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I'm curious what the group thinks on this issue.

BitFlipper comments on Jan 22, 2021:

There's an old saying: "man chases woman until she catches him". Technology doesn't seem to have changed that.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 22, 2021:

No shit. I do think tho, that it probably varies some depending on where you live. Here in the rather traditional culture state of Iowa, even around the Des Moines area, people are so traditionally cultured that the women expect the men to pursue. Even the women that grew up somewhere more progressive. It's just a matter of how the water flows and people adapting to the mainstream in most cases. If a woman doesn't like it, she can always take the initiative and get delighted responses from men, providing she is smart enough to explain that she isn't promiscuous or desperate.

What's the first thing Biden and the democrats do after taking over?

Zoltans_Queen comments on Jan 22, 2021:

I love Kyle. He has really been speaking passionately lately. He's not holding anything back. And I'm not surprised that Joe went back on his promise. That was predictable, unfortunately.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 22, 2021:

Just the opening move in four years of Obama style happy talk and focus on identity politics, but no action to benefit or improve the lives of the masses. Which will be payed back in four years or less with pissed off working class whites voting Repub in anger at the Dems betraying them, once again. People are too smart to buy the same old excuse of blaming the Repubs, because they've seen this movie too many times.. The Dems really don't care if most people quit voting, they are counting on it as long as they can continue to win some of the time with squeaker margins. If Dems actually tried to improve the lives of working class and poor people, they could win in huge landslides, but they will never do that because they love that corporate campaign money too much..

What's the first thing Biden and the democrats do after taking over?

altschmerz comments on Jan 21, 2021:

I hope he's right about the Republicans being at each other's throats, because *both* the Trumpers *and* the establishment-types are bloody fucking awful and I want to see the GOP go down in flames! Then maybe another party, a GOOD one, can take its place, and force the Democrats to shape up, ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 22, 2021:

Exactly. And those non-voters are the people who would vote for Bernie if he ever got the Dem nomination or went third party. The figures I saw for this last election were 80 million eligible voters who checked out, 78 million for Biden, and 71 million for Trump.

My cousin posts this on FB! Let's see next year on this day.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 21, 2021:

Me thinks the cousin on FB is most likely an upper middle class white male with a job that currently is not in danger of outsourcing or automation, so, of course, life with Trump seemed good for him...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 21, 2021:

@Secretguy Actually, I got a degree in Sociology from a state university and was making an educated guess. The cousin the OP is talking about appears to be voting against her own self interest and fell for the Trump lies in order to do so.

My cousin posts this on FB! Let's see next year on this day.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 21, 2021:

Me thinks the cousin on FB is most likely an upper middle class white male with a job that currently is not in danger of outsourcing or automation, so, of course, life with Trump seemed good for him...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 21, 2021:

@dave1459 I stand corrected, but she's still full of shit to think Trump was great for the country.

This sign is in my front yard (although right now there is also snow).

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 20, 2021:

Depends on how much vandalism and harassment you are interested in experiencing. They may also vandalize your house, not just the sign.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 20, 2021:

@creative51 It's your life and your property. I'm surrounded by Repubs and conservative Christians in my condo development, so even if the homeowner's association did not prohibit political signs, it would not be worth it to me to provoke them to hassle me. My only desire is to be left alone by and not hassled by my neighbors. I avoid and ignore them as much as possible, so I already have that anti-social reputation. But why bother when almost none of them are college educated, politically liberal, or at all intellectual? I've already had enough small talk about the weather to last a lifetime, so I don't need to bother pretending with them that I have any interest in them. I just use this as a place to live, nothing more...

Local Crazy Train I am trying to refrain from posting anything on Facebook that might cause ...

Wangobango3 comments on Jan 20, 2021:

The trouble is, some people actually believe that insanity. They will have to be deprogrammed.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 20, 2021:

Unfortunately the law does not allow you to kidnap, imprison, and deprogram them. Absent that, I will settle for Covid killing them off. Less trouble and grief, more efficient...

A beautiful metaphor and an accurate formula for living.

AnonySchmoose comments on Jan 20, 2021:

Excellent metaphor! I've mostly felt that competition as a way of life is unfair, because not everybody has an equal chance to benefit. That is not to say that competition in sports, contests, games, etc. is unfair. But to base an entire nation on the spirit of competition probably sets up a ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 20, 2021:

I agree. Competition has its place in sports, etc. and that's fine because those are marginal things that should not and do not determine people's ability or opportunity to have a decent life or where they fall into the social and economic order. But in America competition and individualism are made into the foundations of our economic and social systems. All that does is divide the masses against each other and insure that the ruling class stays on top while the lower classes fight for crumbs. When I was young, I participated in sports and other competitive activities and enjoyed them. I learned good things from those experiences and they were good for my character. But I was also an intellectual and I learned how toxic these concepts of extreme individualism and competition were for ordering the economy and the social order in a society. Competition for sports and harmless pastimes and activities. Socialism for economics and government. Europe has those things right and in their proper place. Too bad it didn't work out for me to live there instead of here.

Trump has never done anything for the poor.

Lorajay comments on Jan 12, 2021:

I bet they are the result of LBJ's passage of the Civil Rights Act. They no longer feel better than anyone.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 12, 2021:

On the inside, you're right, they know now they are white trash who are not any better than the colored people or immigrants they hate. But they will never admit that to anyone or show any of that shame on the outside. They're poor as dirt, but they will always cling, at least on the outside, to their belligerent pride about at least being white and Christian, rather than Muslim or atheist.

Understanding the role of Billionaire John Malone, Liberty Media and iHeartMedia (formerly Clear ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 12, 2021:

Clear Channel's programming is mostly made up of two things I hate, country music and right wing talk radio.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 12, 2021:

@Canndue You got it!

Remember when? LOL

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 11, 2021:

And yet, he was impeached, but not convicted, over that...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 12, 2021:

@josephr Lying about a blowjob is a whole other thing than lying about abuses of power and mixing foreign policy with election interference, like Trump.

Congress Votes to Arm Violent Mobs That Storm through Capitols around the World

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 11, 2021:

No surprise here. The US, thru the CIA, has been funding and supporting coups in lots of countries, usually in Latin America, for over almost a century.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 12, 2021:

@Canndue You're a sick man, but we share a similar sense of humor....

Atheists most politically active group in US, survey finds - The Christian Post

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 11, 2021:

Probably because they have to be, to protect themselves from the discrimination and harassment they experience from bigots and the religious.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 12, 2021:

@CuddyCruiser I mainly encountered it at the workplace, and there was no getting away from it as long as I needed to work. Now that I'm retired, that problem is solved.

I would definitely call this a surprise.

Pralina1 comments on Jan 11, 2021:

U mean my taxes won’t pay for his all organic expensive food .

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 11, 2021:

I doubt he's very gung ho about paying his taxes, most Trumpers aren't, esp. their leader. I'll bet his fellow Trumpers think he's a sissy for eating only organi foods.

How do you feel about Parler being removed from the Internet?

FearlessFly comments on Jan 10, 2021:

Please describe how a private company deciding not to host another company's website after terms of service were violated is censorship again ? How is that not simple capitalism?

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 10, 2021:

@Admin So I assume you are also perfectly comfortable with how a handful of media conglomerates own over 90% of all the mass media (newspapers, radio, and TV stations), which all have a pro-corporate, anti-labor, bias in favor of the ruling class and a clear hatred of any groups which are for economic equality? That kind of imbalance and monopoly are ok? Just checking.....Since they are all private companies, they can do what they want, etc. I am not ok with that status quo, but the only way it can be reformed is thru govt. regulation, which I doubt you are ok with, even tho I certainly am... We still have anti- trust laws on the books, it's just that with two corrupt, corporate-owned major parties, they never get enforced anymore....

I am not one for conspiracy theories but this struck me.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 9, 2021:

See the other post with the BuzzfeedNews article.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 9, 2021:

@273kelvin Just check the Politics threads for a post that has a BuzzfeedNews link. You're sharp enough to find it. I'm not going to spoon feed you. Hint: An Organized Strike Disguised As A Protest.

On the phone today with my longtime religious friend, we talked of January 6th and everything ...

Detritus comments on Jan 9, 2021:

What happened on December 6?

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 9, 2021:

That happened to be my 62nd B-day, but I'm pretty sure the OP meant Jan. 6.

You have the FBI asking the public for help in arresting these people.

redhog comments on Jan 9, 2021:

Theyre covering all the bases. If there is any justice left i. This country every single one of those people will go to sleep one night and wake up in guantanamo bay cuba with the other terrorists we've been stockpiling there since 9/11. That includes Trump, Hawley, Cruz and the other ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 9, 2021:

@redhog Oh, would I love to see Trump water-boarded, but not as much as I would savor it happening to Cheney...

You have the FBI asking the public for help in arresting these people.

redhog comments on Jan 9, 2021:

Theyre covering all the bases. If there is any justice left i. This country every single one of those people will go to sleep one night and wake up in guantanamo bay cuba with the other terrorists we've been stockpiling there since 9/11. That includes Trump, Hawley, Cruz and the other ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 9, 2021:

I would love to see every one of the Gitmo'd, but it'll never happen to any of them.

You have the FBI asking the public for help in arresting these people.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 9, 2021:

They're probably just going thru the motions and are under orders to not actually find and arrest anyone.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 9, 2021:

@VineetHonkan My statement is clear and self evident. I'm not going to bother explaining to you, troll...

What strikes me most is how bold and brazen the terrorists were.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 9, 2021:

Why should they act any different? They know they have white privilege and on top of that, they have Trump and many congressional Repubs on their side. So what did they have to fear? They know nothing is likely to happen to them even after they left the capital. They are politically above the law ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 9, 2021:

I believe the capital police, at the command level, were involved in a large conspiracy that went all the way up to Trump, and some of the rioters, no doubt, were aware of this conspiracy on their side, so they knew they would be treated lightly by most, if not all, of the law enforcement and military at the capital.

Plans are being fomented online for further attacks, those in charge of security cant be trusted.

Theresa_N comments on Jan 9, 2021:

And attacks like this will continue as long as we aren't trying these people for sedition.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 9, 2021:

Exactly. We need actual deterrence thru punishment, not empty words of condemnation.

There are still way too many crazies.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 8, 2021:

If they do show up, I demand that the cops and military treat them like BLM and immediately use tear gas, water cannons and start cracking heads if they even try to move past the barricades. Followed by mass arrests, prosecutions, and jail time. Time for some equal treatment, which is what's needed ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

@BTHT We'll see. I'm not holding my breath...

There are still way too many crazies.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 8, 2021:

If they do show up, I demand that the cops and military treat them like BLM and immediately use tear gas, water cannons and start cracking heads if they even try to move past the barricades. Followed by mass arrests, prosecutions, and jail time. Time for some equal treatment, which is what's needed ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

@BTHT I hope they do have those snipers there and ready for the inauguration. And that if they do show up armed and seem ready to shoot others, then shoot them if appropriate. If these fucks want a war, then give them one and treat them as the enemies of the government that they are.

This is fairly bizarre.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 8, 2021:

No surprise here. I would like to punch every one of these smug fucks, women included, right in the mouth.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

@powder That too, as long as I didn't get caught...I would try to make sure I didn't actually harm anyone, just scare the shit out of each of them. That thought would give me a lot of satisfaction, to know I had terrified them without suffering any consequences for it. I know it would drive them mad if I got away with it. For a mere filthy peasant to get away with terrorizing them..

There's a lot of ass covering going on in the MSCM today.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 8, 2021:

True, I am not in favor of police brutality, but at the same time I am sick of the double standard of kid glove, supportive policing of right wing groups and brutal aggression against left wing groups. And one part of that would be some teachable moments of right wing groups getting to experience ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

@William_Mary The 3/4 of our population are sheeple that are convinced that either the Dems will save them or that third parties could never be a way out of our duopoly's problems. They could be a way out, but not until enough people believe in them as an alternative and give up on the Dems.

Headlines read "Angry Pence.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 8, 2021:

I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Biden has already indicated he will follow the Obama playbook of "Looking forward, not backward". No surprise at all to me, as Biden is too gutless and corrupt to do the right thing, ensure there are consequences, and deter future wrongdoing..

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

@Canndue Don't waste your energy on Biden. I won't. He's too corrupt and gutless to be moved on anything that his rich donors and the DNC are not behind.

I narc’d on my FB friend who was in DC yesterday.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Has she ever had an MRI to see she has a brain? The lowest form of human being are Donny Dimwits followers.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

@K9Kohle789 Yes, lots of people will overlook stupidity if it's in a cute package, meaning a good-looking person.

I narc’d on my FB friend who was in DC yesterday.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Has she ever had an MRI to see she has a brain? The lowest form of human being are Donny Dimwits followers.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

@Unicorn1824 Good looks makes the world go round. Amazing how many people end up getting out of just about anything because of their looks.

If money is speech, then the legacy of Mitch McConnell should be the burden of Trump & Republican ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 7, 2021:

None of these choices are fitting.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 8, 2021:

I just don't see any way to force people to accept the sort of agenda you support, not in a free society. What you are proposing is something like China's policies on social engineering, like their one child policy to reduce population, where they would punish those who didn't comply by denying them financial support from the government as well as limiting their access to jobs, etc. Even that didn't work with everyone as people would find ways to get around it by killing any female babies so they could have another one that they hoped would be male. I don't want to live in a totalitarian society like that.

Buckle up DC, it's not over.

KKGator comments on Jan 7, 2021:

If they show up, I hope they regret it. I won't mourn a single one of them. They won't deserve it. Actually, I hope the lot of them get taken out. With extreme prejudice. By the REAL military.