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Novelty comments on Feb 26, 2020:
There was a tv show in reruns about a pow camp in wwii where the Germans are completely incompetent. In real life the US seems to fill the role the Germans did in the show. As a citizen it’s embarrassing. With all the conservative failures one wonders why anyone hands these idiots the ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 26, 2020:
When I look back on it today, Hogan's Heroes seems like a sitcom that would never get on the air, but it probably helped that back then, in the 1960s, America was way more hopeful and carefree, so the premise of the show was not that jarring...Back then America was the confident 600 lbs. gorilla in the world, instead of now being a fearful, belligerent empire in decline...
I miss church.
Marionville comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Join a choir and you’ll get the singing and the community...supposing you can actually sing of course! You won’t be restricted to singing hymns either, but a real variety of music. You can also volunteer at one of the local charities, I do at a food bank, but there are other charities where ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@Marionville Believe me, I have done the research in my area. Iowa is pretty backward and conservative culturally. The closest thing we have in my area to a choir singing what I like is a gay men's choir that, stereotypically, sings mostly showtunes, which I am not into.. A choir that sang Sixties tunes would be wonderful for me, but it ain't happening here and not likely to ever happen while I am alive.... There are choirs around the US like what you describe, just not in central Iowa. If I wanted to move hundreds of miles away to Chicago or Minneapolis, even, I am sure I could find something like that, but it's not worth it to me to relocate just to have a choir to sing in....Karaoke is my substitute, where I sing what I want to when I want to...On the on the other hand, with karaoke I have to put up with listening to the bad singers and all the country music, which I hate, that is sung by a good number of the singers at any given karaoke show...
I miss church.
Marionville comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Join a choir and you’ll get the singing and the community...supposing you can actually sing of course! You won’t be restricted to singing hymns either, but a real variety of music. You can also volunteer at one of the local charities, I do at a food bank, but there are other charities where ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
I used to sing in choirs all during my school years and nowadays I get my singing fix at karaoke shows. Joining a choir might work for most, but I am very picky about what kinds of music I want to sing, the same as most of us are particular about what types of sermons or programs we would want to listen to. For me, joining a choir would have to be one that only performed pop or rock music, like in that movie Young At Heart, about the choir for senior citizens. Since that is never going to happen in Iowa, even in my local area of Des Moines, I am done with choirs. I have no desire to spend my time rehearsing and performing music that bores or does not interest me, while all the while having no say in the selection of music for the choir, which is how almost all of them operate anyway....
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@Athena I'm surprised you aren't with NDP or the Greens, but I suppose those two parties are too minor to have any power in Canada.
WOW...So true!!!
Spudgun comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Actually, that's not true. Cats are smarter than dogs, and they are able to learn tricks, understand a considerable number of words (not only English, but other languages as well, same as dogs), and use deductive reasoning. I teach cats how to do High Fives, Sit, Spin, Jump through Hoops, High Tens,...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
I'm not surprised to hear that. My guess is that most cats just don't give a shit and that's why they appear to be less intelligent and trainable than dogs. Cats would rather nap than learn tricks...
Bernie Could Win it All
RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:
At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@mordant I would like to see those changes you are predicting because we really need a major party in the US that is on the side of workers. You're right that Europe is so much more rational and lefty than the US. My guess is the reason for that is Europeans are better educated and more politically conscious than Americans, along with the fact that their media is more diverse and less of a corporate propaganda machine than we have here. Hence, they are harder to fool into voting against their own class interests.
Bernie Could Win it All
RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:
At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@RoboGraham Exactly. He was a moderate Repub pretending to be a Dem. As Bill Maher rightly said about Obama, he was W in blackface...
Bernie Could Win it All
RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:
At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@mordant Bernie is a repudiation of how lame Obama was as prez. Even when he had a supermajority in congress, Obama didn't even try to pass legislation on card check, which would have made it so much easier to join a union in workplaces, which tells you all you need to know about whether Obama was on the side of workers or instead was on the side of business and the rich. Bernie was actually thinking of running against Obama in 2012 in the primaries because of how much of a corporate sellout Obama was.
Bernie Could Win it All
mordant comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Sanders has greatly expanded the electorate by bringing first time and typically indifferent voters into the process with policies that excite them. These are the young, the minorities, the poor, LGBTQ, uninsured / underinsured, working class people who generally sit out elections and in fact often ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
The reason why Sanders brings in these groups of people you mentioned, who usually don't vote, is because he speaks to people who have been ignored by the major parties and who have otherwise given up hope on the political process. Because these people have seen little difference between the two parties of the duopoly and that neither party would fight on their behalf for economic justice and against the power of the rich and corporations. Notice how none of the other Dem candidates will even mention poverty in America and even Bernie says little about it either. Shows how much the Dems have moved away from their historical role as the party that was on the side of the poor and working class. Nowadays the other Dems only mention the middle class, nobody else, in their speeches as far as economic classes. This began with Obama.
Should Billionaires be taxed at an extra high rate to even out our income discrepancy?
RoboGraham comments on Feb 23, 2020:
Relying on them to donate to charity out of the kindness of their hearts is inadequate. One does not become a billionaire by being generous and I doubt they bother to give to charities for reasons other than positive PR and the tax breaks that charitable donations provide. Many struggling ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
As long as Americans have to pawn their dignity anytime they get catastrophically ill and hit up their friends and neighbors with begging for help thru fundraisers for their medical bills, there is something seriously wrong with our current system of depending on the rich to provide charity for others when and if they feel like it, instead of paying their fair share of taxes so we have an adequate safety net for all. Same thing with the lack of housing for the homeless. It is a shameful embarrassment for our country, but then again, most of the rich have neither shame or real patriotism. Their loyalty is only to money and their own class...
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
Cutiebeauty comments on Feb 23, 2020:
People are sick of trump and probably think Bernie was robbed last time..
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@RoboGraham We hope..
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Athena What happened to the Liberal Democratic Party? Maybe I was thinking of the New Democratic Party. Are they still around?
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Athena So is that LDP, or some other party?
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Athena Do you vote for the LDP in Canada? Just curious...
Who will win the next election . Trump or Sanders ?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 23, 2020:
Whoa there.. It's a little bit early for that kind of predicting. Maybe later, if Bernie officially has the nomination. Right now it's too early to even know how much, if any, support Bernie would get from the Dem Party or see how much the media is going to go against him as a nominee. I will know a...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Astonvilla1 Bloomberg himself has plenty of money to campaign all the way to the convention, regardless of how well he does, as well as enough ego to continue no matter how bad he might be losing. We will need at least a couple more months to see how it goes.
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
RoboGraham comments on Feb 22, 2020:
He did very well with people of color and women, so much for that "Bernie Bro" narrative.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@RoboGraham I think Bernie's two biggest strengths are that people can see he is authentic, unlike almost any other DC pol. Secondly, he can't be bought, which is also just about as unique. Bloomberg attacked him for having three homes and being a millionaire, but even that is not going to look hypocritical or corrupt compared to how all the other pols have records of having sold out in ways that are very extreme and clearly corrupt, like having been lobbyists or working for corporations.
Things NOT to put on your profile 3 times widow - WLTM guy into wild mushrooms - Object marriage...
itsmedammit comments on Feb 22, 2020:
But what if one is thrice widowed?!?! I have a friend who who lost two boyfriends to small airplane crashes.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
Small plane crashes? Were they both lefty politicians? I thought those kind of crashes only happened to them..
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
I totally agree with that. The rest are way too corrupted and out of touch with the 99%.
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
RoboGraham comments on Feb 22, 2020:
He did very well with people of color and women, so much for that "Bernie Bro" narrative.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
@RoboGraham I agree. Right now Trump is threatening that in a general election he would beat Bernie over the head with red-baiting him, but I don't think that would work either. It's kind of like what the establishment did with Nader, who, like Bernie, is a squeaky clean boy scout, that they have to label him as a kook, eccentric, or a commie, because they've got nothing else, esp. if his policies are popular with most Americans, which they are. The American people are progressive enough on policy to vote for Bernie, it's the media and party leadership that are not progressive at all on Bernie's issues. The people seem to be waking up to this on some level. I also want to comment on WallStreet Pete..... What an asshole.. He loses to Bernie by over 20 points and yet he spends the majority of his post-caucus speech bashing Bernie. This smarmy, arrogant, little twerp has no class whatsoever, and, after his debate performance acting like an ass towards Klobuchar, I think people will start to see that about him...
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
Novelty comments on Feb 22, 2020:
I'm still supporting Warren, I'm suspicious of post like this because Russian bots are pushing Bernie for some weird reason, but I'll be dance happy if either she or Bernie win.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
@RoboGraham They can try, but I don't think it will stick or work, esp. with young people. The young are beyond caring about labels. They know they are up against a rigged economy and system, so they will support whoever is willing to fight for them, regardless of labels.
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
RoboGraham comments on Feb 22, 2020:
He did very well with people of color and women, so much for that "Bernie Bro" narrative.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
Exactly! I am so fucking sick of that false narrative and phony charges of that to smear Bernie...
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
Novelty comments on Feb 22, 2020:
I'm still supporting Warren, I'm suspicious of post like this because Russian bots are pushing Bernie for some weird reason, but I'll be dance happy if either she or Bernie win.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
I think the reports about the Russians are pushing Bernie is just propaganda from the DNC, the corporate media, and/or the Trump campaign because they want to smear Bernie with that combined with the label of him as a communist. I am optimistic that it will not work, because most people have become very suspicious about these kind of accusations ever since Hillary tried to blame her loss four years ago on Russian interference rather than her own faults and unpopularity for being corrupt and dishonest...
Dick Van Dyke Endorses Bernie Sanders for President - YouTube
AstralSmoke comments on Feb 22, 2020:
Wow, I didn't even know he was still alive.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
Van Dyke has been kind of a mysterious figure in the entertainment world for a long time because of his problems with alcohol. His drinking has often caused him to disappear for long periods of time from appearing in public or working as an actor while he was either in rehab or on a bender...
UPDATED: cropped her face.
Lorajay comments on Feb 21, 2020:
I bet she's popular in your geographical area.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
In Kansas she would be. They're pretty much all hicks and Bible-thumpers....
I’m afraid what’s going to happen is Bernie is going to go into the convention with a ...
glennlab comments on Feb 21, 2020:
We have not had enough primaries to even dent the delegate totals, 50 out of 2000 roughly, after March 3, we should have a clear leader. I have seen this same argument in every contested primary season, so keep your chin up, I believe we will prevail.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
@Rudy1962 The old saying goes, " Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you (or in this case, Bernie)"...
I’m afraid what’s going to happen is Bernie is going to go into the convention with a ...
Athena comments on Feb 21, 2020:
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-leads-all-10-national-polls-released-this-week-ahead-nevada-caucuses-1488141 Bernie has a lot of supporters who will march in the streets of Washington if he doesn't win this nomination. The Democrats had better be prepared to have the party eviscerated, in...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
@Athena I hope you are right. We will see..
Here Are The Billionaires Funding The Democratic Presidential Candidates
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 21, 2020:
No surprises there. Bernie is the only one who can't be bought...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
@1of5 Time for your block, troll. I've had enough of your attacks.
I’m afraid what’s going to happen is Bernie is going to go into the convention with a ...
Athena comments on Feb 21, 2020:
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-leads-all-10-national-polls-released-this-week-ahead-nevada-caucuses-1488141 Bernie has a lot of supporters who will march in the streets of Washington if he doesn't win this nomination. The Democrats had better be prepared to have the party eviscerated, in...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
The problem is, Athena, is that I truly believe the Dem leaders and establishment, who make up the superdelegates that will vote in the second ballot of a convention, would much rather lose again to Trump than let Bernie get the nomination. I also believe they are even willing to risk letting the party blow up rather than nominate Bernie.
If you think you are safe with these emerging 5G networks think again!!! Please take the time to ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 20, 2020:
Is this saying the microwave energy from cellphones is harmful to our bodies and/or brains?
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 20, 2020:
@of-the-mountain Just lazy I guess. I didn't bother to click on the link for the story because I rarely use cellphones and wasn't that interested in the story. If some story doesn't seem to apply much to me, I move on. I don't need your approval to do so..
Christian parents sue their school district to force it to out trans kids / LGBTQ Nation
NoPlanetB comments on Feb 20, 2020:
Oh hell no!!! Fuck that shit. Every student should stand up and claim they are transgendered.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 20, 2020:
" I am Spartacus"...
Has rump just thrown the election in November2020???
Paracosm comments on Feb 19, 2020:
I've seen a lot of news coverage and discussion about it. Unfortunately many trump supporters are calling it fake news or are blaming democrats somehow.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 20, 2020:
@1of5 You keep track of your own ego and I will do me. We're done here, unless you also want to be blocked...Interesting that RoboGraham says the same things here as me, but you don't attack him.
Has rump just thrown the election in November2020???
Paracosm comments on Feb 19, 2020:
I've seen a lot of news coverage and discussion about it. Unfortunately many trump supporters are calling it fake news or are blaming democrats somehow.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 20, 2020:
@1of5 I'll say whatever I want. Who are you to be the thought police?
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Buddha comments on Feb 18, 2020:
Well take any vote for Bernie... we sure don't need a biden or Bloomberg..
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 20, 2020:
@Athena At this point, I totally agree that Biden is toast, but for Bloomberg it's still too early to tell about his chances. I hope you are right about him too.
Tonight's Nevada debate seemed the most lively and interesting one so far.
Darthpug comments on Feb 20, 2020:
Whatever momentum that Bloomberg had is gone. He looked stiff, uninteresting, and unemotional. It will be interesting to see what the polls will be like now.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 20, 2020:
Not sure I agree about Bloomberg's performance, but I am very interested in how his next poll numbers look.
Has rump just thrown the election in November2020???
Paracosm comments on Feb 19, 2020:
I've seen a lot of news coverage and discussion about it. Unfortunately many trump supporters are calling it fake news or are blaming democrats somehow.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 20, 2020:
@1of5 The Dems are really more of a fake opposition party than a real one, esp. on issues like taxes, war, and the military.
Extreme left. Everybody should have healthcare.
TheInterlooper comments on Feb 19, 2020:
Yeah, leftists have never attacked Trump supporters with a cane sword, drove their car through a Republican voter tent, or attempted to fire bomb an ice detention center. The most extreme position they can take is wanting free healthcare.🙉🙈🙊
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 19, 2020:
@TheInterlooper I have. They do not use violence, to my knowledge.
Extreme left. Everybody should have healthcare.
TheInterlooper comments on Feb 19, 2020:
Yeah, leftists have never attacked Trump supporters with a cane sword, drove their car through a Republican voter tent, or attempted to fire bomb an ice detention center. The most extreme position they can take is wanting free healthcare.🙉🙈🙊
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 19, 2020:
Leftists haven't used violence for protest since the early 1980s.
While I have no interest in Bloomberg as a potential nominee, I'm glad he made it to the stage for ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 19, 2020:
I find it the height of irony that the DNC is so determined to stop Bernie that they are openly trying to force a Repub, who is not that different from Trump, on us as the nominee. It shows how unbelievably corrupt the party has become. I blame both the DNC and Bloomberg himself, as he is trying to ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 19, 2020:
@prometheus Oh, do I wish the US had publicly funded election campaigns with free TV air time and also a limit on the length of campaigns, but it will never happen here. So instead we have the legalized bribery of campaign contributions from the rich and corporations. That is the root of our political problems, we are a plutocracy, not a democracy...
Bloomberg-Clinton 2020
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 15, 2020:
That pairing would be a sure loss in the general. Too many people, including me, hate Hillary and would not vote for her. Bloomberg would never seriously consider her as a running mate.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 17, 2020:
@twshield Articles I have read online.
Bloomberg-Clinton 2020
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 15, 2020:
That pairing would be a sure loss in the general. Too many people, including me, hate Hillary and would not vote for her. Bloomberg would never seriously consider her as a running mate.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 17, 2020:
@twshield From what I have heard, both Bloomberg and Trump have been starting to buy off black leaders to help them get black votes. Trump has also been giving away money at events targeting black people. Reminds me of when union leaders are bought off by management or politicians that are actually working against the interests of the union rank and file.
Bloomberg-Clinton 2020
mordant comments on Feb 15, 2020:
A racist, misogynist plutocrat indistinguishable from Trump, paired with the candidate who lost to Trump last time? What could possibly go wrong? Hell ... Bloomberg was a Democrat, then a Republican, then an independent, now a Democrat again. He has no beliefs. He just joins the party that he ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 16, 2020:
@mordant You've got that right...
Bloomberg-Clinton 2020
mordant comments on Feb 15, 2020:
A racist, misogynist plutocrat indistinguishable from Trump, paired with the candidate who lost to Trump last time? What could possibly go wrong? Hell ... Bloomberg was a Democrat, then a Republican, then an independent, now a Democrat again. He has no beliefs. He just joins the party that he ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 15, 2020:
If the Dem leadership and establishment end up nominating a Repub to run against Trump, there will be no doubt that they would rather lose than have Bernie as prez.
Happy Valentine’s day
MichelleGar1 comments on Feb 14, 2020:
We Medicare about you too! ♥️
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 15, 2020:
Real men (or real women) don't take contributions from billionaires or sell out their souls to get elected....
TELL US IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING QUOTE, AND WHY.
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 14, 2020:
Sounds about right. It also explains everything about how the Dem leaders and establishment would rather lose again to Trump than let Bernie become prez. Because as long as Trump or some centrist Dem is prez, the establishment in both parties can go on with business as usual, enjoying their power ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 14, 2020:
@fishline79 Yes, you must not be paying attention or are naive about the system.
I discover more and more that in any group of people, there's a tendency for it to fragment.
KyleDavis comments on Feb 14, 2020:
My personal opinion of this is to mediate this we really need to prioritize a value of Equanimity in discourse. Identifying those values of common humanity. It is tough, but we are seeing more of it with the rise of things like Street epistemology, and other focus on conversations which allow ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 14, 2020:
@Omnedon Yes, I do think this. I have met very few Repub types who do not see those who seek equality and fairness as "losers" who should just shut up and be grateful for what they have as peasants.
I discover more and more that in any group of people, there's a tendency for it to fragment.
KyleDavis comments on Feb 14, 2020:
My personal opinion of this is to mediate this we really need to prioritize a value of Equanimity in discourse. Identifying those values of common humanity. It is tough, but we are seeing more of it with the rise of things like Street epistemology, and other focus on conversations which allow ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 14, 2020:
@OwlInASack Well said. You appear to be talking about Republican types, to whom decency, humanity, selflessness, and, esp. fairness, seem to be a joke. I have to avoid those people or not talk about anything meaningful that involves values, because they may as well be on a different planet from me.
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TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 13, 2020:
A great discussion of how much the corporate media these days is pure propaganda for the neoliberals and the ruling class, regardless of which corporate party they cheerlead for, as well as laying out how the whole stop Bernie movement works.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 13, 2020:
@MichaelSpinler Fox and MSNBC are two sides of the same neoliberal coin. Their only differences are in taking opposite sides in what are called the culture wars, in other words the stuff that identity politics breeds as distractions from issues that really matter like class warfare, climate change, taxation, endless war, the military budget, etc. BTW, I am a boomer, but fortunately I realized long ago that I was a socialist and that the corporate media was all bullshit as well as that corporate America and the rich were my real enemies, not foreign terrorists or immigrants...
“Study: 80% of Americans Believe Political Correctness Is a Problem” [google.
Omnedon comments on Feb 13, 2020:
Interesting. To pick just one phrase I noticed in the article... It referred to a "tell-it-like-it-is" candidate. The odd thing is that Trump is anything but. He lies with breathtaking frequency and lack of concern for the consequences. But I suppose within the strict context of PC, he may appeal to...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 13, 2020:
Of course Trump lies all the time, but a lot of angry working class whites voted for him because, unlike Hillary, he would at least validate and talk about their feelings of being left behind in the economy and ignored by the Dem party. If people have to choose between someone who ignores or dismisses their class resentment and someone who speaks to it, even if it's with lies, they will always choose the latter candidate, esp. if they are uninformed voters, which most Americans are...
Anyone else find that there are very few agnostics where you live?
Paul4747 comments on Feb 9, 2020:
There are plenty within 50 or 75 miles, but that seems a long way to ask anyone to drive for dating. Either to ask her to meet me, or me to meet her, or even meeting half way, if it were to be a regular thing. It's hard enough starting up a relationship, much less one where you only see each other ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 10, 2020:
Not in Iowa.Try more like 150 miles or more to even find a half dozen who are actual members that are still visiting the site often.
More About Pete ❧ Current Affairs
RoboGraham comments on Feb 8, 2020:
Without the media and the establishment propping him up, Pete would still be a nobody. Because they put him in the prominent position that he is now in and the fact that he has never worked to build any sort of movement of regular folks, he will be totally beholden to the powers that be and the ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 8, 2020:
That's why last night's debate was kind of a fitting symbol of the real battle, him against Bernie. Since Biden is now fading, the establishment and media need a new centrist hope to stop Bernie and for now it is Pete and Bloomberg. Warren is probably also fading and Klobuchar was never a heavyweight threat to Bernie. The fact that Pete was a military intelligence (and probably also a CIA spook) makes me opposed to him on general principle, plus his work as a corporate tool (McKinsey) makes him cozy with evil...
Trump supporters are predicting that he will win re-election.
Archeus_Lore comments on Feb 6, 2020:
Presidential elections do little to change anything, the military industrial complex still gets its money, still robs, plunders, foments coups, drones other countries with impunity. The poor get poorer and the rich get richer. No presidential election will change that.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 7, 2020:
Ironic, your lines are right out of one of my fav Leonard Cohen songs, Everbody Knows, from the 1980s.
Trump supporters are predicting that he will win re-election.
Bierbasstard comments on Feb 6, 2020:
Now your only mission is to get Democrats to vote regardless of who gets the nomination. Good luck!
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 7, 2020:
@Bierbasstard That may have been true for a small minority of them last time, but this time around I am confident that almost all of them, including me, will vote for the nominee. However, after seeing Hillary and Obama already make it clear they will not support Bernie as the nominee, no matter what, I have justifable reason to doubt that the centrists and their supporters will prove to be anything but lying hypocrites with all their talk about supporting the nominee this time. It's obvious that talk on their part about supporting the eventual nominee, no matter who, for the good of the party, etc., only applies if it it is not Bernie. They can't and shouldn't be able to have it both ways, ie, "shut up and support our choice for nominee, while all along we have no intention of supporting yours if they win the nomination.".
Trump supporters are predicting that he will win re-election.
Bierbasstard comments on Feb 6, 2020:
Now your only mission is to get Democrats to vote regardless of who gets the nomination. Good luck!
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 6, 2020:
That's the real problem. I have no doubt a united Dem Party could defeat Trump and probably would if the nominee was Bernie, if only because he could inspire a record turnout of people who normally don't vote, namely poor people who have been forgotten by both of the neoliberal corporate parties. But it's very clear that the Dem leaders and establishment would rather have another four years of Trump rather than Bernie or any other real progressive. So, like 2016, they will probably be able to rig it again and get the centrist, damaged, corrupt corporate candidate that they want, along with the same result as last time. They really mean, "we will only unite or support the nominee if it's the one WE want". At least the progressives are not hypocrites this time. I truly believe all or most of them will vote blue no matter what, even tho we will have been screwed by the Dems twice in a row...
See: factcheck.org/stateoftheunion
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 5, 2020:
With Trump the lies are so numerous and constant, that it's past the point of fact-checking, plus most people who like him on personality and support him do not and will not ever care or be swayed by whether he lies or not. I saw the same thing in the 80s with Reagan. They are fools and they cannot ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 5, 2020:
@bingst I agree with you on that. My evangelical sister and her hubby both support Trump even tho they have no illusions about his religious beliefs or personal morality being Christian. It's all about supporting anti-abortion laws and nominating judges who are anti-choice.
The Right has been emboldened.
sassygirl3869 comments on Feb 2, 2020:
Its going to get ugly -feel like we need real change. Never mind a moderate candidate! I am angry!!!!
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 3, 2020:
@sassygirl3869 It will only get worse. He will be fighting not only the rest of the party, but also the corporate media and even the Repubs running smear ads against him with PAC groups.Watch out in the rest of the debates for how the moderators will be working against him, like they already did in the Iowa debate on CNN. The bias against him was so obvious. Even in a general election debate, I promise that the moderators would favor Trump. Both parties and the media stand to lost if Bernie ends the corruption of big money in politics.
The Right has been emboldened.
sassygirl3869 comments on Feb 2, 2020:
Its going to get ugly -feel like we need real change. Never mind a moderate candidate! I am angry!!!!
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 3, 2020:
@sassygirl3869 My guess is he will win Iowa, NH, and Nevada, and then lose SC to Biden, but still do well there..I also predict the Klobuchar will drop out after either Iowa or NH if she does not finish in the top 3 in either state. She is putting all her money and effort into the first couple states.
In this world we are hearing of the evil of terrorism.
MichaelSpinler comments on Feb 3, 2020:
identity politics and religious ideas fuel this mostly.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 3, 2020:
@Storm1752 Of course they do, but it really doesn't concern me as I would never vote in the first place for a party that has always in my lifetime been the party of the rich. They practice identity politics by appealing to evangelicals and working class whites, who they are class enemies of, by appealing to the religion of the evangelicals, even tho they don't care about or share their religion, and to the working class whites, who get hooked on the appeals to their racism and resentment towards gays and liberal elite culture.
In this world we are hearing of the evil of terrorism.
MichaelSpinler comments on Feb 3, 2020:
identity politics and religious ideas fuel this mostly.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 3, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Ain't that the truth.....
In this world we are hearing of the evil of terrorism.
MichaelSpinler comments on Feb 3, 2020:
identity politics and religious ideas fuel this mostly.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 3, 2020:
Identity politics is a bullshit distraction used by centrist pols in the Dem party to substitute for the lack of class warfare on the part of the party against the rich and corporations. Unfortunately, most Dem voters fall for it and don't see how the Dems are not on their side economically or classwise, anymore than the Repubs....
The Right has been emboldened.
sassygirl3869 comments on Feb 2, 2020:
Its going to get ugly -feel like we need real change. Never mind a moderate candidate! I am angry!!!!
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 2, 2020:
That's why I feel the Dems need to nominate Bernie. Nominating a centrist who is only seeking incremental change will anger and alienate most voters, who want real change, causing them to either vote for Trump or stay home. Sticking with the safe or electable choice is what gave us Trump last time. Glad I'm retired and no longer have to put up with asshole bosses or co-workers who are religious and/or right wing..
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Unfortunately, my money would be on fascist dictatorship, which is what we are already close to with Trump. Bernie would mean going the other way, at least for a while. The problem with electing another centrist, corporatist defender of the status quo like Obama, Hillary, Biden, Warren, etc., is ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 2, 2020:
@RoboGraham What if they nominate a centrist instead?
I understand the need and the intentions...but I draw the line at manipulation.
bleurowz comments on Jan 31, 2020:
The worst aspect I've read about this is when a group of guys will bet on who can get the ugliest woman to sleep with them. It's called "pigging" and it's disgusting. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/pigging-cruel-new-dating-trend-need-know/
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 2, 2020:
@bleurowz True. It goes both ways, yada yada yada.....
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Unfortunately, my money would be on fascist dictatorship, which is what we are already close to with Trump. Bernie would mean going the other way, at least for a while. The problem with electing another centrist, corporatist defender of the status quo like Obama, Hillary, Biden, Warren, etc., is ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 2, 2020:
@RoboGraham They mean in the general election if Bernie isn't nominated....
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Unfortunately, my money would be on fascist dictatorship, which is what we are already close to with Trump. Bernie would mean going the other way, at least for a while. The problem with electing another centrist, corporatist defender of the status quo like Obama, Hillary, Biden, Warren, etc., is ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 2, 2020:
@Ms_McSteven I will be voting blue in the general no matter what, but if the Dems screw Bernie again, I hope the party blows up for good and I will never vote blue again for a centrist corporatist prez candidate...
I understand the need and the intentions...but I draw the line at manipulation.
of-the-mountain comments on Jan 31, 2020:
The newest scam from the ladies: They state that they are quitting the site! They state that their sister, daughter, or BFF viewed your profile, they want to meet you they are not a member of the site or do not want to join. They leave the usual coded E-mail fo you to contact them!!! The ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 2, 2020:
I had a few approach me with that line, but I never bit.....
I understand the need and the intentions...but I draw the line at manipulation.
bleurowz comments on Jan 31, 2020:
The worst aspect I've read about this is when a group of guys will bet on who can get the ugliest woman to sleep with them. It's called "pigging" and it's disgusting. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/pigging-cruel-new-dating-trend-need-know/
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 2, 2020:
There was an American movie a long time ago about this subject, only in the movie the contest was about which guy could bring the ugliest woman to a bar where the men and their "dates" would gather so they could judge who was the winner. The movie was called Dog Fight. Now, tell me ladies, how is this really that different than women sitting around a bar and comparing notes on who can get the most pathetic guy there to buy them a bunch of free drinks in hopes of getting lucky with that woman????
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham I hear you. One thing I hated about Obama is that no matter how much you weren't a racist, any criticism of Obama was called racist if you were white, like me. Same thing thing with Warren or Hillary, if you were male. Like I always said, identity politics is both the source and the symptom of so many problems with our politics. When will most people wise up and realize that what should really matter are policy, character, and whether their record matches their words and policy positions? Until then, those things, along with tribalism, and the corruption of money in politics, will leave us fooked beyond help..... Identity politics allows pols who are corrupt and phony to con voters into supporting them despite their faults, just to see someone who looks like them or shares their sexuality. Long before Mayor Pete, I used to say that after Obama and Hillary, the next identity politics prez candidate would be a gay Hispanic man. With Mayor Pete, I was only partially wrong....
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham Exactly..Warren says she will challenge the corruption in government, but when you look at how chummy she is with Hillary and that she was a Repub until 15 years ago, you have to be pretty gullible to believe her. Unfortunately, many who support her are that way, besides being overly obsessed with electing a female prez. I honestly think many Dem voters are that way in that they put gender ahead of policy to a degree that is laughable...
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham I know, I have been trying to tell anyone who will listen that Biden is the MOST unelectable Dem, because, like Hillary, he would be so easily attacked by Trump. Plus, with Biden, there is also the corruption the Repubs brought up during the impeachment trial this week. The Dems need someone who is both tough and squeaky clean, like Bernie, if they want to beat Trump. Thing is, tho, the Dems would rather lose again than nominate Bernie.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham Don't we all? Too bad most of us aren't old enough to remember his 1987 prez campaign when he had to drop out after being caught plagarising something in one of his campaign speeches.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham He can't do that or the party leaders would find a way to screw him over more, plus it would give the media more ammo to slam him on. He doesn't want to alienate blacks or older Dem voters who like Biden.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham I agree, but in the primaries he has to when the rest of the party is so against him. But in a general election, I have no doubt he can and would go negative against Trump. He is already speaking very negative about Trump all the time.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham Your points are all valid, but I still won't bother with the uninformed or stupid. I won't dumb down my comments for anyone. I am too old, impatient and intolerant, I suppose, for that. Probably part of why I never had or wanted kids and am uncomfortable around the retarded, who I know can't help being simple-minded. I'll leave it to you or others who are more patient, to do the outreach. One thing I'll say for Bernie, he keeps his language very simple and basic, that's part of why he is so good a campaigner. He also avoids going negative as much as possible, unlike me.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham I agree. Call me a snob or elitist if you like, but the way I see it, the uninformed are a lost cause and I won't waste my time trying to reach or reason with them. Like it or not, the uninformed are allowed to vote and most of them do, so we who are informed are stuck with their stupidity whether we deserve it or not. I wish there was a way to prevent the uninformed from voting, but I don't get to make the rules. Most people in Iowa, however, that go thru the trouble of participating the caucuses, are pretty informed.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Unfortunately, my money would be on fascist dictatorship, which is what we are already close to with Trump. Bernie would mean going the other way, at least for a while. The problem with electing another centrist, corporatist defender of the status quo like Obama, Hillary, Biden, Warren, etc., is ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham You're absolutely right about that. I guess we'll find out soon enough if the people are capable of seeing who is truly on their side and who isn't, despite what the corporate media and the Dem party tell them.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
RoboGraham comments on Feb 1, 2020:
These are some very tough questions. I think the only way we can truly break the stranglehold of the corporate oligarchs is through a mass movement of nonviolent civil disobedience. Our workforce will have to do what the French are doing currently to make any significant improvements. But look on ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham I hope you are right about that, but right now the only two I see that have the courage and the charisma are Bernie and AOC.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Update: After years of trying from time to time to get on air as a caller to C-Span's Washington Journal, today I manged to get on air as a caller to C-Span during a program on the Iowa Caucuses. I got to speak uninterrupted for about two minutes and made most of the comments I have made on this ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham I honestly have no idea, even tho I continued to watch the program for another hour after I hung up. None of the later callers made any reference to my comments, tho there was another Bernie supporter who came up later on. Compared to the other callers I heard, both before and after me, I was much more analytical and sophisticated. No one else seemed to get that Trump was the symptom, not the disease, that comes from the Dems focusing on identity politics and nominating only status quo-supporting, corporate centrists. Those were part of my exact words in my call.
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
RoboGraham comments on Feb 1, 2020:
These are some very tough questions. I think the only way we can truly break the stranglehold of the corporate oligarchs is through a mass movement of nonviolent civil disobedience. Our workforce will have to do what the French are doing currently to make any significant improvements. But look on ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
I don't think it will be the 60s again for three reasons. One, the corporate media is much more unwilling to fairly cover radical politicians or movements like they did in the 60s. And even tho the internet is somewhat of an equalizer of that for younger people, the older people who vote still get most or all of their info from the TV and newspapers and radio. Second, the two major parties and the media have pretty well killed hope for radical change among most Americans who are middle aged or older than that. Third, the 60s taught a very sobering lesson to potential leaders of political or social movements, thru all the assassinations that happened, so much that very few people are courageous enough to risk getting whacked if they run against the system on the left. And in case any potential leaders forgot about those assassinations, the PTB issued a reminder early in the new century with the assassination of Paul Wellstone thru plane crash....
How much longer will we have to endure minority rule in this country?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Unfortunately, my money would be on fascist dictatorship, which is what we are already close to with Trump. Bernie would mean going the other way, at least for a while. The problem with electing another centrist, corporatist defender of the status quo like Obama, Hillary, Biden, Warren, etc., is ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham That would be Bernie, because he offers more than just the usual status quo-maintaining identity politics of the Dem party. The Repubs will always have the votes of racists, evangelicals and the rich. Right now, they also have the votes of angry, working class whites who have been left behind in the economy. Bernie has lots of appeal to that last group and would have had it four years ago if Hillary hadn't cheated him out of the nomination. That's why I think he would have beat Trump four years ago and will beat him now if given the nomination this time. This should be the real argument about electability, not this bullshit about labels like socialism and being too old or radical. Ever since Obama, people of all genders and races in America have been hungering for a real choice in the prez race for a candidate who was not corrupt and out to support the rich and corporate America over the common folks. Bernie is the only candidate who can provide that reliably, instead of caving or selling out after being elected, like Obama did. The people are ready to support him, even tho the corporate media never will....
Hi Everyone! Happy Saturday! Woke up this morning with a purpose - get my hair done.
TheGreatShadow comments on Feb 1, 2020:
My Super Bowl plan is to not watch it.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@TheGreatShadow That is when it really began. America's turn to shit really began with Reagan as far the floodgates opening. After that it was Clinton with the whole DLC thing of the Dems becoming Repub lite.
Hi Everyone! Happy Saturday! Woke up this morning with a purpose - get my hair done.
TheGreatShadow comments on Feb 1, 2020:
My Super Bowl plan is to not watch it.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@TheGreatShadow And nowadays, we have not only sports, but also trashy reality shows to distract the masses from how they are being screwed politically and economicly. Plus, the reality shows let them feel superior to the pathetic folks who show up on the reality shows...
Hi Everyone! Happy Saturday! Woke up this morning with a purpose - get my hair done.
TheGreatShadow comments on Feb 1, 2020:
My Super Bowl plan is to not watch it.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 1, 2020:
Here, here... As someone once said, if Americans cared about and paid attention to half as much about politics as they do the Super Bowl, we would have elected Ralph Nader twice by now...
Bernie and Warren are very much alike.
skado comments on Jan 30, 2020:
https://thegilmanhouse.com/centrists-dont-understand-reality/
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 30, 2020:
Interesting stuff. The comments by progressives who have been harassed for confronting centrists reminds me of a video I saw recently of a climate change activist who had the balls to question Biden at one of his campaign appearances. The activist even prefaced his ? to Biden by saying he would support him in the general if he was the nominee, but that he was currently leaning to Steyer. Biden not only brushed off his ? about Biden's position on climate change, but Biden told him to support someone else and then went as far as to put his hands on the activist's shirt while leaning into him and lecturing him. Looks like Biden lives up to his whole rep for being innappropriate and not respecting someone's personal space. I wish the guy had called the cops on Biden for assault, since if the roles were reversed, you can be damn sure Biden would have pressed charges.... BTW, this happened just days ago here in Iowa.....Of course, the media won't cover this....
I'm toying with genetic identification programs like Ancestry and 23 and me.
UUNJ comments on Jan 29, 2020:
I don’t want a for-profit company having my DNA. Poor Henrietta Lacks: her DNA led to amazing medical breakthroughs but she got nothing because no one sought her permission. ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 30, 2020:
@Marcie1974 My point exactly, but some people are paranoid about their civil liberties being violated.
I'm toying with genetic identification programs like Ancestry and 23 and me.
UUNJ comments on Jan 29, 2020:
I don’t want a for-profit company having my DNA. Poor Henrietta Lacks: her DNA led to amazing medical breakthroughs but she got nothing because no one sought her permission. ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 30, 2020:
You have no control over who they might share it with. In fact, that is how the Golden State Killer was found, thru the authorities comparing DNA samples from crime scenes with one of those ancestry companies. They found a match with one of the guy's relatives that used the ancestry company, then traced him from there. I am fine with this particular use of the info, but others might not agree....
I'm toying with genetic identification programs like Ancestry and 23 and me.
Haemish1 comments on Jan 29, 2020:
I’d worry less about finding odd family relationships, than insurance companies getting ahold of it and jacking up insurance rates.
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 30, 2020:
@Lorajay I put my late wife's cause of death in the obituary because she had only one living blood relative, a sister, and that person had no kids and would not be getting life insurance-too poor to afford it anyway.
A question for republicans; At what point do you jump ship or do go all the way down with it?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 29, 2020:
In modern times, the Dems are not nearly as partisan and disciplined as the Repubs. What has changed since Nixon is that the Repubs now have no shame and are so partisan and disciplined that it doesn't matter how guilty Trump is or how much evidence there is against him, his party members in ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 29, 2020:
@273kelvin I agree with you that the legalized bribery of big money in elections is the root problem, but right now both major parties are totally bought off and corrupt, so no reform will happen because the American election system also makes it almost impossible for other parties to challenge the two major parties in elections. Besides that, Americans are almost all brainwashed into only voting for the two major parties. Finally, our legal system has now given campaign donations equal status to protected free speech, so limits on campaign financing is impossible without a constitutional amendment.
A question for republicans; At what point do you jump ship or do go all the way down with it?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 29, 2020:
In modern times, the Dems are not nearly as partisan and disciplined as the Repubs. What has changed since Nixon is that the Repubs now have no shame and are so partisan and disciplined that it doesn't matter how guilty Trump is or how much evidence there is against him, his party members in ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 29, 2020:
@273kelvin I hate the American version of the Tories, which is the Repubs, for they have no shame and will never admit their hypocrisy. I hate most of the Dems just as much for their phoniness when it comes to pretending like they care about the common people and equality and then turning around and serving only the rich and corporate America once elected and no longer needing to appeal to the peasants who vote.
I'm toying with genetic identification programs like Ancestry and 23 and me.
Haemish1 comments on Jan 29, 2020:
I’d worry less about finding odd family relationships, than insurance companies getting ahold of it and jacking up insurance rates.
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 29, 2020:
That is why the cause of death is no longer listed in obituaries anymore, because life insurance companies would use family histories of illnesses to raise the rates on people who applied for life insurance. Prior to the ACA, insurance companies were also doing that when you applied for health insurance as well. I'm glad that pre-existing conditions and family history can no longer be used to gouge customers on health insurance rates.
CAMPAIGN 2020: Michael Moore rallies for Bernie Sanders, urging voters to 'take a risk' in election...
Charlene comments on Jan 26, 2020:
And just like that, the world changed on 11/9/2020
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 28, 2020:
@Charlene I think you're maybe a bit too optimistic about the Senate changing over.
CAMPAIGN 2020: Michael Moore rallies for Bernie Sanders, urging voters to 'take a risk' in election...
Charlene comments on Jan 26, 2020:
And just like that, the world changed on 11/9/2020
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 28, 2020:
What happened then?
CAMPAIGN 2020: Michael Moore rallies for Bernie Sanders, urging voters to 'take a risk' in election...
dalefvictor comments on Jan 26, 2020:
I hear many things about Bernie, most of them are bad. This tells me that he is a good guy and should be supported. He is a Democratic Socialist, I used to be a member of this party and they are democratic to a fault. Socialist in that they think the economy would be far better off if it was not ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 28, 2020:
True. Even MSNBC is conservative in that they have a blackout on Bernie and only mention him when there is something negative like a smear against him. All of the corporate-owned media in the US, including newspapers, are slanted to support and cover only candidates that are pro-corporate, pro-war, and in favor of the status quo favoring the rich. Who needs state control of the media, like in the old Soviet Union, when you have corporate control of info in the media? The internet is the only place left with any freedom of speech and info that challenges corporate power.
CAMPAIGN 2020: Michael Moore rallies for Bernie Sanders, urging voters to 'take a risk' in election...
Athena comments on Jan 27, 2020:
Way to go, Michael! I find it rich how so many people (usually old themselves) are quick to refer to Bernie as "too old" the moment they hear his name. I wonder how that would go over if they were to say someone is "too black", or too female? People should try voting on a candidate's policies ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 28, 2020:
It's also important to remember that Reagan apparently had dementia as early as his first term, besides being old, but most people overlooked that because he was so damn charming and likeable to most Americans as some cheerful grandparent. What a mistake that was for this country....
Reasons Not To Vote For Joe Biden: • He opposed Busing as a means to fight segregation.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 28, 2020:
Bernie or bust! Also, I and other progressives (code for socialists) are really fucking sick of this double standard when it comes to being forced to support the Dem nominee no matter who it is. We get this demand from the centrist, corporate part of the party every election cycle no matter how ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 28, 2020:
@freeofgod The name was Nader, learn to spell. I will block you.
Reasons Not To Vote For Joe Biden: • He opposed Busing as a means to fight segregation.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 28, 2020:
Bernie or bust! Also, I and other progressives (code for socialists) are really fucking sick of this double standard when it comes to being forced to support the Dem nominee no matter who it is. We get this demand from the centrist, corporate part of the party every election cycle no matter how ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 28, 2020:
@RoboGraham That's what I am hoping and believe will happen if he gets the nomination. I truly believe he would have beat Trump last time, but we'll never know...
Good Saturday Everyone! Soon I'll be off to my Freethinkers Brunch Group and then this pm playing ...
WonderWartHog99 comments on Jan 25, 2020:
## For meeting with the locals, I'll be hauling trash to the dump today. It amazes me how friendly people are when they're throwing garbage off the side of a clift at the landfill.
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 25, 2020:
Sounds like Alice's Restuarant...
Anyone have an opinion on this statement?
yvilletom comments on Jan 25, 2020:
After a divorce, in a singles club with 400-plus members, I learned: 1) if I find someone too soon she will in subtle ways be much like my ex, and 2) if I’m not happy I won’t be able to make someone else happy.
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 25, 2020:
True on both counts.
Anyone have an opinion on this statement?
WonderWartHog99 comments on Jan 23, 2020:
## The "good" ones are ones in transistion between relationships/marriage. The real gig is people pair up during formal school when they're matched largely by age and class. People want romance with someone that is like themselves, making school ideal. After graduation the "good" ones are rapidly...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 24, 2020:
@UUNJ I've been thru that too. They are trying to be nice and helpful, but they are using standards that are too low and are usually unfamiliar with what your standards are.
Anyone have an opinion on this statement?
JackPedigo comments on Jan 24, 2020:
Yeah. I found myself in this situation with all of my former partners. When I was in a committed relationship I was the greatest and women actually told my partners that if something happened and I was single they wanted me. Of course when I was single it was a different story. There is something ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 24, 2020:
So true. People seem more attractive to the opposite sex just because they are with someone. All about how they seem more marketable in that situation, hence "curb appeal", even tho they may or may not be a quality partner..... Maybe this whole marketing or curb appeal thing explains why some guys will flash around a lot of money or buy drinks for pretty women at bars, because it allows them to be seen by other women with attractive-looking women, even if said women are being "bought" by the man for their temporary company and the boost to his market appeal in public....
Anyone have an opinion on this statement?
WonderWartHog99 comments on Jan 23, 2020:
## The "good" ones are ones in transistion between relationships/marriage. The real gig is people pair up during formal school when they're matched largely by age and class. People want romance with someone that is like themselves, making school ideal. After graduation the "good" ones are rapidly...
TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 24, 2020:
@WonderWartHog99 When I was actively using online dating, there were plenty of women in my local area on the paid site. The issues that were defeating me were the amount of competition from other local men and the relatively low number of women that were compatible with me, even on paper, so to speak.

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