They Are Trying To Silence AOC, Because Money Never Sleeps

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

The establishment corporate Dems are actually a bigger roadblock to progressive candidates and policy than the Repubs, and anyone left of center who doesn't hate them as much or more than the Repubs (in my case, the latter), is seriously deluded. These ratfuckers and the Repubs are both our enemies, both politically and in the class war. Too many progressives fail to realize that these selfish liberals and centrists who vote for corporate Dems are class enemies of the working class, but rest assured, working class whites are not similarly deluded. They know damn well the people who support corporate Dems are their class enemies, so they strike back the only way they can, by voting against the corporate Dems and their identity politics fused with multiculturalism. They vote red out of spite and I don't blame them. If I can't vote for something positive for me, and I can vote against the cultural program of my class enemy's party, I will at least seek my revenge that way. That is the thinking of working class whites and as long as the Dem party offers them nothing helpful economically, they will continue to vote Red out of spite for the comfortable suburban liberals and centrists in the party.

Trump campaign faces legal action after refusing to stop playing YMCA | The Independent

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

That was funny last night on SNL when Alec Baldwin as Trump sat at the piano to sing and play Macho Man by The Village People...

Interesting essay of thoughts of a black american after Biden win.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

The sad fact is that a majority of white Americans still support Trump and his racism. Biden won only because he had overwhelming turnout of black and Hispanic voters, who overwhelmingly voted for him. Without both of these trends, we would still have Trump, which is quite sobering, tho it doesn't surprise me at all. Most of white America is still just as racist as in the sixties. The difference now is that after all those years of PC becoming a dominant cultural feature, Trump's presidency made it acceptable and proud again to be openly racist. I hope that after January most of these people will crawl back under their rocks, but make no mistake, they aren't going away and in four years another racist Repub worse than Trump will be their prez nominee, bringing back out the racist Trumpers in full view again.

Will there be a record number of pardons before Jan 20 ?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

I have no doubt he will shatter the record for pardons, gifting his family and friends.

Anyone tracking how progressives did in the down ballot? We need to start building the agenda.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

In my state, the Repubs are still running all three branches of the capitol, even got more redder. It's sad that the statewide newspaper doesn't even report the results anymore for third party candidates in Iowa elections for federal offices, not even prez. Got to silence those protest votes by sending them down the rabbit hole, like they never existed. The fact that Dems did badly across the nation while Biden won says clearly that most Americans do not like or trust the Dems any more than the Repubs, actually less than the Repubs. It means the only reason Biden won is that a very slim majority of Americans were sick of Trump and wanted someone different. Biden functioned as the default "None Of The Above", which would have won in a landslide if it had been on the ballot for prez.

No explanation necessary:

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

I'm sure it stealthily moved when nobody was watching.

Joe Biden is now President Elect.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

The fact that Biden barely won over probably the worst prez in recent memory, only because a slim majority of Americans who bothered to vote were so sick of Trump, tells you all you need to know about both how little credibility the Dem Part has with most Americans, one third of whom who could vote but stayed home this time, as well as how corrupt the DNC is to put stopping Bernie ahead of winning in a landslide. This reality of Dem corruption and how much the party is despised and distrusted by the working class is not going to improve in four years, no matter what lying, corrupt neoliberal corporatist the DNC chooses in four years. You can book the 2024 loss already, even tho it's already locked in that progressives will be blamed.

I agree with his analysis. What do you think? [youtube.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

No way Trump should be pardoned. Would be a terrible precedent, even tho it's been done before. He should have been impeached, but since the Repubs are too shameless and corrupt for that to have happened, Trump needs to be held accountable for his crimes outside of the political system and that means criminal charges, a trial, and hopefully convictions without interference from the DOJ or politicians.

What Biden’s win changes for Americans, China, and the environment

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

Whoever wrote that article is pretty gullible about Biden. Out of all the issues in the list, I would say the only ones Biden will push for change on is Covid response, improving foreign relations, and engaging more constructively with China. He also might push for a public option being added to Obamacare, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that. In fact, if the ACA is tossed by the SC, I don't know if he will even push all the way to restore it. He gets way too much campaign money from the healthcare industry. Somebody seems to believe way more than me that pols like Biden mean everything they say during campaigns.

It was obvious the fix was in. That POS knew it too.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 8, 2020:

I knew it in my bones. Clyburn is such a lying, corrupt POS. Him and all the other corrupt black leaders that backed Biden over Bernie. Shows how little they actually care about the welfare of their race, since Bernie planned to do way more for blacks economically, educationally, and employment-wise than Biden ever thought about doing. Yet, when Clyburn and other black leaders endorsed Biden over Bernie, the corporate media then jumped on Bernie and accused him of being racist and that he "had a problem with blacks" because he couldn't get endorsements from any of their leaders except Jesse Jackson. They even bashed Bernie for not seeking an endorsement from Clyburn, even tho Bernie obviously knew Clyburn was a lost cause that would screw him over, but I watched how Bernie would not take the bait in the interview and bash Clyburn. More class and restraint than I would have had, which is why I don't run for office. Bernie graciously said he didn't think Clyburn would be open to endorsing him and left it at that. Between the timing of when Covid hit, the collusion of Obama and the DNC to have all the other primary candidates drop out and endorse Biden over Bernie, having the black leaders endorse Biden, all of this right before Super Tuesday, was certain to stop Bernie, who I still think would have won in a landslide over Trump if he had been nominated as the Dem. Of course, Warren stayed in until right after Super Tuesday to make sure she took away plenty of Bernie's potential support, then dropped out. Next time we need a progressive candidate with big name recognition to run as a third party candidate and if necessary burn down the Dem Party. We've fucking waited over 50 years by then for our turn with the Dems, That's long enough and they deserve to lose and burn.

Let's hope this is the end of it!

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

Not the end of it by any means, just a four year break until the next cycle. By then the Dems will have betrayed the working class whites again with Biden and then Harris finishing his term, so those voters will ping pong back to give the Repubs a narrow win in 2024 even when the Repubs nominate someone worse than Trump. But those voters will be so desperate they will believe the lies of the Repub candidate of claiming they will help the working class, same as Trump did. Meanwhile the Dems will probably nominate Harris and she will have no credibility with those voters as she and Biden will pull the usual corporate Dem playbook of not even trying to do much for the working class while blaming it all on the Repubs, even if the Dems control the House and the Senate. As always, the rich donors and corporate donors will be served and win while the common people lose.

Biden Wins! Congrats to the Democrats for electing Biden and Harris! It's been a rocky and ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

Bah, bah, bleat the stupid sheeple who think Biden will be some great improvement on Trump by fighting class warfare on their behalf, reducing deportations, fighting climate change, eliminating student debt, raising the minimum wage, adding paid sick leave, passing Med4ALL, etc. As John Lennon sang, "And you think you're so clever, and classeless and free, But you're all fucking peasants as far as I can see". So today they celebrate and enjoy the illusion that Biden will even try to make things that greatly better than they are now. That might be true for response to Covid and not opposing BLM, but if you think he wants to make anything better than they were under Obama, you are deluded..... Identity politics is such bullshit and the nutritional equivalent of eating only empty calories, fills you up and leaves you malnourished. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that it doesn't matter if the candidate is a trisexual, green-skinned Buddist Martian-human hybrid. What matters is what policies they support, whether they have integrity over constantly selling out or always compromising before they even begin to fight for a policy, and, finally, if their record matches what they say they will do if elected. Anyone who bases their vote instead of on these things and votes on the candidate's identity is a fool and a rube that the major parties will continue to play like a piano. My prediction in four years is that if the Dem leaders don't think they can push her to the finish line like they did Biden for a squeaker win, they will nominate a gay Hispanic male, so they can then play all the remaining identity politics cards that are remaining. We almost already saw that with Mayor Pete, so you can't say I'm overly cynical to predict this.

Biden Wins! Congrats to the Democrats for electing Biden and Harris! It's been a rocky and ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

Relieved that Trump is going, but sad that liberals will undoubtedly repeat their behavior during the Obama years of going to sleep about America's wars in the Middle East, accepting talk over action on climate change, and not caring about the class war of the 1% against the rest of us. Biden and the liberals in the Dem camp will support a better response to Covid and more Covid relief, as well as the BLM movement, but that will be it. Anything outside of their own self interest, like not getting sick or hurt by Covid, or the rights of colored people to not be murdered by police, neither of are against their own personal comfort or wealth, will be supported by Biden or his supporters. So the economic inequality will continue unabated. No M4all, no student debt relief, no paid sick leave, no reduction of corporate rule. I am disgusted that in four years the white working class will again feel angry, frustrated, and betrayed enough by Biden/Harris that they will elect a Repub even worse than Trump out of desperation to try something other than the usual neoliberal corporatist Dem lies. And, of course, after that happens, the DNC and establishment Dems will blame progressives and the left for their defeat, unless by then they can still get anyone to believe it was also the Russians...

‘Sleepy Joe’s’ Task Is to Put Liberal America Back to Sleep [consortiumnews.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

I'll be shocked if the BLM movement doesn't go to sleep, along with the liberals, under a Biden presidency. I remember how Obama crushed the Occupy movement very quietly and stealthily, while increasing the drone killings, selling us out on healthcare reform, and helping Wall Street steal more from us and make the rich richer while everyone else got poorer. The liberals also have ignored the treatment of Assange and will do even more so under Biden. Our troops will remain in Iraq and Afghanistan. Biden will talk about stopping climate change, but not do anything about it. He also won't do anything about student debt or increasing the min. wage, or paid sick leave. And then in four years, the working class whites will again feel angered and betrayed enough to vote for any Repub prez candidate rather than Harris or whatever neoliberal corporatist the Dems nominate. And next time the Repub candidate will be even worse than Trump, but they will still win. Only a viable third party that threatens the Dems will ever change this.

Donald Trump - You're Fired!

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

The best sign I saw at today's rallies on TV was one with an ugly pic of Trump with the label Schmuck.

Evangelicals stick with Trump, see upside even if he loses

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

They got tons of conservative judges from Trump, so they're happy cuz that's all most of them wanted anyway.

Same same . . . .

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

Exactly, presidential politics has turned into pro wrestling. No wonder Jesse Ventura ran and won in MInnesota. They should just go all in and have the election coverag,e done by the WWF announcers wearing tuxes. I wised up before I even could vote, but all my awareness does is make me angry and depressed every four years. I have never been given a major party candidate to choose for prez that wasn't some form of evil. I am just barely young enough to have missed out on being able to vote for McGovern in 1972, the last time the Dem Party nominated a progressive. Unfortunately, he was running against the evil, masterful liar Tricky Dick Nixon, an even better liar than Obama. Ever since then the Dem Party and the corporate media have kept trotting out that landslide loss as proof positive that a progressive can't win a prez election. How would they know when a major party hasn't tried 50 years and the fear of communism or socialism in the US has undoubtedly grown way less powerful since then, esp. among younger people? But the corporate media and Dem Party have done their best to keep spreading that propaganda anyway. Talk about circular logic...

Redheadedgammy 😃👍had shared this- What if a US presidential candidate refuses to concede ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

Who gives a fuck? He's leaving in Jan., if not sooner. That's all that matters.

How much do you expect "payback" to influence Democrat policy?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

The Dems do not do scorched earth "payback", that is a Repub trait. If anything, I fully expect that Biden will pardon Trump on any federal charges, if they are even brought against him, after he leaves office. The reason is because, despite all the rhetoric of the Dems against Trump, they are all part of the same corrupt club, so they will give Trump a pass on any crimes he commited before leaving office. As far as the state charges against Trump in NY, I also expect that Biden and the establishment Dem leaders will call Cuomo and ask a favor of him to drop any state charges against Trump. These cocksuckers all take care of each other once the election is over and the media have moved on. The vast majority of the voters are too dumb and distracted to notice. Of course, Biden, Cuomo, and other Dems will excuse and justify this corruption by parroting Obama's excuse and saying " We have to move forward, etc." or some similar bullshit.

Biden declared projected victory. Congratulations America!!!☀️☀️☀️

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 7, 2020:

I feel only relief rather than joy, because I know how lame, corrupt, and status quo Biden will be, but seeing Trump leave will be the best thing since Nixon had to resign.

Why wasn't there a landslide: [theguardian.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 6, 2020:

The DNC, the corporate media, and establishment Dem pols keep saying that a progressive candidate for prez can't win, but that's a shit-eating lie and they all know it. The facts are that they were scared shitless of Bernie and knew that if they didn't stop him from the nomination he would have won last time and this time in landslides. They know that Biden only won, barely, because a majority of voters were just sick enough of Trump to tolerate Biden. When they say Bernie couldn't have won, I shoot back " Then maybe we should finally just prove it by allowing a progressive to get the nomination and participate in the debates for the general election". How can any of the centrists know that when the Dems have not had a progressive candidate since McGovern in 1972? I would bet my life on it that if allowed to participate in those debates and wipe the floor with the neoliberal policies of any Repub, the voters would respond and we'd have turnout of 80% or more of eligible voters. But my guess is that if a progressive did get the nomination by some miracle, the corporate media would ignore them as much as possible except for smears and the debate commission, run by the heads of both parties, would collude with the Repub candidate to boycott the debates.

In case you were wondering......

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 6, 2020:

"Newman!!"

Sadly accurate. FUDNC

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 6, 2020:

Ever since Covid hit, I often feel the same as Fry, the difference being that, unlike me, he has a bunch of cool friends to hang around with. Since Covid, I don't even have that..

While we were counting the record number of votes, America broke another record: 116,000 confirmed ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 6, 2020:

Apparently so, or maybe they just think their God will save them from being infected or from getting sick or dying. Who knows? I just know that a lot of people are acting recklessly, selfishly, and stupidly. Kind of like their voting choices. In case the Tokyo Olympics are canceled, they will still have an opportunity to chant, "We're number one!"

When you're a child you want to be a teenager....

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 6, 2020:

I don't want to switch places with a cat during this life, tho there are some days I'm tempted to do so. But after one tour thru this life, I'd be glad to be a cat in my next life, if I have one.

Pat Robertson to Pregnant Woman: Give Baby Up for Adoption and Dump Boyfriend | Beth Stoneburner | ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 6, 2020:

I've got an even better idea. If Robertson is so keen on adoption, why doesn't he adopt the baby? I'm sure he has the bucks to spend on it.

Friday morning cuteness

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 6, 2020:

So big and fluffy. Is this a Maine Coon?

Agnostics

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 5, 2020:

Your best bet is either a Unitarian church or a local Freethinkers And Atheists group. I warn you tho that the latter place is usually made up largely of men and women who are already coupled with male members of the group. Unitarian churches tend to skew mostly female for the adult members.

Baffled Biden

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 5, 2020:

I noticed how last night on TV Biden's wife, once again, as always, seemed to be leading him around the stage and which way to go for leaving the stage.I guess she's probably prepping to be the next Nancy Reagan.

Compulsory Voting in the USA?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 5, 2020:

Australians are so much more reasonable and societal-minded than Americans. They are truly patriotic, not blindly nationalistic like Americans.

Compulsory Voting in the USA?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 5, 2020:

I don't know if I'm for that, but I do know that if it happened the third party candidates would probably do a lot better as the currently non-voting poor would probably be willing to take a chance on those candidates.

So Happy It’s Thursday.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 5, 2020:

You are one freckled kid. Where's you grow up, Australia?

It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

Yup, that says and explains all of it.

20 Close election is still close: I CALLED IT.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

I still wish I had voted for your cat Smudge...

What is going on...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

The ultimate Karen from hell.....

Tweet from Ben Shapiro

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

Who is Shapiro?

Everyone take heart - there were some very important progressive victories! [news.yahoo.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

So whoop-tee-doo, some progressive candidates won because the voters supported their appeal around identity politics. Let's hold the bubbly until later when we see if they are willing to buck the Dem party leaders and establishment on getting a Green New Deal and an adequate Covid relief package for the working class and small business, instead of settling for the usual lip service from Pelosi and Schumer.

But will all the non-bigoted Americans ban together to aggressively address the problem?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

No, and the reason is that a large part of the Repub base are not bigots, just greedy selfish people who who want tax cuts and another large part of the base are white evangelicals who want conservative judges who are anti- abortion and pro-theocracy. Both of these groups will not stand in the way of the bigots if their group is getting what they want from the Repubs. It's simple self interest and tribal agendas being more important to them than honor or principles.

Any US constitutional experts out there?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

Good ?. It's possible, but highly unlikely. I won't be surprised if a few months after the inauguration that he steps down for a "personal health emergency", namely his dementia. I really doubt he will serve a full term.

An Overwhelming Number of White Evangelical Christians Still Voted for Trump | Hemant Mehta | ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

I was shocked to hear secondhand, from another sibling, that my older sister and her hubby, who are evangelicals, were so offended by Trump's speech and behavior that they couldn't stand to vote for him again. So hope springs eternal.

We’re going to the dogs! For everyone that’s been biting their nails watching election results ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

They're a cute duo.

Robin got it.. [youtube.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

I still really miss Robin Williams..

Will you know your sin of feeling like you're winning when you're actually loosing again?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 4, 2020:

"Laugh about it, shout about it, when you've got to choose. Every way you look at it, you lose"- Mrs. Robinson by Paul Simon. How fucking timeless.....

Finish the sentence: America is a...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 3, 2020:

A plutocracy inhabited by an idiocracy of much of the voting electorate resulting in a system that pretends to be a democracy.

VOTING REPORTS.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 3, 2020:

I voted absentee at the beginning of the month. My neighbors voted in person today and said the place was empty and they had no wait.

Today 11/03/2020 I waited in line from 9:25AM to 11:30AM to vote in Paw Paw Township, Michigan.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 3, 2020:

At least no election-watching militias fired on you...

Potential Scenarios for the Election How do you think it will go?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 3, 2020:

I think you left out what looks like the most likely outcome, which is, Biden wins, the Dems hold the House, the Repubs hold the Senate. In my mind, that would be somewhat of an improvement in that Trump would not be able to do more damage. But it would still result in gridlock and not much getting done except maybe better leadership on Covid. Biden would have to do most things by executive order and I doubt he has the balls to do that. At least we would get fewer conservative nutjob judges. Also, the Repubs will do a 180 right after the election if Trump loses and oppose any Dem spending bills, unless it's giveaways to corporations or the rich, as deficits will suddenly matter again to them and they will become budget hawks on any spending Biden wants to do for the peasants or small business.

A fellow user recently noted a ten year difference between herself and a possible positive ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 3, 2020:

I currently feel that eight years in either direction is the most I will attempt. I am especially concerned about not dating someone who is more than eight years older than me, because my late wife was 15 years older than me and died from dementia she inherited from her mother. That experience with her dementia just about broke me and I don't think I could survive having another partner get a long term illness and die again sometime in the next ten years, so I am trying to hedge my bets against that as much as possible. Maybe ten years from now I would be able to handle going thru something like that again, but in the meantime, I don't want to set myself up by choosing someone who is much older than me. Still, the other person's health and family medical history is just as important, if not more so, than their age difference.

ELECTION 2020: Democracy Calls Us to Fight ‘Lesser of Two Evils’ Argument Yet the truth is ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 2, 2020:

I know I will be voting third party for prez next time if the Dems nominate their usual shitty candidate. In fact, now that I know Biden is likely to lose my state by several points, I already regret having voted a couple weeks ago for Biden.

Communities Preparing for the Threat of Violence Around Election Day With news of the ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 2, 2020:

I bet most of these fat tubs of lard could never pass basic training in the army, so they are truly pretend soldiers..

I vote for the divorce . . . . how about you . . . [marketwatch.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 2, 2020:

As long as my state is not part of the same country as the South.

I met someone on Match with promise.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 2, 2020:

Ten years is no problem if you two click together and his health is ok. You appear to be in your mid 60s or so and at that age ten years is ok if the older person's health is reasonably ok. Then you shouldn't have to worry that much about him dying soon.

A little from Column A, and a little from Column B.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 1, 2020:

Between those two books, I would say the authors pretty much covered what is now wrong with our present, except for climate change, which nobody could have saw coming back then.

Very different markings [youtu.be]

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 1, 2020:

Very unusual markings. Cute video watching the kitten play with the other kitten and get bathed by the older cat.

Why are you voting for your presidential candidate?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 1, 2020:

I held my nose and voted for Biden, when who I really wanted was Bernie. That was over three weeks ago when I dropped off my absentee ballot. Today I saw the results of the final Iowa poll showing that Trump now had a lead of several points in my state, so my vote for Biden is not likely to make any difference in that race. Knowing now that Trump is going to win Iowa anyway, I wish I could have my ballot back and vote Green instead for prez.

ELECTION 2020: Democracy Calls Us to Fight ‘Lesser of Two Evils’ Argument – Consortiumnews

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 1, 2020:

The article says it all, nothing to add to it.

Man Kills Waitress Who Asked Him to Extinguish His Cigarette A Mississippi man is under arrest ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 31, 2020:

The problem is too much access to guns for assholes.. As to arming all waitresses with handguns, I am not in favor of that, but I would be happy to see the larger tips it would bring..Assholes like this guy tend to be poor tippers unless they think the waitress will reward them with sexual favors..

Pseudo-left apologists for Biden and the bankruptcy of “lesser-evil” politics Joseph ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 31, 2020:

No surprise there. Wall Street is happy they will get the certainty of Biden over the chaos of Trump and more stability for the economy while at the same time they get promise that Joe will not change anything about the status quo of inequality and corporate rule as well as continued American involvement in the Middle East.

Biden vows to pass LGBTQ rights legislation in first 100 days

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 31, 2020:

I'll first say that gay rights do matter, but ".. a top legislative priority"? How about Covid relief? Climate change legislation? Health care for all? Getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan? Paid sick leave for all? In other words, big whoop, gay rights bills that cost the rich and corporations nothing.... Oh, I forgot Joe said "Nothing will fundamentally change..". Gotta love that good ole corporate neoliberal Dem agenda of identity politics that soothes its base but does nothing to improve the lives of most Americans...

One good part of the arrival of the cool seasons of autumn and winter.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 31, 2020:

They only want your body heat..

Many people wonder why Wisconsin is the 3rd highest state with COVID cases.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 31, 2020:

Sounds a lot like my state, Iowa. Biggest outbreaks are in the university towns, no mask mandates for the most part in the state. The main diff is that Iowa is pretty much a one party state, Repub, as far as the governor and the legislature. The guv is too arrogant or chickenshit to even hold regular press conferences over Covid since the first couple months of Covid.

In 1989, the minimum wage was around $3.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 31, 2020:

Except they aren't philanthropists, they are more like unwilling slaves..

The safety officer can be bribed with high quality chicken of the sea.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 30, 2020:

That cat looks like it's hardly missed any meals..

Damaged by some "serious pussy"! [fox5ny.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 30, 2020:

Sometimes stupidity has its serious consequences. Usually the consequences are small. I hope the animal was not punished with death for this idiot's mistake.

Another case of extreme police brutality.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 29, 2020:

That pig needs to be hung by his balls and then sent swinging by them...

What's the difference between republicans and democrats? Lip Service

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 29, 2020:

I always say that the diff between the major parties, in how they treat the average American peasant, is the Repubs tell you straight up that they are going to fuck you in the ass, while the Dems smile in your face and say they are on your side right before they fuck you in the ass. Also, the Dems will sometimes use a lubricant while the Repubs never do...

They've voted, have you?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 29, 2020:

If it weren't for Covid, I would be voting in person like usual. Since Iowa is not an open carry state, I don't need to worry about armed idiots like these showing up in public trying to intimidate people. But if it were different here and there wasn't Covid, I would not be afraid of them showing up outside my polling place. In fact, because I love to confront assholes in public, I would probably mouth off to them about their needing to carry guns to make up for their insecurity about their manhood, as long as there were witnesses around. My attitude would be " I don't think you've got the balls to shoot me in front of witnesses while I'm unarmed". I think it would be good if more people called their bluff openly in front of others. Because I know that even in my town that, as a white man, they would not be able to get away scot free for shooting an unarmed white man, even if there was an argument. In the south, it would probably be different, but here they should be called out for their empty threat.

The socialism debate...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 29, 2020:

Confuse not the minds of the ignorant, they'll only hate you for it. In other words, you won't reach or be able to change their minds any more than you could a simple dog or cat. All you'll get for it is grief and possibly assault. I also agree with prometheus below, the political thinking of most people, as well as their musical tastes, are usually just a matter of what environment or system they are born into and raised in. Rural and southern Americans end up liking country music. Urban and coastal white Americans end up liking rock and other more urban genres. With music or politics, most people never change from their origins unless they leave their original environment or get a lot of exposure to new thinking or music thru personal relationships later on in their lives that influence them.

This is sickening, I had no idea that Harrison Arkansas was this bad. [youtu.be]

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 29, 2020:

What do you expect from a region that is mostly made up of inbred, dumb, ignorant hillbillies? Nice to see the abundance of Christian love on display, since I'm sure the vast majority of these assholes attend church regularly. Makes me appreciate Iowa, tho I'm sure if I held up a BLM sign in my town, the response wouldn't be that much better.

I turned off the fireplace. Malbec is not pleased.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 28, 2020:

Let the shivering and teeth chattering begin...

Watch before claims of foreign interference in USA elections see this video removed from ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 28, 2020:

I love hearing that new term, ratfuckery....

Breonna Taylor grand jurors say police actions were 'negligent' and 'criminal' but were NOT given ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 28, 2020:

Glad the grand jury members were able to speak out. It shows that the fix was in from the beginning, which is what I suspected was going on there after there was no action on the case even long after the shooting.

My mother was a devout catholic.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 28, 2020:

Sounds like she was smart enough to know that donating would be throwing good money after bad..

84-year-old Ohio man assaulted for having Biden campaign sign in yard

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 28, 2020:

He should have just shot the guy for tresspassing before he could beat him up. Maybe next time that's what he'll do.

How to repackage a cat:

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 27, 2020:

The way they are able to bend and contort, you'd swear that cats have no bones, at least not spines..

This is the future, and little can be done to change it.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 27, 2020:

I already found the same thing in Andrew Yang's book, The War On Normal People. Looks like about two thirds of Americans will become useless, in the terms of heartless economics, by the next decade or so. After that, we will either have to have a UBI or we will have riots and maybe revolution, most likely violent. He talks about so many things that our corporate media and politicians, with the exception of Yang's prez run, refuse to discuss.

We all like the couch by the fireplace.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 27, 2020:

Cats are like heat-seeking missiles.

This article serves as a good example of what non-bigoted people living in rural America have to ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 26, 2020:

Nothing new here. Back in the Sixties a teacher in Iowa did a lesson in her elementary school class called Brown Eyes/Blue Eyes, in which she divided the class into two groups to teach about prejudice. She encountered the same kind of treatment in her rural area, but decades later she was honored as a hero.

Hitchhiker cat that went missing more than two years ago is finally reunited with its owner | Daily ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 26, 2020:

Cats like adventures..

Dammit Jasper!!!! Someone found the halloween decorations in the basement.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 26, 2020:

Jasper must have been bored. Glad he found something to play with.

The side that gets violent is the side that loses. What Can You Do If Trump Stages a Coup?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 25, 2020:

We on the left have been losing every prez election since 1964, but the radicals on our side soon gave up armed struggle in the late Seventies. On the other hand, the violent radicals on the right have been active most of the time ever since the left gave up violence.

Well, I guess my seat in Hell, IF there is even such a place, is most definitely booked after ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 25, 2020:

You are way naughtier and ambitious than I am. When I want to screw with people's heads, I just say something puzzling off the cuff and watch the reaction. I wouldn't concoct a whole ruse like you did to send them on a snipe hunt. I'm too lazy and happy to settle for giving them a moment of discomfort at most. Well played, sir..

If Amy Barrett were an honorable woman and fit to be a Supreme Court justice, she would decline the ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 25, 2020:

How many years did it take you to realize that the Repubs in congress quit acting honorably as a party decades ago? That's like expecting snakes to not bite..

Some of the best songs to sing along with everybody else in the bar... RIP Jerry Jeff Walker !

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 24, 2020:

Sorry, but I hate all country music. He was probably a good guy, in spite of being a country singer.

Happy Caturday, fellow fanatics! My son is visiting for a stint and brought the cat that he took ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 24, 2020:

No surprise that they're both napping. What else would indoor cats be doing if not eating or using the litter box?

Arlo Guthrie is retiring due to health reasons.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 23, 2020:

I was always wondering if he would develop Huntington's like his father. Glad he didn't and glad to hear he is putting his health and self care above his career.

Make the Human Clean Again

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 21, 2020:

Naughty, bad kitty. No treats for you!

For reasons unknown, Trump says Biden 'should be in jail'

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 20, 2020:

Simply more of Trump's own projecting of his own behavior onto others.

[rockfans.net] Janis Joplin singing Bobby Mcgee-written by Kris Kristofferson?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 20, 2020:

Even tho I have always been big on Joplin, I have always loathed that song and Mercedes Benz, her two worst songs. The latter because it's merely a trite a capella ditty that she composed herself, little that there was to it. The former song because it was not at all like the rest of her songs, which were soul style. It's sad and ironic that Bobby McGee was really a country song, even with her version, and that's probably why it was by far her most popular song, tho to me it's not really a Janis song. I groan and cringe whenever it's sung at karaoke shows, because it's the only song of hers I ever hear sung and it's always sung by people who really aren't fans of hers as they never know any of her other songs when I ask them if they could sing any of the several other, much better songs of hers that are in the karaoke songbook. Slop for the swine, as far I'm concerned, as these people have no appreciation of what made Janis great and the unique artist she was. Most likely Bobby McGee is the only song of hers they've ever heard or like, so to me they are really not fans of hers at all, just mainstream music rubes who have no good taste in music at all. The kind of people who are probably happy listening to about any top 40 mainstream radio station.

Here’s a good question for the group: (my answer is yes and it was one of the most difficult ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2020:

Nope. But I've been dumped by someone I was in love with.

Newsweek: Every Major Republican to Speak Out Against Trump Just Days Before Election

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2020:

The rats are beginning to flee the sinking ship.

WAIT, WHAT?

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2020:

I won't be surprised if Trump is let off the hook by Biden and the Dem leaders in congress, the same way Nixon was pardoned and both Cheney and W. were left alone by Obama. Expect the usual BS excuse if Biden wins that, " We have to look forward, etc..." That's why I hate the Dem party, they are never up for revenge the way the Repubs are, and that's why so much of the voters scorn and have no respect for them. Because at least the Repubs are not pussies when it comes to playing hardball and they can always be counted on to be vindictive...

Being single can be so boring 😉 nobody sends me goodmorning texts anymore lol

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2020:

Join the fucking club... I rarely even get phone calls these days.

I keep running across people who are strangely under the impression that the Nazis were socialists.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 19, 2020:

What did you expect, that the Nazis would be truthful instead and call themselves fascists?

[youtube.com] Saturday night live

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 18, 2020:

I was hoping they would have a sketch about the Barret hearings, but I suppose we may not get one of that. Next Sat. the political sketch will probably be about the final debate, if it happens. If it doesn't then we will get a Barret sketch.

Gov. Whitmer Responds To 'Lock Her Up' Chants At Trump Rally : NPR

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 18, 2020:

I wonder how Trump will feel if Biden wins and crowds at Biden rallies and BLM protests chart chanting "Lock him up" regarding the criminal charges he has coming for his financial dealings? Probably won't consider that to be "fun"... In fact, being the hypocrite that he is, he will undoubtedly call that behavior treasonous, call the chanters "traitors to America" and urge Barr to have them prosecuted.

Cat Lovers are special people

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 18, 2020:

There is already a Feline Fanatics group here on Agnostic. That would seem to be enough.

As an atheist, i've been thinking about this for a while now.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 18, 2020:

I can only guess about the motives of black people that are members of Christian churches, but it's important to remember that black churches have historically functioned as much or more as institutions of mutual aid and organization for black communities than as religious centers. As far back as in slavery days, the black churches were the one situation where slaves could gather together in the absence of white people and in their church gatherings would often communicate with each other about news of the country, the Civil War, escape from slavery, etc. They would communicate in code much of the time because the slave owners would usually make sure the black preacher they brought in for services was loyal to the slave owners. To this day, many black churches are more about being centers of mutual aid, political organizing, and such than about religion for their communities.

Donald Trump says he might leave US if he loses to Joe Biden | The Independent

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 17, 2020:

That would be rich and just if he ended up living in exile. Better would be him having to face trial, conviction, and imprisonment (even in Club Fed) for his white collar crimes.

Just a reminder.

TomMcGiverin comments on Oct 17, 2020:

Yes, it does, Precious....