@Matias
I appreciate your response. Yes, some "Medical" sciences are truly science. Thank goodness for them or I'd have been dead decades ago. The "ists" listed though, are considered by some of us as puesdo-science...... probably a bias based on my own education.

Madalyn Murray O'Hair's employee David Roland Waters, who had worked as a typesetter and later office manager for American Atheists, killed her and dismembered her for stolen goods and coins.

Religion had nothing to do with it, nor religious extremists.

@Davesnothere OK. The point is agnostics and atheists have good reason to be fearful.

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I wrote about this anger also. I think it's common for the newly agnostic/atheist to feel betrayal and extreme anger with religion. When you finally gain some objectivity and start seeing the religions for what they truly are ... it's often rather aggravating and, in fact, contemptuous. You even feel scorn for those still stuck in the mire of religion and not able to see what you finally do.

But that's just objectivity level 1. When you finally garner your new personal operating system you will also start to see religion as just one of many different tools to accomplish similar objectives. This is where the Dalai Lama says he acknowledges the usefulness and even a need for religion. I believe he means in the present more than the past - even though we do see current tragedies carried out in the name of modern religion.

This is where I see the vedic approach superior. It can swallow up the religious under the same umbrella that we all share. Their paths were merely different but led to the same destination. They chose ... poorly.

@Matias I didn't understand because you didn't tell us.

First, you cannot know if they do research or not. I think you mean they are not publishing papers on science and religion. I don't find that unusual at all. The New Atheists are communicators about science and religion, not researchers in that field.

@Matias Frankly I see little difference between what people call New Atheists and old Atheists, what is different is the world climate they first spoke up in as a demographic and the existence of the internet and social media. That allowed what they said to be heard far beyond the literate world (those of us who still actually read books 76% read ONE last year, so form your own conclusions there), it reverberated through the net and hence the world.

Like many Atheists I evolved to this position over a period of years in my own youth (60's-70's) when I was raised as a Christian. I had issues with the religion, but was utterly surrounded by believers culturally, who might believe slightly differently, but nonetheless believed. As an adult I moved on from that locale, and on from religion as well, but belief clung on a while. Like my own life it expanded its horizons into other religions and ideas, philosophies and worldviews. I had no "AH HA" moment of realization, just a gradual realization the Emperor had no clothes, and I had no valid reason to believe.

For others the experience is MUCH different. They break free all at once, and to them it feels as if they broke out of a cell, which makes them feel like they were captured, held captive, and then there is an anger response. It is visceral and something they have to address as they see fit. Sometimes this is APT, as per their own personal experience.

For mew it felt more like the entire tribe (world) was lost in a swamp and I found my way out to greener pastures but few would listen. Plato's Cave comes to mind.