusiasts are screwed in the not too far future. Imagine being able to create laws over something that you have almost zero knowledge over, doesn't make alot of sense. But that's what we have to deal with, the current left and numerous fudds on ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 5, 2022:
Scary, I know.
I posted something of a personal nature and it's taken down.
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 3, 2022:
Don't feel bad, I just did a post that criticized an incident that recently occured in the state of California, an absurd incident at that, and that post appears to have been made private. Guess you can't openly criticize the state of California on this site, lol. The posting standards for this site...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 3, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay I don't think all of those hired by Admin to maintain the site fully align with his own personal political/social views. Also, which posts make it to the public feeds and which ones that don't seem to be at random, I've had posts of mine some of which were political and others which were for leisure get made private like that, which yes is somewhat peculiar indeed. As for quick response when members need help, I get you on that much, that can be frustrating. Perhaps Admin and his staff concluded that we as adults need to work out issues among ourselves and get past the needless drama, neverminding the fact that blocking disruptive dramatic members and or creeps is always an option we all have. I can agree that Admin himself is not active on here like he was in the beginning when the site was relatively new, but someone is definitely still moderating public posts and basic site functionality. As for Admin no longer caring about what happens to the site, can you blame him? After repeated efforts on his part to encourage civil discourse among all site members in particular regarding politics, look how his efforts to keep the peace have mostly failed, that's got to be frustrating. Look how many members we lost, deleted their accounts due to the site becoming increasingly toxic. Altschmerz and Paracosm were two such individuals who had contributed much to the site, and both of them are gone now. In particular pay close attention to the comments on some of the Senate group posts that raised concerns over needless member drama, said comments of which were mostly snide and degrading, that's the sort of thing that turned Admin off to the site. Again, can't say I blame him, after repeated efforts to encourage civility. Thought you deleted your SLUG/IDW profile, did you open a new account on there?? Pretty much so, and in fact recently someone did a post in the Senate group on there asking about the Coins rewards program, which apparently is also no longer functional. That though has raised the ire in some members with them claiming fraud on Admin's part advertising for monetary incentives etc once enough Coins are earned, yet not following through when someone places an order. Let me know if you decide on becoming active on there again, not sure if @skado still is and if he came across the recent Senate post I was referring to? On a last side note here... keep in mind in order to run and maintain sites like this a steady flow of funding is necessary, and being this site and IDW are totally free to use minus any sort of advertising, these sites aren't exactly self-sustaining as some others are that either are ad-supported or offer paid premium memberships. Last I heard from Admin, he was working on other sites that do have paid membership ...
I posted something of a personal nature and it's taken down.
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 3, 2022:
Don't feel bad, I just did a post that criticized an incident that recently occured in the state of California, an absurd incident at that, and that post appears to have been made private. Guess you can't openly criticize the state of California on this site, lol. The posting standards for this site...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 3, 2022:
@AnneWimsey Who do you think SiteSupport, Developer, and CS10 are? They work for Admin, hence are a part of his staff, and I'm sure there are others that we don't even know about.
I posted something of a personal nature and it's taken down.
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 3, 2022:
Don't feel bad, I just did a post that criticized an incident that recently occured in the state of California, an absurd incident at that, and that post appears to have been made private. Guess you can't openly criticize the state of California on this site, lol. The posting standards for this site...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 3, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay Here's my proof by the way, and if you cannot access it that would mean the site staff made it private, because I know I didn't make it private- "Over the years based on some of what I've seen and heard about what goes on in the state of ..."
Conservatives are to progressives as The Brotherhood is to The Party.
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 3, 2022:
Can you see this post? "Over the years based on some of what I've seen and heard about what goes on in the state of ..."
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 3, 2022:
@TheInterlooper You can't access it at all? Thought so, that means it was made private. The post criticized a recent policy in California, so being that it bashed a leftwing state it got censored...
I posted something of a personal nature and it's taken down.
SpikeTalon comments on Jun 3, 2022:
Don't feel bad, I just did a post that criticized an incident that recently occured in the state of California, an absurd incident at that, and that post appears to have been made private. Guess you can't openly criticize the state of California on this site, lol. The posting standards for this site...
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 3, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay No, public post, and all but two groups including this one that I'm a member of I actually host, so generally getting group posts censored/deleted is not a concern to me. While you may not have "seen" any of Admin's staff recently on here, that doesn't mean they aren't present, and someone has to be moderating all of the general feed (public) posts. So my post I referred to above was a public one, you can't use the group hosts getting the final say argument, and looks like I'm not the only one that has happened to. Admin isn't the only one who moderates posts on here ya know? As for his "conservative bent", he's no more conservative than I am in reality, and I've long considered myself liberal (libertarianism originated as a form of leftwing politics, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism). With the passing of time the definitions of some political ideologies have changed, so by today's standards it would appear guys like he and I are more conservative, although more to the truth we are centrists, or as you prefer to call it the "middleway". Again, just because you haven't personally heard from someone doesn't automatically mean they aren't active on here, and as that old saying goes... all in a hard day's lurk (or something like that anyways, lol).
Politicians should resist the urge to 'do anything' in response to school shootings.
azzow2 comments on Jun 1, 2022:
Something that had crossed my mind in doing research about schizophrenia I learned that most people with that affliction develop it in their late teenage years. Just as a thought would raising the firearms purchase age to 21 help to avert problems?
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 1, 2022:
Hard to say either way.
Been watching that movie No Time For Sergeants recently, and now I've got this song stuck in my ...
richiegtt comments on Jun 1, 2022:
I love the Big band era of music .Benny Goodman was the most popular clarinetist in American history and played a key role in making jazz mainstream .
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 1, 2022:
Admittedly, big band music is not among my preferred genres, but it was a nice era in which produced many talented musicians, and the one I linked to above has a really catchy beat to it.
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SpikeTalon comments on May 25, 2022:
Both thoughts and prayers along with the gun control laws currently on the books have pretty much been useless so far.
SpikeTalon replies on Jun 1, 2022:
@Seriousreason It does, and like you said nothing but a knee-jerk reaction from the left.
Got to control the people [axios.com]
SpikeTalon comments on May 30, 2022:
Canada has far stricter gun control laws than here in the USA, and their laws didn't save them from a mass shooting in Nova Scotia- https://people.com/crime/canada-mass-shooting-16-people-killed/ Oh well, so much for the laws. Oh that's right, criminals don't give a damn about the laws, which is ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 31, 2022:
@NostraDumbass Who cares where he got the weapons from, point is he got them somehow regardless of the laws, the laws didn't prevent mass shootings. Again, the frequency is besides the point, so I'll ask again what good are more laws when the current ones are powerless to stop criminals from getting their hands on weapons, and you even admit yourself that all the laws in the world will not deter every determined criminal. Laws either work or they don't, there is no in between, and if any of them fail even once that means they didn't work, so makes you think more of the same is going to make any substantial difference? Yeah, more useless legislation, as if speeders and intoxicated/high individuals have any regards for such, and once again you've admitted that and proven my point. I question those laws as well. Actually it is an argument against speed limits, last time I checked most areas of the Autobahn in Germany lack speed limits, so at least the Germans are a bit smarter than Canada and the US and that part. I seriously doubt Germany has the same problem with speeders and DUI as the US does.
Was doing more research on mass shooting incidents and how they can be connected to a poor state of ...
azzow2 comments on May 30, 2022:
Having dealt with schizophrenics and bipolar people in my own life experiences it is understandable how these breaks, in reality, happen to those people.
SpikeTalon replies on May 30, 2022:
I understand it too, and some years back had also worked with individuals suffering from various mental illnesses, but when people get like that they need help, and blaming all the ills on guns as some do is absurd. Unfortunately, society still stigmatizes people like that.
Here's another reason why expanded background checks, longer waiting periods, or bans on certain ...
Trajan61 comments on May 29, 2022:
It’s all about power Spike. The Democraps want total power over us and without our guns it will be much easier for them.
SpikeTalon replies on May 29, 2022:
Indeed.
The Brown Bess was the standard fire arm during writing of the second amendment.
Ryo1 comments on May 27, 2022:
Slightly off the topic, shortly after his 18th birthday this month, the school shooter in Texas bought two assault rifles and 375 rounds of ammunition. He could just walk in the store and bought them without being required to get a license. I wish someone in America could give me one good reason ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 29, 2022:
@Ryo1 Definitely on the mental health part, and I strongly believe that if there were less cases of mental illness and addictions there would be considerably less acts of violence, when people are fairly content crime usually goes down. My fellow Americans suffer from a multitude of addictions, which in turn eventually cause depression and anguish.
The Brown Bess was the standard fire arm during writing of the second amendment.
Ryo1 comments on May 27, 2022:
Slightly off the topic, shortly after his 18th birthday this month, the school shooter in Texas bought two assault rifles and 375 rounds of ammunition. He could just walk in the store and bought them without being required to get a license. I wish someone in America could give me one good reason ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 29, 2022:
Oops, hit send by accident, was not quite done. Then you have the issue of radicalized rightwingers who go around threatening acts of violence. Some leftwing groups are just as bad, back in June 2020 shortly after the George Floyd incident there was a huge racial justice protest that marched through my neighborhood, and some of the protesters started harassing my neighbor over an American Flag he had on his deck, and I thought things were going to get violent based on some threats the protesters made and that two of them picked up rocks in anticipation of throwing them at my neighbor. Had not the slightest clue if any of them were armed or not with other weapons. When up against a group of potentially violent thugs, a rifle like that is not a bad idea to have on hand. Some gun owners like rifles like that due to the unique challenge of sport/competition shooting with them, as each gun out there has a certain amount of recoil etc when firing, so no two guns necessarily handle the same way and some people like that challenge.
The Brown Bess was the standard fire arm during writing of the second amendment.
Ryo1 comments on May 27, 2022:
Slightly off the topic, shortly after his 18th birthday this month, the school shooter in Texas bought two assault rifles and 375 rounds of ammunition. He could just walk in the store and bought them without being required to get a license. I wish someone in America could give me one good reason ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 29, 2022:
I knew of a few individuals with ties to the black market, and on the black market they could buy guns circumventing the laws requiring any licenses or background checks. Why would any American need such a rifle? This for a starter- https://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-justices-threatened-murder-roe-v-wade-overturned-1707869 Crazed protesters issuing threats of violence, and DHS isn't taking such threats lightly. If I were some of those judges I'd surely arm myself to protect my loved ones just in case. Full disclosure and for what it's worth, I'm staunchly pro choice when it comes to abortion and can sympathize with those protesters on the matter, but making threats of violence is going too far. Unfortunately, racism is still a problem in the US, might not be a bad idea for black families to have such a rifle on hand in case they get harassed or threatened by a group of white supremacists. An obvious factor is black market weapons/illegal ways. When someone goes that route, what good are the laws? It's also too easy to lift weapons from local Guard bases or police cruisers, which one guy I knew some years back demonstrated, he and his contacts would steal weapons from a local Guard base and sell them on the street. So much for the laws...
A perfect day today in the best town in America. 😁
SpikeTalon comments on May 29, 2022:
Where would that be??
SpikeTalon replies on May 29, 2022:
@skado Does look like a nice place.
Primary fluid inclusions in bedded halite from the 830-m.
p-nullifidian comments on May 28, 2022:
Incredible find. Thank you for this share!
SpikeTalon replies on May 29, 2022:
Sure thing, and yes it is an incredible discovery.
From BATSHIT HELL to MONKEYPOXALYPSE Do many here, still follow everything the ultimate mighty ...
SpikeTalon comments on May 28, 2022:
Fear is a good tool to keep the masses under control.
SpikeTalon replies on May 28, 2022:
@Castlepaloma One could only hope so.
Don't say it doesn't work.
Alienbeing comments on May 28, 2022:
Common sense says if one cannot access a gun, one cannot use a gun. However that statement is simplistic because it ignores the fact that, unlike the U.K. or any other country, the USA has a Constitutional provision allowing gun ownership. Our Constitution can be amended, however that is a long ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 28, 2022:
@Petter No, you are avoiding the reality of the situation, reality being that if it happened again in recent time then it could happen again in the near future. I'm sure back in 2010 after that incident some people were probably thinking to themselves that such a scenario would never happen again due to their strict gun control laws in place, and eventually given enough time gone by along came the incident in 2021 proving such people wrong. Why is that so difficult for some of you folks to understand my concern there? The laws didn't help, they didn't back in 2010 and some eleven years later they failed yet again, and conceivably they could fail again in the near future. That's not "clutching at straws" compadre, that's a realistic outlook on the matter, and a truly intelligent person who does not let their emotions dictate to them would think ahead and prepare adequately for what the future may bring about. On a side note, the no guns allowed on school premises law in Texas (and virtually every other state) did nothing to deter the gunman, and eventually it was a concerned citizen armed with a gun who neutralized the threat and in the process probably saving lives. Gun control legislation did nothing to actually save lives, but an armed citizen sure did something about that. That's reality, based on current evidence.
Don't say it doesn't work.
SpikeTalon comments on May 28, 2022:
Yeah, maybe no school shootings, but the laws haven't stopped mass shootings in general, so that meme is only telling some of the story. If the laws worked as some like to think they would, then common sense should dictate there should be ZERO mass shootings anywhere, but that's not reality, and ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 28, 2022:
@Petter What you are trying to argue above defies logic and reasoning, and obviously mass shootings can and still are occuring in the UK regardless of their laws, with the most recent incident occuring less than a year ago. Why don't you stop trying to deflect from reality, my compadre? When it comes to laws, they either work as intended or they do not and fail, there is no in between on that matter, it's one or the other. A recent mass shooting in the UK tells me the laws did not protect those innocents who got killed, so in other words said laws failed, someone found a way to circumvent the laws. Let me put this in a way that someone like you could relate to easily.... once upon a time in the US abortion procedures were outlawed, yet many women still found a way around the laws and got abortions. Fast forward to present time, our Supreme Court is set to roll back women's rights on the matter with many states waiting to make all abortion procedures illegal. Now, do you think for one moment such laws will really curb all abortions? I certainly do not, and if by chance your answer be yes to that, then you and I will have to argue. Same is true with recreational drugs, despite such being illegal that hasn't stopped drug addictions and overdose deaths from such, and that problem is only getting worse. Again, the laws aren't helping any. While gun control and abortion may be two separate topics, the concept behind both is certainly the same, there are some folks who want to outlaw all privately owned firearms and other folks want to abolish all abortion procedures, and laws restricting or banning either of them have not and will not ever work as intended. Do know when I make these sort of arguments, it is not my intention to be mean or nasty to you or anyone else, and as someone who was once a zealous gun control activist I speak from experience on that matter, and I'm all too familiar with the laws failing our society, and I've no logical reason to believe more of the same would help any. Please note my restraint on talking about modern day technology that is relatively affordable to the average American in which to make their own 3D printed weapons, and also the fact that despite certain gun control laws currently in place would do nothing to address the overwhelming number of these "high capacity" magazines and scary looking rifles that are currently in possession of millions of law abiding Americans. Enforcing laws on those two matters would be far easier said than done, hence more laws of the same would not be effective enough. That whole argument (meaning gun control argument) is nothing more than an emotionally-charged reaction to the issue, and you and I both know when emotions are allowed to take center stage logic and reasoning go out the ...
Don't say it doesn't work.
Alienbeing comments on May 28, 2022:
Common sense says if one cannot access a gun, one cannot use a gun. However that statement is simplistic because it ignores the fact that, unlike the U.K. or any other country, the USA has a Constitutional provision allowing gun ownership. Our Constitution can be amended, however that is a long ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 28, 2022:
Aside from that, the above meme only discussed mass school shootings and not just mass shootings in general, which even in recent times there have been mass shooting incidents in the UK- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_shooting It's deceptive to only focus on one area (only school shootings) while not taking everything into consideration, but then again what could we expect from those who are emotionally stunted?
I wonder why school shootings never (at least to the best of my knowledge) happened when I was in ...
SpikeTalon comments on May 27, 2022:
I grew up in the 1980s-90s, and I certainly didn't have to worry about being shot in school, and there were many guns in circulation back then. Hell, the entrance doors to my school weren't even locked, which says alot. You are right about your conclusion regarding the number of mentally ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 27, 2022:
@Ryo1 Hi Ryo, and no, was referring to a guy named Garban who chose to get personal with me after I provided evidence to the contrary of what he wanted to believe, and the other individual was someone on another site.
I wonder why school shootings never (at least to the best of my knowledge) happened when I was in ...
richiegtt comments on May 27, 2022:
I blame social media and the news media .These nut jobs do it partially for the notoriety that they receive from posting and even filming themselves .I say they should not publish photos and names of these outcasts because it gives them what they crave.
SpikeTalon replies on May 27, 2022:
You're right about that one, media does nothing to help the situation any.
I wonder why school shootings never (at least to the best of my knowledge) happened when I was in ...
Ryo1 comments on May 27, 2022:
Grownups burden children with their struggles. That's probably one of the reasons why so many young people suffer depression and anxiety. Let them have a decent childhood.
SpikeTalon replies on May 27, 2022:
That may be one reason, but addictions (whether that be drugs sex or alcohol) are also playing a huge role in the rising level of clinical depression and or mental illness. Afterall, once someone reaches a point where said addictions take over their lives and they hit rock bottom in the process, they conclude life is no longer worth living and also start to get ideas to drag other innocent people down with them.
The Texas elementary mass shooting was the 212th mass shooting in the U.
SpikeTalon comments on May 27, 2022:
No, that was the fourth mass shooting so far in 2022, a far cry from the 212 figure that propaganda sources keep pushing, because they conflate every instance of a shooting with a mass shooting when they are two different statistics. They also get school shootings and mass school shootings confused ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 27, 2022:
@Petter Mass shooting incidents are not unique to the US, and if it appears there are many such incidents occuring here keep in mind the US unlike most other countries respects the right of its citizens to own weapons similar to what their Government possesses, so it would be reasonable to conclude that with a high number of firearms present there's bound to be accidents or murders. Getting back to my original point, if one took the time to research this stuff one would find that the worst incidents of mass shootings occured in south Asia Europe and Africa, and not the US. Mainstream media outlets in the US have a vested interest in constantly pushing mass shooting incidents in the public's face, because nothing in this world sells good quite like the human emotion of fear, and fear helps to stir up propaganda which in turn is used to push personal agendas, which is what the gun control machine in the US is, a personal agenda. The November 2015 attacks in Paris France were truly insidious, and funny thing is France is far more strict with their gun ownership laws than the US is, yet France's pitiful laws did not protect them from crazed shooters. Again, while the US does see the highest number of children involved shooting incidents, the US' gun laws are unique to most other countries and per capita the US has the highest number of guns, so knowing that such incidents should be expected. The US also has a high number of cases of clinical depression and anxiety, along with high numbers of drug and alcohol addiction, and high incarceration level. All of which factor into why alot of these shootings are happening. America doesn't have a gun problem per se, but rather a problem with depression and out of control anger and addictions, which are leading too many people to a dead end in life. If those issues go unchanged, then nothing will improve where mass shootings are concerned, and criminals will continue ignoring the laws as they've been doing for some time now. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-history.html https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/05/25/andrew-follett-says-the-media-is-telling-you-two-major-lies-about-mass-shootings-and-gun-control/
The Brown Bess was the standard fire arm during writing of the second amendment.
SpikeTalon comments on May 26, 2022:
You are focusing on what was popular back in those days, and not all what actually existed in those times, which leaves out key details to your overall argument. The concept of repeating and multi shot weapons certainly existed back in the 1700s, and there's evidence to suggest that such weapons (or...
SpikeTalon replies on May 27, 2022:
@Garban Were they weak arguments, or did I merely say something that of which you did not like and or want to hear? I have a feeling it's the latter there... Again, you are focusing too much on the specific details/abilities of certain weapons and not on the actual concepts behind the arguments you are trying to make. As for cannons... yeah, guess you couldn't take them and line them up in a classroom and mow down a row of people in seconds... when you could just station the cannon a relative distance from the school building and fire the cannon into it and wipe it off the face of the Earth? As if that wasn't a possible scenario, since you want to be technical, and rather doubt in such a scenario anyone would have been able to figure out what was going on until it was too late. Besides, going by your own logic that such devices like guns have only one purpose and that is to kill, common sense would then say a cannon is equally destructive in the right hands. Just saying something is a weak argument because you disagreed or hated what the person told you doesn't automatically make it a weak argument, but I think you already know that though regardless of whether or not you wish to admit to such. As for your "Government boogie man" (apparently you can't even spell the word boogeyman right, and yet want me to take your claims seriously) comment, so... you think I'm wrong in believing that the Government (namely politicians) isn't being tyrannical now when it comes to reproductive rights for women? I'm just imagining that the Supreme Court is in the process of sending the country backwards where abortion procedures are concerned and that there is no credible threat against a woman's right to get an abortion, is that what you're saying? I sure hope not, because you would be very wrong about that, and eroding our civil rights pretty much would equate to tyranny. Whoa, slow down there ace, what do you mean by killing capacity that I feel entitled to? What evidence do you have to back up such an absurd albeit slanderous claim? I've been around firearms since a young kid and started using them and airguns in my teens, and not one time did I ever use said guns on a living being and or cause any physical harm to any. I enjoy target practice only with paper targets or pellet traps, and I'm careful whenever engaged in such so as to cause a ricochet accident, and I swear to that on my friggin balls. Target practice is a sport just like any other sport, and when it's the type I engage in it's non-violent, so your assumption there was grossly wrong. Also, what's this entitlement crap you were babbling on about? When did I ever say I felt entitled to anything? If I earn my money honestly, and I do, and I pay for the gun magazines myself minus any handouts, I ...
Do you criticize "Rethuglicans" ?
SpikeTalon comments on May 27, 2022:
This porcupine criticizes both Rethuglicans and Demorats, as I don't trust either of them.
SpikeTalon replies on May 27, 2022:
@FearlessFly While Haidt had a solid thesis there, what constitutes liberal or conservative in society may be a bit more complex than what he led on to. Whenever someone asks me if I'm liberal or conservative, I ask them to define those words first before I answer, and my request at times had baffled some. But I ask that though as there are at least a handful of categories in life that one could be either liberal or conservative on or even a mixture of the two (crossovers). What is it exactly we are either being liberty minded (openminded) on or attempting to conserve? Off the top of my head I could think of three such categories- economics, how one views our Constitution, and social based issues. The first two I'm fairly conservative on, as I believe in a reasonable budget and no new taxes etc, and believe the Bill of Rights should remain as it is. As for the third category, I'm decidely more liberal, and fully support issues like gay rights/abortion rights for women/decriminalizing recreational drugs and sex work/and keeping religion out of politics etc. Conceivably there could be more categories (foreign affairs?), but I think those are the main three. So with that in mind, what would you call someone like me? Although two out of the three I'm conservative on, still like to think that I'm mostly liberal and open-minded, in the classic sense anyways. Of course, here in the US there is a name for someone who is fiscally conservative while being socially liberal. It's not liberal, though pretty close to it. Said name is pretty much a curse word on this site (at least in my experience anyways) among the progressive crowd, a name that invokes alot of distrust and resentment and even disinformation from the progressives. I'm not going to say that name here, don't know if any hapless progressives will stumble across this post, and Odin forbid I wouldn't want to upset any of them so much that they get an aneurysm, lol.
Home intruders no match for well armed women.
Captain_Feelgood comments on May 25, 2022:
I wouldn't bother with Mr. NostraDumbass here Spike. He's obviously too mentally ill to have a rational discussion with. Hell, asking the simple question of what laws are acceptable or would do any good was obviously too much for him to handle. Otherwise he would have suggested some. You know when ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 26, 2022:
@NostraDumbass Wrong. Take a look at your original comment on this post below. I responded honestly to your question minus any insults, and your next reply resorted to an infantile comparison to a fictional television character. You started the horseshit and I ended it, and CaptainFeelgood only responded to your needless sarcasm. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself. Background checks are too flawed, and keep in mind that every adult in society starts out with a clean record, and someone seeking to obtain a weapon and harboring desires to harm others could all too easily fake their way through a background check. Also, nevermind the fact that criminals who either obtain their weapons via black markets or with the capability to make their own guns, wouldn't be affected by background checks, because you know... criminals don't care about the laws. But you had already thought about that one though, right? Waiting periods are another joke, yeah right, let's give them a few weeks to really dwell on their rage and resentment and calculate a thorough plan of mass destruction. Wait periods could possibly only delay the inevitable, and they are also flawed like background checks. Mandatory safety tests? A little vague there, mind going into a little more detail, you got my attention on that one, as personal safety is something I'm big on. A complete ban on automatic weapons? Are you totally frickin clueless? Fully automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership since 1986, would it kill you to actually research this stuff first before running your mouth off? Here- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_Owners%27_Protection_Act_of_1986 That aside, the ban on fully automatic weapons is also flawed for two reasons- first being that any such weapons made before 1986 would not be affected, and it would literally be impossible for the Government to track down every single owner of such a weapon, and second there's the issue of black markets. Same goes for illegal weapon mods, you can get such on the black market/street gangs. In fact, I recently heard that a well known online retailer (which will stay unnamed) is selling a switch for Glock pistols that could make them fully automatic. Again, so much for the laws... You're full of it on the mass shootings in Canada, here's one example and there certainly are plenty more- https://people.com/crime/canada-mass-shooting-16-people-killed/ Oh well, looks like Canada's gun control laws failed too, surprise surprise. The USA and Canada are two very different nations, they cannot be compared as you attempted to do due to factors like levels of depression among the citizens and addictions etc. What works for one country may not work for another, and the US has a staggering level of depression and suicide ...
Home intruders no match for well armed women.
Captain_Feelgood comments on May 25, 2022:
I wouldn't bother with Mr. NostraDumbass here Spike. He's obviously too mentally ill to have a rational discussion with. Hell, asking the simple question of what laws are acceptable or would do any good was obviously too much for him to handle. Otherwise he would have suggested some. You know when ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 25, 2022:
Not even sure why he wants to be in this group? If he stays he'll end up pretty miserable, but then again I suppose some folks are a glutton for punishment.
Home intruders no match for well armed women.
Captain_Feelgood comments on May 25, 2022:
I wouldn't bother with Mr. NostraDumbass here Spike. He's obviously too mentally ill to have a rational discussion with. Hell, asking the simple question of what laws are acceptable or would do any good was obviously too much for him to handle. Otherwise he would have suggested some. You know when ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 25, 2022:
@NostraDumbass Your reply pretty much validated his comment. Personally, it's not my goal to get personal with or insult anyone, but some folks leave me no choice as they cannot be reasoned with. The recent shooting in a Texas school plainly showed that the current laws in place have done nothing to deter violent thugs, yet those on the far-left are already babbling on about needing more of the same laws that have repeatedly failed to keep people safe. Those people would have me believe that private gun ownership is unnecessary and that all guns are bad, yet ironically enough it was someone with a gun (appears to have been a border patrol agent) who stopped the violent shooter putting an end to his murder spree. It wasn't Democrat-inspired laws that stopped the carnage, but rather a concerned citizen who was armed. Now imagine for a moment if at least one of those teachers were armed, and could have almost immediately start to return fire once the psycho teen started shooting at innocent kids? The bloodshed certainly could have been minimized. That's reality there, an armed citizen finally put an end to the murder spree, and if anyone denies that they would be in denial of reality, and those in denial of reality cannot be reasoned with.
Mass shooting deaths versus drug overdose deaths in the USA.
Pralina1 comments on May 25, 2022:
Drug OD , drugs in general , that’s a personal choice . U fuck w drugs , odds are it won’t end well , and u know it . Getting out of your house to go to school or anywhere and getting dead by an asshole w a gun , is a choice that someone else made for u . That someone who thinks that no gun ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 25, 2022:
Also, based on the statistics linked to above I think the mainstream media sources are preying on people's fears, these mass shooting incidents aren't as common as we're led to believe they are. I'm getting too old to be fearful of everywhere I go thinking maybe someone is waiting to kill me, certain individuals in society I think are getting a kick out of doing that sick crap to others. I grew up around guns, my father before me did, alot of my friends have, and yet not a single one of them or any of their family members ever had a mishap with a gun. In contrast, I've already lost two good childhood friends due to drug overdoses, and a handful of others who suffer with addiction and their lives went downhill because of such. I know the Republicans don't make good on their promises regarding drugs, but neither do the Democrats, yet Democrats want more laws regulating stuff when they should be focusing on reaching out to those who are suffering in silence from addiction and attached stigma. Get rid of stigma and labels, and the moods of people would improve, and crime and addictions would also probably go down.
Mass shooting deaths versus drug overdose deaths in the USA.
yvilletom comments on May 25, 2022:
Thanks, Spike, for this info. The columnar data stands out of course and almost immediately I saw that there were more mass shootings during the Trump presidency than in any other four-year period. IMO, besides mass shootings and drug overdose deaths, violence toward children and the lawless ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 25, 2022:
I'm just as concerned as the next gun control fanatic is, it's just that I question their proposed solutions to the problem is all. More laws won't solve the problem. I too noticed the rise in such incidents under Trump. On the last part of your comment, sadly I have to agree with you, trying to rise above our emotions, all of us that is, may be asking too much. Curious times we live in...
Mass shooting deaths versus drug overdose deaths in the USA.
Pralina1 comments on May 25, 2022:
Drug OD , drugs in general , that’s a personal choice . U fuck w drugs , odds are it won’t end well , and u know it . Getting out of your house to go to school or anywhere and getting dead by an asshole w a gun , is a choice that someone else made for u . That someone who thinks that no gun ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 25, 2022:
Drugs aren't just a personal choice, as many times when someone gets high they act out against others and sometimes really violently, not to mention all the buzzed driving accidents that result in death. Both drug addictions and thugs with guns concern me, and both are highly regulated and time and time again people get high and negatively impact others and criminals still get their hands on guns in which to commit crimes, yet the laws haven't helped much so far. What makes us think more of the same is going to make a difference? What about doing something about depression and bullying, both of which are huge problems in this country? We've become a miserable and depressed nation with numerous addictions, if that doesn't change then I fear these random shootings won't go away anytime soon.
Home intruders no match for well armed women.
NostraDumbass comments on May 24, 2022:
What are the odds of survival for elementary school children when confronted with a well-armed teenage psychopath in Uvalde, Texas?
SpikeTalon replies on May 25, 2022:
@NostraDumbass What's an acceptable law(s) to you? We've got many gun control laws currently on the books in virtually every state, and yet that hasn't deterred criminals from carrying out acts of violence. That tells me more laws aren't the solution. As for your body count question, that depends upon when both sides of that argument actually make a move to address the real problem, with the real problem being why are these people who are committing these murders so violent and depressed? Until we make a move to address that issue, I doubt anything will change for the better, those sort of crimes will continue happening and as usual the left will get emotional and call for more laws while the other side will be pushed to go on the defensive, and nothing will improve. People are the problem, it needs to be addressed why there are so many violent prone and depressed individuals, and once we face that head on and find a solution I'm tellin' you the perceived problem with "gun violence" will largely subside.
Home intruders no match for well armed women.
NostraDumbass comments on May 24, 2022:
What are the odds of survival for elementary school children when confronted with a well-armed teenage psychopath in Uvalde, Texas?
SpikeTalon replies on May 24, 2022:
@NostraDumbass Where did I say anywhere about ever collecting the guns afterwards? You confuse me with someone who favors more laws of the same that continue to fail to keep people safe, and your Archie Bunker equation would be better suited to one of those authoritarian gun control laws fanatics. Now... I have but one question for you and I ask this in earnest as it's never my goal to make fun of people, but are you people really that naive and or stupid? Again, I ask such in earnest because your logic is astounding and contradicts reality. Look at and compare the situation I linked to above alongside the recent shooting you pointed out, and see how different the outcomes were. The former resulted in an act of self defense which preserved the life(s) of the potential victim, whilst the latter which occured in a so-called gun free zone resulted in the offender getting to kill multiple individuals. Yeah, good guys/ladies with guns do stop criminals who are armed, there are numerous examples out there of armed citizens saving the day, and equally many stories of these gun free zones that resulted in bloodshed. That's reality, the reality you wish to deny for peculiar reasons. You know how radical and asinine those anti-abortion fanatics are? Good, glad you do... because the gun control legislation fanatics are also asinine in their approach to the matter, and both of those radical mentalities are a by-product of emotionally charged knee-jerk reactions, and I want nothing to do with that authoritarian nonsense. More laws aren't the answer.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis named to Times ‘100 most influential people’ list- ...
richiegtt comments on May 24, 2022:
I like this guy and what he advocates.
SpikeTalon replies on May 24, 2022:
I like him more so than Trump.
Home intruders no match for well armed women.
NostraDumbass comments on May 24, 2022:
What are the odds of survival for elementary school children when confronted with a well-armed teenage psychopath in Uvalde, Texas?
SpikeTalon replies on May 24, 2022:
Would have been much higher had someone there had been armed, but "no weapons allowed" zones continue getting people killed, because criminals don't care about gun control legislation.
MyPillow Guy Mike Lindell Suggests SCOTUS Roe v Wade Leak Was Done to Sabotage Him Specifically
richiegtt comments on May 8, 2022:
He is full of crap just like the overpriced pillows
SpikeTalon replies on May 24, 2022:
@richiegtt I agree Rich, Lindell is a damn crook and a jerk.
Beware of how you are being tracked via your online presence.
Pralina1 comments on May 24, 2022:
Wtf
SpikeTalon replies on May 24, 2022:
That was my initial thought too, a few years back when I first heard about how some radical anti-abortion folks were manipulating location data of women entering clinics like Planned Parenthood, and using such to deliver targeted advertising to said women in order to try to convince them to not go through with an abortion, while the women were waiting inside the clinics no less. Talk about intrusive and harassing. All pro-choice advocates need to be aware of such tactics, as they are becoming popular yet again, and probably more so if Roe gets overturned. Such intrusive tactics could potentially be the worst thing pro-choice activists are facing, and I suspect it's only about to get worse still...
Little break w my work daughters at Asheville .
SpikeTalon comments on May 22, 2022:
Looks like a scenic place, cool. We all need to cut loose every now and then. Is that you by that pond?
SpikeTalon replies on May 23, 2022:
@silverotter11 I'd agree, based on what I can see on my end.
Little break w my work daughters at Asheville .
SpikeTalon comments on May 22, 2022:
Looks like a scenic place, cool. We all need to cut loose every now and then. Is that you by that pond?
SpikeTalon replies on May 22, 2022:
@Pralina1 On my end the image is small (on mobile), so can't see the face well. I asked because from what I can see it looked like someone in their 30s, maybe one of your friends? So if that's you, don't fret, you hardly looked like a troll to me.
"Naturally being a migrant wanting to outdo American bullying & anarchic behaviour it follows that ...
SpikeTalon comments on May 19, 2022:
When I was still relatively new to the site, multiple sock puppet accounts were harassing me via private messenger almost daily, and in the end Admin could do very little to deter such. He could ban IP addresses, but that's no guarantee an individual can't come back on another account using a VPN ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 19, 2022:
@skado Nil, Mister Skado, not a thing in months now. I take it he's been busy with his other side projects (working on starting similar sites/apps), which is kind of a bummer for the rest of us.
Elon Musk states he will now vote Republican .
LucyLoohoo comments on May 19, 2022:
Saying that the Democrats are ''the party of division and hate'' is like saying that Xtians are all just like Jesus.
SpikeTalon replies on May 19, 2022:
So let's see... the Democrats are the ones who are quick to label anyone as a fascist or white supremacist for merely disagreeing with progressive politics. So much for Biden's "unity", all the Dems do these days is cut-up the opposing viewpoints. The Dems think illegal aliens are wonderful, while fiercely condemning those actually born in the US who are trying to improve things in society and who question poor foreign policies. Please note my restraint on all the racebaiting from the left, but I will say again so much for "unity".
The rage mob comes for a New York gun store- [bearingarms.com]
p-nullifidian comments on May 17, 2022:
I agree completely that law abiding businesses and individuals should not be punished, whether it is by the mob or by the state apparatus, for conducting lawful business. Just as I don’t support the behavior of anti-abortionists who intimidate and threaten patients and their doctors outside ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 17, 2022:
Well said and good comparison, I wholeheartedly agree.
Gun Owners of America (GOA) released a statement in response to the shooting in Buffalo, New York ...
puff comments on May 16, 2022:
Those gun policies are not radical, they are common sense. How much is spent on Homeland security, CIA, NSA, FBI policing and all the surveillance stuff Snowden talked about? This guy was known. At least we get targeted ads online. Value for money?
SpikeTalon replies on May 16, 2022:
They were worthless, and sure didn't stop any gun-involved crimes from happening. The spending on Homeland Security is also largely a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Guns aren't the problem, in this case it was the wonderful FBI who apparently screwed up by not ...
p-nullifidian comments on May 16, 2022:
This is an excellent point. Guns aren't the problem, but access to them by clearly threatening and likely unhinged individuals most certainly is. Almost every mass shooter was found to have openly discussed his (yes, not very many females in this dubious crowd) desires, plans or intentions with...
SpikeTalon replies on May 16, 2022:
Such wouldn't be a problem if the authorities did their jobs, as people like that shooter are a clear detriment to society and should be kept away from the rest of civilized society. I also agree that the NRA should acknowledge that some people are a clear danger, and either belong in jail or a mental institution. Once you make threats of violence against another individual you relinquish your rights, and probably belong in jail.
Bwaaaahahahahahahaha... Where are all the feminist these days?
Pralina1 comments on Mar 18, 2022:
What is exactly the problem ? That are different than the “ norm “, or that they have the desire to claim life as they feel it? Do u think these folks just woke up one day and decided to claim different gender just for shit and giggles ? Do u think is easy for them to admit to parents , ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 15, 2022:
What's the problem you ask??? Men pretending to be women and then in some cases proceed to violently assault women, is the problem. Rape is one of the most vile crimes out there, and a big reason why I hate the bible due to its many references to rape. Yes trans individuals do deserve the same rights as the rest of us and to be treated kindly, but your rights end when you use your freedom to impede on another's freedoms. Over a century of fighting for equal rights for women, has now hit a slight roadblock regarding the issue with trans rights, all of a sudden women's rights have been thrown under the bus more in favor of the latter's rights. At least in some examples women's rights had to have been circumvented in order to grant the other's rights, and that's what some of us have a problem with. The following article is from a known leftwing organization (Women's Liberation Front, WOLF), and I agree with their conclusion on the matter as they raised a valid concern for all women in such a situation. Am I to believe WOLF is wrong about that, as they are left-leaning in their political/social views? Of course, incidents like that often are not covered by most mainstream media sources, and I suspect the general public isn't aware of just how bad incidents like that are gradually becoming.- https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/two-nj-womens-prison-inmates-impregnated-by-male-criminal
Trevor Strnad Of The Black Dahlia Murder Has Passed Away - Theprp.com
MichelleGar1 comments on May 11, 2022:
😔
SpikeTalon replies on May 12, 2022:
@MichelleGar1 Well that sucks. Can't say I blame her much though.
Trevor Strnad Of The Black Dahlia Murder Has Passed Away - Theprp.com
MichelleGar1 comments on May 11, 2022:
😔
SpikeTalon replies on May 12, 2022:
What happened to Altschmerz, she disappeared?!
Having just received notification that @Alienbeing has tagged me I went to read his comment.
skado comments on May 12, 2022:
There is no God… I mean, Admin. 😃
SpikeTalon replies on May 12, 2022:
There is no god, only Zuul (well, and also Sigourney Weaver)...
Gotta love it when some far-left anti-gun rights fanatic states that all gun owners are domestic ...
p-nullifidian comments on May 11, 2022:
"The Gun Lobby’s interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime. The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies – the militia ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 11, 2022:
@p-nullifidian One last thing... Getting back to the original point for this post, you know how the pro-choice people resent being called baby killers (rightly so by the way)? Well, I resent being labeled a terrorist simply because I own weapons and support the 2A, which in turn prompted me to do this post. I did nothing terroristic in nature, just like the pro-choice people are surely not baby killers. Even though such false accusations labeling me and fellow 2A supporters as such is infuriating at times, I attempted to take a more lighthearted approach (post above referencing characters from a video game) as opposed to getting nasty, which wouldn't be too hard to do given the circumstances.
Gotta love it when some far-left anti-gun rights fanatic states that all gun owners are domestic ...
p-nullifidian comments on May 11, 2022:
"The Gun Lobby’s interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime. The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies – the militia ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 11, 2022:
@p-nullifidian I don't think that constitutes fraud when it specifically says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, it did not specifically state that only militias shall have that right. This is the whole 2A: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” In other words, a militia(s) was seen as necessary in order to help maintain security, while the right for individual citizens to possess arms shall not be denied. Pay extra close attention to the last part of the 2A there, and I defy anyone to try to claim otherwise. From History.com- https://www.history.com/topics/united-states-constitution/2nd-amendment This part in particular: "During the Revolutionary War era, “militia” referred to groups of men who banded together to protect their communities, towns, colonies and eventually states, once the United States declared its independence from Great Britain in 1776 Many people in America at the time believed governments used soldiers to oppress the people, and thought the federal government should only be allowed to raise armies (with full-time, paid soldiers) when facing foreign adversaries. For all other purposes, they believed, it should turn to part-time militias, or ordinary civilians using their own weapons." The definition back then of a militia (at the time the 2A was conceived) meant groups of men who banded together for the security of their communities, and not state-regulated. That was their intention afterall, because the Founders were well aware of the fact that over time governments can and have grown corrupt resulting in loss of individual liberties of the citizens said governments were supposed to be serving, tyranny of the masses. That was true back in those days and is still a concern nowadays. I have now been on both sides of the gun rights debate, and settled on my current position on the matter when it became clear to me that my arguments for gun control measures lacked merit (and lacked reasoning), and that I was wrong for believing in such. When the 2A itself boldly states the right of the people (emphasis on the word people, not states) to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, I cannot be in denial that key part of the 2A indeed exists, regardless of who else may not like such. Also keep in mind, that any government (federal level or state) that has the power to limit what law-abiding citizens can or cannot own can also conceivably deny you of individual rights that you vehemently support (think reproductive rights etc), and knowing such is one of the reasons why I can't get behind gun control legislation. Don't believe me? Look at what's happening to women's reproductive ...
From factchecker Snopes.
FearlessFly comments on May 10, 2022:
. . . I advocate accurate use of words : https://ncse.ngo/theory-and-fact
SpikeTalon replies on May 10, 2022:
Same here. Based on some of my observations over the years though, when discussing what could be considered controversial topics people's emotions tend to run high and in the process rational level-headed reasoning goes out the door.
From factchecker Snopes.
yvilletom comments on May 10, 2022:
Most interesting. WARNING! Metaphors ahead. Will middle Americans save America from leftist Americans and from rightist Americans?
SpikeTalon replies on May 10, 2022:
Hhmm, good question.
From factchecker Snopes.
Alienbeing comments on May 10, 2022:
It appears that at the least, the Justices were evasive when answering many questions.
SpikeTalon replies on May 10, 2022:
No doubt as to the evasive part, but still not outright lying as some had promoted though, not of which any evidence that I've come across anyways. On a side note, Snopes is generally known to lean more to the left, and it's interesting albeit concerning to sit back and watch some of those on the far-left suggest somehow Snopes was wrong on that, despite the sources that were linked to, simply because Snopes may have said something that of which they did not want to hear. Of course, such folks will vehemently deny said evidence in favor of believing whatever narrative it is they wish to cheer on. Peculiar times we live in...
😣😣 😠😠 😖😖 [youtu.be]
SpikeTalon comments on May 9, 2022:
Whilst it's certainly true that there are plenty of the rapey type religious men out there protesting against abortion rights, the video above from TYT is missing context. Apparently some pro choice protesters were taunting a few of the anti abortion dudes including the guy featured in the above ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 10, 2022:
@SeaGreenEyez Seem is the keyword there, you assumed things, and I never said I was without any sort of biases, as I'm known to criticize both political extremes. Reality and facts are not biased, and they care not about your opinions, and based on actual evidence I've seen presented by both sides regarding the incident you linked to above, some details were omitted, and when someone misrepresents something whether intentionally or not it only hurts their cause. Yeah... I did Google first on the topic before you even posted to this group, which is how I knew more of the story than you did in the first place. You seriously should take your own advice on that one. Did I ever ask for any lengthy dissertations? I started this group for others to exchange info and news regarding pro choice matters, but anything shared should at least be accurate, because anything less could only serve to negate our cause. No, this exchange wasn't useless, I pointed out more details to that story that of which you didn't want to hear, and my initial comment was polite and structured and I certainly didn't get personal with you. Since you felt it necessary to get personal with someone who is on your side regarding the topic for this group, based on your previous reply do you see the irony in your comments? Human beings may have biases, but that doesn't mean you can't have any value in truth and reality itself, they are two different things. I value the truth (reality) regardless of any biases or other shortcomings I may have, and strive to say things accurately, as should anyone who cares about society as a whole. If you think it fine to be biased like that despite evidence to the contrary of what you wish to believe to be true, then you should have no complaints then when the opposing view does the same thing in return, do unto others... Again, I don't care what you post in this group, just so what you post is accurate and not misrepresented in any way, and that's not asking much.
Sitting in bed w coffee and boys and contemplating my stupidity along w other things .
SpikeTalon comments on May 6, 2022:
Am I understanding this correctly, you now have reason to be concerned about what Rita and her apparently scuzbag boyfriend might be trying to dig-up on you information and personal details wise? Anything specific, just bank accounts etc or really bad stuff like cyber attacks? If you don't wish to ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 10, 2022:
@Pralina1 Hey, what happened to Altschmerz?? She disappeared from the site.
😣😣 😠😠 😖😖 [youtu.be]
SpikeTalon comments on May 9, 2022:
Whilst it's certainly true that there are plenty of the rapey type religious men out there protesting against abortion rights, the video above from TYT is missing context. Apparently some pro choice protesters were taunting a few of the anti abortion dudes including the guy featured in the above ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 9, 2022:
@SeaGreenEyez I get what you're saying, but bias of any kind is hardly a beneficial thing for society, as biased reporting creates propaganda and misinformation.
This scuzbag is backing Vladimir Putin and his criminal regime, and Parker is a known ...
p-nullifidian comments on May 9, 2022:
Well said! There are even a few who post on this site who would likely support this crackpot Parker, claiming that Putin was given no other choice than to invade Ukraine. Either the Nazi problem, or the threat of Ukraine joining NATO, or the problem of Ukrainian nationalists, or the need to ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 9, 2022:
I know what you mean, have also encountered said individuals on this site who put Putin on a pedestal, and the points you mentioned above are very true and constitute reality regardless if the Putin supporters wish to conveniently ignore such.
One argument I've often heard from the anti-abortion crowd is that if one is pro-choice regarding ...
puff comments on May 9, 2022:
Lol this is quickly becoming my favourite group. To be antimandate ie pro consent/ choice, does not mean you are antivax either. "Your rights and choices are just that. Yours"
SpikeTalon replies on May 9, 2022:
I agree, those who pass on getting a particular vaccine are not automatically anti-vax as some would suggest.
Sitting in bed w coffee and boys and contemplating my stupidity along w other things .
SpikeTalon comments on May 6, 2022:
Am I understanding this correctly, you now have reason to be concerned about what Rita and her apparently scuzbag boyfriend might be trying to dig-up on you information and personal details wise? Anything specific, just bank accounts etc or really bad stuff like cyber attacks? If you don't wish to ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 9, 2022:
@Pralina1 "Pro Choice/Abortion Rights Group"
Sitting in bed w coffee and boys and contemplating my stupidity along w other things .
SpikeTalon comments on May 6, 2022:
Am I understanding this correctly, you now have reason to be concerned about what Rita and her apparently scuzbag boyfriend might be trying to dig-up on you information and personal details wise? Anything specific, just bank accounts etc or really bad stuff like cyber attacks? If you don't wish to ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 8, 2022:
@Pralina1 I just started a pro choice group on here, some misinformation campaigns from radical evangelicals prompted me to create such a group, and also from the looks of it there is no similar group on here yet, somewhat surprisingly.
Sitting in bed w coffee and boys and contemplating my stupidity along w other things .
SpikeTalon comments on May 6, 2022:
Am I understanding this correctly, you now have reason to be concerned about what Rita and her apparently scuzbag boyfriend might be trying to dig-up on you information and personal details wise? Anything specific, just bank accounts etc or really bad stuff like cyber attacks? If you don't wish to ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 7, 2022:
@Pralina1 Please pass this around to any pro choice individuals you may know- https://www.thecut.com/article/donate-abortion-fund-roe-v-wade-how-to-help.html Need to get the word out.
The demonstrators in front of the Supreme illustrate ignorance.
Captain_Feelgood comments on May 5, 2022:
Agreed... But I guess they still have the right to peacefully demonstrate, even if doing so just demonstrates what fools they are. You just got to live with it I guess. 😒
SpikeTalon replies on May 5, 2022:
I concur, it is their right to peacefully protest regardless of what my personal opinion may be.
I am a true right-to-lifer who holds that abortions need to be safe, legal, rare, and we need ...
KKGator comments on May 3, 2022:
I will never understand why anyone thinks they should have any right to weigh in on any woman's right to do with her own body as she sees fit. It's no one's business but her own.
SpikeTalon replies on May 5, 2022:
@KKGator Please share this with any pro-choice women you know- https://www.thecut.com/article/donate-abortion-fund-roe-v-wade-how-to-help.html
Who remembers their first sweetheart?
Pralina1 comments on May 3, 2022:
Oh I do 🙄🙁 He couldn’t care less that I am alive 😂 I was 16 and an ugly duck , a skinny dork , a bunch of black hair like a witch 🙄, and very shy . The only reason I was ever invited to anything it was bcz we had money , we , meaning my dad . He was great looking , popular , and he...
SpikeTalon replies on May 4, 2022:
Blondes are evil!!
Life imitates art
SpikeTalon comments on May 2, 2022:
I think both RNC & DNC are evil, and have a habit complaining about social media. Meowth for President!
SpikeTalon replies on May 2, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay Buu has better abilities/superpowers, so good pick there.
I can't keep track of everything/ everyone around here @ Agnostic.
p-nullifidian comments on Apr 30, 2022:
I have not engaged with @Triphid directly, but I have seen a recent uptick in ‘unhinged’ vitriol over issues that are not directly related to agnosticism or a belief in a deity. Topics like the war in Ukraine, domestic blue vs. red politics and idiotic (if not offensive) memes that should ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 2, 2022:
At times, this site feels like a fringe Facebook platform, alot of peculiar topics being posted about. On the public feeds I try to keep my posts lighthearted. Alas, as it's often been said, all good things come to an end eventually, and think this site is past its "golden days".
I can't keep track of everything/ everyone around here @ Agnostic.
MyTVC15 comments on May 1, 2022:
I have been keeping a low profile for weeks because of him. I was finding that there was no comment that I could write without him having something negative to say about it. It was really hurtful because he and I actually started out as "friends", I thought. I also felt that his constant complaints ...
SpikeTalon replies on May 2, 2022:
@MyTVC15 That's one of the reasons why I never cared much for social media, people you meet online appear friendly at first and then just like that out of the blue they freak out on you, and start gossiping about or harass you.
I can't keep track of everything/ everyone around here @ Agnostic.
snytiger6 comments on May 1, 2022:
Don't remember encountering that person. But I tend to ignore outright attacks. If a person can't ley out a logical argument bu instead just insults and attacks, then I tend to think they have an indefensible position. It is almost always the far right people who do this.
SpikeTalon replies on May 2, 2022:
Both the far left and far right are known to go on the offense like that, and if I'm not mistaken Triphid leans more to the left. While I've had some heated arguments on here between right-leaning members, none of that could compare to what I've dealt with from some of the resident left-leaning folks on this site. Back then it wasn't uncommon for me to receive hate messages daily, and things got really bad when some members started creating sock puppet accounts just to send me harassing messages. Admin could do very little about it, and shortly after that's when I had paused my account for over a year before deciding to give it a try again. Both political extremes can be vicious.
Will Smith's 'apology' at the Oscars was a faith-based defense of bad behavior
KKGator comments on Mar 28, 2022:
I've lost any respect I may have had for Will Smith. His apology was total bullshit. Chris Rock is a comedian. Sometimes, jokes don't land. There was no justification for WS to respond with violence. Further, they can ALL shove their thanks to a non-existent deity.
SpikeTalon replies on Apr 22, 2022:
The only thing now that Smith is truly sorry for is all the negative attention he is/has received, and rightly so, he deserves every bit of negativity that may come his way.
The ground here isn't very fertile for this kind of meme but I couldn't help instantly thinking ...
SpikeTalon comments on Apr 19, 2022:
No shortage of members on this site who are part of the church of the perpetually offended. They may not appreciate the meme above, but I do.
SpikeTalon replies on Apr 19, 2022:
@yvilletom I suspect the former has higher membership.
Russian attack aircraft with nuclear weapons on board violate Swedish air space as Sweden mulls NATO...
FearlessFly comments on Mar 31, 2022:
I don't think both sources ( exactly) "said the same thing". IMO, words matter. MBFC is not the only independent fact checker. Do you find others that could say redstate is reliable/credible ? I don't encounter folks on this site 'complaining' about 'left' sources. I concede I'm an outlier ...
SpikeTalon replies on Mar 31, 2022:
Also, just because a source gets considered questionable or not reliable by independent fact checkers, does not necessarily mean said sources are always lying or fabricating claims. If a source gets labeled questionable, that means more fact checking than usual might be required first before believing any claims made.
Russian attack aircraft with nuclear weapons on board violate Swedish air space as Sweden mulls NATO...
FearlessFly comments on Mar 31, 2022:
I don't think both sources ( exactly) "said the same thing". IMO, words matter. MBFC is not the only independent fact checker. Do you find others that could say redstate is reliable/credible ? I don't encounter folks on this site 'complaining' about 'left' sources. I concede I'm an outlier ...
SpikeTalon replies on Mar 31, 2022:
I'm not saying I think RedState is a wonderful source, they aren't, but it appears what they had to say on that matter is fairly accurate. Most sources these days have their own choice wording they use, I focus more on if they are or not generally saying the same thing when reporting. All Sides is another fact checker, and they give pretty much the same rating as Media Bias Fact Check, which surprises me not. Regarding the original topic for this post, it does appear legit that Russian aircraft with nuclear weaponry aboard violated Swedish airspace, whether it was or was not a mistake on the Russian's part there remains hazy at this point, but the general headline appears to be accurate. Well of course not, this site predominantly leans more to the left, and if one's preference happens to lean more left then most likely they won't be quick to dismiss sources that they believe are in their corner to begin with. When I mentioned about both sides complaining regardless of source I link to, please keep in mind I am active on sites that are almost exclusively either left or right-leaning and hardly anything in between the two extremes. So while that may not be the case on this site (complaining about left sources on this site), it is that way for me on some other sites, and oddly enough some so-called leftwingers even complaining about such sources.
Russian attack aircraft with nuclear weapons on board violate Swedish air space as Sweden mulls NATO...
FearlessFly comments on Mar 31, 2022:
There are no shortage of sources for this story. IMO, choice of source(s) makes a difference wrt CT. YOUR OP choice kinda sucks, not just about 'bias', but credibility (failed fact checks).
SpikeTalon replies on Mar 31, 2022:
Not arguing that, but it was the first source I came across that reported on that incident, and decided to share it here once I saw other sources saying the same thing, but guess I probably should have linked to one of those other sources. On a side note, so long as I could confirm sources from both the left and right are saying the same thing on any given topic, I'm inclined to think there must be some truth there then and I'm not too picky on what source I end up linking to at that point. Besides, regardless of the leanings of the source I link to, someone is either bound to complain that my source is either too left or too right to be trusted, which after a while feels like a lost cause.
Russian attack aircraft with nuclear weapons on board violate Swedish air space as Sweden mulls NATO...
FearlessFly comments on Mar 31, 2022:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/red-state/
SpikeTalon replies on Mar 31, 2022:
Here's a known left-leaning source saying the same thing... https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-warplanes-violated-swedish-airspace-26596381 https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-star/
Love letter from a passionate and persistent admirer…
SpikeTalon comments on Mar 28, 2022:
Skado you awful awful man, how dare you approach someone like that with logic and reasoning? Joking aside, wasn't he the one in the Senate group recently complaining about one of his posts (which contained porn from what I heard) getting deleted without warning? Small wonder why he gets posts and...
SpikeTalon replies on Mar 28, 2022:
@skado And not a skilled piece of work at that.
I hate when people try to make the second amendment about hunting or about it not meaning modern ...
p-nullifidian comments on Mar 26, 2022:
Of course it’s not about those things; it’s about the necessity of membership in a well-regulated militia. 😉 “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
SpikeTalon replies on Mar 28, 2022:
@p-nullifidian Where does it specify that?
I hate when people try to make the second amendment about hunting or about it not meaning modern ...
p-nullifidian comments on Mar 26, 2022:
Of course it’s not about those things; it’s about the necessity of membership in a well-regulated militia. 😉 “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
SpikeTalon replies on Mar 27, 2022:
The second part matters just as much as the first part does (if not more so), and the second part clearly states the right of the people (note it says people and not militias) to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The first part says a regulated militia is necessary to maintain the integrity of a free state (our Military), while the second part secures the right for each citizen to own arms. Curious how some just focus on the first part whilst totally ignoring the second part. The Amendment as a whole is fairly clear to me.

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