Atoms are odd little suckers Physicists from Cornell University have proved that atoms will not...

richiegtt comments on Dec 10, 2017:

All matter is made up of atoms and molecules that are constantly moving.As far as I know To actually observe atoms they must be lowered to an extremely low temperatures which stops their movement. The higher the temperature the faster they move . If not please Inlighten me

What brings you here?

richiegtt comments on Dec 10, 2017:

I found this site by accident Unfortunately there are not many individuals I know that care to talk about these issues, I was tired of non stimulating conversations .At least your brain gets exercise here

Do you live in the city or country?

richiegtt comments on Dec 10, 2017:

I live in the suburbs of New York City about 17 miles east of Manhattan.This would not be considered the country. Fortunately they can not build any thing near my house because it is adjacent to a City Golf course .Zoning laws prohibit any thing but one family homes ,but people are buying houses up to $800,000, tearing them down and building what they call here Mc Mansions . So actuality they are only paying for the lousy 50 foot by 100 foot lot

I am at odds about the gay couple and the bakery that turned them away.

richiegtt comments on Dec 10, 2017:

If an individual entered a tattoo shop and requested that a swastika themed tattoo be created and tattooed on them ,do you think the artist has the right to refuse .Even though I personally do not share the bakers beliefs ,in principle it is the same thing.This man did not refuse to let them purchase anything but refused to artistically design or create something that were against his moral beliefs .

Are you happy where you now live, and if not,why.

richiegtt comments on Dec 10, 2017:

Living in the suburbs of New York City, I appreciate the cultural diversity and the close proximity to ManhattanI, I also really enjoy the beaches of Long Island . I do not like the cold winters ,and unless you own your own house as I do,housing can be expensive. If I could reside anywhere it would definitely be Kauai Hawaii .

My wife passed away last month.

richiegtt comments on Dec 10, 2017:

I am sorry to say,a woman wants and deserves to be appreciated for more than her looks and brains ,you left out ,compassionate, kind and nurturing,feminine,good sense of humor ,has confidence In herself ,and is open minded ,to name a few. It’s qualities and traits that are important ,look for these and I am sure you will find happiness.

Why is it now an insult to call people snowflakes when snowflakes are so pretty?

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

Their fragile, cold ,and are always falling down,but very dangerous in large numbers.

Family recipes

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

My mother’s Sicilian Tomato sauce that I prefer over any other .I am glad I learned how to make it

Does The Universe Have Intention?

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

Yes .It’s only intention is to follow its own laws of Physics

Have you ever looked back on a belief and later asked yourself how you could have ever believed ...

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

You believe anything when you are a child , Santa, the Easter Bunny , Tooth fairy ,And God .But some people never grow up

Have you noticed how people are bringing their pets into religion?

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

In Manhattan recently ,thousands of people turned up for the Blessing of the pets in a famous Cathedral

Religion is nothing but a security blanket for people who can't cope with the fact that they're not ...

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

That’s a good point, I sometimes ask people that believe in this nonsense,what about the people you do not like,and if you had two dead spouses who are you going to see. I guess you make a list of who you want and who you don’t want to associate with

Is it strange that I morn the loss of animals more than people?

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

It is not strange, many people share this feeling .47 years ago, a dog I loved got killed by a car and I blamed myself . All these years later I sometimes think of this in the middle of the night and become depressed .I still love this dog as much now as then .Their like your children (,which I have one of by the way )

What's your favorite childhood TV show or movie?

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

My favorite TV show was The Twilight Zone . This was produced in the 1960s ,when i was about 12 years old

I don't understand how someone can waste so much time "praying".

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

As a child I actually spent huge amounts of time praying. As a catholic when you go to confession and confess your sins ,the priest then gives you a list of prayers (penance) you must say .I spent hours reciting these moronic bits of ridiculousness.Untill this day I can immediately cecite about 5 off these

As an atheist, I don't believe in an afterlife, reincarnation etc.

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

That is true ,we consist of matter which is continually being recycled ,just like all matter through out the universe

Isn’t it funny when the religious say they will be praying for you?

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

The concept of prayer is ridiculous. The audacity to think a God who they think created the known universe would waste its time monitoring the thoughts of 7 billion people that he created is so infantile it’s pathetic.

What does it mean to be a "good person" to you?

richiegtt comments on Dec 9, 2017:

To have good morals and set a good example for your children . Being kind to animals.Helping people in need ,empathy for others. Answering a friends request ,Being good to your parents and taking care of them if necessary.If you have children you should be responsible for their college tuition. If not DONT have any. I follow ALL of the above

Is there intelligent life on other planets?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

If there is,it’s probably a life form that does not fit the description of what we would recognize as life as we know it . And hopefully it is not to intelligent for its own good ,because if it possess to much intelligence it may eventually destroy itself and the planet it inhabits. LIKE US.

Does anyone name their cars or have an emotional attachment to their devices?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

I don’t name them but I have a 2001Dodge Viper that I bought new that I waste to much time polishing ,cleaning etc.Is that an emotional attachment ,I hope not .I do have a personalized license plate that says 01 VIPER so that could be considered a name .The only possession I have with a name that I definitely have a very strong emotional attachment to is my dog

Are there any words that disgust you?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

Bills

What's the best/worst present you've ever received?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

The best present I ever received was when my wife had a garage built for me . I have lived in this house since I as born and always wanted a full size garage. I never wanted to spend the money and just had a shed .(To build a garage in New York City is very expensive )My wife inherited a good amount of money and surprised me .One day a contractor came by for the estimate and this is when I found out .I continue to enjoy it 16 years later

Do you alway's follow the speed limit when driving?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

On highways always., on side streets and in town most of the time

Do you ever feel that God has a plan, and you're the only one who can stop it?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

No

Is an 'open' marriage a marriage?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

Yes ,it is because marriage is a type of contract and until that contract is legally dissolved, the marriage exists in the name of the law, no matter what the two individuals indulge in.

What is the main reason why you are not religious?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

I do not like the audacity of religion in the way that they actually think their religion is correct and the others wrong . This is the main reason religion is detrimental to society in that It segregates people in to diverse groups that do not respect each other which leads to wars .It also dumbs down the civilization due to their being satisfied with their moronic fairytales to explain unexplainable scientific mysteries.

Why are atheists always met with so much hostility?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

For some reason believers are brainwashed to believe atheists are evil,and a bad influence .They also may think they will be looked upon favorably by their god by hating non believers

Where does relationships with family stand when it comes to religion

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

Very few possess my lack of belief ,so if I let this become a conflict I wouldn’t have any relationships .

What does your significant other while your doing this?

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

She complains that I am on this site

I'm getting more and more irritated at the "us & them" mentality of believers who hold themselves in...

richiegtt comments on Dec 8, 2017:

I stoped visiting most of those websites because of those annoying religious fanatics getting under my skin .At least here we do not have visiting trolls

What's your favorite thing about the winter season?

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

I enjoy taking my dog for walks in the snow covered fields near my house .Being a landlord in New York ,my favorite thing is not having to worry about the landscaping and lawn maintenance on the properties. What I really like is I do not have my wife keeping the air conditioning so darn high at night and me freezing my ass off. I am actually warmer in rhe winter

Does your significant other share your belief?

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

She was once a practicing catholic but not anymore.She believes in a god and an afterlife ,but I have succeeded In convincing her religions are nonsense . We both do not believe in celebrating religious holidays but do it for other family members

Should public nudity be legal?

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

Only in designated area.I think anyone that would walk around nude in a public area with clothed people would be an exhibitionist.What I really dont approve of are family nudists ,where the mother,father and young children walk around in a nudist colony. It’s not right to expose children to this lifestyle when they have no say in the matter .Personally I do not even like the feeling of being nude even in the privacy of my own home .

Do you put lime in your coconut...lol

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

Actually I do . I like fresh squeezed lime juice in coconut water .I also put lime juice in seltzer water .This gives me the satisfaction of soda with outthe sugar .I guess I am a lime juice junkie . I just made lime chili a few days ago .My wife has to buy bags of limes .My favoiite alcoholic drink is a Mojoto which you guessed it has lime juice as an ingredient.

If nice guys/gals finish last then what's the point in being nice?

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

Only a sociopath would ask this question .If you are a sociopath then there is no point in being nice ,If you are not a sociopath or a psychopath your conscience would bother you if you were not nice ,so in this case it would be beneficial to be nice .Simple answer to a lame question

In Life I have learned more from Women than from Men, is that the case for other men?

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

It depends on what you want to learn about ,and the situation .I find Certain subjects are better discussed with woman . In my case I would say I have learned more from men .Such as mechanical ,technical ,electrical ,etc.

Nothing from nothing

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

Well then that means god came from nothing which is even more hard to believe .I hate it when so called intelligent people always say there is a god because there is an unknown answer to a scientific question ! .This goes back to the god of the gaps theory or what ever it’s called .

Are the religious willfully ignorant?

richiegtt comments on Dec 7, 2017:

No ,because willfully means that they chose to be in this state of ignorance ,when it is a fact that most people were indoctrinated into a religion from birth there for this is not willfull.To overcome this brainwashing you must possess a certain trait or characteristic . If this was not true common sense would make every one a nobeliever.Brain washing can prevent smart people from thinking logically .If these same individuals were born atheist they would most probably still be atheist.Also a religious individual can have a higher I Q ( relative intelligence)than a non religious individual

What are your thoughts on “foul” language?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

We all curse when things go wrong including my self , nothing wrong with it ,but it’s the over use of foul language amongst people that you are not familiar with .This I never do

brush with death

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

I mentioned some on another post . But I can think of many more . I was riding on the bow of the family boat when the steering cable broke and I was thrown off the boat and under water and as I surfaced my head hit the bottom of the boat .Thankfully my father shut off the engine just in time or I would have been killed from the propeller. Another time I was swimming under water in a pool and swam full force into the concrete side of the pool .I prefer not to go into the details . I was almost thrown off a bridge over a railroad by an escaped prisoner I was escorting back to jail in the Bronx NY. Another time I was responding to a call about a domestic dispute and the drunken guy attempted to stab me in the stomach but the knife was deflected by my large belt buckle There are more but that’s enough for now

What makes you leery about someone?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

I get a bad vibes from people who do not like animals .Excessive use of profanity . People with hypocritical tendencies,People exhibiting Paranoid behavior

What is the most astounding fact?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

I can’t top Tyson’s answer

If you had to believe in a god,which one would you choose?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

The God of the gaps . For a few of you that don’t know, it’s the term used to describe observations of theological perspectives in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence of proof of Gods existence .

How superstitious is it that office buildings and cruise ships don't have a 13th floor?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

I am not at all superstitious I could not care less about this nonsense.I would gladly stay on the 13th floor and in room 13 on the 13th of the month

Are you an optimist, pessimist or other? Please comment below regardless of your answer.

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

I am pessimistic. This has always been detrimental for me .In a few instances when I was younger this prevented me from accepting jobs ,persuing certain relationships etc

Do you ever feel lucky or unlucky?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

Definitely, many times I have had near death situations

Scientology

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

Any religion such as this,that can turn parents against children and or children against parents ( as depicted in the tv show) is proof of the destructive brainwashing that occurs with being associated with diabolical cults such as this

Who is your favorite intellectual?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

Neil DeGrasse ,Richard Dawkins,George Carlin

How do you handle the Holiday issues?

richiegtt comments on Dec 6, 2017:

Me and my wife would not celebrate if we were alone but we do because of our daughter and my 101year old father who places more of an importantace on this type of thing

What's most important to you?

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

Being in the position to help the people I care about if needed.The well being of my family and pets ,Financial security , Being able to travel to places I have always wanted to visit

If you could go back in time before adulthood, what one thing would you do differently, and why?

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

I would have more confidence in my self

Do you believe in love.

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

Romantic love I experienced three times and two ended badly. Then there is the love of your children ,the love of your pets ,the love of friends and relatives.If you have not experienced at least one of these you are very unfortunate . But if you don’t love your self (Not in a narcissistic way) I mean in a self respect way this can lead to negative consequences . I always think if you never loved a person and you were never able to love a dog ,cat or other creature then there is definitely something wrong psychologically .

George Carlin: Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, ...

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

This is definitely one of my favorite Carlin bits

Does anyone here hate noise pollution?

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

To me noise pollution is when you are next to an obnoxious person talking loudly on a cell phone and you must endure hearing a personal conversation . Another problem is living about 8 miles from LaGuardia airport .In the summer the jets are intolerable at night one right after another .The worst was many years ago when I worked in that airport on the ramp and had to wear earplugs most of the time .

Does prayer work?

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

First off the concept of prayer is so ridiculously shallow minded and infantile . To pray for your self is also selfish when you know there are millions of people less fortunate than you in the world . To think that you are actually important enough that a God that supposedly created the known universe cares about youis the height of audacity .Also religious people do not realize they are contradicting their own beliefs when they pray because they all say god has a plan when something happens ,so what are they attempting to do actually change his plan .The whole thing is so stupid it’s pitiful.

Do you get angry, annoyed or just plain amused when people think you are the devil for your lack of ...

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

If I don’t admire a persons intellect then I do not care what they think about mine

Your Last Memorable Concert....

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

Marvin Gaye .This shows you what I think of today’s music

What would you say is your best quality?

richiegtt comments on Dec 5, 2017:

I would say being able to get along with and relate to all types of individuals on all levels regardless of their social status,religion,sexual orientation etc.

Do you think monogamy is real in people?

richiegtt comments on Dec 4, 2017:

Most people are monogamous not because they do not desire another person ,but it may be due to guilt,fear,cultural pressure,religion or the unavailability of a sexual partner .

What’s your view on free will?

richiegtt comments on Dec 4, 2017:

We do not have free will ,our tendencies, and what ever makes us what we are ,can be attributed to genetic predisposition, and invironmental exposure ,neither of our choosing .

Just think how peaceful the world would be without religions.

richiegtt comments on Dec 4, 2017:

Especially when you look back in history ,all the violence ,torture ,discrimination etc.

The small orchestra that I play in has just begun a series of Xmas concerts for the local community.

richiegtt comments on Dec 4, 2017:

The main thing is you get fulfilled and are happy in participating,that’s all that really counts.

Does it offend you when others talk about cooking meat?

richiegtt comments on Dec 4, 2017:

No it does not bother me

Hair spray?

richiegtt comments on Dec 4, 2017:

I once used it when I had long hair .Now I keep my hair very short and do not need it any more . A small amount of jell sometimes

Who do you think are the most despicable people .

richiegtt comments on Dec 4, 2017:

The evil moron -Kim Jong-Un, The Racist fake phony fraud -Al Sharpton ,Bible quoting Asshole Scott Pruit , Hypocrite and sexual predator -Bill O’Riley, All the violent scum in the Mafia, Sociopath Ted Nugent and ALL Trophy hunters, Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein for obvious reasons , and because you said for any reason, all the useless over compensated and over rated Kardashians .

What is your favorite color and why?

richiegtt comments on Dec 3, 2017:

Blue . I just get a good feeling about blue

How long do you keep your cars/vehicles?

richiegtt comments on Dec 3, 2017:

I keep them until they are beyond repair One of my cars i have 17 years and the other 14 years . I always believe in preventive maintenance .Both cars are in excellent condition

What do you embrace most about being an Atheist?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

The self satisfaction that I overcame the brainwashing that was thrust upon me from birth

After 10 min. you can't stand the person! What do you do?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

Bad listeners are my pet peeve . I can’t stand these blowhards,They are the most annoying people ,never inquisitive and extremely boring .I make my exit as soon as possible

What is the education system structure in your country?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

It must be pitiful because numerous surveys have proven that 1 in 4 Americans think the Sun revolves around the earth

What do you get when you cross a human with an octopus?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

Some one who wants to get their hands into everything

I like DOGS better than people.

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

Dogs are mans and woman’s best companions ,I have had dogs all my life and loved every one of them like a child

Anyone here ever got into the literature of the American philospher Alan Watts.

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

A great mind .One of my favorite quotes of his “ You don’t look out there for God,something in the sky,You look in you”

Have you ever visited the people in prisons or correctional institutions?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

I actually worked ( for 28 years )in a dentetion center for the criminally insane for the State of New York Office Of Mental Health as a Sergeant in the Safety and security Department. Before that I worked for The NYS State ,Drug Addiction Control Commission in a prison that housed individuals convicted of drug related crimes .I have witnessed Unbelievable cruel treatment and abuse mostly in the early years of my employment involving beatings ,straitjackets ,punishment ,mental cruelty and things I do not care to mention .If you complained you would be set up by other employees that would possibly lead to loosing your job and pension . I once wrote a detailed letter about some of the atrocities and anonymously sent it to the Director and nothing was done . I did my best over the years to treat these individuals with dignity but was often looked at negatively by other officers

The ultimate question; is anyone else here a gamer?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

Never got past Atari.

What religion were you originally steeped in? I was raised Mormon.

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

Catlolic . One of the most archaic religious cults

Why do I find people who believe in the bible so unattractive?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

Because they do not think for themselves and believe nonsense that was fed to them with out questioning it and are obviously not open to new ideas or logical reasoning. As for my self i will not use the word unattractive but my respect for their intelligents goes down a notch.

Every morning, what do you do?

richiegtt comments on Dec 2, 2017:

Make the bed ,walk my dog ,read the newspaper while I have coffee .In this order

I'm going to stop procrastinating and go do some Art History homework.

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

Science ,biology,Chemistry

What is your favorite show?

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

As new shows go I would say 60 minuets,Nova, Curb your enthusiasm, any show where they build cars, Alaska The Last Frontier,Thru the wormhole,For old shows ,Ed Sullivan , the twilight zone ,Alfred Hitchcock,The Honymooners,

Face It: Some people like makeup. Others don't. You?

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

As a man I think a beautiful woman always looks better without makeup

Should law enforcement be allowed to access cell phone records?

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

Every second counts in an emergency .This can be a life and death situation .If someone kidnaped your daughter would you want them to wait and delay their investigation to get a warrant to check the suspects cell phone records .

Are you Left handed, Right handed or Ambidextrous?

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

Write lefty ,Throw a ball righty

What are your quirks?

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

1. I do not like people with bad manners that never say thank you ,please ,or excuse me 2. My bed has to be perfectly made up as soon as I get up with absolutely no wrinkles in the bedspread 3. I have about 27 pairs of perscription sunglasses in every type of lens and frame style and colors 4. I must read the news paper every morning 5 People That talk and never listen 6 Hate Late night talk shows and almost all new sitcoms ,

New to this site.Took me a week to get the courage to post.

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

I am sure you will look forward to these interesting discussions

Whoa! Whats the price of your technology use?

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

I do not pay for internet access on my tracfone.I also do not have a cellular tablet .I think going on the internet in my house is bad enough .My wife and I have cheap 70 dollar tracfones, and I get minutes for presents so it costs me nothing to operate (no monthly fee) Three family members share a landline .I ditched Netflix and get Amazon movies free with Amazon prime membership.I purchassed an authentic ADT out door security sign fo 20 bucks on eBay so I get free adt security .the burglars don’t know the difference.I do not have Virus protection because I use iPad tablets that are not susceptible to viruses

Animals

richiegtt comments on Dec 1, 2017:

I have one dog Pomeranian 5 rescued cats(neutered and spayed ) 4 rescued pidgins

Foliage changing colors?

richiegtt comments on Nov 30, 2017:

The leaves are changing and falling , I have an unbelievable job of racking leaves on my properties every year and dread it .It is about 50 degrees

Is the presdent Trump speaking for all America with his remarks on line ?

richiegtt comments on Nov 30, 2017:

Of course not ,but he is speaking for some of the Americans that voted for him ,who ever they may be ,and that’s not me.Remember a good portion of Trump people are in the closet out of fear of being ostracized . Gee that sound like being an Atheist

Coffee or tea?

richiegtt comments on Nov 30, 2017:

Coffee with my morning newspaper

What Aches and pains you?

richiegtt comments on Nov 30, 2017:

I had a a very bad painful left knee a few years ago . I cured it on my own with krill oil and a few other natural supplements .I refused to take pain killers unless the pain was unbearable at night

If thinking about the afterlife keeps you contemplating if it's real or not then watch this video.

richiegtt comments on Nov 30, 2017:

Very interesting video

Is it normal or healthy to prefer to spend the majority of my time alone?

richiegtt comments on Nov 30, 2017:

I think this is a positive attribute. A person should not have to rely on someone else to make them happy

There is a quote by Jim Rohn that says "You are the Average of the 5 People You Spend the Most Time ...

richiegtt comments on Nov 28, 2017:

I do not think that is necessarily true I lived 31 years with my father and we are almost complete opposites .Only a few things in common

What book have you read that was recommended to you in order to convince you of God?

richiegtt comments on Nov 28, 2017:

I am sorry ,I would never read a book that was recommended to me in order to convince me there was a god . I read enough of that crap in catholic school

Do atheists and liberals go hand-in-hand?

richiegtt comments on Nov 28, 2017:

I am an atheist and the farthest away from a liberal that you can get

What businesses should we not buy from?

richiegtt comments on Nov 28, 2017:

I despise Apple, They dole out their stupid little improvements on their products little by little to lure buyers to buy new products ( they probably had these improvements from the beginning )but take away other capabilities at the same time .For instance to get a thinner iPad you get a lower performance battery .They take away a headphone jack so you have to buy a blue tooth headphone jack .They lie about battery life of products .Their stated battery life is when it’s brand new .After a few months it’s CRAP. Their products are over priced and never discounted .They remove some apps ( like YouTube ) from products such as older Apple TVs so you have to get a new Apple TV to get the app back There is much more to bitch about but I am allready boring you

Is a certified marriage license required?

richiegtt comments on Nov 28, 2017:

I would like to know how many people would actually get married if one partner did not pressure the other one into the marriage .

What is one of your best childhood memories?

richiegtt comments on Nov 28, 2017:

Getting up real early on a Saturday morning and going fishing with my father and grandpa in beautiful Long Island Sound in a rented row boat and our 10 hp evinrude outboard motor.Diging for the bait the day before was also fun

Evolution

richiegtt comments on Nov 28, 2017:

Origin of life is the great mystery.Evolution explains everything after this