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Ive been thinking that on the weekends my daughter is at her Dad's I've been acting like a hermit.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 24, 2021:

For some people like us, UU churches are great, to others, they are a disappointment. My experience has been mixed. While both UU churches I attended were very secular and humanistic in their content, one was very classist, cliquish and snobby, while the other was fairly welcoming and open to most ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 24, 2021:

@Organist1 You are correct. Unitarians, are much like Christians or Catholics, same human nature and personalities, just without the religious belief.

Just joined a dating group on fb.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 24, 2021:

Welcome to my world, and no, your experience and the beatdown on one's self esteem, unless one is above average looking or better, is typical. And now imagine how much worse it is when you live in the traditional-minded Midwest, where the men have to do almost all the pursuing and make the first ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 24, 2021:

@kraseyk Like you, I also hate country music. But here in Iowa, it is so loved and almost treated as sacred, that if you say you hate it or even dislike it, it's as if you had better whisper it, lest you come off as some sort of nut or criminal. Between that and their worship of Elvis Presley as some sort of god or messiah, people around here are pretty strange, in my mind. In Iowa, more like about half the pop. are Trumpers.

Google Voice and you.

Lauren comments on Oct 23, 2021:

I've had a Google Voice number for years and I like it a lot. I started because I wanted a business number I could give out without ending up on everyone's call list. The fact that it can forward calls to my landline and mobile number (and other places), as well as text from that number, makes it ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 23, 2021:

I have had a couple recent women from Match refuse to do a video chat and when they did, I just accepted their position and settled for a phone call or proceeding to meet in person, as both of them lived in my local area. I think that some women simply don't like video chats because they are somewhat insecure about their looks and don't want to go to the trouble of getting all slicked up with makeup, etc. or dressing up just for a video chat, or maybe they just feel more comfortable with the man seeing them live the first time in person, rather than on video. Regardless, I just accept their choice and move forward as fast as possible to the first in person meeting, as I have learned to not put up with someone wanting a long messaging process, and delaying the inevitable moment of truth, when you meet in person and find out if there is or isn't mutual chemistry or not.

Is online dating addictive?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 15, 2021:

I have been on Match actively for about three years now, and I can see how it might be addictive for some folks, as far as the thrill or drama of the emotional rollercoaster it provides for their life, and also the constant ego strokes they may get if they are making lots of connections with people ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 22, 2021:

@HeAdAkE And what are you really trying to say, besides terse snark, man?

All I’m Offering Is The Truth | Philosophy of the Matrix

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 21, 2021:

I feel that most people do not want the truth and resist it, mostly out of fear. They want the comfort of the familiar. I am not someone who eagerly embraces change, but I have always wanted to hear and know the truth, no matter how ugly or disturbing. Guess that makes me a bit of a paradox.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 21, 2021:

@rainmanjr That's really all we can ask of each other.

I hear "some" females say it all of the time: "You can't have male friends if you're in a ...

JonnaBononna comments on Oct 19, 2021:

I think there are men and women both who just think men and women cannot be platonic friends. It's ridiculous, really.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 20, 2021:

@GoodMan I think you meant thanks for sharing. You're welcome, GM.

I hear "some" females say it all of the time: "You can't have male friends if you're in a ...

JonnaBononna comments on Oct 19, 2021:

I think there are men and women both who just think men and women cannot be platonic friends. It's ridiculous, really.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 20, 2021:

@GoodMan Constant rejection is very hard on the ego and self esteem, even for people who are healthy on both of those counts, which is why many people just leave dating sites after a short time, giving up on finding a partner and choosing to preserve their mental health, esp. from depression.

I think she's right.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2021:

As a three year veteran of Match, with more rejection logged by now than I can even count, there is a lot of truth in the cartoon, even tho my friends say I am as loyal and faithful as the family dog. And if that weren't enough, I am one for one on successful LTRs and just the one marriage, which is...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 20, 2021:

@Scooter65 That sounds a hell of a lot like most of Iowa, both states are Midwest, full of hicks, rednecks and farmer types, prime breeding ground for Trumper types...

I think she's right.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2021:

As a three year veteran of Match, with more rejection logged by now than I can even count, there is a lot of truth in the cartoon, even tho my friends say I am as loyal and faithful as the family dog. And if that weren't enough, I am one for one on successful LTRs and just the one marriage, which is...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 20, 2021:

@Scooter65 Can't. All my friends live here, with the exception of my best friend in KC, and they are my whole emotional support system. Leaving Iowa for a better dating pool would be like setting myself up for emotional collapse or suicide, followed, probably, by the real thing.... BTW, I'm guessing that your part of Indiana isn't much better than my local dating pool?

While you're agnostic/atheist, if someone religious shares, say, the same political views as you, ...

Charles1971 comments on Oct 19, 2021:

Certainly. I find that most people believe at least some little bit (or a lot) of something stupid... religion, GMOs are evil, candy corn is good, country music doesn't suck, etc. Putting aside ones differences.. as long as they aren't too extreme... for the common good is certainly reasonable. ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 20, 2021:

@BufftonBeotch Don't get me started on how many country singers, even tho they are supposedly pros, sing with Auto-Tune running at their concerts and in the recording studio. People who can't even sing on pitch, making big money because they are cute or have the right image. I have heard Auto -Tune used at a live concert by an amateur local band, and the voice did not even sound human.

I hear "some" females say it all of the time: "You can't have male friends if you're in a ...

JonnaBononna comments on Oct 19, 2021:

I think there are men and women both who just think men and women cannot be platonic friends. It's ridiculous, really.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 20, 2021:

@GoodMan Tell me about it, man. I constantly see women's profiles on Match where they say one thing about themselves in their profile essay, and then later, during the messaging or after meeting them in person or phone chatting, the profile statements about themselves turn out to be contradictory. Whether it is intentional or not, conscious or not, to me it smacks of false advertising or misleading information, and I am fed up with a steady diet of it. My biggest pet peeve is women who have very firm dealbreakers on things like religion, drinking habits, kids situation, or political affiliation, either in which category fits them or in what they are looking for in a partner, but they hold back or fail to think thru those things and either conceal or leave them out of their profile. So, as a result, schmucks like me innocently reach out to message them thinking we might be compatible and then get the inevitable message from them saying, "Thanks but no thanks, etc.", due to a dealbreaker that was never included in their profile. To which, I always suggest to them that they revise their profile and add that dealbreaker very clearly in it, for both their sake, so they don't get interest and messages from incompatible men, and as a courtesy to guys like me that don't enjoy wasting our time and interest, as well as added disappointment of messaging women that seem compatible, but aren't. And yet, believe it or not, some of these women resent, and get upset at me, when I tell them they should revise their profiles and make the dealbreakers clear in them. Go figure, I guess they are taking a cue from the asshole guys they hate who deliberately do false advertising, by using lies in their profile as well as outdated photos, etc. It appears that some of both genders see online dating profiles as merely a form of advertising, where anything goes and it can all be justified as harmless fibs to get the result they want.

I hear "some" females say it all of the time: "You can't have male friends if you're in a ...

Scooter65 comments on Oct 19, 2021:

I have many more male friends than female friends so I think what you're talking about is an individual thing. Then again, maybe some women are conditioned to think they can't be friends with men.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 20, 2021:

Where I live, in traditional, conservative, backward, Iowa, it appears that both genders are conditioned early on to believe they can't have lasting platonic relationships with the opposite sex, and thus, it doesn't happen very often among straight women and men.

While you're agnostic/atheist, if someone religious shares, say, the same political views as you, ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2021:

Of course, politics makes strange bedfellows, as they say, and am always glad to make temporary or lasting alliances with religious folks on particular issues, as long as they show respect for me, non-belief and all. But I must admit that, these days, it is rare for religious folks to not be ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

@Scooter65 I'm sure they exist, unlike unicorns, but I sure haven't run across them every in my 60 something years around this state.

I hear "some" females say it all of the time: "You can't have male friends if you're in a ...

JonnaBononna comments on Oct 19, 2021:

I think there are men and women both who just think men and women cannot be platonic friends. It's ridiculous, really.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

@GoodMan Thanks for the encouragement and validation. I have looked into trying LD dating, which is what you are suggesting, but I have found few women who are open to it that seem compatible on the site I use. I am not going to join additional sites, as I have already researched that in the past, and found a great amount of overlap and duplication between the sites. As far as there being a woman for me somewhere, that may well be true, but it took me almost twenty years of mostly fruitless dating, with no LTRs, before I finally met my late wife, in 1995, so if it takes that long again, I will already be likely dead or in a nursing home, I am not willing to accept or settle for being alone that long, as I have already been alone for several years now, for all practical purposes, and it has sucked. I am happy with who I am, but I am sick of all the rejection, and tired of being alone this long, after such a long and happy marriage. The problem is the women in my dating pool almost all are not interested in buying or adopting what this doggy in the window seems to be about. And it's a pity, as all of my friends, and even some of the women on Match, who are not my type or vice versa, even acknowledge, that I am a great guy and have much to offer a woman, small consolation that any of that is to me....

While you're agnostic/atheist, if someone religious shares, say, the same political views as you, ...

Charles1971 comments on Oct 19, 2021:

Certainly. I find that most people believe at least some little bit (or a lot) of something stupid... religion, GMOs are evil, candy corn is good, country music doesn't suck, etc. Putting aside ones differences.. as long as they aren't too extreme... for the common good is certainly reasonable. ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

You really hit the nail on the head with one of those. I have lived in Iowa my whole life and hate country music with a passion. To me, all of it old and new, sounds trite, retarded (yes, I also hate most of that PC crap as well) and really boring. But around here, where I have had to suffer hearing it a lot during my life, you have to say with a whisper that you hate it or even don't like country music, like the music or genre is fucking sacred or something, like you were burning or pissing on the American flag. I also hate all the Elvis Presley worship around here as well, as if he were Jesus H. Christ, the messiah or something. There is a huge amount of stupid in my state, and it certainly explains our fucked up Repub one party state politics around here.

While you're agnostic/atheist, if someone religious shares, say, the same political views as you, ...

Aaron70 comments on Oct 19, 2021:

I don’t get these so called “conservative” atheist. Just go to church with the rest of the intolerant bigoted hateful ignorant fucks or get off the fence.☺️

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

Well said, that is why I get into beefs with so many of them on here and end up blocking them, as, in the end, they usually fall on the same side as all the Christian Repubs and Christian conservative I hate, at least on most issues. These conservative atheists seem to really only care much about preventing theocracy against them, otherwise they don't care about anybody else and want it to be every man or woman for themselves, no society or common good.

While you're agnostic/atheist, if someone religious shares, say, the same political views as you, ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2021:

Of course, politics makes strange bedfellows, as they say, and am always glad to make temporary or lasting alliances with religious folks on particular issues, as long as they show respect for me, non-belief and all. But I must admit that, these days, it is rare for religious folks to not be ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

@Ryo1 Undoubtedly there are some that exist, but I bet they are very few in number, as they sure have been in my personal experience. To answer your ?, yes, and yes, but the respect would have to be a two way street, as I never settle for second class or unequal status, whether in personal friendship, a dating relationship or marriage, or a political alliance. How about you, Ryo1? Care to answer your own ? personally and honestly?

I hear "some" females say it all of the time: "You can't have male friends if you're in a ...

JonnaBononna comments on Oct 19, 2021:

I think there are men and women both who just think men and women cannot be platonic friends. It's ridiculous, really.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

Agreed. In my experiences with women and platonic friendships, esp. with women who grew up in the Midwest or Iowa, they are very traditional-minded and also pretty rigid about gender roles as well, so most of them tend to buy into one or more of the four beliefs or myths that women have about men and friendships, as stated by the OP. I have been able to still have a number of platonic friendships with women that lasted a while, but a big part of that is probably due to a few factors that are offbeat about me. One is that I am much more sensitive and pro feminist than most of my male peers. Two, is that I am less sexually aggressive than most men and also less macho looking or acting than most. Three, is that I have had plenty of platonic friendships with gay men, without ever feeling threatened or uncomfortable with them, including my longest and best friend, who was the best man at my wedding. Unfortunately, I have a feeling these things work against me in the dating game, as probably a lot of the women in my local dating pool, who I described above as traditional-minded and old fashioned about gender roles and such, probably see me too much as asexual or androganous in my behavior and appearance, so they may consciously or consciously suspect or assume I might be gay. At the very least, I have no doubt it causes most of the women I meet in person from dating sites to feel no chemistry or physical attraction for me, even after one or two in person meetings. And there is not a damned thing I can really do about their outdated, narrow-minded thinking, so it breaks my heart a lot of the time. I am, in many ways, the classic, stereotypical sensitive New Age guy, and so are all my straight male friends, and while those qualities are attractive to most women here on Agnostic.com, they are foreign, strange, and suspiciously gay, I suspect, to most women in my local dating pool, who pretty much grew up on the farm or at least in a rural area. Thus, they prefer the more macho, farmer type man, even some of the women here on Agnostic and other non religious women I have met on Match, who live in Iowa, few that they are, because that is the example they grew up around. Can't change myself or a shitty dating pool, not going to try LD dating either, as it's usually not worth it, and even if it is, it's likely an exhausting emotional rollercoaster that is very hard to find women in my region who are even willing to try it, maybe not on this site, but it sure is hard to find them on Match.

Wise words from a sage

Sticks48 comments on Oct 19, 2021:

Darwinism at work. Stand back and enjoy.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

You are playing sweet music to my ears with that, Larry....

In a previous posting on whether people.

Charles1971 comments on Oct 18, 2021:

Why am I here and why do I stay? I live in Georgia and am surrounded by religion and its nice to communicate with non-religious people even if its only via the internet. Though initially I did think that I might actually make a friend or two here. So far, I have only made one friend though that ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 19, 2021:

I have never met one single person from here in the flesh, so that tells me that using this site for dating, at least in my state of the union, is useless, and so is the site for even making offline friends in my local area. But I have heard that others living in less religious areas of the country do find dating partners and friends from here nearby.

Tell Texas education system this

anglophone comments on Oct 17, 2021:

I see no difference between the murdering of slaves, the murdering of Jews and the murdering of people of colour. But the fuckwits of the Texa$$ education system are blind to that truth.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 17, 2021:

All they would care about is the murder or loss of privilege of white people, nothing else. And even in that, the murder of poor white people would count for little to them, unless it could be manipulated to fan racial hatred of colored people.

I've had a couple of these come into my life and never even saw it coming.

Heavykevy1985 comments on Oct 11, 2021:

Similar to that is sneating: where someone on a date goes out with you for the free food and drinks. Signs of this may include your date ignoring you and tooling away on their phone. Also, they will order the most expensive thing on the menu

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 12, 2021:

@glennlab Same here. Mostly because, I have usually asked the woman to pay for her meal on the first date, which, once I was middle aged, usually was coffee date or a movie date, so I wasn't ever stuck with a big bill. I used to have a massage therapist who told me that when she was young and single, she would take guys all the time on first dates for the free meal and drinks, while all the while they were hoping or expecting sex from her they were never going to get. She enjoyed the game, and maybe some of the men did too, but I would never expect sex for a meal, or play games with a date. Not surprisingly, she ended up becoming a Trumper....

Of all the incredibly utopian and delusional memes I come across in a daily basis… this one has ...

BufftonBeotch comments on Oct 11, 2021:

Especially if you are christian, white, American and super proud of these things you had nothing to do with.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 12, 2021:

Very true. There is something wrong about taking credit for all kinds of tribal things that you were not responsible for.

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TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 9, 2021:

I have one prediction you can take to the bank, and it applies from now till Doomsday, and that is the Dem Party will never allow a real progressive to be its nominee for prez, because they really don't care about winning in prez elections or controlling congress. They can't wait for the next ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 12, 2021:

@whiskywoman Ok, which parts don't seem true, to you?

Pete Townshend's version of North Country Girl is my favorite.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 9, 2021:

That is such a great song, one of Dylan's masterpieces of songwriting. He recorded a duet version of it with Johnny Cash that is also really great. I would actually like this version better with just the guitar, and not with the annoying synth, which is kind of distracting.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 11, 2021:

@Spinliesel I can understand that one. My father had a lot of things about him that I really hated, so looking or sounding like him was always disturbing to me. I rebelled a lot as a young adult, probably much of it even unconsciously. No need to say more on your part.

Today, I allowed myself to be engaged in conversation by a Christian.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 11, 2021:

Confuse not the minds of the simple or ignorant, they will only hate you for it....

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 11, 2021:

@Gwendolyn2018 I have met many so-called educated fools or educated idiots, who may have went to college or even got advanced degrees, but have the common sense of a wounded gorilla. Or the other educated fools who, like this one, choose to be willfully ignorant. I cringe every time, which is often, that I meet a college-educated person who, willfully, has never read another book since college, (and only read and learned grudgingly in college, in order to get the degree and the job that was supposed to come with it) unless it was required reading for their job. Such anti-intellectualism is laughable, if it weren't so sad and pathetic.....

I hate when I get a notification about a comment I made, but the whole thread has been deleted.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 10, 2021:

Me too. Where's the fun in irritating someone if I can't see the fruits of it, like them showing or proving me right by acting out and reacting to it like the asshole I already knew they were? My count is that I have 60 people blocked on my end, plus at least another couple dozen that have blocked ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@Secretguy Whatever, Secretguy, snark away at me. We are clearly more alike than you want to admit.

Pete Townshend's version of North Country Girl is my favorite.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 9, 2021:

That is such a great song, one of Dylan's masterpieces of songwriting. He recorded a duet version of it with Johnny Cash that is also really great. I would actually like this version better with just the guitar, and not with the annoying synth, which is kind of distracting.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@Spinliesel That makes sense. Do you mean his singing voice or his type of expressing himself in his songs, thru lyrics and music? I can understand being turned off by an artist if their content is too negative or intense for you based on your personal experience.

Pete Townshend's version of North Country Girl is my favorite.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 9, 2021:

That is such a great song, one of Dylan's masterpieces of songwriting. He recorded a duet version of it with Johnny Cash that is also really great. I would actually like this version better with just the guitar, and not with the annoying synth, which is kind of distracting.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@Spinliesel I'm curious why you don't like Cohen's music.

Pete Townshend's version of North Country Girl is my favorite.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 9, 2021:

That is such a great song, one of Dylan's masterpieces of songwriting. He recorded a duet version of it with Johnny Cash that is also really great. I would actually like this version better with just the guitar, and not with the annoying synth, which is kind of distracting.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 9, 2021:

@Spinliesel I think you undercredit yourself by calling yourself simple, but I get you on this. I like folk music a lot too. Including also Leonard Cohen, John Prine, The Indigo Girls, Tracy Chapman, and Joni Mitchell.

I couldn’t access the Zoom meeting on Thursday…I sent you a PM Lisa but I don’t know if you ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 9, 2021:

You can tell your buddies from the Community Senate that I'm back, only had a temp suspension from commenting and posting, so they are stuck with me on the boards, tho I have blocked all three of them so, they won't see me anyway. I did come back to lurk during the suspension and saw how they were ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 9, 2021:

@Marionville Whatever, tell them, don't tell them, they will find out eventually.

I couldn’t access the Zoom meeting on Thursday…I sent you a PM Lisa but I don’t know if you ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 9, 2021:

You can tell your buddies from the Community Senate that I'm back, only had a temp suspension from commenting and posting, so they are stuck with me on the boards, tho I have blocked all three of them so, they won't see me anyway. I did come back to lurk during the suspension and saw how they were ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 9, 2021:

@Marionville I am, for your information, talking about Frayed Bear, Fearless Fly, and The Middle Way, but I am not going to air out my conflict with them here. You either recognize it or you don't. I never said you were party to it or that you were gloating with them about me, but, unlike me, you don't have them blocked and I assume are still running across them on the boards. So that is why I am sending, or trying to send the news to them thru you, should you choose to pass it on for me.

Wanna hear a rape joke?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 8, 2021:

They are mimicing the same bullying, threatening behavior of their allies in the anti-abortion movement, screaming abuse at women who walk into clinics. If I were one of those parents being harassed and threatened, I would probably lose my temper and shout back at them to stay out of my face or I ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 8, 2021:

@racocn8 Damn right. Fighting this fight would actually be worth it and do some good. Fighting all the wars of my lifetime, which have all been for oil, empire or corporate profits, have never been worth any of the lives lost, as they really didn't make any lasting improvements in the places they were fought, at least as far as making them more like a real and fair democracy. But they sure made a lot of for some Americans and corporations. Which is why I opposed all those wars, because, as a socialist, I saw how the soldiers were being used to fight for the rich and corporations, not for anything that benefitted their fellow peasants. Maybe someday Americans will become sane enough to demand that corporations hire their own mercenaries to fight their wars, not regular citizens, and not be able to use our tax for it. Better yet, that enough Americans wake up and take back our democracy, so that corporations can't fight these wars in the first place, and claim to do it in our name and for our country's benefit, the original and real Big Lie....

Wanna hear a rape joke?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 8, 2021:

They are mimicing the same bullying, threatening behavior of their allies in the anti-abortion movement, screaming abuse at women who walk into clinics. If I were one of those parents being harassed and threatened, I would probably lose my temper and shout back at them to stay out of my face or I ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 8, 2021:

@racocn8 You're welcome. Unlike most people on the left, esp, the dreaded liberals and Dem centrists, who, to me, don't really qualify as lefties anymore, except on culture war issues, I am a pessimistic realist. I see Chris Hedges, for example, as prophetic, that we will eventually have open civil war all across the country, if we don't already get complete fascism before that under the next Repub. prez in three years. I hope I'm wrong, but I really doubt it. There will be civil war fought openly, if it happens across just about every state on the mainland US, and it will be mostly rural vs. urban fought in regions of each state. I predicted Trump would win the last time, and I was only wrong, narrowly too, because Covid and the economic collapse came along to save Biden, after I had already made the prediction. As far as Satisfaction, a geek like me is probably more along the line of the Devo version than the Stones, lol!

Wanna hear a rape joke?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 8, 2021:

They are mimicing the same bullying, threatening behavior of their allies in the anti-abortion movement, screaming abuse at women who walk into clinics. If I were one of those parents being harassed and threatened, I would probably lose my temper and shout back at them to stay out of my face or I ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 8, 2021:

@jlynn37 Maybe I realize all that, have no illusions about changing their minds or alleviating or mediating the issue, but just enjoy getting my licks in the same as them. Sometimes, I think it is important and worthwhile to let the enemy know that not all lefties are passive, well-mannered and non-violent, because it not only gives the enemy a tactical advantage, it also turns some people off about our side because they are tired of lefties either always acting like wimpy sissies or hearing that all of our side are that, etc.. For example, if the Jan. 6 rioters had been dealt with harshly, yet not with lots of them being killed and thus becoming martyrs, I think you would have seen a lot less support for them around the country, as many on their side would realize they were not going to be treated gently, and, being that most of them are cowardly bullies, they would have crawled back under their rocks. Letting them know they cannot bully with impunity is an important lesson that needs to be continually taught them, if not by the authorities, then by us in the public sphere, so to speak... And frankly man, with the long history of the cops and military having such an obvious double standard for how they treat folks on the left vs. folks like them on the right, I no longer have any trust in the authorities to treat my enemies appropriately. In other words, it's more up to us than you may think... Another thing to consider, the corporate media and our enemies, are always going to lump peaceful protesters in with antifa, anarchists, and other violent groups anyway, same way the right always lumps liberals and all Dems in with communists, so why continue to care how we are seen by the public as far as how mannered or civil we are? In my mind, it's about past time to keep caring about public image, as we peasants are helpless to control what the corporate media and our enemies say about us. They sure as hell don't care about their public image. It's been a long time since the 60s, when moral outrage by itself produced change and the mass media was actually fair, honest, balanced, and not monopolized by a few corporate conglomerates. Time to quit playing nice like back then and realize, as all serious community organizers do nowadays, that change only comes with hardball organizing and then fighting for power. And most of the time, that includes using the threat of violence to get the authorities, the pols, and the ruling class to make concessions to us. They don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts, they make them because, sometimes, they feel putting up with further violence and continued unrest is bad for business, so to speak, both economically, and also possibly unsafe down the line for the rich and powerful. No one who's rich wants to live ...

Ok, so I went on a first date with a guy a couple of weeks ago.

Tiredofdrama comments on Oct 7, 2021:

Yes talk on the phone first. I tell ladies to Google me, not as many pages as there used to be , but I am there. It is a reasonable background check. Meeting in a public place is good. I have just had someone I met on line invite herself to my place for a coffee as first meet. I was surprised. We ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 8, 2021:

You seem like a reasonable, fair guy, who seems to understand the legit ways women have to fear for their safety and try to be appropriately accommodating to them. If only more men were like us, and acted like gentlemen in the dating game, we wouldn't get hit with as much drama and bullshit heaped on us by cynical, bitter women who generalize all the negative onto every new man they encounter on dating sites, instead of trying to give each new person a clean slate to start with. Because it is and has to be possible to do that and still protect your safety. Doing otherwise is just going to result in failure with the dating process, as either the woman will sabotage any potential decent matches or the guy will get fed up with the woman's negative approach and let her go, and move on from her.

Overseeing his kingdom from the refrigerator.

Diagoras comments on Oct 7, 2021:

We're trying to discourage him from going up there since he jumps on the stove as a step. Don't want him getting burned if it's hot. Pans are left on the stove at all times now. Hopefully it works.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 7, 2021:

Unless he decides to amuse himself by knocking them off onto the floor.

Who likes......Pillow Talk ?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 6, 2021:

Pillow talk, sheesh, give me a break. I'm still trying to remember what sex was like, lol, having been alone on that for several years now, since my late wife became very ill.... Once or if, I experience pillow talk again with someone, I'll let you know...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@HeAdAkE Don't feel rich enough for that, plus it could get addictive, but the real reason, my good man, is that I still have the archaic notion that it is not right to buy or rent people that way. I know that I have been wronged by women in the dating game, but, unlike you, I have not grown so callous as to see buying someone for sex as ok. Guess I'm just over sensitive that way. Maybe if this was a more progressive country, like New Zealand, where sex work was legal and not as exploitive, I could feel ok about it. If I had a cat, you're right, I would probably talk to it a lot, but I don't want the work, the mess and the smell to cope with.. Nice to see you back on the boards, man..I was wondering about you...

The Ring of Fire - Trump Humiliated Melania In Front Of White House Staff Over Her ‘I Don't ...

LucyLoohoo comments on Oct 5, 2021:

Typical of the pustule's behavior when he's thwarted. Let's pick on a woman. (Particularly if she's tied to you by a presumed iron-clad pre-nup.) Shows us all what a BIG MAN he is! BULLY! I doubt that she could take this ''run away with the kid'' advice because I'd bet money she'd lose ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 5, 2021:

You make a good point, but I bet there are many women who have made the kind of hard choice that you are talking about, such as taking the kids and leaving the prick, even if it left them broke and a single mother. I can think of at least one woman here on Agnostic, Deb57, I think, who decided to maintain her dignity and self respect, even if it left her broke and struggling as a single mom to raise her kids, when, as a single mom, she chose to turn down a man who wanted to hire her to be his paid mistress, to cheat on his wife with. Sometimes you have to choose between your own mental health and the safety and emotional health of your kids as well, and having a life of comfort and privilege, as many women have done when they left abusive husbands and left with their kids, including women who were already working poor or poor and had to face the real possibility of being homeless if they left the prick. Trump's ex wives never comment on him publicly, I bet because he either had them sign confidentiality agreements on that as part of the divorce settlement, or because they know if they blab about him they will get sued by him and be left penniless as well.

We always say ‘I wish I knew that when I was 20’ just curious what people older than me wish ...

Zster comments on Oct 5, 2021:

Those poor eating, drinking, smoking choices that your peers have been making, seemingly without consequence, are about to come collecting in spades real soon. I am shocked at the distribution of apparent age spread that started kicking in after 50. How we spent our youth ends up mattering after ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 5, 2021:

You're right about that and, at least in my case, the family genetics start to kick in as well at age 50 or so. That is when I started to develop my inherited cardiovascular conditions my parents passed on to me, as well as the varicose veins in one of my legs, inherited from my father. So both youthful health habits and genetics can be destiny, even if they don't show up until middle age. I have really noticed, at my age, how people who spent way too much time in the sun as young adults and/or were longtime smokers, really show their age or older in their appearance once they start into their 50s. Their skin is wrinkled, yellowed, or very dark brown, depending on their habits, and the smokers teeth begin to yellow also. In the case of my sister in law, she also seems to have mascular degeneration of her eyes, from all the time in the sun. We always seem to pay eventually, for your health habits.

Parody on mask wearing

RobertMartin comments on Oct 1, 2021:

Mask debaters. If it weren't for the captions, I would've heard masturbaters. I wear masks and have been vaccinated. I also received a flu shot earlier this afternoon.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 2, 2021:

Reminds me of high school, when the debate team entered an intramural basketball team that season and called their team The Master Debaters, just so each morning when the intramural scores were read over the school's PA system with the daily announcements, they would get the chance to hear the student announcer screw up and call their team The Masturbaters.... Ah, good times.... I'm also proud to say that my team, made up of me and other members of the boys swim team, beat them in our one game against them...

WIFE WANTED! $2,000 FINDER'S FEE IF YOU SEND THE RIGHT WOMAN TO ME, WE FALL IN LOVE, AND GET ...

Susieq comments on Oct 1, 2021:

You sound like a hoot. I ‘ll bite. I’m available

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

I'm guessing he would foot the bill for the plane tickets, to pursue a bicoastal romance....

Does a spiritual but not religious person say grace?

mischl comments on Oct 1, 2021:

I define spirituality as being in touch with one's own human spirit. It's another term for describing the "inner mind" which has knowledge and powers unknown to most people. It has nothing to do with gods, beliefs, angels, and all that other religious bullshit.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

I concur. It's about recognizing there is more to our reality than just our physical matter, our brains and minds, but also a human spirit and possibly even spirits in nature and animals as well. Which is why I am humble enough to identify as Agnostic instead of Atheist within our community of non-believers, because I accept the possibility that I could be wrong and that there may be more to the world and our reality than what our senses can detect. I also agree with your concept of the inner mind, something that humans continue to learn more about with time.

Does a spiritual but not religious person say grace?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 1, 2021:

I have frequently seen that label used on dating sites as an option or choice among other labels for one's religious affiliation when the member is completing their profile and choosing which ?s to answer and what way to label themselves. The sad fact is that, esp. in my area of the country, and ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

@FearlessFly Yes, and yes. I am also being realistic about the dating pool I have to work with. Can you honestly say you would do any different if you were spending your good money on a dating site? I mean the whole point of it is to hopefully eventually meet someone that you can connect with. How can you connect if the vast majority is going to be too turned off or even confused by the labels Agnostic or Atheist to even give you a chance to get to know you and vice versa? I see you live in MN, possibly even in or around Minneapolis, which is a whole different ballgame, from what I hear, than Des Moines, Iowa, where I live. Much more diverse and more secular. So don't fucking judge me so quick and easily, FF. Yup, checked your profile, you do live near the Twin Cities, so I was right. You live in a much better dating pool than me, so you can afford to be so bold and honest, but you can fuck yourself as far as judging me when you live where you do.

Does a spiritual but not religious person say grace?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 1, 2021:

I have frequently seen that label used on dating sites as an option or choice among other labels for one's religious affiliation when the member is completing their profile and choosing which ?s to answer and what way to label themselves. The sad fact is that, esp. in my area of the country, and ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

@FearlessFly Probably true, but in this situation, probably appropriately pragmatic...

WIFE WANTED! $2,000 FINDER'S FEE IF YOU SEND THE RIGHT WOMAN TO ME, WE FALL IN LOVE, AND GET ...

BitFlipper comments on Oct 1, 2021:

I thought this was a joke until I checked the poster's profile. He's serious. BUT THEN I haven't seen many men's dating profiles, so maybe this is a winner.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

We can only hope. My guess is that he will attract only younger women who are golddiggers or scammers.

Most Americans today are convinced that Socialism has failed or will fail in the near future...

Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Sep 24, 2021:

Most Americans don't even know what socialism is.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

@Piece2YourPuzzle Amazing and disturbing..

Well, boy did I get played.

twill comments on Oct 1, 2021:

This is why:::: Either we meet very soon, like within 2 weeks, ( unless we've barely chatted) or .....this might/ will drag on forever. I've Wasted too much time on such silliness. (Anything over an hour) there is NO FUCKING EXCUSE, If you're on a dating site to meet someone, or not. If you ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

Agreed. I won't let it happen again, I assure you. I will either meet them in person, or at least a video chat, within two weeks or less in the future. If they pull bullshit excuses to delay, then it's Next!, because they are either too busy to be dating, more interested in other guys they are already connected with from Match, or else just interested in playing games or finding a text buddy. A video chat or in person meeting is necessary to really know if there is or might be any chemistry or physical attraction, at least on my part, and I don't want to waste my time or theirs by letting it drag on for longer than two weeks to get that decision made. Because if the answer to that ? is a no, then why waste all that time trading messages and discussing likes, differences, etc. if it's never going to go further than a friendship? I know that most women disagree with this, because they either say or honestly believe in doing this long friendship process early in dating, and I get that, too many men are just focused on moving to sex as soon as possible, while I am not that at all. But on the other hand, we all want to date someone from dating sites that has mutual physical attraction, not just to gather a harem or collection of opposite sex friends from the dating site. So it's best to get that ? settled as soon as possible before investing all that time in continuing to meet up and stay in the friend zone before later deciding to move on to sex. I think my approach is still a long way from the current practice of most young people to start with sex-the so-called sex interview-before deciding whether to get to know the other person as a person later.

Most Americans today are convinced that Socialism has failed or will fail in the near future...

Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Sep 24, 2021:

Most Americans don't even know what socialism is.

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

And the corporate media makes sure they never do and never will....

Exactly right. 100%

BD66 comments on Sep 30, 2021:

so·cial·ism noun a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Socialism fails every time because you take the means of production, distribution, and ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Oct 1, 2021:

@BD66 Fuck off. You still refuse to admit how right I am about at least the rest of my comment about you. Time to block, asshole...

Exactly right. 100%

BD66 comments on Sep 30, 2021:

so·cial·ism noun a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Socialism fails every time because you take the means of production, distribution, and ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 30, 2021:

@BD66 I hate how you dishonest conservative fuckers keep bringing up Bernie as some straw man argument against socialism. Like the OP, JB stated, the US has no viable socialist party going. And Bernie and even The Squad, have no power whatsoever in the Dem Party or the fed govt., as they are overwhelmingly outnumbered by centrist, neoliberal corporate Dems. They are merely given attention for show and to keep the Dem base safely sheepdogged inside the party instead of leaving for a real socialist or progressive party. And you damn well know it, but you keep making these phony bullshit arguments as if Bernie and the other progressives actually had real power in DC, like Manchin and Sismea have. Quit your fucking lying, you dishonest fuck. You are fooling no one who is actually informed and intelligent here on Agnostic, just spreading the misinformation for you and your conservative pals. Your gratuitous red-baiting is also very tired and outdated. Maybe we should return the favor and properly lump you in with Pinochet, Franco, Hitler and other right wing authoritarians that you favor, as you are in favor of freedom only for the rich and white supremecists such as yourself. There is nothing patriotic in your support for right wing authoritarianism. You'll never be rich, I bet, but you will always be the latter, a white supremicist, if you support authoritarians.

It is hard to deal with irrational people, religious or not.

xenoview comments on Sep 30, 2021:

If they want the note to not get the covid vaccine, then make them sign a form say they can't get treatment for covid at the hospital.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 30, 2021:

That would be a fair agreement.

Health and Happiness are a relative thing, the scale slides as we get older.

Organist1 comments on Sep 28, 2021:

Come back when you're 60! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

dalefvictor- I was addressing only Organist, sorry you took it wrongly.

True here!!

OldGoat43 comments on Sep 28, 2021:

## SOCIALISM AT WORK: Almost 100% of the Government support network available for seniors could be called Socialist Programs. How many people refused to accept the checks which were sent out to support them during the pandemic. Nobody in this part of the country is afraid of WIC or Food Stamps, ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@CuddyCruiser Because they are too braindead to be allowed to live, yet they go on anyway...

Good Bye and Good Riddance: So if you’re angry, guess what?

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 28, 2021:

I drove a school bus for several years before I retired. One guy quit last year because he is a right winger who didn't want to mask up for the job, but it really didn't cost him much because for him it was a second job after his upholstery shop. So he has been sticking with that and I'm sure it's ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@MyTVC15 Even with all the windows open, which will not be possible in a couple weeks after it gets colder here, the ventilation in the buses is poor. As far as masks, shit, you can't even get all the kids to stay in their seats, much less keep their masks on, and in my district, the schools can't even require masks in school or on the bus, thanks to our governor. I knew when Covid hit that it would scare away all of the older drivers, at least the ones who didn't need the money really badly.

Health and Happiness are a relative thing, the scale slides as we get older.

Organist1 comments on Sep 28, 2021:

Come back when you're 60! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@dalefvictor, @Organist1 I wish I could still get dates like you. And I don't think I'm that bad looking...

Health and Happiness are a relative thing, the scale slides as we get older.

Organist1 comments on Sep 28, 2021:

Come back when you're 60! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@dalefvictor I generally agree. There are a lot of women my age that I would like to try to date from here, but they all live at least a few hundred miles away or more, and in every case they are not willing or able to relocate and I am not willing to relocate or date LD. Almost none of them are willing to do that last one either. So, round and round we go, and the paid dating sites are the only real option, at least for me. And those have way too few women who are my type and way too much competition from guys who are better looking and have more money, as well as having kids, which is a dealbreaker for the vast majority of women in my local dating pool. Only family men need apply.

Good Bye and Good Riddance: So if you’re angry, guess what?

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 28, 2021:

I drove a school bus for several years before I retired. One guy quit last year because he is a right winger who didn't want to mask up for the job, but it really didn't cost him much because for him it was a second job after his upholstery shop. So he has been sticking with that and I'm sure it's ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@MyTVC15 I just got a phone call from the latest, in a series the last few years, new manager of the local bus company I used to work for. I quit and retired three years ago and they are so desperate that he called me to see if I was interested and eligible to come back and drive for them again. I told him I let my CDL expire and I have no interest in coming back, as I have heard from other drivers still working there how much the conditions have changed with Covid and how complicated the job is now. He thanked me for my time and I wished him luck, he's going to need it. He says I worked with him before I quit, but I don't remember him.

Terry was absolutely right

silverotter11 comments on Sep 28, 2021:

Satire is a fine art and from what I have seen few trump supporters/republicans understand satire.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

They don't. They only understand bullying and cruelty. To them, cruelty is the whole point of their policies in the first place, except for the ones that are about greed.

Good Bye and Good Riddance: So if you’re angry, guess what?

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 28, 2021:

I drove a school bus for several years before I retired. One guy quit last year because he is a right winger who didn't want to mask up for the job, but it really didn't cost him much because for him it was a second job after his upholstery shop. So he has been sticking with that and I'm sure it's ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@MyTVC15 Iowa gave up contact tracing long ago, thanks to Reynolds. She has the same attitude as Trump, put business and profits ahead of lives and public health, and just let the virus spread thru everyone until we reach herd immunity, if ever, by the vast majority of people getting infected.

Good Bye and Good Riddance: So if you’re angry, guess what?

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 28, 2021:

I drove a school bus for several years before I retired. One guy quit last year because he is a right winger who didn't want to mask up for the job, but it really didn't cost him much because for him it was a second job after his upholstery shop. So he has been sticking with that and I'm sure it's ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@MyTVC15 The ones in Iowa don't, at least for now, thanks to our Repub guv, Covid Kim Reynolds. Most of the local school boards want to have mask mandates, but she issued a statewide order prohibiting that. So much for the old Repub policy of supporting local control, as it only applies, for them, when it suits their purpose and policy. That bitch is always saying, "I trust Iowans to do the right thing", but she won't honor that when it comes to school boards choosing to do the right thing, instead she says it must be up to the personal choice of parents, instead of allowing school boards to choose to order masks and protect all of the kids in their district. What a lying, hypocritical bitch! And the pity is that her latest poll numbers show she has approval ratings over 50% and will easily get relected in a year. Iowans are mostly stupid and this state has become North Mississippi.

Good Bye and Good Riddance: So if you’re angry, guess what?

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 28, 2021:

I drove a school bus for several years before I retired. One guy quit last year because he is a right winger who didn't want to mask up for the job, but it really didn't cost him much because for him it was a second job after his upholstery shop. So he has been sticking with that and I'm sure it's ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@MyTVC15 Sounds like hell. So glad I got out before Covid.

What will you do Lover Boy?

xenoview comments on Sep 28, 2021:

So she's not aloud male friends?

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 28, 2021:

@xenoview The correct spelling is allowed. Glad I could help.

I just want to say, you wonderful people have given me so much wisdom and at times, good belly ...

PondartIncbendog comments on Sep 25, 2021:

I would appreciate it if you wouldn't laugh at my belly though.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 28, 2021:

Sounds like you resemble her remark.... BTW, I am serious and stop calling me Shirley, etc....

Marjorie Taylor Greene's 'good Christian' abortion meltdown

LucyLoohoo comments on Sep 27, 2021:

SIGH....will it ever change? I take comfort in statistics about declining numbers of Xtians. https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 28, 2021:

@LucyLoohoo We can always hope that....

To use the bible as a Christian's worst enemy.

phoenixone1 comments on Sep 27, 2021:

According to my CHEATING ASS ex wife...you're exempted from EVERYTHING...as long as you say "I'm sorry Jesus...I won't do it again"...except for the additional 5 times...BITCH😂

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 27, 2021:

Ah yes, the old "pray for forgiveness from Christ" loophole, which also seems to exempt them from actually seeking or doing anything to deserve forgiveness from the actual person they wronged,,,,

Marjorie Taylor Greene's 'good Christian' abortion meltdown

LucyLoohoo comments on Sep 27, 2021:

SIGH....will it ever change? I take comfort in statistics about declining numbers of Xtians. https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 27, 2021:

@rainmanjr Same as the Israeli settlers on the West Band. Same strategy, win with overwhelming numbers.

Marjorie Taylor Greene's 'good Christian' abortion meltdown

LucyLoohoo comments on Sep 27, 2021:

SIGH....will it ever change? I take comfort in statistics about declining numbers of Xtians. https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 27, 2021:

It ends up being a wash, because for every Christian that drops out of the fold, another replaces them, as they tend to breed in greater numbers than non-believers.

My neighbor died recently.

KKGator comments on Sep 26, 2021:

His wife is in denial. Not uncommon. No one here gets out alive. Some of us do things to hasten our exit.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 26, 2021:

"No one here gets out alive"- Jim Morrison and The Doors...

Just saw the new movie, The Eyes Of Tammy Faye, and I haven't laughed that much at a movie in quite ...

rainmanjr comments on Sep 26, 2021:

Good for you. They keep getting taken in but keep going back to the same well.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 26, 2021:

Yup, you can't fix stupid. They refuse to believe that prayer and following the orders of their leaders will fail to pay off for them. No difference whether it's Trump or some televangelist, it's the same kind of delusion and the same kind of con.

Last week, I was speaking with an old friend who lives in Los Angeles, and he told me he personally ...

Sticks48 comments on Sep 25, 2021:

I have lost two friends and an ex-brother in law. One friend early on because he did not wear a mask or social distance and the other two in the last couple of months. They refused to get vaccinated, both in their 50s.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 26, 2021:

Sorry for you they were so stubborn. Not really sorry for them.

A family member is gaslighting me, and it’s a fascinating psychological study when I can ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 25, 2021:

For some people, they spread BS or gas-lighting to create drama and chaos, which they actually enjoy. It may be a matter of being attention-starved, or trying to address their cognitive dissonance. Bullies like to bully and search for victims. It's a behavioral disorder that travels with malignant ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 25, 2021:

What you are describing is very sick and dysfunctional, but way more common than most people think, or like to admit, esp. here in the Midwest, where people like to paper over conflict with fake politeness, deny family problems, and are too proud or embarrassed to get therapy when they should. I won't play along with, or put up with any of the bullshit.

Bill Maher: NFL’s move to play ‘black national anthem’ is ‘segregation’ | New York Post - ...

Sticks48 comments on Sep 25, 2021:

The national anthem is a bad song and should be done away with. America The Beautiful should be our anthem.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 25, 2021:

@JonnaBononna Interesting, that's one verse that I never hear sung before sports events. Now I can see why...

Bill Maher: NFL’s move to play ‘black national anthem’ is ‘segregation’ | New York Post - ...

Sticks48 comments on Sep 25, 2021:

The national anthem is a bad song and should be done away with. America The Beautiful should be our anthem.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 25, 2021:

Agree, and, probably the best version of it I've heard sung, ironically, is by Ray Charles. So maybe that version would satisfy most people, black and white.. I also agree that the current national anthem is not only a bad song musically, it glorifies war too much as well. The only problem I have with America The Beautiful, is the God language in it, but that's a small quibble.

Getting my 3rd covid shot tomorrow! excited

Sticks48 comments on Sep 24, 2021:

Got mine two weeks ago. I will get a fourth in a few months if they feel it is needed.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 25, 2021:

@Sticks48 I didn't think you had a compromised immune system, so I assume you are getting the booster due to your age.

Getting my 3rd covid shot tomorrow! excited

Sticks48 comments on Sep 24, 2021:

Got mine two weeks ago. I will get a fourth in a few months if they feel it is needed.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 25, 2021:

@Sticks48 Thanks. I don't have a compromised immune system and am only 63, but I do have my heart condition, so that is why I am seeking advice on whether to get a booster.

Getting my 3rd covid shot tomorrow! excited

Sticks48 comments on Sep 24, 2021:

Got mine two weeks ago. I will get a fourth in a few months if they feel it is needed.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 25, 2021:

Larry- I had the Moderna for my first two. Has that been approved yet for booster shots? If so, I would be due in mid Dec. for a third. I will probably get one then if my primary doc and cardiologist recommend it.

Real

onthefire comments on Sep 24, 2021:

My best friend ghosted me. How he didn't catch on earlier is beyond me. He'll get over it or he won't.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 24, 2021:

Exactly. You need to be able to let them go and move on if they are not able to accept and respect you.

I think this says it all

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 20, 2021:

I can't imagine what it's like these days treating these idiots for Covid and knowing how preventable and voluntary their illness is. Esp. if they have to continue to listen to their bullshit and denial about the virus. I don't know how docs and nurses can stand it.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 24, 2021:

@bobwjr I may need an open heart surgery next year to repair two aortic aneuryisms, but I doubt that is elective surgery. I don't know what the Covid situation will be like by then.

We are in zoom and Lisa wanted me to post this song so more can listen to it. [youtu.be]

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 23, 2021:

Sorry man, I hate country music with a passion, even tho I am a lifelong Iowan. Just lucky, I guess...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@BufftonBeotch Well, most likely they would be countrypokes who, unlike me, think Applebees is fancy. I don't. I guess I am a proud snob and city slicker, and I really don't give a fuck what they think of me. I see them as rubes, hicks, and countrypokes. We get along fine as long as they stay the fuck away from me and vice versa. And they can also keep their stupid ass country songs away from me as well. I won't listen to it in the car or the house, as I get subjected to more than enough of it at the grocery store here and at karaoke.

I want a good woman to take care of me. Oh wait...that's someone else's schtick. LOL

dalefvictor comments on Sep 22, 2021:

I was talking with Kate the other day. She said I could get a girl friend. She had to meet with her approval though. She had to be able to do dishes, cook, clean, clean the windows, vacuum, assist her in her appointments and anything else she could think of. I put this out there because every time I...

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@dalefvictor It is a good one..

I want a good woman to take care of me. Oh wait...that's someone else's schtick. LOL

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 22, 2021:

Looks like you either embarrassed him into deleting his posts or else he blocked me. No matter either way.

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@Secretguy Looks like he deleted that one as well, or else he blocked me.

Hi Everyone.

racocn8 comments on Sep 22, 2021:

You don't consider the political differences to be a red flag?

TomMcGiverin replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@sassygirl3869 A wise move and it may allow the relationship to work, hope it does.

I want a good woman to take care of me. Oh wait...that's someone else's schtick. LOL

TomMcGiverin comments on Sep 22, 2021:

Looks like you either embarrassed him into deleting his posts or else he blocked me. No matter either way.