So much 🙄🙄🙄

KateOahu comments on Jun 22, 2021:

None. They believe their god will turn the light on when he wants it on.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 22, 2021:

What if their god turns out to be an all-powerful asshole? Q!!!!!!

Working definition.

NostraDumbass comments on Jun 21, 2021:

Nothing fails like prayer

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 22, 2021:

Love that Dan Barker quote!

Very true...

Matias comments on Jun 20, 2021:

Despite a widespread misconception, religion is not for explaining things. Its most important function is to give give meaning to life and the world (something that science cannot deliver)

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 21, 2021:

@Word As dictionaries explain word usage and meaning, how could I disagree? :-)

Quantum physics.

LenHazell53 comments on Jun 21, 2021:

Reality IS what is perceived, not how it is explained.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 21, 2021:

Reality is defined as “the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.” If my mind has been altered by psychotropics or alcohol even, inducing synesthesia or hallucinations, my perception of reality is distorted. Reality does not require an observer, whether drunk or sober, in order to exist.

Very true...

Matias comments on Jun 20, 2021:

Despite a widespread misconception, religion is not for explaining things. Its most important function is to give give meaning to life and the world (something that science cannot deliver)

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 20, 2021:

For many of us, meaning comes from explaining things. The more descriptive the explanation, the more profound the meaning. And since facts are required to support explanations, the body of knowledge and method of gathering such facts, known as science, is irreplaceable in the endeavor to obtain meaning.

Sums it up pretty well

Canyonrunner comments on Jun 20, 2021:

What's worse is that as time goes by both will become further glorified for those that long for the return of the worst they represented.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 20, 2021:

Exactly! Just as the cult of fables and fictions grew into the Christian religion, both the Confederacy and The Donald will continue to benefit from falsehoods about their brief and pathetic day in the sun.

Are you really just mad at “God?

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 12, 2021:

I was mad at God for a while, when I was still a believer. First I was angry with his hiddenness, and then most angry over his apparent indifference to the suffering of innocents … the age old Epicurean problem of evil. Once I finally realized he wasn’t real I got over being angry real fast! ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 18, 2021:

@bbyrd009 Thank you for your patient and articulate reply. Don’t you find it ironic that a book that was compiled and interpolated by Christians for Christians would be so uninterpretable to them?

Are you really just mad at “God?

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 12, 2021:

I was mad at God for a while, when I was still a believer. First I was angry with his hiddenness, and then most angry over his apparent indifference to the suffering of innocents … the age old Epicurean problem of evil. Once I finally realized he wasn’t real I got over being angry real fast! ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 18, 2021:

@bbyrd009 I've read the Bible, cover to cover, and was raised in a faith where memorizing significant portions was a rite of passage. We were first taught to revere that book, to treat it as holy and to never physically stack another book of any kind on top of it. But it's all noise and bunk to me now. A re-reading of it as an adult led me to the conclusion that the Bible is a book that should be relegated to the cheap fantasy section of any bookstore or library. In addition to being a nullfidian, I'm a positivist. So in my world view, if there are facts to be learned or knowledge gained from any book or source of any kind, they would be scientifically verifiable and universal. Mysticism, metaphysics and religious allegory are all 'woo' to me.

Are you really just mad at “God?

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 12, 2021:

I was mad at God for a while, when I was still a believer. First I was angry with his hiddenness, and then most angry over his apparent indifference to the suffering of innocents … the age old Epicurean problem of evil. Once I finally realized he wasn’t real I got over being angry real fast! ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 18, 2021:

@bbyrd009 Hidden wisdom? It was the divine hiddenness of God that sealed the deal for me. That along with the infinite caprice of inconsistent action (interventions), both in the present and as described in the book I was taught to accept as truth. Finally, the cop out alibi of any occurrence we are unable to understand is simply an example of God’s mysterious ways, does not satisfy.

Are you really just mad at “God?

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 12, 2021:

I was mad at God for a while, when I was still a believer. First I was angry with his hiddenness, and then most angry over his apparent indifference to the suffering of innocents … the age old Epicurean problem of evil. Once I finally realized he wasn’t real I got over being angry real fast! ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 13, 2021:

@bbyrd009 I’m speaking about the God that I was taught to believe in. The interpersonal God who intervenes in our daily lives and occasionally performs miracles. The God as described in the Bible is clearly a fairytale.

Sanity re-emerging in the U.S. [washingtontimes.com]

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 11, 2021:

When I lived in DC decades ago, while serving in the Air Force, I found the Washington Times to be weak in its reporting and not too different from the New York Post in its bias for sensationalism. I trust you're aware of the potential bias here?

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 12, 2021:

@PBuck0145 Hasty generalizations indicate misplaced confidence.

Sanity re-emerging in the U.S. [washingtontimes.com]

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 11, 2021:

When I lived in DC decades ago, while serving in the Air Force, I found the Washington Times to be weak in its reporting and not too different from the New York Post in its bias for sensationalism. I trust you're aware of the potential bias here?

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 11, 2021:

@PBuck0145 As a skeptic I try to avoid the Kool-Aid line. 😉 Peace.

So shocking!

phxbillcee comments on Jun 10, 2021:

Obviously that actress doesn't follow QAnon!

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 11, 2021:

Which actress?

So shocking!

OldGoat43 comments on Jun 11, 2021:

What a shame, and in this day and age.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 11, 2021:

Huh?

Russian media laughs at 'dumbest guy in Congress' Louie Gohmert for asking Forest Service to move ...

BD66 comments on Jun 10, 2021:

I watched the clip, and I think he made that comment to illustrate the futility of US government agencies trying to control the Earth's climate. However I'm not 100% sure that was what he intended to say.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 11, 2021:

@BD66 Very well, in your view Louis Gohmert has employed a unique deadpan (straightfaced) delivery in a response that otherwise would be a total fail. Touchet Louis?

'Quick fixes' to the climate crisis risk harming nature [bbc.com]

barjoe comments on Jun 10, 2021:

So is it better to do nothing? Maybe it is.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 10, 2021:

No, that is not what the article concludes. “[S]simple 'quick fixes'", such as tree planting or technological innovations, are shown to be ineffective (and sometimes actively harmful) when implemented without a holistic approach.” I read this to say, “Time to step up your game and provide a holistic approach.”

Russian media laughs at 'dumbest guy in Congress' Louie Gohmert for asking Forest Service to move ...

WayneDalton comments on Jun 10, 2021:

Definitely not one of our best and brightest.🤬

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 10, 2021:

Ya think? 😉

Russian media laughs at 'dumbest guy in Congress' Louie Gohmert for asking Forest Service to move ...

BD66 comments on Jun 10, 2021:

I watched the clip, and I think he made that comment to illustrate the futility of US government agencies trying to control the Earth's climate. However I'm not 100% sure that was what he intended to say.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 10, 2021:

What video did you watch? It’s clear from the reaction of the woman to whom he addressed the question that he was not being sarcastic or ironic. Watch it again. We’re not talking about a comedian or late night TV host with standup comedy skills here! This is yet another in a long line of public statements made by Louis… it’s just another ‘Gohmert!’

Got to love it.

Holysocks comments on Jun 9, 2021:

I am extremely proud of my Scottish blood. We will punch you in the throat if you come at us.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 9, 2021:

I have Scottish ancestry (MacPherson clan) … been to the highlands and love Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 dearly!

Richard Dawkins with some brilliant, often too polite - answers to questions from religious folk.

PBuck0145 comments on Jun 9, 2021:

Dawkins is a brilliant evolutionary biologist. His views on religion are objective and mostly irrefutable. He is, however, an elitist and abhors any form of populism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe4feBH0ABk

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 9, 2021:

But shouldn't we all abhor populism which gives democracies demagogues and strongmen?

A number of years ago I had a nice conversation with a Professor of Comparative Religions in which I...

Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jun 7, 2021:

About 20 years ago, when I first started teaching a local community college, the department head of the sociology department (which included comparative religion classes) told me that he never hired an instructor who had a divinity degree--the reasons were obvious. That chair went elsewhere and I...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 9, 2021:

Hiring a self-avowed Christian to teach comparative religions is a bit like hiring a Google engineer to teach comparative search engines! ;-)

WHO GAVE THE NATION'S KEYS TO THESE IDIOTS?

racocn8 comments on Jun 9, 2021:

Putin and his useful idiots, the Evangelicals.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 9, 2021:

You got it! An ignorant, bloviating politician is an ideal weapon against a democracy.

Once More, Into the World of "You Can't Make this Up!": [rawstory.com]

RobertNappi2 comments on Jun 9, 2021:

I think he drank too much KOOL-AID!!!

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 9, 2021:

As did those who voted for him!

[centerforinquiry.org] My sympathy is with the people of Ohio

Zster comments on Jun 8, 2021:

And back to the Dark Ages we go...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 8, 2021:

@FrayedBear Well, there was a brief period in history known as The Enlightenment.

I suppose that if your only concept of reality comes from superstitious beliefs and religious dogma,...

Willow_Wisp comments on Jun 8, 2021:

This simple misunderstanding is why young Earth Creationist continue to think the academic world simply has a different opinion then they do. Pay attention! Albert Einstein hated Quantum Mechanics, and so did most of the scientist of his era. Their consensus wasn't based on opinions or the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 8, 2021:

@Willow_Wisp I apologize for the sarcasm, but my silly quote of a creationist / intelligent design meme that was popular some years ago was made in jest! Peace. https://youtu.be/S6oOLJ_zbm0 https://youtu.be/zR96fau1HIU

I suppose that if your only concept of reality comes from superstitious beliefs and religious dogma,...

Willow_Wisp comments on Jun 8, 2021:

This simple misunderstanding is why young Earth Creationist continue to think the academic world simply has a different opinion then they do. Pay attention! Albert Einstein hated Quantum Mechanics, and so did most of the scientist of his era. Their consensus wasn't based on opinions or the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 8, 2021:

Come on, just “teach the ‘controversy!’” 😉

Homophobic preacher has meltdown over tolerant preaching

mischl comments on Jun 8, 2021:

My only question is: Do you spell whacko with the "H," or is it just plain wacko?

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 8, 2021:

I thought it was whacko, like whacked, or whack job? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whacko

U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time

JackPedigo comments on Jun 7, 2021:

So now we can expect more vitriolic lies, finger pointing and name calling from the clergy who are starting to lose their ill gotten gains.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 8, 2021:

Last gasps of an endangered species headed toward extinction.

U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time

DenoPenno comments on Jun 8, 2021:

In time the Internet will be the death of god. When I was young we all had to wait a week and then ask the preacher.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 8, 2021:

I’m not too sure about the Internet being responsible for the death of God. After all, the Internet has been responsible for a boatload of bad ideas, such as electing Trump and other demagogues. Increased education and critical thinking skills combined with relying on oneself for answers rather than surrendering to an unsubstantiated authority figure are necessary in putting an end to credulity.

Jerry Falwell Jr.

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 7, 2021:

The decision decades ago by the GOP, led by Ronald Reagan, to ally themselves with the so-called 'moral majority' was the beginning of the end for this political party. In lying down with these hypocritical dogs, the Republican party is now infested with fleas.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 7, 2021:

@johnnyrobish Thanks, And thanks for your post! I think it’s safe to say that the old guard Republicans who stood for church-state separation are extinct. Here’s a quote from one of their dinosaurs: “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.“ Senator Barry Goldwater, Jr.

Censorship, lightly veiled as 'fact checking' has gotten out of hand.

BDair comments on Jun 7, 2021:

Something to read. http://www.renegadetribune.com/who-fact-checks-health-and-science-on-facebook/

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 7, 2021:

@BDair While I would agree with the proposition that, as Karl Popper noted, scientific knowledge is provisional, there are some scientific facts that one would have thought were settled, the shape of our planet being one of them. The fact that one can find all manner of fringe theories and “citizen scientist” idiocy on social media is not a commentary on science or the scientific method. Rather, it is a reflection of society in general. That the social network would seek to undertake a fact checking mission on its billions of users is, in my opinion, a fools errand! The average consumer of social media is not so much in need of protection as they are in need of an education, particularly in the area of critical thinking and reasoning skills. We must all be our own fact checkers, and when presented with an assertion of any kind, consider the source.

Divine Hiddenness | Kenny-OK | Atheist Experience 25.22 [youtube.com]

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 4, 2021:

Poor Kenny just doesn’t get it, does he? His long winded explanation involving the Bible, Elijah and his assertion that God told him what book to read demonstrate his lack of understanding regarding the divine hiddenness problem, one of the first issues I had with God before I realized he wasn’t...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 5, 2021:

@phxbillcee We appear to share similar constructs, you and I.

People have opinions.

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 4, 2021:

There’s an old saying that people have a right to their own opinions, however they do not have a right to their own facts! It would seem reasonable to have a COVID passport that cites the existence of antibodies due to exposure or illness, as an option for that small fraction (<10%) of the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 4, 2021:

@BDair Approximately 28 million people in the US are known to have been infected with the coronavirus and have recovered. That is why I suggested that less than 10% of the US population would qualify four an immunity passport of some kind that doesn’t cite a vaccination date. If an antibody test is insufficient, perhaps a document demonstrating the individual was at one time infected and tested positive for Covid would suffice?

Whatever turns them on, I guess...

p-nullifidian comments on Jun 1, 2021:

Yup ... and Christianity is the only religious faith that proudly displays an implement of execution as its primary symbol. If Jesus were born in revolutionary France, Christian churches would all be adorned with guillotines, and if he were born in Alabama, Christians would be wearing little ...

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 1, 2021:

@racocn8 Jesus! I never heard of that before!

Is it better to stay silent?

p-nullifidian comments on May 28, 2021:

I have no problem staying silent when it comes to discussing philosophy or religion ... it's pretty much what I do at every family gathering. But when it comes to attempts by the faithful to impose their belief systems in the political sphere and society as a whole, I cannot ever remain silent.

p-nullifidian replies on Jun 1, 2021:

@Ryo1 Footwear? https://www.projectblitz.com

I think it is past time to call employers out on this, as well as all the contractors that pass ...

p-nullifidian comments on May 28, 2021:

As a landlord who didn’t plan to be one (I’m helping my 83-year-old father rent his home while he’s in assisted living), I have seen both sides of this issue play out. My father’s tenant hasn’t paid rent in months, taking advantage of the moratorium on evictions here in California. ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 29, 2021:

@glennlab As the old saying goes, 'shoulda, coulda, woulda.' When stimulus checks are sent to renters who know they can effectively squat in a property without consequences, it's inevitable that some will take advantage of this circumstance. All of this began during the previous administration, and continues during the present one. Housing, whether in rent or a mortgage, is always the single largest and most easily identified expense, and if the government were to truly have been of assistance it would have set up a system that channeled rent and mortgage payments directly to landlords and / or lenders, rather than throwing money at renters without any accountability. Because of the fact that lenders and financial institutions are allowed to conduct business as usual (i.e., reporting late or missed payments to credit bureaus and, worst of all, foreclosure), my father and I have our nuts in a vice. Our reserves include money that was to go for his future care needs. We'll never get our savings back because property owners like my father and I (and there are a vast number of mom and pop landlords like us) have been left without a chair when the music stopped playing!

Is it better to stay silent?

Krish55 comments on May 28, 2021:

Sorry, but this is most likely an inaccurate meme that does more harm than good. The religious argument against Darwin is that he was an atheist who sought to bring down religion by coming up with the theory of evolution. Darwin, however, was no atheist activist. He merely sought to understand...

p-nullifidian replies on May 28, 2021:

Well put. It was ‘Darwin’s Bulldog’ (Thomas Henry Huxley) after all who coined the term ‘agnostic.’

Is it better to stay silent?

p-nullifidian comments on May 28, 2021:

I have no problem staying silent when it comes to discussing philosophy or religion ... it's pretty much what I do at every family gathering. But when it comes to attempts by the faithful to impose their belief systems in the political sphere and society as a whole, I cannot ever remain silent.

p-nullifidian replies on May 28, 2021:

@Ryo1 Christian nationalists and their ilk interpret the Constitution in their own way and to suit their own purposes, as we all do. Most of them love the 2nd amendment, but when it comes to the 1st amendment, particularly the establishment clause, they often thumb their noses at it, on the state and local levels, through efforts to, for instance, reintroduce school prayer, installing the 10 commandments in public facilities and channeling taxpayer dollars to families for tuition at church run schools via voucher programs.

"The most affluent and the most miserable of the human race are to be found in the countries that ...

waitingforgodo comments on May 26, 2021:

No bones about it, Thomas Paine was handsomely gifted with insight into equity. His observation in this instance can only be true in terms of wealth disparity. If people want equity then they must contact every legislative representative. Thanks for the enlightenment in what should be ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 26, 2021:

If you are familiar with the essay you will no doubt recall that Agrarian Justice calls for estate taxes, Social Security and guaranteed basic income starting at age 21. Paine was way ahead of his time.

By nature men are nearly alike; by practice, they get to be wide apart. --Confucius

p-nullifidian comments on May 24, 2021:

I disagree with this. By nature we are not alike, but our practices (or cultures) attempt to unite us. To quote the Great Agnositic: "Do we not know that there are no two persons alike in the whole world? No two trees, no two leaves, no two anything that are alike? Infinite diversity is the law. ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 24, 2021:

@MizJ Very true, but the wiring in our minds that makes even identical twins unique is what individuates us. My point was a simple one: our practices, in my experience, are just as 'binding' as they are dividing, perhaps more so. The relgions and cultures we devise are particularly proficient conformity machines.

“There are two basic motivating forces: fear and love.

mcgeo52 comments on May 23, 2021:

If you really want to know what is wrong with the US, just realize that Fox News [sic] has been broadcasting a constant stream of fear for decades.

p-nullifidian replies on May 24, 2021:

@Marionville As have tyrants in robes! Christianity, with its end times eschatology, lends itself to a philosophy of gradual decline and othering. If you were taught from an early age how bad things will get ("wars and rumors of wars") before Jesus returns to 'cleanse' everything and take the faithful with him to heaven, two key thoughts will occupy your mind: 1) that others who have differing beliefs or practices are not to be trusted; and 2) that our planet is but a waiting room, not our final destination, and is therefore of limited value. Is it any wonder that Faux News is so popular among Evangelical Christians?

I'm about to finish my sample and thinking about purchasing.

hankster comments on May 23, 2021:

pancakes are true too, and made truer with butter and syrup...and milk.

p-nullifidian replies on May 24, 2021:

Ah, but not flatter! ;-)

Shit and puke for Jesus! Teens targeted with racist & anti-gay abuse at Christian camps A...

TomMcGiverin comments on May 21, 2021:

Gee, and to think I grew up thinking that summer camps were supposed to be fun....further proof that finding Jesus is the ultimate snipe hunt...

p-nullifidian replies on May 21, 2021:

I remember taking 'newbies' on those! Seems cruel, now that I look back.

Shit and puke for Jesus! Teens targeted with racist & anti-gay abuse at Christian camps A...

nogod4me comments on May 21, 2021:

"We all know that any emotional bias -- irrespective of truth or falsity -- can be implanted by suggestion in the emotions of the young, hence the inherited traditions of an orthodox community are absolutely without evidential value.... If religion were true, its followers would not try to bludgeon ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 21, 2021:

"Is it desirable that all should be exactly alike in their religious convictions? Is any such thing possible? Do we not know that there are no two persons alike in the whole world? No two trees, no two leaves, no two anything that are alike? Infinite diversity is the law. Religion tries to force all minds into one mold. Knowing that all cannot believe, the church endeavors to make all say they believe. She longs for the unity of hypocrisy, and detests the splendid diversity of individuality and freedom." Robert Green Ingersoll, "Individuality," 1873

"Gone with the Moist Wind" 🤣

Word comments on May 19, 2021:

Saving moist privates Ryan Tomorrow never dies moist The man with the golden moist gun You only live moist twice On her majesty's secret moist service From Russia with moist love No time to die moist Dead Moist poets society The full moist Monty The 40-year old moist virgin Moist ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 20, 2021:

@Word Moist excellent! :-)

"Gone with the Moist Wind" 🤣

Word comments on May 19, 2021:

Saving moist privates Ryan Tomorrow never dies moist The man with the golden moist gun You only live moist twice On her majesty's secret moist service From Russia with moist love No time to die moist Dead Moist poets society The full moist Monty The 40-year old moist virgin Moist ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 20, 2021:

The point of this goofy exercise was to add (moist) to a movie title, not replace a word with it. ;-)

Putting aside all other issues: if atheists are right, why does anything matter at all?

Mb_Man comments on May 17, 2021:

It is all about what you make of it. When your are not bound to being an obedient follower of a vindictive psychopath, the world is your oyster. Though many of us here the saying *Once In A Lifetime*, it is literally the case here. This is it. Your time here is limited. As such, what do you feel...

p-nullifidian replies on May 18, 2021:

But isn't death (from natural causes) an example of entropy? ;-)

“There are only two emotions: love and fear.

Cyklone comments on May 18, 2021:

Bullshit: Perhaps hate flows from fear, but not anger. Anger can flow from love as readily as from fear. When you see people being persecuted for no better reason than their race or culture then anger is an appropriate emotion, flowing from compassion and love. And I can remember walking down the...

p-nullifidian replies on May 18, 2021:

Like love, fear is a multifaceted emotion. Just as the love I have for my spouse differs from the love I have for others, the fear experienced in the unknown journey of matrimony differs from the fear of a perceived threat or an unknown culture.

Just a question

godlessinal comments on May 17, 2021:

No because remember in the Bible, that the the flat Earth is covered by a firmament, which is like a glass dome. So the flood with a completely filled up the firmament.

p-nullifidian replies on May 17, 2021:

And when there’s an earthquake it snows! 😉

This is a worry.

powder comments on May 13, 2021:

Comments here are a worry. They are two totally unrelated and separate issues. Vaccination is a medical science that can be monitored, repeated, measured etc and will be modified if new information comes to light. You don't believe science, you either accept or reject it. Vaccination is a ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 14, 2021:

"Effective vaccines will sell themselves." If that were only the case! The problem here is simple. The same mindset that gives us religion provides us with flat earther, QAnon following, pro-Trump, anti-science anti-vaxxers. Just as people refused to practice social distancing and wear masks, they will proudly refuse to vaccinate themselves. And if a sufficient number do so, they become hosts to perpetuate the pandemic and infect the poor few whose compromised immunity prevented them from inoculating themselves. In a democracy, the majority who wish to move beyond the pandemic and prevent any further spread or mutations will demand that the minority who eschew the vaccine either volunteer to participate or be coerced to do so.

I put this up as a response in another topic, but I thought it deserved a post of its own.

p-nullifidian comments on May 13, 2021:

Before deciding on whether or not it's appropriate within families, perhaps we should begin with institutionalized corporal punishment? There remain a significant number of states where corporal punishment is permitted in the schools. ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 13, 2021:

@Cyklone I don't disagree that all levels need to be addressed, but the low hanging fruit is the public schools. Banning corporal punishment at the hands of teachers and principals in the public schools would seem less of challenge than banning such in private or parochial schools and churches. To ban corporal punishment in the home will be the last and most difficult hurdle.

Theoretical physics is the field that develops theories about how nature operates.

p-nullifidian comments on May 10, 2021:

And the Theory of Relativity was not scientific then?

p-nullifidian replies on May 12, 2021:

@yvilletom I am clearly a lay person, but this article may shed some light on the subject. 😉 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-019-0524-6

Theoretical physics is the field that develops theories about how nature operates.

p-nullifidian comments on May 10, 2021:

And the Theory of Relativity was not scientific then?

p-nullifidian replies on May 11, 2021:

@yvilletom And yet it somehow predicted scientific observations made years later, such as gravitational lensing and gravitational waves. Not bad for an 'unscientific' theory.

Gods Body count in the Old Testament.

barjoe comments on May 9, 2021:

Who did Satan kill in the bible?

p-nullifidian replies on May 10, 2021:

@abyers1970 Like the Duke brothers in Trading Places, God and Satan bet on Job’s ability to remain true and faithful under the pressure of unspeakable loss. God gets full credit here as he agreed to the bet, and could have prevented these deaths, or so the story goes. Godfuckery at its highest!

Gods Body count in the Old Testament.

AmmaRE007 comments on May 9, 2021:

I think that they killed more than KILL Bill movie.

p-nullifidian replies on May 10, 2021:

Quentin Tarantino emulates God. 😉

Daniel Dennett on natural selection

brentan comments on May 5, 2021:

It does. It describes humans improving over time due to learning instead of degenerating over time because of sin.

p-nullifidian replies on May 7, 2021:

@MsKathleen Pretty much every point you make resonates with me. After all, look who I've chosen as my avatar ... an 18th century writer and philosopher who despised privilege and advocated (in his tract, Agrarian Justice) for a universal basic income! Peace.

Daniel Dennett on natural selection

brentan comments on May 5, 2021:

It does. It describes humans improving over time due to learning instead of degenerating over time because of sin.

p-nullifidian replies on May 7, 2021:

@MsKathleen What, pray tell, are your metrics for improvement?

Daniel Dennett on natural selection

brentan comments on May 5, 2021:

It does. It describes humans improving over time due to learning instead of degenerating over time because of sin.

p-nullifidian replies on May 6, 2021:

@MsKathleen When looking at history through the lens of our lifespans it’s understandable that one might not notice improvement. But when we compare where we are today to any other point in history, where would you really rather be? A century ago, during a time when our knowledge of diseases was limited, our personal hygiene was dubious and life expectancy was less than half what it is today, 500 million people were infected by the Spanish flu killing 50 million. And yet less than 12 months from the start of the Coronavirus pandemic I was fortunate enough to be vaccinated against COVID 19. And as Steven Pinker has identified in his book, The Better Angels of Our Nature, violence in our species has significantly declined, over time. Yes, we must continue to clean up our environment, but we’ve begun to identify and eliminate the toxins, and our diets are evolving from an over-reliance on meats and crappy food in cans to organically certified produce and a reduced dependency on meat.

Daniel Dennett on natural selection

brentan comments on May 5, 2021:

It does. It describes humans improving over time due to learning instead of degenerating over time because of sin.

p-nullifidian replies on May 6, 2021:

@MsKathleen You’re kidding, right?

This can't be said enough

nogod4me comments on May 4, 2021:

What is worse is the indifference that the victims suffer from those who still "respect" and defend religion and belief, and will not hold these criminals accountable.

p-nullifidian replies on May 4, 2021:

Indeed! Unwilling or unable to think for themselves, the sheeple continue to surrender their intellects to rabbis, imams, pastors and priests, as if these imposters and con artists were even necessary! Does any rational human being, when given the opportunity to ponder the question, think a supreme being would be incapable of communication without a middle man to act as a translator?

Someone again asked if agnostics are scared to say they are atheists.

waitingforgodo comments on May 3, 2021:

Scintillating syntactic summary: "If someone thinks God is the universe, than I believe there is a universe and that ones definition of God by default. Its not an arguement or at least I don't beg one". Who is above petitio principii or a beggar's belief? Could this be the clash of the ...

p-nullifidian replies on May 4, 2021:

I'm down with that! ;-)

Pakistan PM Imran Khan calls for Muslim countries to force Western governments to criminalise ...

NostraDumbass comments on May 3, 2021:

Blasphemy is a victimless crime, therefore not a crime at all.

p-nullifidian replies on May 3, 2021:

Indeed! An almighty being is, by definition, incapable of being injured. Thus, blasphemy is merely an excuse to enforce conformity.

There was a video that was removed soon before a lot had seen it.

Krish55 comments on Apr 22, 2021:

If you really want people to leave Islam, fight for the following: 1. An end to US regime-change which has supported Islamic fanatics in the US attempt to control Muslim countries. 2. And end to US exploitation which breeds the miserable conditions that causes the masses to follow the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 24, 2021:

@Krish55 Okay, so at least you now appear willing to “spread the blame.” The US is no longer the sole offender, as Western Imperialism replaces US Imperialism, but for some strange reason you seem intent on making it ‘mine’ in using the term ‘your’ as if I claimed ownership. I must confess that I find myself unable to continue this discourse. Your insistence on a singular explanation for the ills of the world combined with your hesitance to recognize other mitigating factors serve to undermine reasonable discussions. I find your singleminded unflinching adamant vilification of US foreign policy combined with an uncommon devotion to a particular political point of view, akin to a religious doctrine and as such of questionable logic and sensibility. Agnosticism is philosophically inconsistent with hardcore zealotry.

There was a video that was removed soon before a lot had seen it.

Krish55 comments on Apr 22, 2021:

If you really want people to leave Islam, fight for the following: 1. An end to US regime-change which has supported Islamic fanatics in the US attempt to control Muslim countries. 2. And end to US exploitation which breeds the miserable conditions that causes the masses to follow the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 23, 2021:

@Krish55 “The single biggest fundamental cause of backwardness in the world today is US Imperialism.” The entire world? One must examine each country’s failures and successes on a case-by-case basis. I agree that many countries in Latin America have been the target of US meddling, but sub-Saharan Africa has, if anything, been ignored. More than double the foreign direct investment (FDI) comes from China and EU nations than from the US (source: Brookings). Cost Rica, which was never invaded by the US, was pleased to have been left alone, but its success is tied to its choice to eliminate its army, educate its populace, engage in land reform and pattern its monetary policies after Switzerland. Is the US to be blamed for the vast poverty in India, a nation that went nuclear before it had internal plumbing, and relied on the support of the Soviet Union for decades? Speaking of which, the rise of the repressive Taliban regime was spurred by the Soviet invasion and occupation of Afghanistan (1979-89). The US has been, and continues to be, a hegemonic actor in a number of regions of the world, but it is not, IMO, the greatest reason for the lack of progress in every nation of the world. Whether at the micro or macro level, the most relevant factor in the elimination of poverty has always been education, particularly of girls / women. In countries where women are educated and given greater opportunity, the birth rate drops and household income rises (see Hans Rosling’s TED Talk on Religion, Babies and Poverty). And as we know, access to education is determined by the priorities of each country.

There was a video that was removed soon before a lot had seen it.

Krish55 comments on Apr 22, 2021:

If you really want people to leave Islam, fight for the following: 1. An end to US regime-change which has supported Islamic fanatics in the US attempt to control Muslim countries. 2. And end to US exploitation which breeds the miserable conditions that causes the masses to follow the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 23, 2021:

@Krish55 Please know that I am open to debate and a logical representation of points of view. I am willing if you are, to engage in a discussion regarding failed US foreign policy as it pertains to the Muslim world.

There was a video that was removed soon before a lot had seen it.

Krish55 comments on Apr 22, 2021:

If you really want people to leave Islam, fight for the following: 1. An end to US regime-change which has supported Islamic fanatics in the US attempt to control Muslim countries. 2. And end to US exploitation which breeds the miserable conditions that causes the masses to follow the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 22, 2021:

@Krish55 How did we even get on this topic? The original issue was simply this: 4 million persons leaving their religion. This is a positive step that we should celebrate, so why must we focus on negatives that are not even ancillary to the initial subject? I am baffled by this detour!

There was a video that was removed soon before a lot had seen it.

Krish55 comments on Apr 22, 2021:

If you really want people to leave Islam, fight for the following: 1. An end to US regime-change which has supported Islamic fanatics in the US attempt to control Muslim countries. 2. And end to US exploitation which breeds the miserable conditions that causes the masses to follow the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 22, 2021:

@Krish55 When one leaps to such conclusions, as you have done here, one is guilty of prejudging. I am well aware of the failures of US foreign policy, do not support our cozy relationship with the Kingdom, and routinely check my privilege. But these issues are red herrings (particularly the ad hominem of white superiority) as they have nothing to do with the central topic in this post, nor my reply to your attempt to link this topic to US foreign policy. Namely, that leaving one's religious faith--in this case, Islam--is a positive sign to be applauded.

There was a video that was removed soon before a lot had seen it.

Krish55 comments on Apr 22, 2021:

If you really want people to leave Islam, fight for the following: 1. An end to US regime-change which has supported Islamic fanatics in the US attempt to control Muslim countries. 2. And end to US exploitation which breeds the miserable conditions that causes the masses to follow the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 22, 2021:

That the United States is to blame for militant or extremist Islam is a simplistic, yet oft heard trope, and is rejected by well-known ex-Muslims like Ayan Hirsi Ali and Faisal Saeed Al Mutar. Religious fervor and fundamentalist repression exists with or without the presence of the bogeyman, USA. The cure here is the expansion of societal secularization combined with improvements in educational and income equity. In other words, the Scandinavian model versus the Saudi Arabian one.

Louisiana Cops Arrest COVID-19-Defying Pastor Tony Spell for Aggravated Assault | Hemant Mehta | ...

Castlepaloma comments on Apr 21, 2021:

What is so bad for not liking how the handling of the covid is done. Its bad enough over one type of death compared 10 other greater ways go die are more ignored now. A lot of onesideness bullying is going on around here.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 21, 2021:

"Onesideness bullying[?]" How would you recommend the pandemic be dealt with?

Ockham’s razor, Russell’s teapot, and the lottery paradox.

Cyklone comments on Apr 20, 2021:

My philosophical position is more along the lines of, "I don't believe there is a god but more to the point, I just don't bloody care!"

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 21, 2021:

Indeed! I'm leaning your way with each year that passes. Even if there were a 'supreme being' its existence has no relevance to me, any more than my existence has upon an amoeba in a nearby pond!

Ockham’s razor, Russell’s teapot, and the lottery paradox.

p-nullifidian comments on Apr 20, 2021:

And as a nullifidian (one who is without faith or religious belief), I am amazed at how some find it important to make a strident distinction between the 'agnostic' and 'atheist' labels. If our beliefs are informed by our understanding of the facts (i.e., knowledge), then I see no reason why one ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 21, 2021:

@johannesweg IMHO, the aim should not be to prevent belief, per se, but to prune beliefs that are not supported by evidence, and are therefore a matter of faith. To quote Peter Boghossian, "'Faith' is the word one uses when one does not have enough evidence to justify holding a belief, but when one just goes ahead and believes anyway.” This is not a description of the scientific method. As far as there being an afterlife, while I am a skeptic, and consider this life as the only one I will have, I remain open to new discoveries. Of one thing I am confident, if there were a form of existence that we have yet to identify, it would be a natural phenomenon, one that is identifiable, quantifiable and repeatable.

This 10 year old video from an atheist channel (Qualia Soup) which I never paid any attention to, ...

anglophone comments on Apr 18, 2021:

Yes, that is a very good summary of what I have been saying for years.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 18, 2021:

@Rossy92 They do sound much alike, but according to RationalWiki, they're brothers. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/TheraminTrees

This 10 year old video from an atheist channel (Qualia Soup) which I never paid any attention to, ...

anglophone comments on Apr 18, 2021:

Yes, that is a very good summary of what I have been saying for years.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 18, 2021:

@Rossy92 it’s been a few years, but as I recall, Theramin Trees (perhaps both?) were ‘recovering’ Jehovahs Witnesses.

This 10 year old video from an atheist channel (Qualia Soup) which I never paid any attention to, ...

anglophone comments on Apr 18, 2021:

Yes, that is a very good summary of what I have been saying for years.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 18, 2021:

Qualia Soup’s brother, Theramin Trees, is also a good YouTuber on the topic of religious belief..

For all the theists out there posing as agnostics and calling me a Gnostic Atheist.

p-nullifidian comments on Apr 16, 2021:

I've never completely understood the distinction between agnosticism and atheism. For example, everything I've ever read by Robert Green Ingersoll (the 'Great Agnostic' of the 19th century) resonates, and I'm just as comfortable with the label atheist as I am with the label of agnostic. I identify, ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 17, 2021:

@xenoview Indeed! Which is why, as one who lacks any knowledge (or fact pattern) of any deity upon which to base a belief, I am equally comfortable with both “labels.”

For all the theists out there posing as agnostics and calling me a Gnostic Atheist.

mischl comments on Apr 16, 2021:

I have only one belief, which is "Belief is a dirty word." I don't assume anything in the universe to be true until I get the proof.** (Edited. Sorry, I must have been half asleep when I wrote the original.)

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 16, 2021:

@mischl No need to apologize... we’re all humans. Peace.

For all the theists out there posing as agnostics and calling me a Gnostic Atheist.

mischl comments on Apr 16, 2021:

I have only one belief, which is "Belief is a dirty word." I don't assume anything in the universe to be true until I get the proof.** (Edited. Sorry, I must have been half asleep when I wrote the original.)

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 16, 2021:

"Everything else in the universe I'm just assuming is true until I get the proof." If I understand this position correctly, to simply assume something is 'true' (i.e., factual) while waiting for the 'proof' is, IMHO, illogical.

Just when You MIGHT Have thought It Was Safe to go Into The Water, Again?: [alternet.org]

Deb57 comments on Apr 16, 2021:

How ironic. As if Angles and Saxons were the least bit American in their origins...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 16, 2021:

Exactly! Maybe some of these people think the Colonies should have never rebelled, and that we were still a member of the UK Commonwealth?

My new definition of stupidity is individuals who find extraordinarily Simple Solutions to ...

p-nullifidian comments on Apr 13, 2021:

And sometimes solutions to problems are Occam's Razor-like, while the problems themselves are either nonexistent or are made to appear inordinately complex by those who would benefit from the status quo.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 14, 2021:

@Kojaksmom Not exactly. Generally speaking, Occam's Razor is the philosophical or scientific rule that articulates that the simplest of competing theories or solutions be preferred to the more complex. The equation E=mc2 is a prime example of Occam's Razor in practice.

My new definition of stupidity is individuals who find extraordinarily Simple Solutions to ...

rainmanjr comments on Apr 13, 2021:

Solutions are often simple. Arriving at them and being able to enact them are often complex but the solution, itself, is simple. The solution to racism is love, if that's the problem you're referring to, Love is a very hard thing to define, let alone live by, but the best one I've seen is "A ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 14, 2021:

@Kojaksmom Indeed! Culture is a choice, not a birthright.

So! today April 13th.

Fernapple comments on Apr 13, 2021:

Don't feel too bad, there are not many in Christian lands, who give much up for Lent either.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 13, 2021:

@Basem Indeed! But many Hindus and other polytheists waste their food in this fashion.

My new definition of stupidity is individuals who find extraordinarily Simple Solutions to ...

rainmanjr comments on Apr 13, 2021:

Solutions are often simple. Arriving at them and being able to enact them are often complex but the solution, itself, is simple. The solution to racism is love, if that's the problem you're referring to, Love is a very hard thing to define, let alone live by, but the best one I've seen is "A ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 13, 2021:

Self-driving cars would also effectively eliminate DUI's and the loss of life and property associated with driving while intoxicated.

So I just watched the commercial where they're trying to convert people and you had to say a prayer ...

p-nullifidian comments on Apr 10, 2021:

According to Christian doctrine, all are sinners (with the exception of Christ), and only through the acceptance of Jesus Christ may one's sins be cleansed. The immorality of Christianity is laid bare in this doctrine. All a mass murderer must do is confess, even at their deathbed, and all may be ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 11, 2021:

@Fernapple The clergy have always known this, and thus allied themselves with the halls of power so that they too might enrich themselves upon the backs of the people. The altar and the throne have always been in league with one another, to the great detriment of their citizens.

So I just watched the commercial where they're trying to convert people and you had to say a prayer ...

p-nullifidian comments on Apr 10, 2021:

According to Christian doctrine, all are sinners (with the exception of Christ), and only through the acceptance of Jesus Christ may one's sins be cleansed. The immorality of Christianity is laid bare in this doctrine. All a mass murderer must do is confess, even at their deathbed, and all may be ...

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 11, 2021:

@lerlo The largest Christian faith by far is the Catholic Church, wherein confession of sins is made to a priest.

COVID-Denying Pastor: Wearing Face Masks Means Promoting a Secular Religion | Hemant Mehta | ...

barjoe comments on Apr 8, 2021:

Oh fuck him. Moron.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 8, 2021:

You go first, I'll watch ;-)

If vaccine passports become a thing, needed to enter certain venues/ businesses, who would be ...

racocn8 comments on Apr 7, 2021:

It depends on whether the vaccinations are effective against the new variants.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 7, 2021:

@powder Wait, the 60's or 70's? The decades of 'free love' when the worst STDs were crabs and gonorrhea? How our risk calculus has changed!

Thanks for the lift....

p-nullifidian comments on Apr 3, 2021:

Looks Photoshopped ... look at the shadows of the cat.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 4, 2021:

@Druvius Happens to me all the time ... could use some “Brain Beano!” 😉

Thanks for the lift....

p-nullifidian comments on Apr 3, 2021:

Looks Photoshopped ... look at the shadows of the cat.

p-nullifidian replies on Apr 3, 2021:

@Druvius Swan? That water fowl is a Canada goose. 😉

Does religion work without magical beings at its center?

p-nullifidian comments on Mar 25, 2021:

"You can't build a religion around a guy named Henry from Ohio unless Henry can resurrect the dead or walk on water." Maybe not a guy named Henry from Ohio, but a guy named Joe Smith from upstate New York succeeded in starting a religion that now numbers over 16 million members, just by saying an...

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 26, 2021:

@Sgt_Spanky I understand the distinction you're making, but whether the name is Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White, Mohammed, Jesus Christ or Moses, self-anointed prophets make claims regarding their 'special' abilities to communicate with a 'higher power' who imparts (according to the prophet) knowledge and guidance that become religious teaching and doctrine. And while followers rally around the so-called prophet during their lifetime, it takes their death to allow for them to be elevated, if not deified, through the fabrication of wonders and miracles. These self-serving narcissists I have mentioned, and others, may have claimed that God was at the center, but it was always all about them. Remove the prophet from the equation, and the religion would not have existed.

If this so called god actually exists.

Mofo1953 comments on Mar 16, 2021:

Came out of someone's ass.

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 17, 2021:

In engineering, when offering an 'off-the-cuff' response to a question from management, we called it a PIDOOMA ... pulled it directly out of my ass! ;-)

Even animals can be

Surfpirate comments on Mar 17, 2021:

Honey Badger don't give a fuck about nothin' be like Honey Badger. :D

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 17, 2021:

Look how badass! :-)

Religious people tend to begin with their conclusions, then work backwards looking for arguments ...

Canndue comments on Mar 15, 2021:

Alas, another foray into the world of generalizations..... ...and thus spoke the non- lord, and the faithless lined up to pile on....

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 15, 2021:

Maybe a better way of making the point might have been to avoid personalization? Something like: Religious thinking generally involves adopting conclusions that require the believer to retroactively search for supporting arguments, while ignoring evidence to the contrary. This type of thinking excels at inventing supernatural explanations to rationalize a belief in the face of inconvenient facts. Better?

It is interesting to note a few people are killed by the police and all of a sudden there are large ...

skado comments on Mar 12, 2021:

Where did all the woads go?

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 12, 2021:

@FearlessFly "Woads wead to Wome," don't you mean? I have a fwiend there ... his name is Biggus Dickus. ;-)

When the royals complain about stuff, this is what I see.

Joanne comments on Mar 11, 2021:

Just because someone is born into wealth, or has made a lot of money, it does not mean they are immune to pain, or being harmed in any way. They still have human emotions and it is wrong to act like they don't have the right to feel them because they are financially secure. Harry lost his mother ...

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 12, 2021:

@RoboGraham Second-generation billionaires, perhaps, but self-made billionaires are not, in my view, a problem. Oprah Winfrey was born into poverty in Mississippi and overcame being molested and impregnated as a 14 year old to be the actress, author and host that she became, and J.K. Rowling was a single mother on the edge of poverty when she published her first Harry Potter book. On what ethical or moral basis would you disposses these women of their earnings?

When the royals complain about stuff, this is what I see.

Joanne comments on Mar 11, 2021:

Just because someone is born into wealth, or has made a lot of money, it does not mean they are immune to pain, or being harmed in any way. They still have human emotions and it is wrong to act like they don't have the right to feel them because they are financially secure. Harry lost his mother ...

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 12, 2021:

@RoboGraham Indeed! The arcane notion of a 'royal family' belongs in the dustbin of history. The very concept that a particular family is genetically qualified to rule is too absurd for refutation. Whether it be Saudi Arabia, Spain, Great Britain or Brunei (to name several), there simply is no justifiable reason for monarchy in the 21st century! Away with kings & queens, princes & princesses, dukes & duchesses, earls & countesses, barons & baronesses, and sultans even--they are parasitic relics who have no reason for being, even in our imaginations (think Wakanda)! Throughout history, the throne has been in league with the altar, and the altar has propped up the throne, a clear demonstration that neither institution is of intrinsic value to the people. Any man or woman whose sole desire is to be a 'subject' (whether it be of crown or church) abdicates their own self-worth, individuality and dignity.

Results From the City That Just Gave Away Cash [npr.org]

barjoe comments on Mar 12, 2021:

Universal Basic Income. Andrew Yang was an advocate for that. He might be the next Governor of NY.

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 12, 2021:

My avatar proposed just such a concept in his 1797 pamphlet titled, Agrarian Justice.

Returning Jesus Christ Downed By U.S. Missile Defense 30,000 Feet Before Making Landfall

racocn8 comments on Mar 11, 2021:

I wouldn't want to kill god, necessarily. I'd have a few questions (first). What would anyone ask? Why does the Bible make no sense? Why do your believers have their heads up their asses? Why are people so hopelessly stupid? Why is your story based on all the other cretinous myths common to the ...

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 11, 2021:

Before I stopped believing in the invisible man in the sky, the one question I was prepared to demand of God was, "Where the hell have you been, goddammit!"

West Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South ...

barjoe comments on Mar 11, 2021:

Red States, Blue States. Not sure if that means anything. Probably.

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 11, 2021:

If longevity is impacted by diet and nutrition, hygiene, exercise, lifestyle, crime rates, access to health care and genetics, what should the residents of these red states do differently if they want to improve their life expectancy?

The Great Scandal: Christianity's Role in the Rise of the Nazis

CuddyCruiser comments on Mar 9, 2021:

The way Hitler brainwashed Germans is no different than the way Trump brainwashed his followers. Hitler blamed Jews and Communists, where Chump blamed Mexicans and those from “shithole countries”. His followers see him as “God” in the same manner as many Germans saw Hitler. They also saw ...

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 11, 2021:

We should also remember that Hitler's ideals and even his appurtenances were happily imported by numerous Americans during the 1930's. The German American Bund sponsored a rally at Madison Square Garden in early 1939 that filled the arena with 20,000 Nazi-saluting American fascist racists and their sympathizers. World War II drove these fasicsts into hiding, but their views are in the DNA of all too many Americans, as recent events have demonstrated. https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2019/02/20/695941323/when-nazis-took-manhattan

Milo Y.

Mofo1953 comments on Mar 10, 2021:

Who the fuck is miloy?

p-nullifidian replies on Mar 10, 2021:

Count yourself lucky you've been spared knowledge of this over-the-top flamboyant narcissist who was made even more famous by being deplatformed from Twitter and appearances at a number of college campuses in the US.