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To those who have a Christian background: How are New Testament theology and evolution compatible?
LenHazell53 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
If Adam did not exist, then the sacrifice and atonement of Christ meant nothing.
If the sacrifice and atonement of Christ meant nothing, then there is no need for salvation.
If there is no need for salvation, the churches, churchmen and women are all thieves and liars
**Therefore it can be ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
priceless :D prolly stealin it
so,
*No Son of Man may die for another's sins;
I came that you might have LIFE, more abundantly
You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are*
respectively.
and evo is in There too bion
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible" SClemens
ps i wouldnt be telling believers any of this if you wanna sell them anything or anything k lol
LenHazell53 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
If Adam did not exist, then the sacrifice and atonement of Christ meant nothing.
If the sacrifice and atonement of Christ meant nothing, then there is no need for salvation.
If there is no need for salvation, the churches, churchmen and women are all thieves and liars
**Therefore it can be ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
priceless :D prolly stealin it
so,
*No Son of Man may die for another's sins;
I came that you might have LIFE, more abundantly
You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are*
respectively.
and evo is in There too bion
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible" SClemens
ps i wouldnt be telling believers any of this if you wanna sell them anything or anything k lol
To those who have a Christian background: How are New Testament theology and evolution compatible?
AnneWimsey comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Ohferpetessake
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
right? Evabody detests believers--even in the Bible--but evabody buys their interp of It too lol. Isnt "baptizing ppl in the river jordan" tantamount to sedition in a theocracy? Arent we aware that "Messiah, Savior, Son of God, King of kings, Lord of lords," these were all *Caesar's* titles? And Pharaoh's before them?
AnneWimsey comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Ohferpetessake
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
right? Evabody detests believers--even in the Bible--but evabody buys their interp of It too lol. Isnt "baptizing ppl in the river jordan" tantamount to sedition in a theocracy? Arent we aware that "Messiah, Savior, Son of God, King of kings, Lord of lords," these were all *Caesar's* titles? And Pharaoh's before them?
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
my point was that pandemics are actually good things, even if not pleasant in the moment; over-dramatizing them to the point of shutting down the whole economy (rather than sequestering the at-risk) tho? An extremely dangerous precedent has now been set imo
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
my point was that pandemics are actually good things, even if not pleasant in the moment; over-dramatizing them to the point of shutting down the whole economy (rather than sequestering the at-risk) tho? An extremely dangerous precedent has now been set imo
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Sticks48 ah well let's not rule anything out eh ;)
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Sticks48 ah well let's not rule anything out eh ;)
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez ha sounds about right i guess lol
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez ha sounds about right i guess lol
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Highway-Starr i understand why you say that, but you do realize virtually everyone in society is going to get exposed anyway, right? "Flatten the curve" is about sparing the sick-care industry an onslaught, not saving anyone from "infection" (= "immunization" btw)
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Highway-Starr i understand why you say that, but you do realize virtually everyone in society is going to get exposed anyway, right? "Flatten the curve" is about sparing the sick-care industry an onslaught, not saving anyone from "infection" (= "immunization" btw)
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Lovemylife1 i hear you; garlic tho! and fwiw the health food store has "immunoboosters," basically garlic and other good stuff in a capsule.
ive actually calmed an infected tooth with them, more than once. Fresh is better tho imo
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Lovemylife1 i hear you; garlic tho! and fwiw the health food store has "immunoboosters," basically garlic and other good stuff in a capsule.
ive actually calmed an infected tooth with them, more than once. Fresh is better tho imo
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
For what it’s worth if you just turn off the news that gets a whole lot less horrific :-)
Lovemylife1 comments on Mar 22, 2020:
Nope and, if there is a god, it can kiss my ass for this horrific pandemic that's been bestowed upon us.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
For what it’s worth if you just turn off the news that gets a whole lot less horrific :-)
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Cyklone *he who says he knows, does not* but you might also be right, ty
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Cyklone *he who says he knows, does not* but you might also be right, ty
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@VictoriaNotes zing! :)
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@VictoriaNotes zing! :)
500,000 infected?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 21, 2020:
ha ok look virtually the whole world is going to get "infected" ok, the whole point of the isolation is to "flatten the curve" so your healthcare (sickcare, actually) providers do not get overwhelmed with everyone showing up all at once. You do get that like 80% of those infected exhibit no symptoms...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Shaggy2018 fwiw "infection" and "immunization" are actually basically the ezack same thing. Safety is irrelevant imo, no offense. You cannot stop the wind. Your choices are bsically get immune or die imo
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 21, 2020:
ha ok look virtually the whole world is going to get "infected" ok, the whole point of the isolation is to "flatten the curve" so your healthcare (sickcare, actually) providers do not get overwhelmed with everyone showing up all at once. You do get that like 80% of those infected exhibit no symptoms...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Shaggy2018 fwiw "infection" and "immunization" are actually basically the ezack same thing. Safety is irrelevant imo, no offense. You cannot stop the wind. Your choices are bsically get immune or die imo
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez ok, ty, tbh i just really wanted to see how full of yourself you were. Fwiw there is exchristian.net, no agnostics allowed basically. But man am i figuring out that whatever i hate the most is what i really am!
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez ok, ty, tbh i just really wanted to see how full of yourself you were. Fwiw there is exchristian.net, no agnostics allowed basically. But man am i figuring out that whatever i hate the most is what i really am!
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Sticks48 so iow basically ezackly like any religious believer site then? Bc with all due respect you guys sound just like them, with the complacent superiority and all? The "this is that and that is this" bullshit, like you knew something? The woman asked a sincere question to someone who is not you, and you just cant help yourself huh? Trust me, yall are entangled in another religion ok, and just *you* are the god, bitches. Have a nice day
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 22, 2020:
@Sticks48 so iow basically ezackly like any religious believer site then? Bc with all due respect you guys sound just like them, with the complacent superiority and all? The "this is that and that is this" bullshit, like you knew something? The woman asked a sincere question to someone who is not you, and you just cant help yourself huh? Trust me, yall are entangled in another religion ok, and just *you* are the god, bitches. Have a nice day
500,000 infected?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 21, 2020:
ha ok look virtually the whole world is going to get "infected" ok, the whole point of the isolation is to "flatten the curve" so your healthcare (sickcare, actually) providers do not get overwhelmed with everyone showing up all at once. You do get that like 80% of those infected exhibit no symptoms...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
@Flowerwall hey, imo if you are sick, bam go to doctors, but nonetheless "dead doctors don't lie," meaning, briefly, that them guys at JH will not live as long as we will. Doctors are retards where health is concerned, and many of them will admit that. They are allopaths, symptom treaters; ezackly what ppl want, and pay for i guess. Ppl want a magic pill to cure them of their self inflicted ills, mostly
So, imo if you get "sick" goto JH, but if you want to avoid getting "sick," get off the SAD and eat some effing garlic already lol
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 21, 2020:
ha ok look virtually the whole world is going to get "infected" ok, the whole point of the isolation is to "flatten the curve" so your healthcare (sickcare, actually) providers do not get overwhelmed with everyone showing up all at once. You do get that like 80% of those infected exhibit no symptoms...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
@Flowerwall hey, imo if you are sick, bam go to doctors, but nonetheless "dead doctors don't lie," meaning, briefly, that them guys at JH will not live as long as we will. Doctors are retards where health is concerned, and many of them will admit that. They are allopaths, symptom treaters; ezackly what ppl want, and pay for i guess. Ppl want a magic pill to cure them of their self inflicted ills, mostly
So, imo if you get "sick" goto JH, but if you want to avoid getting "sick," get off the SAD and eat some effing garlic already lol
While everything is taken place in the world right now, how many of you have starting talking to ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
do atheists not have any sites they can goto? "Willfully ignorant" might also decribe an avowed atheist frequenting a site called "agnostic.com," couldnt it?
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 21, 2020:
This isn't Facebook. You'll not find many (If any) willfully ignorant members here.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
do atheists not have any sites they can goto? "Willfully ignorant" might also decribe an avowed atheist frequenting a site called "agnostic.com," couldnt it?
lol all these idiots praying for god to save them from the virus. wasn't it gods idea?
JimG comments on Mar 20, 2020:
These are the people who read a book, in which the protagonist murders hundreds of thousands directly, indirectly causes the deaths of every human being that ever lives, and tortures most of them forever even after they die, and think he's the good guy.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
havent read the Bible yet eh
lol
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible"
SClemens
JimG comments on Mar 20, 2020:
These are the people who read a book, in which the protagonist murders hundreds of thousands directly, indirectly causes the deaths of every human being that ever lives, and tortures most of them forever even after they die, and think he's the good guy.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
havent read the Bible yet eh
lol
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible"
SClemens
lol all these idiots praying for god to save them from the virus. wasn't it gods idea?
SkyreckedLoemm comments on Mar 21, 2020:
Wouldn't you as a parent prevent your kids from any sort of danger that could kill them?... Why pray to a God who allowed it to happen in the first place...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
um, bc it's self-inflicted, and pandemics are not bad things anyway?
SkyreckedLoemm comments on Mar 21, 2020:
Wouldn't you as a parent prevent your kids from any sort of danger that could kill them?... Why pray to a God who allowed it to happen in the first place...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
um, bc it's self-inflicted, and pandemics are not bad things anyway?
When you finally realize that your imaginary friend is going to let you down because they are ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
i guess the virus is maybe going to let you down too then, 80% of those infected show no symptoms?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
@Jacar well i guess that would be one response, ya. No offense but your outlook reminds me of most believer's? With the Tribulation stuff?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
i guess the virus is maybe going to let you down too then, 80% of those infected show no symptoms?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 21, 2020:
@Jacar well i guess that would be one response, ya. No offense but your outlook reminds me of most believer's? With the Tribulation stuff?
Pope Francis assures atheists: You don’t have to believe in God to go to heaven | The Independent
Nunya comments on Jan 21, 2020:
Well, that's not exactly what he actually said. This is:
Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 20, 2020:
ty :)
Nunya comments on Jan 21, 2020:
Well, that's not exactly what he actually said. This is:
Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 20, 2020:
ty :)
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 um, we are brought up with hegelian dialectic, the Bible is written in the naive? Or a hybrid anyway, freaky; you cannot state a single Absolute Truth from the Bible why am i telling you this lol
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 um, we are brought up with hegelian dialectic, the Bible is written in the naive? Or a hybrid anyway, freaky; you cannot state a single Absolute Truth from the Bible why am i telling you this lol
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 um but i did also just see the first instance im aware of of naive dialectic in a major hollywood movie, things are lookin up! lol
jumanji 2
"of of" is fairly hard, but i got an "and, and and" in once
:D
im on drugs
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 um but i did also just see the first instance im aware of of naive dialectic in a major hollywood movie, things are lookin up! lol
jumanji 2
"of of" is fairly hard, but i got an "and, and and" in once
:D
im on drugs
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
fascism is a religion too i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 plenty of warning in the Bible about them
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
fascism is a religion too i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 plenty of warning in the Bible about them
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 hmm i gotta believe everyone gets the same netflix pretty much? "Eternal" is conflated with "forever" rather than *aeon*, "a space of time, an age"
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 hmm i gotta believe everyone gets the same netflix pretty much? "Eternal" is conflated with "forever" rather than *aeon*, "a space of time, an age"
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
aintmisbehaven comments on Mar 18, 2020:
always been that way.....
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 lol
aintmisbehaven comments on Mar 18, 2020:
always been that way.....
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 lol
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 ah ty ill havta change that. Hated FL with a passion tbh, parents were there. And my outlook would not be affecting me hearing "eternal" conflated with "forever" anyway, would it?
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 ah ty ill havta change that. Hated FL with a passion tbh, parents were there. And my outlook would not be affecting me hearing "eternal" conflated with "forever" anyway, would it?
& not in the blood of Christ!
p-nullifidian comments on Mar 17, 2020:
Just make sure the water isn't 'holy.' ;-)
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
i guess that is how we got our first "vending machine," a "holy water" dispenser? lol
p-nullifidian comments on Mar 17, 2020:
Just make sure the water isn't 'holy.' ;-)
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
i guess that is how we got our first "vending machine," a "holy water" dispenser? lol
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
fascism is a religion too i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 ha well, so is religion, as the Bible makes very plain imo. The NT is a record of the *failure* of a theocracy, after all?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
fascism is a religion too i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 ha well, so is religion, as the Bible makes very plain imo. The NT is a record of the *failure* of a theocracy, after all?
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 ? i live in Aspen, and the movies come out of Hollywood, i guess
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@fishline79 ? i live in Aspen, and the movies come out of Hollywood, i guess
When you finally realize that your imaginary friend is going to let you down because they are ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
i guess the virus is maybe going to let you down too then, 80% of those infected show no symptoms?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@jlynn37 80% of whom will not care, and prolly 90% of the rest will not die, hmm.
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
i guess the virus is maybe going to let you down too then, 80% of those infected show no symptoms?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@jlynn37 80% of whom will not care, and prolly 90% of the rest will not die, hmm.
When you finally realize that your imaginary friend is going to let you down because they are ...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
i guess the virus is maybe going to let you down too then, 80% of those infected show no symptoms?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@Surfpirate my response there is that that mostly derives from sequestering 100% rather than the <20% who are considered "at risk," like any sane society would do?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
i guess the virus is maybe going to let you down too then, 80% of those infected show no symptoms?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 19, 2020:
@Surfpirate my response there is that that mostly derives from sequestering 100% rather than the <20% who are considered "at risk," like any sane society would do?
When I was a teenager and in a bad place, I believed that there was a God.
motrubl4u comments on Mar 18, 2020:
God doesn't exist. Period. You're welcome.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
@motrubl4u fwiw the Bible does not assert anywhere that Yah "exists," Moses could not see Yah's "face," etc
motrubl4u comments on Mar 18, 2020:
God doesn't exist. Period. You're welcome.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
@motrubl4u fwiw the Bible does not assert anywhere that Yah "exists," Moses could not see Yah's "face," etc
A few rambling observations on feel-good faith…
I gave up my religious beliefs years ago, and ...
K9Kohle789 comments on Mar 17, 2020:
You can always rely and depend on a good dog. So there is hope after all. Plus they can make you laugh, relax you when you pet them beside you on the couch, listen without comment and deter criminals-depending on the breed. Just re arrange god and you can take pleasure in dog.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
word
K9Kohle789 comments on Mar 17, 2020:
You can always rely and depend on a good dog. So there is hope after all. Plus they can make you laugh, relax you when you pet them beside you on the couch, listen without comment and deter criminals-depending on the breed. Just re arrange god and you can take pleasure in dog.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
word
When I was a teenager and in a bad place, I believed that there was a God.
motrubl4u comments on Mar 18, 2020:
God doesn't exist. Period. You're welcome.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
*he who says he knows does not yet know as he ought* maybe, wadr
motrubl4u comments on Mar 18, 2020:
God doesn't exist. Period. You're welcome.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
*he who says he knows does not yet know as he ought* maybe, wadr
Has anyone else noticed that religion is portrayed as truth and real history on most TV ...
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
i do notice "eternal" being conflated with "forever" quite a bit; all the time, actually. Like, not a day goes by hardly?
fishline79 comments on Mar 18, 2020:
Are you sure it's not in an academic way? In other words, nobody would argue that religion exists, or that the concept of "God" exists, so they can be discussed objectively. I can't imagine that a secular broadcast would acknowledge the absolute existence of a particular religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
i do notice "eternal" being conflated with "forever" quite a bit; all the time, actually. Like, not a day goes by hardly?
Mystery religions were prevalent in Egypt and all the middle east at the time of adoption of the ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 15, 2020:
When did we mortals ever stop dreaming of immortality? We live, We die and in the end, that's as good as it gets, so be happy.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
*you and your sons will be here with me* (Samuel)
*all go to the same place*
*There is nothing better for man than to eat, drink, and enjoy his work.*
Surfpirate comments on Mar 15, 2020:
When did we mortals ever stop dreaming of immortality? We live, We die and in the end, that's as good as it gets, so be happy.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
*you and your sons will be here with me* (Samuel)
*all go to the same place*
*There is nothing better for man than to eat, drink, and enjoy his work.*
Mystery religions were prevalent in Egypt and all the middle east at the time of adoption of the ...
DavidLaDeau comments on Mar 15, 2020:
Very few realize that Chrianities are in fact a mystery religion. I get much criticism for pointing that out. In truth if one studies mystery religions specifically it becomes very appearant. Not traces but mounds of evidence are presented in the New Testiment. This is not good or bad, it is simply ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
that is contemplated in the story of Esau, the guy who needed *red stew* or he would "die." Also a likely reasoning for *God, why have you forsaken Me?*
DavidLaDeau comments on Mar 15, 2020:
Very few realize that Chrianities are in fact a mystery religion. I get much criticism for pointing that out. In truth if one studies mystery religions specifically it becomes very appearant. Not traces but mounds of evidence are presented in the New Testiment. This is not good or bad, it is simply ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
that is contemplated in the story of Esau, the guy who needed *red stew* or he would "die." Also a likely reasoning for *God, why have you forsaken Me?*
Mystery religions were prevalent in Egypt and all the middle east at the time of adoption of the ...
gearl comments on Mar 15, 2020:
The book of John especially reads exactly like a product of a mystery religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
wadr that is bc *wisdom is hidden from the wise,* as the Bible makes very plain that there are no "mysteries" too; *No one has ever gone up to heaven, No son of man may die for another's sins, All go to the same place,* etc. iow there is no reason to accept "believer's" conclusions about the Bible
gearl comments on Mar 15, 2020:
The book of John especially reads exactly like a product of a mystery religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
wadr that is bc *wisdom is hidden from the wise,* as the Bible makes very plain that there are no "mysteries" too; *No one has ever gone up to heaven, No son of man may die for another's sins, All go to the same place,* etc. iow there is no reason to accept "believer's" conclusions about the Bible
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AwarenessNow comments on Mar 9, 2020:
Well, if you believe in the concept of "heaven", you probably believe in the concept of a god. They're kind of a package deal.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
you would think so, huh? But that is i guess not true at all; *No one has ever gone up to heaven...* see, right there in black and white. *There is only One Immortal...* too. Imo dont be telling believers this ok, it just upsets them
AwarenessNow comments on Mar 9, 2020:
Well, if you believe in the concept of "heaven", you probably believe in the concept of a god. They're kind of a package deal.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
you would think so, huh? But that is i guess not true at all; *No one has ever gone up to heaven...* see, right there in black and white. *There is only One Immortal...* too. Imo dont be telling believers this ok, it just upsets them
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
Word comments on Mar 15, 2020:
Non-Falsifiable evidence perhaps available but not not easily understood. AND, the evidence may be entwined and conflated with incorrect information, assumption, hyperbole, and other things that would have to be weeded out to understand the facts of what might be true information.
A ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
no reason these cant be true imo, "an image of Yah" and "the dust of the earth"
Word comments on Mar 15, 2020:
Non-Falsifiable evidence perhaps available but not not easily understood. AND, the evidence may be entwined and conflated with incorrect information, assumption, hyperbole, and other things that would have to be weeded out to understand the facts of what might be true information.
A ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 18, 2020:
no reason these cant be true imo, "an image of Yah" and "the dust of the earth"
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 16, 2020:
*Test everything, and keep what is good*
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay dunno if this will help any--everything i say is a lie anyway--but in satan's dialectic it is quite easy to Quote "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord," and as im sure you aready know "believers" Quote it all the time; yet in the naive dialectic--the way it was written, albeit in carefully constructed syntax, *to hide* on purpose--we find something much closer to prolly "We are cock-sure, i tell you, and even wish we were already dead and partying with Jesus..." (which is not even the payoff v in that passage, yet most believers cannot Quote the next v to save their lives) https://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/5-8.htm
imo you might at least contemplate a Yah that does not exist, yet is very real, *the Unknown God*
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 16, 2020:
*Test everything, and keep what is good*
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay dunno if this will help any--everything i say is a lie anyway--but in satan's dialectic it is quite easy to Quote "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord," and as im sure you aready know "believers" Quote it all the time; yet in the naive dialectic--the way it was written, albeit in carefully constructed syntax, *to hide* on purpose--we find something much closer to prolly "We are cock-sure, i tell you, and even wish we were already dead and partying with Jesus..." (which is not even the payoff v in that passage, yet most believers cannot Quote the next v to save their lives) https://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/5-8.htm
imo you might at least contemplate a Yah that does not exist, yet is very real, *the Unknown God*
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 16, 2020:
*Test everything, and keep what is good*
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay ok, for this i am wondering in what situation irl i would be wanting to distinguish the natural from the supernatural anyway, aside from some purely "intellectual" pursuit? And i bet that would quickly reveal that no "test" for that is practically possible...as you are saying, and tbh i would wonder to what end anyway?
"one can always *imagine* a scientific reason for the supernat..."
well, so you say, but any imagination there would be a "theory" right, and that theory would be subject to review? And fwiw again what is the end there? To reliably reproduce the miracle or determine if ones beliefs are valid or not? Bc i dunno about the second, idrc about the next guy's beliefs, and there is no judgement in the Bible for beliefs, only actions/works.
Call yourself a satan worshipper for all i care, and im pretty sure for all Yah cares too. If you're doing the righht thing then so what
anyway, those imaginings have more or less created the theories we have today, right; and i guess most scientists will tell you that resolving a theory generally just creates lots more questions? Like as if we were to discover that all ufos come from Vorbojulon Prime, some impossibly gorpy distance away, other side of the known universe, i mean...kinda...like woo-hoo? Sorta? You learned another fact?
Wouldnt most of the As to the deeper Qs we have be functionally meaningless to us anyway?
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 16, 2020:
*Test everything, and keep what is good*
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay ok, for this i am wondering in what situation irl i would be wanting to distinguish the natural from the supernatural anyway, aside from some purely "intellectual" pursuit? And i bet that would quickly reveal that no "test" for that is practically possible...as you are saying, and tbh i would wonder to what end anyway?
"one can always *imagine* a scientific reason for the supernat..."
well, so you say, but any imagination there would be a "theory" right, and that theory would be subject to review? And fwiw again what is the end there? To reliably reproduce the miracle or determine if ones beliefs are valid or not? Bc i dunno about the second, idrc about the next guy's beliefs, and there is no judgement in the Bible for beliefs, only actions/works.
Call yourself a satan worshipper for all i care, and im pretty sure for all Yah cares too. If you're doing the righht thing then so what
anyway, those imaginings have more or less created the theories we have today, right; and i guess most scientists will tell you that resolving a theory generally just creates lots more questions? Like as if we were to discover that all ufos come from Vorbojulon Prime, some impossibly gorpy distance away, other side of the known universe, i mean...kinda...like woo-hoo? Sorta? You learned another fact?
Wouldnt most of the As to the deeper Qs we have be functionally meaningless to us anyway?
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay with all due respect "satan's dialectic" does not necessarily suppose an actual satan; that is just what it is called by some? The hegelian or logical or socratic then
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"@bbyrd009
"You might note that you cannot Quote “God exists.”"
Sure I can. First line
"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." - Genesis 1:1"
so then yes, in the hegelian dialectic Yah exists; in the Naive dialectic, Scripture agrees with reality. I think so that hypocrites might be more easily revealed? Or i mean ppl who use the Bible for their own ends, i guess we are all prolly hypocrites
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"For anyone to create something, they must exist."
ah well i dont think there are any "persons" in Yah either, no old white guy with a long white beard imo, *Yah is Spirit,* so i have issues there on two counts i guess. And fwiw the same argument can be applied to the Big Bang ("theory"), yes? Yet we have no objective evidence of either one, right?
Unless you are willing to consider the order that comes out of an otherwise entropic existence? How does order come from entropy iow? I find that the most...theologically compelling, as Big Bangs are not doing that
"And if the bible TRULY puts for the idea that god didn't exist, then who is this "God" that created the heavens and the earth that is not god?"
again it seems our disagreement is chiefly over whether things that are real must "exist" or not, iow have objectively verifiable existence, which fwiw is the classic hegelian dialectic; A or notA, no middle ground, etc, logical reasoning.
You fam with Dao stories at all? "perhaps, we'll see, maybe, so you say?"
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay with all due respect "satan's dialectic" does not necessarily suppose an actual satan; that is just what it is called by some? The hegelian or logical or socratic then
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"@bbyrd009
"You might note that you cannot Quote “God exists.”"
Sure I can. First line
"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." - Genesis 1:1"
so then yes, in the hegelian dialectic Yah exists; in the Naive dialectic, Scripture agrees with reality. I think so that hypocrites might be more easily revealed? Or i mean ppl who use the Bible for their own ends, i guess we are all prolly hypocrites
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"For anyone to create something, they must exist."
ah well i dont think there are any "persons" in Yah either, no old white guy with a long white beard imo, *Yah is Spirit,* so i have issues there on two counts i guess. And fwiw the same argument can be applied to the Big Bang ("theory"), yes? Yet we have no objective evidence of either one, right?
Unless you are willing to consider the order that comes out of an otherwise entropic existence? How does order come from entropy iow? I find that the most...theologically compelling, as Big Bangs are not doing that
"And if the bible TRULY puts for the idea that god didn't exist, then who is this "God" that created the heavens and the earth that is not god?"
again it seems our disagreement is chiefly over whether things that are real must "exist" or not, iow have objectively verifiable existence, which fwiw is the classic hegelian dialectic; A or notA, no middle ground, etc, logical reasoning.
You fam with Dao stories at all? "perhaps, we'll see, maybe, so you say?"
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay “ The new testament is all about how god exists.” In Satan’s dialectic, certainly, however in the naïve dialectic, not so much. You might note that you cannot Quote “God exists.”
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay “ The new testament is all about how god exists.” In Satan’s dialectic, certainly, however in the naïve dialectic, not so much. You might note that you cannot Quote “God exists.”
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay so, are you at all fam with the Naive Dialectic? Bc nothing is ever directly stated as fact in the naive dialectic, its more like pertinent questions with an obvious answer are asked, but the answer is not stated. We reason from logic, a diff "dialectic" iow
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay so, are you at all fam with the Naive Dialectic? Bc nothing is ever directly stated as fact in the naive dialectic, its more like pertinent questions with an obvious answer are asked, but the answer is not stated. We reason from logic, a diff "dialectic" iow
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay well wadr that is in code so to speak, as we speak in a diff dialect from the one Scripture was written in. However, Moses could not "see" Yah, but only His effect, so to speak? Also in the story of Jacob "wrestling" with an angel, but in many other passages as well. Really the most substantial evidence might be that our scribes have written Yah's "existence" in there, in that last v i Quoted, if you note how that disappears in the original? Also Yah is said to be the "Creator of everything that exists," but Yah "was not created," ergo "does not exist."
but i am detecting now that you are maybe a Christian believer? To which i say you might believe that Yah "exists" if you like, doesnt matter to me ok. You might believe you are going up to heaven after you have died, despite plain Scripture, or that you might become an immortal and live forever, despite very plain Scripture, etc.
No judgement for beliefs anywhere that i can find :)
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 16, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay well wadr that is in code so to speak, as we speak in a diff dialect from the one Scripture was written in. However, Moses could not "see" Yah, but only His effect, so to speak? Also in the story of Jacob "wrestling" with an angel, but in many other passages as well. Really the most substantial evidence might be that our scribes have written Yah's "existence" in there, in that last v i Quoted, if you note how that disappears in the original? Also Yah is said to be the "Creator of everything that exists," but Yah "was not created," ergo "does not exist."
but i am detecting now that you are maybe a Christian believer? To which i say you might believe that Yah "exists" if you like, doesnt matter to me ok. You might believe you are going up to heaven after you have died, despite plain Scripture, or that you might become an immortal and live forever, despite very plain Scripture, etc.
No judgement for beliefs anywhere that i can find :)
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
"supernatural" being sought up there, see, but the Bible even says that miracles are for chumps
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
"supernatural" being sought up there, see, but the Bible even says that miracles are for chumps
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay then you might Quote the vv that suggest evidence for Yah's "existence" i guess, pls note that it is not in here https://biblehub.com/lexicon/hebrews/11-6.htm except in English, disappears in the original. But i suggest that our disagreement is mostly over the term "exists," which you maybe think is necessary for something to be "real?"
fwiw even the term "God" is...extremely generic, and although most of the Names of Yah have been xlated "God" into English by our scribes, this is a terrible xlation, as is "Lord," an English Landholder, after all.
but really bottom line is you have no "objective evidence" for Yah, right, only something must "exist" for it to be "real" to us?
So iow our training from the cradle to accept satan's dialectic (hegelian, logical, whatever; A=A, something is either A or not A, no middle path) over the naive or eastern dialectic, which is just after all a diff way to reason, the way *little kids* reason, in fact. I have a link for that somewhere if you like, or the terms search
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay then you might Quote the vv that suggest evidence for Yah's "existence" i guess, pls note that it is not in here https://biblehub.com/lexicon/hebrews/11-6.htm except in English, disappears in the original. But i suggest that our disagreement is mostly over the term "exists," which you maybe think is necessary for something to be "real?"
fwiw even the term "God" is...extremely generic, and although most of the Names of Yah have been xlated "God" into English by our scribes, this is a terrible xlation, as is "Lord," an English Landholder, after all.
but really bottom line is you have no "objective evidence" for Yah, right, only something must "exist" for it to be "real" to us?
So iow our training from the cradle to accept satan's dialectic (hegelian, logical, whatever; A=A, something is either A or not A, no middle path) over the naive or eastern dialectic, which is just after all a diff way to reason, the way *little kids* reason, in fact. I have a link for that somewhere if you like, or the terms search
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
"If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my mind."
If any non-falsifiable "evidence of God" came to light, i would run for the hills myself
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
"If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my mind."
If any non-falsifiable "evidence of God" came to light, i would run for the hills myself
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay *I AM* further makes the case i guess, also *Unknown God,* but really it is obvious that *YHWH* has no "objective reality or being?" Moses could not "see Yah," but only His "passing" so to speak, many other passages in this vein. The gods that "exist" are idols *made of wood,* and the passages on those. Also said that we cannot know Yah, but only know of Yah, stuff like that.
I dont know, but i suspect the reasoning is that any "God" that "exists" can be fully known and defined, and is thus more a product of human imagination rather than truth, which cannot be known, *He who says he knows, does not...*
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 15, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay *I AM* further makes the case i guess, also *Unknown God,* but really it is obvious that *YHWH* has no "objective reality or being?" Moses could not "see Yah," but only His "passing" so to speak, many other passages in this vein. The gods that "exist" are idols *made of wood,* and the passages on those. Also said that we cannot know Yah, but only know of Yah, stuff like that.
I dont know, but i suspect the reasoning is that any "God" that "exists" can be fully known and defined, and is thus more a product of human imagination rather than truth, which cannot be known, *He who says he knows, does not...*
If any non-falsifiable evidence of a god's existing came to light, I would be persuaded to change my...
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay *There is only One Immortal, Who lives in unapproachable light
God is Spirit*
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ex·ist
/iɡˈzist/
verb
1.
have objective reality or being.
bbyrd009 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
fwiw the Bible directly states that Yah does not "exist," according to our def of that, and wadr you might grasp the notion of "spirit," which believers usually anthropomorphize to death themselves lol
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 14, 2020:
@TheMiddleWay *There is only One Immortal, Who lives in unapproachable light
God is Spirit*
et al
ex·ist
/iɡˈzist/
verb
1.
have objective reality or being.
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Petter comments on Mar 13, 2020:
I would have thought that was the other way round.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 13, 2020:
believe it or not thats basically what the Bible says too lol. Virtually no hope for "believers" according to It
Petter comments on Mar 13, 2020:
I would have thought that was the other way round.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 13, 2020:
believe it or not thats basically what the Bible says too lol. Virtually no hope for "believers" according to It
Christians, or as I call some of them, christian scum, like to call evolution and science "Lies from...
Mofo1953 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
You're preaching to the choir here. Pun intended. Mark Twain said it perfectly: Never Argue With a Fool, Onlookers May Not Be Able To Tell the Difference!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 13, 2020:
ah, and a third,
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible"
Mofo1953 comments on Mar 13, 2020:
You're preaching to the choir here. Pun intended. Mark Twain said it perfectly: Never Argue With a Fool, Onlookers May Not Be Able To Tell the Difference!
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 13, 2020:
ah, and a third,
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible"
Christians, or as I call some of them, christian scum, like to call evolution and science "Lies from...
RussRAB comments on Mar 13, 2020:
The concept of justice per many Christian evangelicals is also convoluted. Access to heaven requires the professing and acceptance of Jesus as your personal saviour and you're in. If you don't believe, then you are out destine to burn for eternity. Even if the believer is the scum of the earth as an...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 13, 2020:
@Techpriest technically (ha, little joke there) Bronze Age, im pretty sure, and i know this might be hard to accept at first but the Yah of the Bible is nothing like xtian "believers" make Him out to be, *No Son of Man may die for another's sins; the soul that sins will die* and *I desire mercy, not sacrifice* among many others, so while im not real sure how "this" is defined in your post, it basically cannot be "the Bible." The NT is basically a record of the implosion of a Theocracy? "Believers" are called *twice the sons of hell you are* with *seven worse spirits* ? *True worship* is defined as *helping widows, orphans, and strangers* ? So, ya. *Your gatherings do more harm than good* lol, on and on
RussRAB comments on Mar 13, 2020:
The concept of justice per many Christian evangelicals is also convoluted. Access to heaven requires the professing and acceptance of Jesus as your personal saviour and you're in. If you don't believe, then you are out destine to burn for eternity. Even if the believer is the scum of the earth as an...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 13, 2020:
@Techpriest technically (ha, little joke there) Bronze Age, im pretty sure, and i know this might be hard to accept at first but the Yah of the Bible is nothing like xtian "believers" make Him out to be, *No Son of Man may die for another's sins; the soul that sins will die* and *I desire mercy, not sacrifice* among many others, so while im not real sure how "this" is defined in your post, it basically cannot be "the Bible." The NT is basically a record of the implosion of a Theocracy? "Believers" are called *twice the sons of hell you are* with *seven worse spirits* ? *True worship* is defined as *helping widows, orphans, and strangers* ? So, ya. *Your gatherings do more harm than good* lol, on and on
It's interesting watching all the religious and new agey people quietly going about canceling their ...
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 11, 2020:
@MichaelF
Washing your hands to prevent infection is common sense.
It has nothing to do with religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 11, 2020:
imo washing your hands to prevent "infection" is suicidal, at least the way we do it. Unless you have been playing in sewage or something. Otherwise, get infected imo
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 11, 2020:
@MichaelF
Washing your hands to prevent infection is common sense.
It has nothing to do with religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 11, 2020:
imo washing your hands to prevent "infection" is suicidal, at least the way we do it. Unless you have been playing in sewage or something. Otherwise, get infected imo
I have to be honest.
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
*Who told you that you were naked?*
there is your evil, viscous, sacrifice-needing God lol
it's all crap ok, every single thing they believe
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
*Who told you that you were naked?*
there is your evil, viscous, sacrifice-needing God lol
it's all crap ok, every single thing they believe
I have to be honest.
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
"If this god created a place of eternal punishment, why did it take so long before it started threatening its creation with it?"
hell is the addition of Norse/Angle scribes, translating our Bibles for us. They werent meaning to be dedeptive, surely, but just had no better analogy for the Bible's *Gehenna*, which is after all on earth, ok? "Ragnarok" was the only analogy they had, i guess. So *poof* just like that *Gehenna* on earth became "hell" for us, more or less. i think.
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
"If this god created a place of eternal punishment, why did it take so long before it started threatening its creation with it?"
hell is the addition of Norse/Angle scribes, translating our Bibles for us. They werent meaning to be dedeptive, surely, but just had no better analogy for the Bible's *Gehenna*, which is after all on earth, ok? "Ragnarok" was the only analogy they had, i guess. So *poof* just like that *Gehenna* on earth became "hell" for us, more or less. i think.
I have to be honest.
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
@Joanne but essentially why rely on those who have failed your test to translate or interpret the Bible for you? Religion is roundly and repeatedly condemned in the Bible btw; the NT is basically a record of the implosion of the Theocracy?
*understand why the publicans and prostitutes are beating you into the kingdom*
ok, bye
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
@Joanne but essentially why rely on those who have failed your test to translate or interpret the Bible for you? Religion is roundly and repeatedly condemned in the Bible btw; the NT is basically a record of the implosion of the Theocracy?
*understand why the publicans and prostitutes are beating you into the kingdom*
ok, bye
I have to be honest.
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
@Joanne well then wadr when you were told to ignore those, they lied and contravened the Bible, *test everything, and keep what is good,* imo briefly bc they were/are raging mithraist/cult of sol ppl in reality, all dying to "go to heaven" after they have died, in like direct contravention to most of the Bible. Fwiw i could give you about ten vv that are like holy water to a vampire viz "believers" lol, *no one has ever gone up to heaven, there is only one immortal, no son of man may die for another's sins,* on and on, you could send a room full of them screaming if you like :)
"That I am now an atheist shows that I could not just ignore my questions."
my reply to this would not be pleasant to you, and i will only give it if you ask for it, but you are not going to be able to unhear it ok. ignorance really is bliss
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 10, 2020:
@Joanne well then wadr when you were told to ignore those, they lied and contravened the Bible, *test everything, and keep what is good,* imo briefly bc they were/are raging mithraist/cult of sol ppl in reality, all dying to "go to heaven" after they have died, in like direct contravention to most of the Bible. Fwiw i could give you about ten vv that are like holy water to a vampire viz "believers" lol, *no one has ever gone up to heaven, there is only one immortal, no son of man may die for another's sins,* on and on, you could send a room full of them screaming if you like :)
"That I am now an atheist shows that I could not just ignore my questions."
my reply to this would not be pleasant to you, and i will only give it if you ask for it, but you are not going to be able to unhear it ok. ignorance really is bliss
I have to be honest.
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 5, 2020:
"I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God" wadr why didnt you run as soon as you found out that cannot be Quoted? Ha well maybe you did :)
Joanne comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I was also religiously programmed (Conservative Baptist, for the most part). I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God.
Two books that helped me tremendously when I began my journey out of this mindset were: 'Who Wrote the Bible,' by Richard E. Friedman and '101 Myths of the Bible,' ...
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 5, 2020:
"I was taught the Bible is the infallible word of God" wadr why didnt you run as soon as you found out that cannot be Quoted? Ha well maybe you did :)
A Catholic apologist attempted to defend the story of the Exodus... And failed.
[youtu.be]
anglophone comments on Mar 2, 2020:
Why would any sane person want Catholic answers or even Protestant answers when evidence-based answers are available?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 3, 2020:
*test everything, and keep what is good*
iow i agree :)
anglophone comments on Mar 2, 2020:
Why would any sane person want Catholic answers or even Protestant answers when evidence-based answers are available?
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 3, 2020:
*test everything, and keep what is good*
iow i agree :)
I miss church.
Eazyduzzit comments on Feb 24, 2020:
I've been going to a UU church some. The people there are great, and they haven't said anything about God or the Bible in the many times I've been there. In one of the services they even sang "Ain't Necessarily So", a great song about the myths in the Bible. You might give it a try.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 3, 2020:
@richiegtt i see an alert for a tag, but no tag, sorry
Eazyduzzit comments on Feb 24, 2020:
I've been going to a UU church some. The people there are great, and they haven't said anything about God or the Bible in the many times I've been there. In one of the services they even sang "Ain't Necessarily So", a great song about the myths in the Bible. You might give it a try.
bbyrd009 replies on Mar 3, 2020:
@richiegtt i see an alert for a tag, but no tag, sorry
Finding like-minded people
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 27, 2020:
"Finding like-minded people" is likely an illusion, wadr. We do this to bolster our self esteem, i think. Not saying that ppl cannot share convictions, nor that it is not valuable to congregate with them, but there will always be areas where even they differ?
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 29, 2020:
@DSGavde ya, that is the part that i suspect is mostly illusion, not sure one could find any two people who agree more than surface?
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 27, 2020:
"Finding like-minded people" is likely an illusion, wadr. We do this to bolster our self esteem, i think. Not saying that ppl cannot share convictions, nor that it is not valuable to congregate with them, but there will always be areas where even they differ?
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 29, 2020:
@DSGavde ya, that is the part that i suspect is mostly illusion, not sure one could find any two people who agree more than surface?
Hello
coming from a catholic background,how do you fill or erase the psycological void of God ...
Trajan61 comments on Feb 25, 2020:
I simply don’t bring up my lack of religious beliefs around my religious family and friends.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
@HarrySlick if only, wadr
Trajan61 comments on Feb 25, 2020:
I simply don’t bring up my lack of religious beliefs around my religious family and friends.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
@HarrySlick if only, wadr
Hello
coming from a catholic background,how do you fill or erase the psycological void of God ...
AmyLF comments on Feb 26, 2020:
I guess that depends very much on what it was you did to occupy that psychological space before. Was it having people around who believed as you did? Was it prayers, songs, activities that your mind was focused on? Was it the idea that there was something there but now there isn't? When you figure ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
ha! fwiw proselytizing is a crime in Israel, no one does that there, nor anywhere in the mideast, that crap will get you nicked in a hurry lol
AmyLF comments on Feb 26, 2020:
I guess that depends very much on what it was you did to occupy that psychological space before. Was it having people around who believed as you did? Was it prayers, songs, activities that your mind was focused on? Was it the idea that there was something there but now there isn't? When you figure ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
ha! fwiw proselytizing is a crime in Israel, no one does that there, nor anywhere in the mideast, that crap will get you nicked in a hurry lol
Hello
coming from a catholic background,how do you fill or erase the psycological void of God ...
richiegtt comments on Feb 26, 2020:
Why would one have a psychological void of god if they are an atheist ,agnostic or whatever? .This makes absolutely no sense .I have no psychological void of god .The Only people in my family who are aware that I am a nonbeliever are my wife daughter father and one friend who are non practicing ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
but you were not the subject?
richiegtt comments on Feb 26, 2020:
Why would one have a psychological void of god if they are an atheist ,agnostic or whatever? .This makes absolutely no sense .I have no psychological void of god .The Only people in my family who are aware that I am a nonbeliever are my wife daughter father and one friend who are non practicing ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
but you were not the subject?
Hello
coming from a catholic background,how do you fill or erase the psycological void of God ...
HarrySlick comments on Feb 26, 2020:
This is a ridiculous question .How the heck can you have a psychological void about coming to a logical conclusion in regards to something you do not believe in anymore.There is not logical.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
so who is appealing to logic there?
HarrySlick comments on Feb 26, 2020:
This is a ridiculous question .How the heck can you have a psychological void about coming to a logical conclusion in regards to something you do not believe in anymore.There is not logical.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 27, 2020:
so who is appealing to logic there?
I love how most people who believe the bible can trace their belief to the notion that the bible ...
TonyGriffiths1 comments on Feb 26, 2020:
Are not miracles magic (LOL)
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 26, 2020:
believing Yah needs a Sacrifice to make you acceptable to Him is pagan as hell lol
hence *why have you forsaken Me?*
possibly
TonyGriffiths1 comments on Feb 26, 2020:
Are not miracles magic (LOL)
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 26, 2020:
believing Yah needs a Sacrifice to make you acceptable to Him is pagan as hell lol
hence *why have you forsaken Me?*
possibly
I love how most people who believe the bible can trace their belief to the notion that the bible ...
TonyGriffiths1 comments on Feb 26, 2020:
Are not miracles magic (LOL)
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 26, 2020:
the Bible makes plain that miracles are for ppl...who are misguided, and fwiw
*No son of man may die for another's sins;* is in there, too
https://biblehub.net/search.php?q=Jesus+died+for+our+sins
(a search of "Jesus died for our sins")
!
TonyGriffiths1 comments on Feb 26, 2020:
Are not miracles magic (LOL)
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 26, 2020:
the Bible makes plain that miracles are for ppl...who are misguided, and fwiw
*No son of man may die for another's sins;* is in there, too
https://biblehub.net/search.php?q=Jesus+died+for+our+sins
(a search of "Jesus died for our sins")
!
I love how most people who believe the bible can trace their belief to the notion that the bible ...
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 25, 2020:
ha, youre not supposed to take that stuff literally; that is the mistake of most believers tho
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 26, 2020:
@ZealotX i would say the exodus has clearly "spiritual" implications--by which i mean "not religious," that being that after being "freed," one must " cross the sea of reeds," and other...liberating? concepts; shrouded in language that allows "believers" to misinterpret, *wisdom is hidden from the wise*
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 25, 2020:
ha, youre not supposed to take that stuff literally; that is the mistake of most believers tho
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 26, 2020:
@ZealotX i would say the exodus has clearly "spiritual" implications--by which i mean "not religious," that being that after being "freed," one must " cross the sea of reeds," and other...liberating? concepts; shrouded in language that allows "believers" to misinterpret, *wisdom is hidden from the wise*
I miss church.
Krish55 comments on Feb 24, 2020:
A socialist commune.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 25, 2020:
@darkstar24 ya...no
Krish55 comments on Feb 24, 2020:
A socialist commune.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 25, 2020:
@darkstar24 ya...no
I miss church.
Eazyduzzit comments on Feb 24, 2020:
I've been going to a UU church some. The people there are great, and they haven't said anything about God or the Bible in the many times I've been there. In one of the services they even sang "Ain't Necessarily So", a great song about the myths in the Bible. You might give it a try.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
priceless. need a link :)
hugh laurie has one too, but prolly this
https://youtu.be/pKQPpwEnr6o
Eazyduzzit comments on Feb 24, 2020:
I've been going to a UU church some. The people there are great, and they haven't said anything about God or the Bible in the many times I've been there. In one of the services they even sang "Ain't Necessarily So", a great song about the myths in the Bible. You might give it a try.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
priceless. need a link :)
hugh laurie has one too, but prolly this
https://youtu.be/pKQPpwEnr6o
I miss church.
Krish55 comments on Feb 24, 2020:
A socialist commune.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
not a voter, but id love to see bernie win. shit, might have to register
Krish55 comments on Feb 24, 2020:
A socialist commune.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
not a voter, but id love to see bernie win. shit, might have to register
I miss church.
Jon_Frum comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Meetup.com is great.
Otherwise a Unitarian church is another option.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
the only two i ever attended the kids in them were unusually mature imo :)
Jon_Frum comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Meetup.com is great.
Otherwise a Unitarian church is another option.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
the only two i ever attended the kids in them were unusually mature imo :)
I miss church.
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 24, 2020:
imo that is why it is really deemed a *love feast* in Scripture, and not "worship" per se as we define that today. Anyway what i am hearing is that it is maybe time for you to realize that "Church" is where you are, *a living stone*
it's now a responsibility iow, maybe even to attend cult of sol ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
but *leaving the camp* can be hard, yeh
"everybody's here with me;
got no camera to see"
follow that maybe
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 24, 2020:
imo that is why it is really deemed a *love feast* in Scripture, and not "worship" per se as we define that today. Anyway what i am hearing is that it is maybe time for you to realize that "Church" is where you are, *a living stone*
it's now a responsibility iow, maybe even to attend cult of sol ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 24, 2020:
but *leaving the camp* can be hard, yeh
"everybody's here with me;
got no camera to see"
follow that maybe
I have 4th stage prostate cancer so I will dies soon.
Atheist3 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Birth, life, death. There is no awareness in the grave. Or regrets! You are responsible for giving your life meaning & hence purpose.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Atheist3 ok, ty
Atheist3 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Birth, life, death. There is no awareness in the grave. Or regrets! You are responsible for giving your life meaning & hence purpose.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Atheist3 ok, ty
It amazes me, the deep indoctrination self- indoctrination I had growing up.
abyers1970 comments on Feb 18, 2020:
A pastor and a hypnotist use similar techniques but with the hypnotist you know what you are getting into when you go. Church is covert hypnotism
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 18, 2020:
ok just bc they call it church does not mean it is yeh
abyers1970 comments on Feb 18, 2020:
A pastor and a hypnotist use similar techniques but with the hypnotist you know what you are getting into when you go. Church is covert hypnotism
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 18, 2020:
ok just bc they call it church does not mean it is yeh
I have 4th stage prostate cancer so I will dies soon.
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
believe it or not the belief system we know as "Christians" today are actually really prolly Cult of Sol Invictus, with Jesus playing the role of Mercury, "returning" to take them to the Elysian Fields, in a dress, basically...and the Bible has all this in it, kinda in code, *Apollos waters* how ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 18, 2020:
@Atheist3 ha well yet here you are, commenting on it?
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
believe it or not the belief system we know as "Christians" today are actually really prolly Cult of Sol Invictus, with Jesus playing the role of Mercury, "returning" to take them to the Elysian Fields, in a dress, basically...and the Bible has all this in it, kinda in code, *Apollos waters* how ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 18, 2020:
@Atheist3 ha well yet here you are, commenting on it?
I have 4th stage prostate cancer so I will dies soon.
Atheist3 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Birth, life, death. There is no awareness in the grave. Or regrets! You are responsible for giving your life meaning & hence purpose.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 18, 2020:
@Atheist3 i dunno, the vv are fairly well known, *the dead know nothing, I came that you might have life,* etc
Atheist3 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Birth, life, death. There is no awareness in the grave. Or regrets! You are responsible for giving your life meaning & hence purpose.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 18, 2020:
@Atheist3 i dunno, the vv are fairly well known, *the dead know nothing, I came that you might have life,* etc
What happened when you came out of the closet as an atheist?
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
follow up q why would you come to an Agnostic site, as an Atheist? ty
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 14, 2020:
@UpsideDownAgain really just curious. I dont really know what the options are or anything, just struck me kinda funny that so many atheists, as you say, frequent an "agnostic" site. and are pretty much the most vocal. It kinda makes a statement? But then i might be um misconstruing too, dunno
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
follow up q why would you come to an Agnostic site, as an Atheist? ty
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 14, 2020:
@UpsideDownAgain really just curious. I dont really know what the options are or anything, just struck me kinda funny that so many atheists, as you say, frequent an "agnostic" site. and are pretty much the most vocal. It kinda makes a statement? But then i might be um misconstruing too, dunno
I have 4th stage prostate cancer so I will dies soon.
doug6352 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Quite a few people with stage 4 cancer recover. Michael Milken was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer in 1993, and he's still alive. Martha Argerich was diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma in 1995; the doctor who treated her, Donald Morton, died 6 years ago, but Ms. Argerich is still alive. I ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 14, 2020:
@doug6352 https://www.inclinedental.com/lemon-juice-good-bad-sour/ for alkalinizing, apparently more controversial than i realized, hmm. So, i found that by searching "lemon alk..." which autocompleted for a list you might pick from, the basic theory being that lemons metabolize into alkiline metabolites, and the pretty much fact i guess being that cancer is always in acidic bodies. Not quite sure what the dispute is, Bills prostate cancer was an earlier stage, but its just something we heard and he tried and some important number that he was watching went from like 700 to 70 overnight. pulp the whole thing and add some honey to get it down, strain it if you have to but i wouldnt, as i think the chemicals on the outside of the peel help too? Id say try it for a...it only took like a day or two, so maybe try it and monitor your numbers? And ill see if i can call Bill for an update, still have his bosses number i think. Palmetto honey too, prostate loves it i guess. So, im reading that the controversy is that lemons might only mostly alkalinize the urine and not the whole body, but hey prostates handle urine all day long right
doug6352 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Quite a few people with stage 4 cancer recover. Michael Milken was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer in 1993, and he's still alive. Martha Argerich was diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma in 1995; the doctor who treated her, Donald Morton, died 6 years ago, but Ms. Argerich is still alive. I ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 14, 2020:
@doug6352 https://www.inclinedental.com/lemon-juice-good-bad-sour/ for alkalinizing, apparently more controversial than i realized, hmm. So, i found that by searching "lemon alk..." which autocompleted for a list you might pick from, the basic theory being that lemons metabolize into alkiline metabolites, and the pretty much fact i guess being that cancer is always in acidic bodies. Not quite sure what the dispute is, Bills prostate cancer was an earlier stage, but its just something we heard and he tried and some important number that he was watching went from like 700 to 70 overnight. pulp the whole thing and add some honey to get it down, strain it if you have to but i wouldnt, as i think the chemicals on the outside of the peel help too? Id say try it for a...it only took like a day or two, so maybe try it and monitor your numbers? And ill see if i can call Bill for an update, still have his bosses number i think. Palmetto honey too, prostate loves it i guess. So, im reading that the controversy is that lemons might only mostly alkalinize the urine and not the whole body, but hey prostates handle urine all day long right
I have 4th stage prostate cancer so I will dies soon.
doug6352 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Quite a few people with stage 4 cancer recover. Michael Milken was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer in 1993, and he's still alive. Martha Argerich was diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma in 1995; the doctor who treated her, Donald Morton, died 6 years ago, but Ms. Argerich is still alive. I ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 12, 2020:
yeh, believe it or not pulping a lemon every morning and choking it down will pretty much eradicate any cancer i guess, which cannot survive in an alkaline environment. How an acidic lemon produces an alkaline response i never quite got lol, but i suggested this to a prostate cancer sufferer and he even stopped his chemo! I could even get ahold of him for an update i guess
doug6352 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Quite a few people with stage 4 cancer recover. Michael Milken was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer in 1993, and he's still alive. Martha Argerich was diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma in 1995; the doctor who treated her, Donald Morton, died 6 years ago, but Ms. Argerich is still alive. I ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 12, 2020:
yeh, believe it or not pulping a lemon every morning and choking it down will pretty much eradicate any cancer i guess, which cannot survive in an alkaline environment. How an acidic lemon produces an alkaline response i never quite got lol, but i suggested this to a prostate cancer sufferer and he even stopped his chemo! I could even get ahold of him for an update i guess
I have 4th stage prostate cancer so I will dies soon.
Atheist3 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Birth, life, death. There is no awareness in the grave. Or regrets! You are responsible for giving your life meaning & hence purpose.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 12, 2020:
@Azaz8899 plainly printed in every Bible lol
Atheist3 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Birth, life, death. There is no awareness in the grave. Or regrets! You are responsible for giving your life meaning & hence purpose.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 12, 2020:
@Azaz8899 plainly printed in every Bible lol
What happened when you came out of the closet as an atheist?
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
follow up q why would you come to an Agnostic site, as an Atheist? ty
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 12, 2020:
@DavidLaDeau ok, but wouldnt an atheist site be more amenable for that? Im curious how agnostic and atheist are being conflated there, here...ty
bbyrd009 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
follow up q why would you come to an Agnostic site, as an Atheist? ty
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 12, 2020:
@DavidLaDeau ok, but wouldnt an atheist site be more amenable for that? Im curious how agnostic and atheist are being conflated there, here...ty
I wish Christians would just be honest and say they have NO idea what happens when a person dies?
FilthyMONKEYgirl comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Pascal's Wager is a fucking fallacy of arguement.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 11, 2020:
it's so retarded lol
FilthyMONKEYgirl comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Pascal's Wager is a fucking fallacy of arguement.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 11, 2020:
it's so retarded lol
I wish Christians would just be honest and say they have NO idea what happens when a person dies?
TristanNuvo comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Although I've heard it many times from many differen't people. I still love the sentiment. 'what would make me a believer, well. I don't know, but, if there is a God, he/she would know EXACTLY what would change my mind. and has NEVER presented anything to that effect".
IMHO, that is one of the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 11, 2020:
nice. there is no judgement for beliefs :)
TristanNuvo comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Although I've heard it many times from many differen't people. I still love the sentiment. 'what would make me a believer, well. I don't know, but, if there is a God, he/she would know EXACTLY what would change my mind. and has NEVER presented anything to that effect".
IMHO, that is one of the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 11, 2020:
nice. there is no judgement for beliefs :)
My family's church is having revival service all week.
beenthere comments on Jan 30, 2020:
It is the disambiguation that empowers those that lead and enslaves those that follow.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 7, 2020:
@beenthere *We're tired of this manna...* so i guess im not getting you, sorry
beenthere comments on Jan 30, 2020:
It is the disambiguation that empowers those that lead and enslaves those that follow.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 7, 2020:
@beenthere *We're tired of this manna...* so i guess im not getting you, sorry
My family's church is having revival service all week.
beenthere comments on Jan 30, 2020:
It is the disambiguation that empowers those that lead and enslaves those that follow.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 4, 2020:
*he who says he knows, does not yet know as he ought*
and fwiw manna is not derived from *what is it* for nothing, nor the official story we are told, prolly
beenthere comments on Jan 30, 2020:
It is the disambiguation that empowers those that lead and enslaves those that follow.
bbyrd009 replies on Feb 4, 2020:
*he who says he knows, does not yet know as he ought*
and fwiw manna is not derived from *what is it* for nothing, nor the official story we are told, prolly
Why Religion Is Not Going Away and Science Will Not Destroy It
Antideity comments on Jan 28, 2020:
Has destroyed it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 29, 2020:
@Tomfoolery33 right? i mean, even science can easily become a religion, seems like
Antideity comments on Jan 28, 2020:
Has destroyed it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 29, 2020:
@Tomfoolery33 right? i mean, even science can easily become a religion, seems like
What do you do when expected to participate in public religious ceremonies such as prayer?
Greatlakesgal comments on Jan 20, 2020:
I just sit/stand silently, sometimes thinking about my shopping list. The suggestions to look for other nonbelievers is great, I never thought of that.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 20, 2020:
i am a believer and i approve this comment :)
Greatlakesgal comments on Jan 20, 2020:
I just sit/stand silently, sometimes thinking about my shopping list. The suggestions to look for other nonbelievers is great, I never thought of that.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 20, 2020:
i am a believer and i approve this comment :)
A close friend of mine goes back and forth between extreme antithiesm and Pascal's Wager.
Larry-new comments on Jan 6, 2020:
The basic idea of a sky daddy is so ridiculous that it seems ludicrous that anyone bought it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
immortality is a compelling subject to many i guess
Larry-new comments on Jan 6, 2020:
The basic idea of a sky daddy is so ridiculous that it seems ludicrous that anyone bought it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
immortality is a compelling subject to many i guess
A close friend of mine goes back and forth between extreme antithiesm and Pascal's Wager.
Atheist3 comments on Jan 6, 2020:
Lol! Rascal's Wager only works if one believes in his god. I'm sure there are lots of people that believe otherwise. So, instead of wasting one's time on this BS, become a humanist. Humanism - All we have is each other. Lol!
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
*I said, "you are elohim"*
Atheist3 comments on Jan 6, 2020:
Lol! Rascal's Wager only works if one believes in his god. I'm sure there are lots of people that believe otherwise. So, instead of wasting one's time on this BS, become a humanist. Humanism - All we have is each other. Lol!
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
*I said, "you are elohim"*
A close friend of mine goes back and forth between extreme antithiesm and Pascal's Wager.
Joanne comments on Jan 6, 2020:
To me, any kind of god that would invent a place like Hell does not deserve to be worshiped. Also, the ancient Jews did not believe in Hell. Modern Jews do not believe in Hell. Many Christians don't believe in Hell even though it was a Christian invention.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
*Gehenna* is on earth, yeh. Hell most likely came from bad translation, Angle/Norse scribes who had no other analogue
Joanne comments on Jan 6, 2020:
To me, any kind of god that would invent a place like Hell does not deserve to be worshiped. Also, the ancient Jews did not believe in Hell. Modern Jews do not believe in Hell. Many Christians don't believe in Hell even though it was a Christian invention.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
*Gehenna* is on earth, yeh. Hell most likely came from bad translation, Angle/Norse scribes who had no other analogue
A close friend of mine goes back and forth between extreme antithiesm and Pascal's Wager.
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 7, 2020:
"How can "the author of morals" strike down women and children"
where are women and children struck down?
"condone slavery"
like *an eye for an eye*, this "condoning slavery" is meant to *limit* behavior, not condone it
"allow his male followers to have many wives"
same thing, and even ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@Biblebeltskeptic the Bible actually speaks in different terms anyway, and "slavery" might easily be more representative of a position we all might find ourselves in, "slave to debt" or whatever, and these perspectives are outlined elsewhere
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 7, 2020:
"How can "the author of morals" strike down women and children"
where are women and children struck down?
"condone slavery"
like *an eye for an eye*, this "condoning slavery" is meant to *limit* behavior, not condone it
"allow his male followers to have many wives"
same thing, and even ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@Biblebeltskeptic the Bible actually speaks in different terms anyway, and "slavery" might easily be more representative of a position we all might find ourselves in, "slave to debt" or whatever, and these perspectives are outlined elsewhere
A close friend of mine goes back and forth between extreme antithiesm and Pascal's Wager.
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 7, 2020:
"How can "the author of morals" strike down women and children"
where are women and children struck down?
"condone slavery"
like *an eye for an eye*, this "condoning slavery" is meant to *limit* behavior, not condone it
"allow his male followers to have many wives"
same thing, and even ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@Biblebeltskeptic yes, i get you, but im not sure its fair to judge that world by our standards? Life was vastly different then i think. Ppl even sold themselves into slavery, for other reasons besides debt. Really we are having the same argument as those who object to "an eye for an eye," when these are meant to limit retribution, and protect slaves. "Outlawing slavery" simply wouldnt have been practical prolly. It does say *you reap what you sow* right, pretty zen.
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 7, 2020:
"How can "the author of morals" strike down women and children"
where are women and children struck down?
"condone slavery"
like *an eye for an eye*, this "condoning slavery" is meant to *limit* behavior, not condone it
"allow his male followers to have many wives"
same thing, and even ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@Biblebeltskeptic yes, i get you, but im not sure its fair to judge that world by our standards? Life was vastly different then i think. Ppl even sold themselves into slavery, for other reasons besides debt. Really we are having the same argument as those who object to "an eye for an eye," when these are meant to limit retribution, and protect slaves. "Outlawing slavery" simply wouldnt have been practical prolly. It does say *you reap what you sow* right, pretty zen.
A close friend of mine goes back and forth between extreme antithiesm and Pascal's Wager.
powder comments on Jan 6, 2020:
Tell your friend they are stuck on the #1 rule of religious doctrine; there is a god. This is the final obstacle for agnostics, dismissing the whole concept of deity utterly and completely. If this is achieved then the concept of judgment and thus hell become a nonsense.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2020:
*I desire mercy, not sacrifice*
powder comments on Jan 6, 2020:
Tell your friend they are stuck on the #1 rule of religious doctrine; there is a god. This is the final obstacle for agnostics, dismissing the whole concept of deity utterly and completely. If this is achieved then the concept of judgment and thus hell become a nonsense.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2020:
*I desire mercy, not sacrifice*
I am bemused that people would talk so much about religion, mostly Christianity, on here.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
The Bible does not remain the perennial Best-seller bc religion, nor ignorance, bro
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 21, 2019:
@Grahame well, fwiw (nothing) i suggest that that is mostly bc the Bible contains a story that few ppl ever read, about the best way to live a life, and not about religion at all, wadr. After all, it is a story about the *failure* of a Theocracy? And isnt "baptising ppl in the Jordan" *sedition* in a Theocracy? So i suggest that there is a story in there that would maybe blow your mind, too, ok. I could go on..."messiah, king of kings, saviour, lord of lords," these are all titles of Pharaohs and Caesars. "Jesus of Nazareth" = "John Doe from Nowhere" in rabbi-speak, bro
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
The Bible does not remain the perennial Best-seller bc religion, nor ignorance, bro
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 21, 2019:
@Grahame well, fwiw (nothing) i suggest that that is mostly bc the Bible contains a story that few ppl ever read, about the best way to live a life, and not about religion at all, wadr. After all, it is a story about the *failure* of a Theocracy? And isnt "baptising ppl in the Jordan" *sedition* in a Theocracy? So i suggest that there is a story in there that would maybe blow your mind, too, ok. I could go on..."messiah, king of kings, saviour, lord of lords," these are all titles of Pharaohs and Caesars. "Jesus of Nazareth" = "John Doe from Nowhere" in rabbi-speak, bro
I am often told that god is unknowable.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
nice, imo. But see that i can say that i know *of* Yah, even though i cannot say (even according to Scripture) that i *know* Him.
an obvious corollary would be that even a scientist would estimate that we are only aware of slightly less than 5% of what we know must exist; recently up from about ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 21, 2019:
@DavidLaDeau *knowledge brings sorrow* in Biblespeak, i guess. And note that manna is incidentally called "what is it?"
:D
even *we're tired of this manna, give us some meat to eat* is commentary on a "believers" impression that their beliefs are absolute truths imo
*he who says he knows, does not...*
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
nice, imo. But see that i can say that i know *of* Yah, even though i cannot say (even according to Scripture) that i *know* Him.
an obvious corollary would be that even a scientist would estimate that we are only aware of slightly less than 5% of what we know must exist; recently up from about ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 21, 2019:
@DavidLaDeau *knowledge brings sorrow* in Biblespeak, i guess. And note that manna is incidentally called "what is it?"
:D
even *we're tired of this manna, give us some meat to eat* is commentary on a "believers" impression that their beliefs are absolute truths imo
*he who says he knows, does not...*
How many here think of themselves as skeptical thinkers?
K9Kohle789 comments on Dec 16, 2019:
Question god due to lack of evidence.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 16, 2019:
*I said 'you are elohim...'*
! ha
fwiw Yah certainly does not *exist,* according to our definition, and fwiw is not trying to, either
K9Kohle789 comments on Dec 16, 2019:
Question god due to lack of evidence.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 16, 2019:
*I said 'you are elohim...'*
! ha
fwiw Yah certainly does not *exist,* according to our definition, and fwiw is not trying to, either
God belief and religion are not synonymous.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 9, 2019:
i guess atheism can be a religion too?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 11, 2019:
@Joanne well, so you say maam, but i beg to disagree wadr; i know many religious atheists, so self-deemed imo simply bc they have rejected religious theism, or are just mad at Yah
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 9, 2019:
i guess atheism can be a religion too?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 11, 2019:
@Joanne well, so you say maam, but i beg to disagree wadr; i know many religious atheists, so self-deemed imo simply bc they have rejected religious theism, or are just mad at Yah
God belief and religion are not synonymous.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 9, 2019:
i guess atheism can be a religion too?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 9, 2019:
@skado hmm. Guess it depends on our def of Religion; i drink a cup of coffee eevry morning, religiously.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 9, 2019:
i guess atheism can be a religion too?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 9, 2019:
@skado hmm. Guess it depends on our def of Religion; i drink a cup of coffee eevry morning, religiously.
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