Do you find it offensive when theist think without a belief in god/gods, it’s impossible to have ...

wordywalt comments on May 30, 2018:

I don't care what they think. I know that I have a strong moral code -- and that is all that matters.

I'm old enough now that I'm starting to think a little bit about my legacy.

wordywalt comments on May 30, 2018:

Of course, people are your legacy -- in several senses. First, their is your progeny. Second, there are the people whom you have influenced directly during your lifetime. They, in turn will influence others withe some of the thoughts you have generated or passed on, and it never ends as long as the human species exists. Finally, if you have written a lot expressing your ideas and shared those writings widely, people will be influenced by what you have said in writing. As a person who has tried to live a good, helpful life, as a high school teacher, as a teacher educator, as an educational staff developer focusing on improving teaching, learning and school leadership, as an educational writer, and as a school administrator, I don't worry about my legacy. I do sometimes wonder how widely my influence has spread.

Morality is Very subjective, As an individual you decide what is Moral.

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

Some laws are not moral, but imperfect expressions of cultural biases. Some laws are to be resisted if we are moral people. Example: The Jim Crow of the American south prior to the late 1960s.

I have always wondered why this happens.

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

I don't understand that response. I feel that I still have a lot to learn about human psychology and cognitive development and love to talk about the topics.

What's the one most negative/detrimental effect religious teachings had on your life?

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

The most negative thing, and the thing I fear most, is the aggressive and intrusive way that the evangelicals are moxing religion and politics and how it is trying to force its dogma onto us with the force of bad law.

Italy is in the midst of a constitutional crises.

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

The EU has always shown more intelligence, rationality, fiscal sanity, and moral authority than has Italian politics and political figures. .

I do like the idea of a site like this, and I hope it does well.

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

Don't expect this to be a uniform group. There are a number of people on this site whom I would consider friends and colleagues. There are others I find downright obnoxious or repulsive.in their beliefs and behavior.

Dishonesty In looking back over decades in American Baptist Fundamentalism I must say this one ...

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

There is no doubt that in the institutions of the Southern Baptist Convention, the tyranny of the group prevails. Fandamentalistic "true believers" dominate the culture of most Souther Baptist churches. Those true believers use all means at their disposal to force all others in the group to share the same unquestioning beliefs in the evangelical dogma. If anyone shows any deviance from of questioning of any segment of the dogma, they exert pressure on him or her. The pressure many take the form of sweetly being nice to the person to convince him to come back to the fold. It may also take the form of judging and shaming. If the person does not "shape up", they will either make him or her so uncomfortable that he or she will choose to leave the group, or they eject him from the group That is cognitive dissonance just as Leon Festinger defined it.

Study Finds Link Between Brain Damage and Religious Fundamentalism

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

There is no doubt that the behavior of all fundamentalistic religious "true believers" is different from the normal and that indicates that something is impeding rational judgment. It is definitely abnormal and irrational behavior.

‘It’s a toxic place.

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

In general, white nationalists live in a world of hatred, fear, and irrationality. Facts, honesty, and truth are the least of their concerns.

Why do we pay twice for the same services, police and military with our tax money?

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

Your question does not make sense to me.

The hospice service for which I work is proud to "honor vets".

wordywalt comments on May 29, 2018:

I am an 81 year old vet, and it would bother me too.

When logic is used against you

wordywalt comments on May 28, 2018:

sheer hypocrisy in action. All too typical Republican behavior.

Fake news at their best :P

wordywalt comments on May 28, 2018:

What a despicable sociopath!

If you had to choose between keeping 30 grand or bailing a loved one out of prison with the money, ...

wordywalt comments on May 28, 2018:

The only conditions under which I would put down $39,000 for a person's bail would be (1) if I were convinced that the person was not guilty of the charges, and (2) I really cared about the person. Even if I really cared about the person, if I thought he or she was guilty, I would not put down the bail money. If uou did the crime, you need to accept all of the consequences.

If you had to choose between keeping 30 grand or bailing a loved one out of prison with the money, ...

wordywalt comments on May 28, 2018:

The only conditions under which I would put down $39,000 for a person's bail would be (1) if I were convinced that the person was not guilty of the charges, and (2) I really cared about the person. Even if I really cared about the person, if I thought he or she was guilty, I would not put down the bail money. If uou did the crime, you need to accept all of the consequences.

If you had to choose between keeping 30 grand or bailing a loved one out of prison with the money, ...

wordywalt comments on May 28, 2018:

The only conditions under which I would put down $39,000 for a person's bail would be (1) if I were onvinced that the person was not guilty of the charges, and (2) I really cared about the person. Even if I eally cared about the person, if I thought he or she was guilty, I would not put down the bail money. If uou did the crime, you need to accept all of the consequences.

If you had to choose between keeping 30 grand or bailing a loved one out of prison with the money, ...

wordywalt comments on May 28, 2018:

The only conditions under which I would put down $39,000 for a person's bail would be (1) if I were onvinced that the person was not guilty of the charges, and (2) I really cared about the person. Even if I eally cared about the person, if I thought he or she was guilty, I would not put down the bail money. If uou did the crime, you need to accept all of the consequences.

Xtian Nationalist Legislation

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

These damnable nuts are a serious threat to our democracy and civil rights. They should be condemned.

How do you feel when someone gives you sympathy?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

Depends on how I feel about the person expressing the sympathy

What do you usually listen to in the car?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

Classical music.

If you could take any trip anywhere where would you go ? Would you take someone along ?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

The Great Barrier Reef. My wife and grandson.

Hormel just announced they're recalling 20000 pounds of spam. Do you like spam?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

Yes, I like lite Spam. Have been eating it since World War II.

I like this!

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

Sounds DAMNED good to me!!

What Do You Do When You Are Sad?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

I listen to comforting or nostalgic music. I write pieces expressing my thoughts. I sit and think. I do not seek company. Like Mark Twain, i feel that "misery can take care of itself."

What do you think about the social determinants of health?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

The culture in which one is raised and the income level of the family are large determinants of behavior. Genes and behavior determine health. I was raised in the deep south with a lot of fried food and carb-laden food, and which smoking was widespread. Systematic exercise was not. I was overweight for much of my life until I became a diabetic at the age of 45.I was also a heavy smoker. I developed diabetes at the age of 45 and became more serious about weight control by diet and exercise. I developed high cholesterol and high blood pressure at the age of 65 I quit smoking at the age of 56. At the age of 69, I had a heart attack and had to have a pacemaker installed. The smoking has led to COPD. Today, I eat healthy food and healthy amounts of food. I have walked 3 - 5 miles a day for years, and now am on a very heavy weight-lifting regiment. With proper diet, heavy exercise, and the proper medication, the diabetes, blood pressure, and cholesterol and are under full control, as is my weight. My heart is stronger than it was over 20 years ago and my COPD is manageable. My point is this: One's health is largely controlled by one's personal cjoices and behaviors. Regardless of the culture, one can and should choose to live a healthy lifestyle. And, even in middle age, one can still increase quality of life and life-span by choosing to live a healthy lifestyle. If one does not, he or she will pay the piper. .

What type of tomatoes does everyone like to plant?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

Over the years, I have grown many varieties, including the Cherokee Purple.. After receiving a gift of black heirloom tomato seeds from my daughter, I was so impressed with the taste (sweet and tangy), texture and juiciness, That they are the only tomatoes I grow any more. They are head and shoulders above any other variety I have ever tried. I save seeds from each year's harvest and use them to grow my own plants. Incidentally, I have seeds to share if you would like some. Just send me your name and mailing address and I will send you a few seeds.

What has agnostic.com provided for you?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

Agnostic.com has provided what I wanted -- some good dialogue, some challenges to my thinking, comradeship with good, intelligent people, some sharing of the human condition. That is quite a lot.

A little deep and profound but something to think about because so many people do base their lives ...

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

The quote is asking for an impossibility.

Do you believe in life after death of any kind?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

No.

Does anybody else detest the way cell phones have taken over our youngsters lives ?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

Yes. Those young people have retreated from the world of real human contact. Asa consequence, they are impeded in their social development and overall personality development.

Boy I miss having a Garden so much.?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

I am not sure that I would go that far, but we could certainly reduce our food costs. I give a LOT of vegetables with neighbors, but have no one to trade with. I think that I am one of only two serious vegetable gardener in the entire neighborhood..

>How will you vote?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

I will vote for the candidates who are (1) most likely to act responsibly to make our governments serve us well, (2) most likely to act on behalf of ALL of our people, (3) most likely to act with honor, integrity, honesty, and morality, (4) most likely to act to preserve and strengthen the integrity of our democracy. At this point, I see very few, if any Republicans who deserve my vote.

At what age did you move out?

wordywalt comments on May 27, 2018:

At age 18 I went off to college, returning only for summermonthgs. At age 22, I left permanently.

Waldmeister - for all my German friends here.

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

Sehr schoen.

I have a theory.

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

Injustice is a motivating force IF (1) person is NOT a sociopath, (2) racism or ethnocentrism is NOT a basic part of the person's personality and surrounding culture.

Meet The Fuckups

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

You make them look omical. They are not comical! They are knowing moral idiots.

Ok Donto I have a pineapple top. What do I have to do to get this thing to grow?

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

Just plant it and keep it watered. But, do not expect quick results. It will take 4 to 5 years before it will prouce a pineapple. Also, the plant is vulnerable to freezing weather.

I have a question for the guys and gals opinions welcome as well.

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

Good question. If I were on the dating scene, I would be looking much more for communications that show intelligence, warmth, humor, and common values.

History does not always repeat but echoes. [patheos.com]

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

An apt analogy!

Any Survivalists/ Preppers on here? There doesn't seem to be a group for it...

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

I would hope that we are more intelligent than that.

Just seen a interesting question on another site and thought I would ask the same question here.

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

The human species is in trouble if the family is not relevant.

How long have you been/were you agnostic?

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

I have been an agnostic/atheist for over 60 years,

Is it really possible to live your life and not have any regrets.

wordywalt comments on May 26, 2018:

No, it is not possible.

It's interesting when I bring up Ayn Rand people write the opposite of what she is saying.

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

Let me add that Rand was saying the the individual is all that is important, that we -- alone -- are responsible for our creations and that we, alone deserve the entire fruits of our efforts. That is nothing but an egocentric pile of crap manufactured by a self-absorbed moral idiot. When we create an idea,an invention, a piece of writing, we stand on the shoulders of those who came before and laid the intellectual scaffolding on which we built. Without them, we would be nothing. Similarly, there are always people and agencies -- including governments --- who have helped us to become who and what we are. To ever say that we did it all by ourselves is pure self-absorbed bullshit!

Something Beautiful - YouTube

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

An astonishing well phrased and beautiful piece. It is the best short condemnation of ethnocentrism I have ever heard. Bravo!

Do you chase after change, run away from it, or have found a healthy balance/happy medium?

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

I have sought change in much of my life and career, but I still like my islands of stability and security.

What's the difference between anecdotal evidence and scientific evidence?

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

Anecdotal evidence is simply an analysis of events that occur in a natural context or setting. Most scientific studies start with a null hypothesis to be disproved, and a design of study to test the validity or invalidity of the hypothesis. Both methods can yield valid results, and both (depending on the knowledge and skill of the observers and the design of the study)can fail to produce good data and conclusions..

It's interesting when I bring up Ayn Rand people write the opposite of what she is saying.

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

You are still wrong about what Rand was trying to say. If you want to be objective, look into what the ritics are really aying and the grounds for their remarks, instead of ignoring them and simply trying to object to the remarks. Grow up intellectually and morally, young man.

As a non-believer, what is your moral foundation?

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

read the many posts on this topic already posted on this site.

The majority of Christians go to church because they are looking for friendship.

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

I think you are wrong. Most people go th church because they believe in the religion and because they are concerned about their "salvation." As a child and teenager with religious parents, that is what I observed.

The Baptist church I drive past often has one of those signs where churches put their pithy sayings.

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

The sign is absolute jubberish. It took a lot of stupidity to come up with that one.

Are you a fan of the theory of negative clothing?

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

Nonsense.

What do you think about the politically correct situation?

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

It is not a question of political correctness. It is a question of what expresses disregard for the human dignity of persons or groups. If you can't see that, you have a problem and may be part of the problem.

It was suggested to me by someone on this site to read Nietzsche.

wordywalt comments on May 25, 2018:

There no intelligent and moral Ayn Rand fans I have read all of her major works. Her twisted ideology is laid bare in her books: (1)greed is good, (2) all governments are evil, (3) I should have the freedom to what I want, regardless of the consequences.

Why do some humans have the desire to feel superior to other humans?

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

Some are sociopaths. Some are simply egocentric and narcissistic. Some try to hide an inferiority complex by trying to demean and control others.

Received a call from a guy that I've not seen in over 10 years.

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

Do NOT get involved! Tell the guy that you feel for him an hope that he recovers, but that you are now too far apart in beliefs to resume the contact. If you resume the relationship, you will regret it.

Aside from your beliefs, what other areas of your life do you feel you have to hide to avoid ...

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

I have never felt that I have to hide anything about myself. I simply do not wear my beliefs on my sleeve. When I feel the need to express myself on an issue, I do so -- in a civil and non-aggressive manner. However, when someone has done or said something which expresses bigotry, falsehood, or which is disrespectful and/or hurtful, I do respond with passion.

Reality..

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

I never felt that way. I simply felt free to define myself.

Need to Impeach: To whom it may concern: No one is above the law.

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

Hear! Hear!

Draft of Arizona school science standards removes evolution wording

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

Because evangelical "true believers" are so blindly and deeply wedded to the biblical creation myth that they feel that evolution undermines the "truth" of the Bible, ergo of their religion. We must fight against these efforts without fail. When I was a high school teacher in central Florida in 1966, I put my job and career on the line to resist such efforts against evolution. I was teaching biology, and my principal came to me and directed me to NOT teach about evolution. I responded that as a science teacher, I had the obligation to deal with all of the principles and facts of science, and did not have the right to withhold any. My principle responded, "It's your ass." I did teach a full unit on evolution and had no complaints from the community. Stand up to ignorance, superstition and mindless "true belief."

A new friend of mine who is wanting to start up a business in past life regression therapy wants me ...

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

Regression therapy is pure, unadulterated horse manure. Anyone who risks it is simply being stupid.

If Burma became free of all threats of Islamic terrorism.

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

Hell, no, I would not move there. There are no pros.

We can't be having that.

wordywalt comments on May 24, 2018:

An expression of truly evil praise of ignorance.

Why do we hate?

wordywalt comments on May 23, 2018:

There is no one answer. Sometimes, it is ecause the persons DNA hard-wired the person to be a vicious sociopath. In other caswes it is due to a twisted personality development. Some cultures harbor much hatred. Sometimes is is a mixture.

I'm a rock star!

wordywalt comments on May 23, 2018:

Congratulations! Any time you enable another person to accomplish something, you have done something of great value!

Is Reality Just a Figment of Our Imagination?

wordywalt comments on May 23, 2018:

No, our reality is not a figment of our imagination in the way you insinuate. Our reality is constructed through our interactions with our environment. We develop cognitive schema which we used to interpret and analyze data from our interactions. We then build cognitive structures or patterns of meaning which inform and guide us.

Republicans Call For Christianity As ‘Official Religion’ of US

wordywalt comments on May 23, 2018:

Any such action is clearly and unequivocally unconstitutional. Shows what hypocrites Republicans are: They pronounce veneration for our constitution, then proceed to violate it.

NFL Bans Kneeling During The National Anthem | HuffPost

wordywalt comments on May 23, 2018:

This is a phony issue, created by Trump. Kneeling is a sign of deference and respect. As a veteran and native southerner, I say that those who want to make an issue of this are bigots andirrational right wing reactionaries.

A Federal Court Just Ruled Trump Can't Block People On Twitter

wordywalt comments on May 23, 2018:

Trump is going to hate this ruling. Good!!

Can you "green-thumbers" tell me my tomatoes won't fruit? In N. Florida

wordywalt comments on May 23, 2018:

You a.lso may need more phosphate. You might want to try Miracle-Gro.

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wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

Trump and his entire cabal constitute the locus of evil and the seeds of dictatorship. These are men to be hated and fought against at every turn.

A Pastor and his 2 wives believe the Bible supports their relationship With 19 and 60 Year Old.

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

All that proves is what a moral degenerate and charlatan that so-called pastor is.

Hello.

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

You are right.

Republican Who Claims Holocaust Was Orchestrated by Gay Nazis Wins Enough Support for Massachusetts ...

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

shows what moral lunacy too damned many Republicans have stooped to!

Is the self an illusion?

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

All of our cognitive structures, including our definition of self, are constructed in our own minds from our interactions with our environment. . We define who we are, what we believe in, what we value, what our standards are, and much more. This mental construct is our sense of self.We could not function as a human organism without such structures.

In America, will justice ever be blind?

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

Justice has rarely been blind in any culture. Nevertheless, it is goal worth aspiring toward.

Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises I think I'm getting the hang of Hemingway with this 3rd book of his ...

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

The more you read of Hemingway's works, the more you will see that all of his works follow the same model. He takes his protagonists though difficult times, takes them to prosperity and happiness, then virtually destroys them. The settings and characters change, but the plot never does.

Why is there so much anger here?

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

There are 2 main sources of anger: (1) outrage at the incivility and lack of morality in the behavior of irrational haters and fear-mongers, and (2) dissatisfaction with oneself which the person has difficulty dealing with. I often feel anger toward those in the first case, but I am not angry about who I am and/or my circumstance.

Why is it so difficult for the public to take good care of public spaces?

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

Yes, we do. But, too damned many people are thoughtless boors.

Do you want to "evangelize" chistian family and friends?

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

They have to find their own way to truth. Many of them never will. The best way to promote change is to immerse a person in a different culture which gets them to challenge their beliefs, but treats them with dignity.

Do people become more bigoted as they age?

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

Most people do NOT become more bigoted with age. Usually, the bigoted person has become so by late teens to early adulthood. They then tend to identify with and associate with others of the same angry, irrational, hate-filled, and fear-filled ilk -- forming a self-reinforcing culture. In effect they give over theair thought processes to the irrationality of the bigotry of the group. For some reason, he same thing is now happening to your mother. She has given control over who she is and what she thinks to the culture of bigotry.

Argh.

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

I'll bet you are crowing after that one.

What happens when we die?

wordywalt comments on May 22, 2018:

There is absolutely no reason to believe that when we die our consciousness continues to exist. You are falling into the same trap that religious people do when they believe that we have a soul and that soul continues to live after our bodies die. It is simply a selfish expression of a desire to live forever, to believe that we are something more than we are. Our consciousness is nothing more than the cognitive structures and schema which our brains construct to make sense of our environment. That cognitive structures and those schema do not exist outside of a living, functioning brain -- period! Face reality -- with dignity!

OK babyboomers, how many of you are like me and thinks todays chart topping music really sucks ...

wordywalt comments on May 21, 2018:

I g=have not heard any contemporary music worth listening to. The greatest jazz was that of the 1950s and 1960s. The greatest pop music was that of the late 1960s through the early 1980s.

Will Democracy correct itself in the United States?

wordywalt comments on May 21, 2018:

I have to believe that it can be fixed. If not, this would not be a place I would want to call home.

What's the last thing you said to the person you were leaving on the way out of your last ...

wordywalt comments on May 21, 2018:

The last thing I wrote to my first wife was "Free, at last!! Free, at last!!

Choose the Right Words in an Argument

wordywalt comments on May 21, 2018:

Concern for the iumpact of our words is always appropriate. We always need to pick the right words which express as prcisely what we intend as possible, and to make sure they convey and create the right emotional tone.

What is your opinion on boycotts?

wordywalt comments on May 21, 2018:

Publix and Putnam have common roots. It is as simple as that. I don't agree with hum, but Putnam is neither the rapid reactionary nor the corrupt moral idiot that many Republicans are. As Republicans go, he is not the worst of the lot and a much more honest man than Rick Scott.

Spouse and religion

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

Tell her that she has a full right to her own beliefs, but that you want no part of religion, including discussion of religious beliefs and issues. Ask her to extend equal respect of your right to believe as yiu do to you.

If a woman wants an abortion should the father have a right to keep the child?

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

Only if (1) the child was conceived in consensual sex, (2) the father has the means to support the child well, (3) the father is mentally healthy and not a true believer in any political or religious ideological dogma.

How many of you atheist are pro-life? Just curious

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

Pro-life is a deliberately deceptive term, using to mask the fact that the user of term is simply anti-termination of a pregnancy for ANY reason. You will find that most of the members of this site are not "true belieers" in ANY ideological dogma..

Would you kiss again the last person you kissed?

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

Oh, yes!

The religious need some serious education! So deluded and self imposed ignorance!

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

Damned well stated!!

Westboro Baptist Church Visit

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

These are truly vicious demagogues who only know how to hate, distort, and instigate. Their church was formed by Phelps and his family still forms the core of the group. The fact is that Fred, his son and daughter were lawyers who were disbarred in Kansas for unethical conduct. Yet, they former this perverted church of sheer haters. Wherever they go, they should be met with a counter-demonstration which depicts them as the moral perverts they really are.

Im 26 and I actively participate in discussions with people who are most of the times 30 years elder...

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

I am glad. Us old farts do have a few pearls of wisdom we have gleaned from our experiences and are glad to be able to help any time we can.

As a former exchange student I'm saddened to hear that an exchange student from my organization was ...

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

I am sorry that your fellow exchange student and her family had to find out that the American political culture lacks the courage and morality to control gun violence by limiting access to guns.

I am not a perfectly giving person, but why has this Country chosen to withdraw aid to Northwest ...

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

The answer is simple. Trump and his supporters are total bigots. In addition, Trump is in cahoots with both Netenyahu and Putin. His actions contribute toward the goals of both.

It says on the internet that 2/3rds of us (brits- I suppose) were not interested in the royal ...

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

I have never watched a royal wedding. In fact, I have attended only 5 weddings in the past 60 years, including two of my own and my 2 daughters'. I even told my oldest daughter that I would pay her to elope to avoid all of the expense and rigamarole.

Penguins mate once and stay together for life.

wordywalt comments on May 20, 2018:

Relationships for penguins are a much simpler and elemental matter -- propagation. Human relationships are much more complex and we often get into them for the wrong reasons. When we do that, those relationships are likely to fail. But, if we are smarter than penguins, we learn from our mistakes and do not repeat them.